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How liberals want to control your life

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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


In one of WISHY'S harebrained threads (which I can't find) she goes on her usual rant about the Nazis "controlling her life".

Well, there are a few thoughts about that.

1) I doubt there is a "Nazi" anywhere near her house, let alone one who is stalking her and peeking in her bedroom window, or determining what she buys for dinner.

2) Does she have the idea that her life isn't ALREADY controlled? Not by "Nazis" but by the elite, who determine where the jobs will be (if any) and what kind they will be (If any)? Hasn't she had that experience already with her husband having a hard time working in coal mines and having to change jobs a few times already? And just wait until the Fed decides to raise interest rates and torpedo the economy!

3) "Liberals" ... the kind that WISHY supports (the authoritarian kind) want to take EVEN MORE control of her life! They want her to eat tofu and open a bedroom up for the nearest illegal alien/ homeless person. If you look at AOC's proposals they're extremely controlling (just like WISHY). I don't think WISHY has any idea how all of those proposals would impact her family's life. In return for taking over peoples' essential control over their lives, they're given safe spaces and transgender bathrooms. Hmm... not such a Green New Deal and Just Society after all.

Centralized control is the problem, it doesn't matter if it's by the transnational elites or by the radical left via a national government (or a fascist national government).


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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 2:48 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In one of WISHY'S harebrained threads (which I can't find) she goes on her usual rant about the Nazis "controlling her life".

Well, there are a few thoughts about that.

1) I doubt there is a "Nazi" anywhere near her house, let alone one who is stalking her and peeking in her bedroom window, or determining what she buys for dinner.

2) Does she have the idea that her life isn't ALREADY controlled? Not by "Nazis" but by the elite, who determine where the jobs will be (if any) and what kind they will be (If any)? Hasn't she had that experience already with her husband having a hard time working in coal mines and having to change jobs a few times already? And just wait until the Fed decides to raise interest rates and torpedo the economy!

3) "Liberals" ... the kind that WISHY supports (the authoritarian kind) want to take EVEN MORE control of her life! They want her to eat tofu and open a bedroom up for the nearest illegal alien/ homeless person. If you look at AOC's proposals they're extremely controlling (just like WISHY). I don't think WISHY has any idea how all of those proposals would impact her family's life. In return for taking over peoples' essential control over their lives, they're given safe spaces and transgender bathrooms. Hmm... not such a Green New Deal and Just Society after all.

Centralized control is the problem, it doesn't matter if it's by the transnational elites or by the radical left via a national government (or a fascist national government).




I'm thinking that's a cut and paste job from one of your chaos/agitation/alt right newsletters you subscribe to. Am I right? It hits all the popular Fux News simpleton right leaning stuff that jack would love. Maybe that's the point - a winky love post for 6? "See how I'm giving Wish the business!"

Otherwise, it's so vacuous I don't see the point.


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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 3:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In one of WISHY'S harebrained threads (which I can't find) she goes on her usual rant about the Nazis "controlling her life".

Well, there are a few thoughts about that.

1) I doubt there is a "Nazi" anywhere near her house, let alone one who is stalking her and peeking in her bedroom window, or determining what she buys for dinner.

2) Does she have the idea that her life isn't ALREADY controlled? Not by "Nazis" but by the elite, who determine where the jobs will be (if any) and what kind they will be (If any)? Hasn't she had that experience already with her husband having a hard time working in coal mines and having to change jobs a few times already? And just wait until the Fed decides to raise interest rates and torpedo the economy!

3) "Liberals" ... the kind that WISHY supports (the authoritarian kind) want to take EVEN MORE control of her life! They want her to eat tofu and open a bedroom up for the nearest illegal alien/ homeless person. If you look at AOC's proposals they're extremely controlling (just like WISHY). I don't think WISHY has any idea how all of those proposals would impact her family's life. In return for taking over peoples' essential control over their lives, they're given safe spaces and transgender bathrooms. Hmm... not such a Green New Deal and Just Society after all.

