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Ocasio-Cortez, the Democratic Socialists, and end to Capitalism
Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:07 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, December 9, 2018 8:33 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:24 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by THG: New York's 14th congressional district U.S. Representative Joe Crowley (D–Queens) Population (2016 ACS est.) 691,715 Ethnicity 18.41% White 11.39% Black 16.24% Asian 49.80% Hispanic 0.45% Native American 3.71% other https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=SR4NXLjLCKy7ggfyrpXwBg&q=Racial+Make+Up+Of+New+Yorks+14th+District&btnK=Google+Search&oq=Racial+Make+Up+Of+New+Yorks+14th+District&gs_l=psy-ab.3..33i10i299l3.4013.4013..5616...0.0..0.233.233.2-1......0....1j2..gws-wiz.....0.hXWkQ4H4fJs Here you go comrade kiki. I ain't knocking it. It's just I try to deal in facts. Fact number one. All ethnicity's practice tribalism. Not just whites. As the ethnicity of the population changes so does the ethnicity of it's leaders. Again, I ain't knocking it, I just deal in facts. tick tac asshole
Sunday, December 9, 2018 9:51 PM
Quote:Ocasio-Cortez was the first person since 2004 to challenge the Democratic Caucus Chair, Joe Crowley, in the Democratic primary. She faced a significant financial disadvantage, but said, "You can't really beat big money with more money. You have to beat them with a totally different game." Nearly 75% of her donations were small individual contributions, while less than one percent of Crowley's contributions were.[31] The Ocasio-Cortez campaign spent $194,000 to the Crowley campaign's $3.4 million.[43] Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by progressive and civil rights organizations such as MoveOn,[49] Justice Democrats,[50] Brand New Congress,[51] Black Lives Matter,[52] and Democracy for America,[37] and by gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon, who, like Ocasio-Cortez, also challenged a longtime incumbent, Andrew Cuomo, in the 2018 New York gubernatorial election.[53] Governor Cuomo endorsed Crowley, as did both of New York's U.S. Senators, Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, as well as New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, 11 U.S. Representatives, 31 local elected officials, 31 trade unions, and progressive groups such as the Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, the Working Families Party, NARAL Pro-Choice America and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, among others. On June 26, 2018, Ocasio-Cortez received 57.13% of the vote (15,897) to Joe Crowley's 42.5% (11,761), defeating the 10-term incumbent by almost 15 percentage points.
Quote: http://www.gothamgazette.com/state/7774-a-closer-look-at-voter-turnout-in-2018-new-york-congressional-primaries Maps compiled by the CUNY Center for Urban Research show that support in the election that has the country buzzing did not break down neatly on racial lines; in fact, Ocasio-Cortez maintained strong support throughout the district, across areas of various demographic makeups. “This wasn’t a fluke,” said Steven Romalewski, of the Center for Urban Research. “She was able to get voters from almost every neighborhood to come out and support her.” Romalewski noted that, contrary to the conventional wisdom of voting on racial lines, the areas where Ocasio-Cortez’s showing was strongest were areas that weren’t predominantly Hispanic, signaling that her showing may not have been due to the district’s changing demographics (it has been steadily becoming less white for years), but due to desire for change from Crowley.
Quote: It Was Not the Hispanics Who Gave the Victory to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez https://www.gc.cuny.edu/News/All-News/Detail?id=45531 "The majority of her votes, her biggest support, came from areas that were not predominantly Hispanic ," Romalewski was quoted as saying to NY1 News. "You would have expected the opposite." (This paragraph retrieved from the original linked article printed in Spanish) A map shows the highest concentration of votes in places like Sunnyside and the far north of Astoria, where young newcomers to the District are grouped. "They seem to be people who have not been involved in the process before," Romalewski said
Monday, December 10, 2018 1:35 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted: Sorry comrade kiki but your post doesn't show what you say it does. My numbers back up my claim. You know, just because you can't understand maps doesn't mean other people can't. Just saying that doubling down on an idiocy that everyone else can see is an idiocy make you look like an idiot. BTW, you need a breath mint. tic tac I figured I didn't need to wait long before you schooled the Troll. Do you have a map to post of what is the racial makeup of that bottom and left area of Queens where she got all her votes, since it obviously is not Hispanic. Absent a map of total votes cast, it looks like Hispanics did not vote.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted: Sorry comrade kiki but your post doesn't show what you say it does. My numbers back up my claim. You know, just because you can't understand maps doesn't mean other people can't. Just saying that doubling down on an idiocy that everyone else can see is an idiocy make you look like an idiot. BTW, you need a breath mint. tic tac
Quote:Originally posted: Sorry comrade kiki but your post doesn't show what you say it does. My numbers back up my claim.
