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Mid-Term Elections 2018
Friday, November 16, 2018 11:43 PM
BRENDA
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T
Quote:North Dakota joined the Union in November 1889 and has participated in all elections from 1892 onwards. Since 1900, North Dakota voted Democratic 17.24 percent of the time and Republican 82.76 percent of the time. Since 1968, the state has always voted Republican.
Quote:South Dakota is reliably Republican in presidential elections – only voting Democratic four times, most recently in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. South Dakota is one of seven states with the minimum three electoral votes.
Friday, November 16, 2018 11:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't.
Saturday, November 17, 2018 12:09 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't. Sorry Brenda. The Dakotas are always red. North Dakota: Quote:North Dakota joined the Union in November 1889 and has participated in all elections from 1892 onwards. Since 1900, North Dakota voted Democratic 17.24 percent of the time and Republican 82.76 percent of the time. Since 1968, the state has always voted Republican. South Dakota: Quote:South Dakota is reliably Republican in presidential elections – only voting Democratic four times, most recently in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. South Dakota is one of seven states with the minimum three electoral votes. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 17, 2018 1:09 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: I'm not just sad but I am angry.
Saturday, November 17, 2018 2:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by THG: Forget the Sweet Talk -- Both Parties Will Go to the Map https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/11/10/forget_the_sweet_talk_--_both_parties_will_go_to_the_mat_138614.html T The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't. Sorry Brenda. The Dakotas are always red. North Dakota: Quote:North Dakota joined the Union in November 1889 and has participated in all elections from 1892 onwards. Since 1900, North Dakota voted Democratic 17.24 percent of the time and Republican 82.76 percent of the time. Since 1968, the state has always voted Republican. South Dakota: Quote:South Dakota is reliably Republican in presidential elections – only voting Democratic four times, most recently in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. South Dakota is one of seven states with the minimum three electoral votes. Do Right, Be Right. :) Jack, I just went and looked up how many reserves there are in those two states. There are 9 reservations in South Dakota and 5 in North Dakota. The majority of Indians in North Dakota are Dakotah/Lakotah along with Wahpeton, Sisseton, Yanktonia, Arikara, Hidasta and Mandan. Also Chippewa, Cree and Metis. Should also mention that in South Dakota too would be majority Dakotah/Lakotah. Native Americans vote Democrat. Why in the hell do you think the Republicans were trying to get P.O. Boxes banned during the mid-terms? The majority of those are used by Indians on reservations. I would think that majority of those voter numbers you posted to me will and have been white.
Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: North Dakota's Native American population is 5.2% South Dakota's Native American population is 8.9% (This stat is mixed with "Alaskan Native" for some reason). Both house races ended up right around 60% Republican to 36% Democrat. There was no Senate race in South Dakota. North Dakota's Senate race was 55.4% Republican to 44.6% Democrat. In the house, neither race would have been close if every Native, including all children not even eligible voted. In the North Dakota Senate race it is extremely unlikely that it would have swayed the results by 11% when the demographic makeup of Natives is only 5.2%, which doesn't even take into account how many are even registered to vote. I was not able to find that information anywhere for either state. I think it's pretty bold to say that all Native Americans vote Democrat. If you didn't have the ancestry yourself, I'd say that's just as racist as saying all black people vote Democrat, which isn't true by a long shot. Do Right, Be Right. :) You are correct that I shouldn't have implied that all Native Americans vote Democrat, Jack. I get tired when I hear stories of Native Americans getting the short end of the stick. That's why I posted or tried to post the link to that NPR story about Native IDs not being accepted at polling places. So everyone could read what was being done. That story came out of South Dakota and I mentioned voting notices not going to PO boxes and that meant those notices wouldn't reach reservations because that is how the mail is delivered to reservations. There are no street addresses or little towns or whatever on reserves.