Centralized control is the problem, it doesn't matter if it's by the transnational elites or by the radical left via a national government (or a fascist national government).


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I'm thinking that's a cut and paste job from one of your chaos/agitation/alt right newsletters you subscribe to. Am I right? It hits all the popular Fux News simpleton right leaning stuff that jack would love. Maybe that's the point - a winky love post for 6? "See how I'm giving Wish the business!"

Otherwise, it's so vacuous I don't see the point.


Signy's post MUST be a cut and paste job from a newsletter, because those newsletters are entirely focused on WISHY specifically, and all her delusions! (For example, that I'm a Fascist because I oppose killing "all but 100" in order to "save" them. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63312 ) YEAH! That MUST be it!

Sheesh. Do you ever use your brain? At all?

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 5:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


I'm thinking that's a cut and paste job from one of your chaos/agitation/alt right newsletters you subscribe to. Am I right? It hits all the popular Fux News simpleton right leaning stuff that jack would love. Maybe that's the point - a winky love post for 6? "See how I'm giving Wish the business!"

Otherwise, it's so vacuous I don't see the point.




I don't read, watch or post links to Fox here.

I do, however, post links to the FEC database and the RCP polling aggregate. I do my own research and fact checking.

Funny that you're suspiciously absent in those threads.

Too much truth for you, I suppose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:


I'm thinking that's a cut and paste job from one of your chaos/agitation/alt right newsletters you subscribe to. Am I right? It hits all the popular Fux News simpleton right leaning stuff that jack would love. Maybe that's the point - a winky love post for 6? "See how I'm giving Wish the business!"

Otherwise, it's so vacuous I don't see the point.


I don't read, watch or post links to Fox here.

I do, however, post links to the FEC database and the RCP polling aggregate. I do my own research and fact checking.

Funny that you're suspiciously absent in those threads.

Too much truth for you, I suppose.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Slam dunk eloquence, right there.

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Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
In one of WISHY'S harebrained threads (which I can't find) she goes on her usual rant about the Nazis "controlling her life".

Well, there are a few thoughts about that.

1) I doubt there is a "Nazi" anywhere near her house, let alone one who is stalking her and peeking in her bedroom window, or determining what she buys for dinner.

2) Does she have the idea that her life isn't ALREADY controlled? Not by "Nazis" but by the elite, who determine where the jobs will be (if any) and what kind they will be (If any)? Hasn't she had that experience already with her husband having a hard time working in coal mines and having to change jobs a few times already? And just wait until the Fed decides to raise interest rates and torpedo the economy!

3) "Liberals" ... the kind that WISHY supports (the authoritarian kind) want to take EVEN MORE control of her life! They want her to eat tofu and open a bedroom up for the nearest illegal alien/ homeless person. If you look at AOC's proposals they're extremely controlling (just like WISHY). I don't think WISHY has any idea how all of those proposals would impact her family's life. In return for taking over peoples' essential control over their lives, they're given safe spaces and transgender bathrooms. Hmm... not such a Green New Deal and Just Society after all.

Centralized control is the problem, it doesn't matter if it's by the transnational elites or by the radical left via a national government (or a fascist national government).

Wait.
There exists a BungBetty harebrained thread in which she doesn't rant about that?

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:04 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't read, watch or post links to Fox here.



Didn't say you did. And, doesn't mean you don't echo the same talking points, "Dems suck" essentially. Is that correct?

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I do, however, post links to the FEC database and the RCP polling aggregate. I do my own research and fact checking.



Whoop-d-doo. You're suppose to.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Funny that you're suspiciously absent in those threads.
Too much truth for you, I suppose.



Actually, that's wrong. In one of those threads I called you out for posting polling data since you have repeatedly said polling data is bullsh*t.

SIGNUTS is just feeding the Trump agenda with a typically weak as sh*t hit job on "Liberals." That's what GOP/Trumpers have left: since they have nothing much positive to say about the Dunce in Chief, they attack "liberals." It's easier to focus people's hatred for "the other side" when you can group "anyone but us" into a package and the step on it. The nearly brain dead Trump base feeds off of this kind of simple thinking. "Tell me who and what to hate, master." I'm surprised for such a smart guy you don't see that. Just look at the title and then the lack of substance in her argument. Just rehashed popular and old talking points. Why? Do some research on that sh*t if you want some real truths.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 9:12 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Geez... with the master slave stuff.