Monday, December 10, 2018 1:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: From wiki Quote:Ocasio-Cortez was the first person since 2004 to challenge the Democratic Caucus Chair, Joe Crowley, in the Democratic primary. She faced a significant financial disadvantage, but said, "You can't really beat big money with more money. You have to beat them with a totally different game." Nearly 75% of her donations were small individual contributions, while less than one percent of Crowley's contributions were.[31] The Ocasio-Cortez campaign spent $194,000 to the Crowley campaign's $3.4 million.[43] Ocasio-Cortez was endorsed by progressive and civil rights organizations such as MoveOn,[49] Justice Democrats,[50] Brand New Congress,[51] Black Lives Matter,[52] and Democracy for America,[37] and by gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon, who, like Ocasio-Cortez, also challenged a longtime incumbent, Andrew Cuomo, in the 2018 New York gubernatorial election.[53] Governor Cuomo endorsed Crowley, as did both of New York's U.S. Senators, Chuck Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand, as well as New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, 11 U.S. Representatives, 31 local elected officials, 31 trade unions, and progressive groups such as the Sierra Club, Planned Parenthood, the Working Families Party, NARAL Pro-Choice America and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, among others. On June 26, 2018, Ocasio-Cortez received 57.13% of the vote (15,897) to Joe Crowley's 42.5% (11,761), defeating the 10-term incumbent by almost 15 percentage points. As Gotham Gazette reported Quote: http://www.gothamgazette.com/state/7774-a-closer-look-at-voter-turnout-in-2018-new-york-congressional-primaries Maps compiled by the CUNY Center for Urban Research show that support in the election that has the country buzzing did not break down neatly on racial lines; in fact, Ocasio-Cortez maintained strong support throughout the district, across areas of various demographic makeups. “This wasn’t a fluke,” said Steven Romalewski, of the Center for Urban Research. “She was able to get voters from almost every neighborhood to come out and support her.” Romalewski noted that, contrary to the conventional wisdom of voting on racial lines, the areas where Ocasio-Cortez’s showing was strongest were areas that weren’t predominantly Hispanic, signaling that her showing may not have been due to the district’s changing demographics (it has been steadily becoming less white for years), but due to desire for change from Crowley.
Quote: But turnout was only about 13%. Digging back to the CUNY center that did the analysis: Quote: It Was Not the Hispanics Who Gave the Victory to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez https://www.gc.cuny.edu/News/All-News/Detail?id=45531 "The majority of her votes, her biggest support, came from areas that were not predominantly Hispanic ," Romalewski was quoted as saying to NY1 News. "You would have expected the opposite." (This paragraph retrieved from the original linked article printed in Spanish) A map shows the highest concentration of votes in places like Sunnyside and the far north of Astoria, where young newcomers to the District are grouped. "They seem to be people who have not been involved in the process before," Romalewski said And, it's funny watching THUGGER double, triple, and quadruple down on being wrong ... ... wrong, wrong, AND wrong. AND also, firmly setting himself up for a lawsuit. Because who doesn't like a good lawsuit?
Monday, December 10, 2018 7:44 AM
Monday, December 10, 2018 10:40 AM
Monday, December 10, 2018 10:47 AM
Monday, December 10, 2018 12:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted: You guys think you can post shit and say it means something it does not. If you superimpose those district maps showing the Hispanic population compared to votes won, you only prove me right. Even if you stupid's begin to realize that 49% of the voters in her district are Hispanic. That someone can only win by getting a majority of the Hispanic vote.
Monday, December 10, 2018 12:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted: You guys think you can post shit and say it means something it does not. If you superimpose those district maps showing the Hispanic population compared to votes won, you only prove me right. Even if you stupid's begin to realize that 49% of the voters in her district are Hispanic. That someone can only win by getting a majority of the Hispanic vote.
Monday, December 10, 2018 12:55 PM
Monday, December 10, 2018 12:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted: You guys think you can post shit and say it means something it does not. If you superimpose those district maps showing the Hispanic population compared to votes won, you only prove me right. Even if you stupid's begin to realize that 49% of the voters in her district are Hispanic. That someone can only win by getting a majority of the Hispanic vote. She won 13% of the vote. OBVIOUSLY not a single Hispanic voter needed to vote for her to achieve that. Sometimes Dummy Trolls need to look in the mirror.
Monday, December 10, 2018 1:02 PM
Monday, December 10, 2018 3:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Even if you stupid's
Monday, December 10, 2018 3:27 PM
Monday, December 10, 2018 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: I had to do a double take with this one.__ T You'll love the fist part comrade kiki.__ T URGENT! PRESIDENT TRUMP BREAKING NEWS TODAY With Katy DEC 10, 2018
Monday, December 10, 2018 8:41 PM
Monday, December 10, 2018 9:45 PM
Tuesday, December 11, 2018 7:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: http://w ww. youtube.com/watch ?v=VapBcctXQcU (edited to be readable but not load) 14:51 So Bill, is there a breaking point for some Republican lawmakers? 14:55 I talked to one Senator who said there would be IF MULLER WERE TO PRODUCE EVIDENCE OF AN ACTUAL CONSPIRACY BETWEEN TRUMP AND THE RUSSIANS, if they were to document collusion for example ... They wasted 48 minutes of my life fluffing and primping each other's .TRUMP.RUSSIA.COLLUSION. wet dream and pretending this one critical point didn't exist. tic tac
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 12:16 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Instead of looking at a dumb little wish list that Fox News puts out about her, I thought I'd do a little digging and see what this is all about.
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 4:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Sorry, no. I did look for a better breakdown, but couldn't find one. Whoever dug up the info posted in the local NYC publication - kudos to them! I suspect they had to go to their local hard-copy records to find it. Exactly, as I've said, as you just admitted to and as jsf eluded. You posted maps that don't tell the story. I suggest you look at what I've posted again. 49 percent Hispanic, 11 percent black and 18 percent white. The Hispanic won asshole. Simple... T
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Sorry, no. I did look for a better breakdown, but couldn't find one. Whoever dug up the info posted in the local NYC publication - kudos to them! I suspect they had to go to their local hard-copy records to find it.
Thursday, December 13, 2018 6:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted: I had to do a double take with this one.__ T You'll love the fist part comrade kiki.__ T URGENT! PRESIDENT TRUMP BREAKING NEWS TODAY With Katy DEC 10, 2018.
Quote:Originally posted: I had to do a double take with this one.__ T You'll love the fist part comrade kiki.__ T
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