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: North Dakota's Native American population is 5.2% South Dakota's Native American population is 8.9% (This stat is mixed with "Alaskan Native" for some reason). Both house races ended up right around 60% Republican to 36% Democrat. There was no Senate race in South Dakota. North Dakota's Senate race was 55.4% Republican to 44.6% Democrat. In the house, neither race would have been close if every Native, including all children not even eligible voted. In the North Dakota Senate race it is extremely unlikely that it would have swayed the results by 11% when the demographic makeup of Natives is only 5.2%, which doesn't even take into account how many are even registered to vote. I was not able to find that information anywhere for either state. I think it's pretty bold to say that all Native Americans vote Democrat. If you didn't have the ancestry yourself, I'd say that's just as racist as saying all black people vote Democrat, which isn't true by a long shot. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: North Dakota's Native American population is 5.2% South Dakota's Native American population is 8.9% (This stat is mixed with "Alaskan Native" for some reason). Both house races ended up right around 60% Republican to 36% Democrat. There was no Senate race in South Dakota. North Dakota's Senate race was 55.4% Republican to 44.6% Democrat. In the house, neither race would have been close if every Native, including all children not even eligible voted. In the North Dakota Senate race it is extremely unlikely that it would have swayed the results by 11% when the demographic makeup of Natives is only 5.2%, which doesn't even take into account how many are even registered to vote. I was not able to find that information anywhere for either state. I think it's pretty bold to say that all Native Americans vote Democrat. If you didn't have the ancestry yourself, I'd say that's just as racist as saying all black people vote Democrat, which isn't true by a long shot. Do Right, Be Right. :) You are correct that I shouldn't have implied that all Native Americans vote Democrat, Jack. I get tired when I hear stories of Native Americans getting the short end of the stick. That's why I posted or tried to post the link to that NPR story about Native IDs not being accepted at polling places. So everyone could read what was being done. That story came out of South Dakota and I mentioned voting notices not going to PO boxes and that meant those notices wouldn't reach reservations because that is how the mail is delivered to reservations. There are no street addresses or little towns or whatever on reserves. Thank you for taking what I said at face value and not reading things into it that weren't implied. This is what rational people like us do, but I must admit my hesitation when talking anything politics with you Brenda because I know that we probably don't see eye to eye on some things and I like you. :) Like Kiki, I think any effort that is actively or even passively has motives to disenfranchise voters is wrong, but I wasn't commenting on that specifically. I was just saying that if this really did happen I don't know why somebody would do it in the Dakotas because the impact either way was next to negligible. I don't see the ROI on it. If it were a swing state like Florida it would make a lot more sense to me. (Definitely not saying that it would be right, just that I could see why a person or a group would think it was worth the risk). Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 17, 2018 8:50 PM
Saturday, November 17, 2018 9:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: "I was just saying that if this really did happen I don't know why somebody would do it in the Dakotas because the impact either way was next to negligible. I don't see the ROI on it." For now I'm going to assume it's a fact, just because the fact should be easy enough to check with some investment of time. So, assuming it's a fact, that makes the 'why' very puzzling.
Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:29 AM
THG
Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:25 PM
Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:45 PM
JO753
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Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I may be way off base, but here's my guess... It had nothing to do with American Indians in the Dakotas at all...
Sunday, November 18, 2018 10:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JO753: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I may be way off base, but here's my guess... It had nothing to do with American Indians in the Dakotas at all... Incorrect. GoP voter suppression, same az alwayz. http://www.msnbc.com/velshi-ruhle/watch/voter-id-law-in-nd-targets-tens-of-thousands-of-native-americans-1345583171620?v=railb& DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early http://www.7532020.com
Monday, November 19, 2018 3:29 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two. - THUGR
Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews? Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump? kiki and sig to name two.
Monday, November 19, 2018 9:29 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: THUGR, I'm going to make the same point that SIX did: Your grammar is way off. What you SHOULD have posted is...