Careful buddy. It's almost as if you're in a race with Nilbog to see who is more lacking in self awareness.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:21 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Geez... with the master slave stuff.

Careful buddy. It's almost as if you're in a race with Nilbog to see who is more lacking in self awareness.




It's a joke, dumbass. Careful you don't break your funny bone. Meanwhile you completely ignore the substance just to make a worthless comment. I'll never get tired of that defelection.

BTW, wasn't it SIGNYM who was whining about people around here being too tribal? And then this weak "liberal" smear? Huh.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 10:45 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You say it's a joke, but then you're always saying it.

That has to be at least the fifth time I've called you out on bullshit that you post and you say "jeez, it was a joke".

You don't comedy good.

Your comedy sounds exactly like anything else you post.




And I'm curious here. What was your point?

The fact that I happen to agree with Fox News that Democrats suck?

Okay. Sure. Ya got me. I agree with Fox News about something.

You don't have to watch or read Fox News to know that Democrats suck in 2019, and have for quite few years now. I've been around long enough to watch the evolution, and I used to be more or less on their side 15 years ago.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

It's a joke, dumbass. Careful you don't break your funny bone. Meanwhile you completely ignore the substance just to make a worthless comment. I'll never get tired of that defelection.= GSTRING

BTW, wasn't it SIGNYM who was whining about people around here being too tribal? And then this weak "liberal" smear? Huh.


Hey dumbass! Yeah, you! GSTRING! Now you're competing with THUGR for reading without comprehension?

Quote:

Centralized control is the problem, it doesn't matter if it's by the transnational elites or by the radical left via a national government (or a fascist national government).- SIGNY


I posted to point out that AOC came out with another harebrained plan to remake society, this one called Just Society. Also to point out that like her Green New Deal, it requires controlling everyone to make it work. Which kinda points up the problem that Big Government Liberaloids aren't any more about freedom than Big Government GOPers or Big Government "Nazis" or anything else Big Government.

If AOC is for a "just" society, then she failed to think her plan thru. Instead of relying on Big Government to distribute the concentration of wealth (that Big Government fostered in the first place) how about eliminating the processes by which SOME people get fabuloulsy wealthy in the first place? Speculation. Hedge funds. The stock market. Monopolies and oligopolies. The military industrial complex. Financed at low interest rates by banks which can make money out of thin air. Our government made the laws of incoporation and the banking laws and anti-monopoly laws and tax laws. If it wrote them, it can change them.

Think about it.

Our government is like the One Ring. You can capture it and try to use it "for good" or you can diminish it. But if you try and use it "for good" it will use you instead.

So how about helping come up with a plan to undo the damage that's been done in a way that's more durable than just compounding the problem?




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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 11:41 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You say it's a joke, but then you're always saying it.



That's because you frequently can't tell the difference, or are just acting stupid like Kookie and Spunkmeyer. If I say, "to understand comedy you have to have a higher IQ," am I serious or joking?

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That has to be at least the fifth time I've called you out on bullshit that you post and you say "jeez, it was a joke".



So, that's 5 times you had no clue.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Your comedy sounds exactly like anything else you post.



Maybe that's because the same person wrote both? God, you need a lot of hand holding.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And I'm curious here. What was your point?

The fact that I happen to agree with Fox News that Democrats suck?

Okay. Sure. Ya got me. I agree with Fox News about something.

You don't have to watch or read Fox News to know that Democrats suck in 2019, and have for quite few years now. I've been around long enough to watch the evolution, and I used to be more or less on their side 15 years ago.




Worthless

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 1:02 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
(For example, that I'm a Fascist because I oppose killing "all but 100" in order to "save" them.



God, I love trolling the trolls.
Wish I had more time for it...

Here's one for today.

BURN ALL THE NAZIS, BURN ALL THE FASCISTS, START A NEW WORLD AND RISE FROM THE ASHES

That should keep them busy with faux outrage for a few days. I got things to do.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:27 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 2:28 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Well, that took about 2 seconds. Hm. I wonder what I'll do with the rest of my next "few days".

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Wednesday, October 9, 2019 8:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
(For example, that I'm a Fascist because I oppose killing "all but 100" in order to "save" them.



God, I love trolling the trolls.
Wish I had more time for it...

Here's one for today.

BURN ALL THE NAZIS, BURN ALL THE FASCISTS, START A NEW WORLD AND RISE FROM THE ASHES

That should keep them busy with faux outrage for a few days. I got things to do.




Nobody has any outrage at anything you post, Nilbog.

We just cringe at your hypocrisy and laugh at your utter lack of self awareness is all.

Your mental instability is an endless source of amusement. Watching you devolve is like taking a trip to the zoo without having to leave the house.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 11, 2019 1:38 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



Nobody has any outrage at anything you post, Nilbog.

We just cringe at your hypocrisy and laugh at your utter lack of self awareness is all.

Your mental instability is an endless source of amusement.



Guess they just keep calling me bitch for the fun of it then

Your utter lack of brain cells can't begin to comprehend their objectives here.
You are just the kind of stooge they've been looking for.

FUCK THE NAZIS. FUCK THE FASCISTS. THIS TIME THE JEWS FIRE UP THE OVENS AND ROLL OUT THE GASES.



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Friday, October 11, 2019 3:03 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Guess they just keep calling me bitch for the fun of it then

No, it's mostly to see what idiocy you'll post in reply. Then I laugh!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Friday, October 11, 2019 5:16 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Guess they just keep calling me bitch for the fun of it then

No, it's mostly to see what idiocy you'll post in reply. Then I laugh!




So, it is for the fun of it.

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Friday, October 11, 2019 7:43 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:



Nobody has any outrage at anything you post, Nilbog.

We just cringe at your hypocrisy and laugh at your utter lack of self awareness is all.

Your mental instability is an endless source of amusement.



Guess they just keep calling me bitch for the fun of it then

Your utter lack of brain cells can't begin to comprehend their objectives here.
You are just the kind of stooge they've been looking for.

FUCK THE NAZIS. FUCK THE FASCISTS. THIS TIME THE JEWS FIRE UP THE OVENS AND ROLL OUT THE GASES.





Nah. It's because of posts like this. Every post you make.

You are a bitch. Whatever. No reason not to point it out.

Nobody is outraged about it. Plenty of bitches in the world.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 11, 2019 10:40 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Guess they just keep calling me bitch for the fun of it then

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
No, it's mostly to see what idiocy you'll post in reply. Then I laugh!

Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
So, it is for the fun of it.

Only after Wishi's reply! That reply is a vital part of it!

The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/rinse/spin/repeat/ cycle they mistake for reality.

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Friday, October 11, 2019 2:00 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just to go back to the OP for a moment ... there is obviously a role for centralized government. But centralized government has downsides, one of them being that it removes people's agency over their own lives. If everyone always appeals to Big Daddy Government to swoop in and "help" them, that's incentivizing personal and local helplessness.

Yanno, I've always been about responsibility and authority being matched. I've always been about resposibility and authority being at the lowest level necessary to solve a problem. And I've recently come to realize that centralization of production is extremely fragile. So there is a balance to be maintained between centralization and decentralization, and one of the functions of our centralized government could be to promote decentralization whenever possible, including preventing/reversing monopolization.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 11, 2019 4:48 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It's not that most people are stupid. I think everybody here has the capacity to to create and modify abstract thoughts. I think it's that most people are afraid, and nobody does their best thinking when they're afraid, and that includes me.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

You idiots have been oppressing the entire sexual spectrum as long as you have existed. I can't wait for the day your kind is dead - WISHIMAY

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Friday, October 11, 2019 5:11 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I would replace Liberals with Leftists , for what it's worth.

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