Monday, November 19, 2018 11:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: THUGR, I'm going to make the same point that SIX did: Your grammar is way off. What you SHOULD have posted is... BTW, SIGBRAIN, Who's "Neslon?" You must feel so embarrassed - you're in this thread smugly correcting someone's grammar when you can't even spell a simple name in your own thread title. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62803 Spelling/grammar nazis/hypocrites always get it back in the end - you'd think they'd learn.
Monday, November 19, 2018 6:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: THUGR, I'm going to make the same point that SIX did: Your grammar is way off. What you SHOULD have posted is... BTW, SIGBRAIN, Who's "Neslon?" You must feel so embarrassed - you're in this thread smugly correcting someone's grammar when you can't even spell a simple name in your own thread title. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62803 Spelling/grammar nazis/hypocrites always get it back in the end - you'd think they'd learn. Funny shit G. Whenever sig does this I usually show a dozen of her fuck ups one post after the other. Now I ignore those posts. By the way, the post she and the dummy are referring to is just fine. And that makes it even funnier. T Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two. Fucking dummies
Quote:Hey! Do you guys know what white supremacists hate more than Jews? Polaks. Who here fits that description? Kiki and Sig, to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump? Kiki and Sig, to name two.
Friday, November 23, 2018 4:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two. - THUGR THUGR, I'm going to make the same point that SIX did: Your grammar is way off. What you SHOULD have posted is Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews? Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump? kiki and sig to name two. You asked three questions in there, two of which deserve their own question marks. The funny thing is, you got it right once, so why not all three times? One of the funniest demonstrations of how punctuation makes a difference is this: Let's eat grandma! versus Let's eat, grandma!
Friday, November 23, 2018 8:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two. - THUGR THUGR, I'm going to make the same point that SIX did: Your grammar is way off. What you SHOULD have posted is Quote:Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews? Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump? kiki and sig to name two. You asked three questions in there, two of which deserve their own question marks. The funny thing is, you got it right once, so why not all three times? One of the funniest demonstrations of how punctuation makes a difference is this: Let's eat grandma! versus Let's eat, grandma! I let you guys continue on because I was getting a kick out of your stupidity. Three questions says SIG. You need question marks says Jack. I'm not asking but one question in my signature and there, there is a question mark. Even though I answer that question in the next sentence. Mostly I'm making statements. You guys are complete fucking morons and that Jack is why educating oneself is good. Or when speaking to you I guess I should say, education gooood. No education baaad. Dummy... T Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two. Fucking dummies
Saturday, November 24, 2018 5:58 PM
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Sunday, November 25, 2018 12:07 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 25, 2018 12:44 AM
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Sunday, November 25, 2018 6:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Hey Brenda, This should shed some light on the matter: All 3 videos have good information. SGG
Tuesday, December 4, 2018 8:31 AM
Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: Hey Brenda, This should shed some light on the matter: ...and this... ...and this... All 3 videos have good information. SGG
Tuesday, December 4, 2018 7:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Hi SGG I realize this was for Brenda, but I appreciate the information. I thought that maybe the voter ID law effect on Native Americans might be a 'kick-the-dog' side effect (and you get to kick the dog for free) but it looks far more intentional than that. My own information was looking at the Native Americans in Arizona and New Mexico, b/c I have just a smidge more information on them. How aware are the Anglos of the Native American populations in their states, how well do they understand the circumstances of Native Americans, etc. I didn't think the legislature could be so ignorant that they would have written something that hostile by accident. But I didn't figure out the motive. It looks like at least in N Dakota there is a big effort to get especially reservation residents the proper ID. I don't think it was quite ready for this election cycle, hopefully it'll all by in place by 2020.
Wednesday, December 5, 2018 12:31 PM
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Monday, December 10, 2018 7:20 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't. Sorry Brenda. The Dakotas are always red. North Dakota: Quote:North Dakota joined the Union in November 1889 and has participated in all elections from 1892 onwards. Since 1900, North Dakota voted Democratic 17.24 percent of the time and Republican 82.76 percent of the time. Since 1968, the state has always voted Republican. South Dakota: Quote:South Dakota is reliably Republican in presidential elections – only voting Democratic four times, most recently in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. South Dakota is one of seven states with the minimum three electoral votes. Do Right, Be Right. :) Jack, I just went and looked up how many reserves there are in those two states. There are 9 reservations in South Dakota and 5 in North Dakota. The majority of Indians in North Dakota are Dakotah/Lakotah along with Wahpeton, Sisseton, Yanktonia, Arikara, Hidasta and Mandan. Also Chippewa, Cree and Metis. Should also mention that in South Dakota too would be majority Dakotah/Lakotah. Native Americans vote Democrat. Why in the hell do you think the Republicans were trying to get P.O. Boxes banned during the mid-terms? The majority of those are used by Indians on reservations. I would think that majority of those voter numbers you posted to me will and have been white.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't. Sorry Brenda. The Dakotas are always red. North Dakota: Quote:North Dakota joined the Union in November 1889 and has participated in all elections from 1892 onwards. Since 1900, North Dakota voted Democratic 17.24 percent of the time and Republican 82.76 percent of the time. Since 1968, the state has always voted Republican. South Dakota: Quote:South Dakota is reliably Republican in presidential elections – only voting Democratic four times, most recently in 1964 when Lyndon Johnson won a landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. South Dakota is one of seven states with the minimum three electoral votes. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: The gerrymanding did hold as both the Dakotas went red. There should have been two big blue spots on South Dakota but because of the Republicans denying Native Americans their right to vote there isn't.
Tuesday, December 11, 2018 6:48 AM
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Tuesday, January 8, 2019 7:22 AM
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 10:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: 2020 elections. Any takers...
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by THG: 2020 elections. Any takers... Besides Jo? Sure - I don't know if he's running but I'd definitely vote for Mitch Landrieu. At least I think I would from what I know of him so far. https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/29/mitch-landrieu-democrats-govern-pragmatic-big-tent-sot-sotu-vpx.cnn Warren? No. She's an amazing, accomplished human being that has done a great deal for all Americans, but too polarizing. I am glad she has broken the seal so-to-speak and has started to campaign. Hopefully that gets the other Dems out there and they start taking over the msm attention from Dump. There are plenty of smarter, better choices in the Dems than Dump of course, just have to find the one that will click with the most voters, especially the undecideds. I think Landrieu could do that as a "radical centrist" (if you need a label).
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Don't know Mitch but a mayor from New Orleans may have a background in corruption that could raise it's ugly head. As for Warren. She never once showed foreign policy chops. Besides, I don't want to go to progressive. I'm a centrist.
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Virginia races will gauge Trump’s appeal in suburbs A year after President Trump won the White House, voters in Virginia delivered a startling rebuke to Republicans, choosing a new Democratic governor and pushing out more than a dozen GOP state legislators - foreshadowing the wave that handed Democrats control of the House in the 2018 midterm elections. Later this year, 12 months before Trump faces voters again, Democrats hope for a repeat of the suburban slaughter that caught the GOP so off guard. Strategists on both sides will watch Virginia's legislative elections closely for clues about voter energy ahead of the 2020 presidential contest. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/virginia-races-will-gauge-trump%E2%80%99s-appeal-in-suburbs/ar-BBRXJYL Many a government worker caught up in the shut down. Oh my... T
Tuesday, January 8, 2019 12:05 PM
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Wednesday, January 9, 2019 10:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It's Russians and Nazis when elections are meddled with from the right. Which fake bogey men do we blame when Democrats do the same thing?
Wednesday, January 9, 2019 12:27 PM
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Wednesday, January 9, 2019 4:10 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yup. Still don't buy the Russia thing. Not when we've had plenty of people on both sides willing to meddle with elections for at least as long as I've lived. Do Right, Be Right. :)
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