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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Trudeau won, but the liberals in general really didn't.

My guess is that his own government opposition will stymie him until the next election and he'll be out of office next election.


Meh. Even the conservatives in Canada are liberals though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think Trudeau is driven too much by political-correctness but I have no idea what the alternatives would be, so maybe he is the best choice.

My Canadian friend would like to see someone other than Liberal/ Conservative/ NDP. He doesn't like any of them because their collective foreign policy resides somewhere with our deep state, plus they don't mind supporting Israel's apartheid policies IIRC. Foreign-policy-wise seems like not much difference between them ...they all support NATO, Israel, and the EU ... correct?

So probably Canadians politicians run on domestic policies and I wouldn't be surprised if health care spending was a perennial issue. Budget deficits and energy policies also issues, since Canada makes a fair bit of money exporting tar-sands oil? Don't know much about your Conservative party in general; I imagine it would be strongest in the "plains" provinces (Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and possibly the NW Territories and Yukon). Do they run on getting rid of Canada's single-payer health plan? I can't imagine that would be a winning plank! The last conservative that I heard about was the late mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford. He was entertaining as hell, but that's only because he wasn't my mayor! I assume the other Conservative politicians aren't as colorful but would be curious how you see the differences between the Liberals, the Consevatives, and the NDP.


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Wow. That's not just a bit shy of a majority, it's a LOT short!

Thanks for the numbers, Brenda!

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I see 307 liberals there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by Brenda:
The Liberals have won but they are a minority government this time around. Conservatives are the Loyal Opposition.

The Liberals will be joining with the NDP to make up the Federal government.

I'll get you the numbers later of breakdown of seats.

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Originally posted by FunctionX:
If Republicans were actually Republicans - you know:

- Fiscal Responsibility
- Staying the F out of people's lives
- Supporting small business / anti-monopoly
- Making a government so small it can barely be seen
- Privatizing all government services because the government can never compete / be as efficient as a coporate service for profit.

You know... the whole REPUBLICAN thing - then yes, I think they'd be the natural party for many Americans.

If the Democrats were actually Democrats - you know:

- Supporting honest living wages for American workers
- Rejecting illegal immigration because it takes from American jobs and goes against union working laws and conditions
- Treating Social Security, Welfare, and the possibility of socialized health care as a hand up, not a hand out

You know, the whole DEMOCRAT thing - then yes, they'd be the natural party for many Americans.

//Wondering if Libertarian = Browncoat?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I saw a YT video from a youngish guy in Canada. Maybe in his mid-thirties. He went into quite a lot of detail of the history of Canada and Canadian politics and certainly seemed to know what he was talking about.

It sounds like their "New Democratic Party" is nothing like our Democrats here, and their "Conservative Party" is not anything like our Republicans either.

I think the most interesting take away from that video is that their Democrat party (NOT the Liberal Party) is the most Nationalistic party of the bunch.


He also made the point that although the media worldwide seems to laud Canada as really having it together and that everyone in Canada is somehow in agreement that the politicians are doing the right thing that there is actually a lot of disagreement between people and politicians. As much as there is anywhere else at least.


Before Justin took control, Canada had been running a budget surplus for quite some time after Canada was on the brink of collapse from over-spending for so long. Justin ran on a platform of spending again and giving out all the freebies and won. They're nowhere near the asinine spending levels of the US now, but the deficit spending in Canada is rather large now under his leadership.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm only speaking from the "knowledge" I gained by watching a few videos that a guy in Canada who is a super fan of the Simpsons entire run had to say about Canadian politics... But yeah, that seems to be the gist of things on the surface level. Democrats and Conservatives seem to be flipped over there, while the Liberals are like the Twitter SJW's here.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It is funny to hear that Democrats and Conservatives are more or less flipped in Canada compared to here. Especially since aside from the French speaking citizens they do speak English and they're right next to us.

I'm sure the situation is a lot more nuanced than two carbon copy clones of our parties with swapped names though.

If you take the SJW "progressives" like A.O.C. and Omar out of the party and give them their own party (the Liberal party), then I probably agree with Canada's version of the Democrat party a lot more than I do our own.


As interesting as it is, I should probably exit this conversation at this point though, since I've already said too much.

I'm basing my opinion of Canada's politics off of my dislike for Tredeau and 45 minutes worth of YouTube videos from a 35 year old, who while he comes off as smart and sure of his analysis, might not know as much as he believes he knows.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

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Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

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I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Well, considering the US don't have a 'liberal' party, or a 'conservative' party, or a 'new democrat' party, or a 'Québécois' party - for example - it's a bit off-target to claim that Canada is a bad copy of US political divisions. And considering that many countries existed long before the US, and their political parties, their historical names, and aims nationally evolved for centuries long before the US, it's a also bit off-target to claim they're cattywampus to the US as well. Surely you've noticed the US doesn't have a 'labour' party or a 'tory' party, for example. It's not like the US sets come kind of global standard for political identification.

One needs to take each political division and its name on its own terms.

Oh, that also goes for falsely claiming people are 'Nazis'. That political ID was crafted for a particular set of ideas born in Germany in the 1920's. And while there are genuine Nazis today - in Europe (specifically Ukraine) - it's not a term one should use because of a minor resemblance to the real deal.

There are many other examples of the misunderstanding and misuse of political IDs.

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I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

For instance, Brenda oft mentions that she seems to despise Trump, when hating her Conservatoives islike hating Democrats.in America

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JSF, I do despise Trump. Conservatism may not be the same flavour as in the US but that still doesn't make them right. I usually vote NDP.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I meant no implication that America was the correct lens and the rest of the world was out of whack. Just that America slang was at odds with many other nations in the world, referencing political spectrum.

Not that anybody is right or wrong.
But to understand that "worldwide" Fake News such as CNN, BBC are intentionally being deceitful by using the terms in blanket fashion, knowingly trying to confuse their audience by using terms they know will confuse the audience.

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This is what I gathered from your posts.

It's an idea that should be explored more.

Maybe instead of trying to cram CRT down the throats of kids, they should be explaining concepts such as this to children.

Critical thinking is one of the most valuable skills a person can have, yet critical thinking is what the educational system in this country actively goes out of its way to destroy.

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Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.

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Yes, as we have been pointing out, the New Democrat Party in Canada is most like conservatives in America.

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The NDP in Canada is nothing like the Republican Party in the US.

These are from the NDP platform
https://www.ndp.ca/commitments

For example, under 'affordability' this is their platform
https://www.ndp.ca/affordability
Medicine for all
Quality, affordable child care when you need it
Better services all Canadians can rely on
Making sure everyone can afford a place to call home
Making Employment Insurance work for you
Affordable post-secondary education for everyone
Affordable, quality cell phone service and high-speed broadband for all


Then there's the economy, the environment, the social compact, reconciliation, and communities.

I'm pretty sure US Republicans would take great issue with the vast majority of the Canadian NDP platform.

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Are you claiming NDP are trying to destroy the economy of Canada?

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You seemed to have mentioned the "issues" that EVERY Party of Canada that I looked at has duplicated - when everybody is for something, then nobody is truly for it.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
It seems like you need a New Green Vaccination Passport between the US and Canada Border
the propaganda and fear may have damaged minds, added to suicides and depression, masked pedestrians you can watch the live youtube feeds and watch how people will jump in front of a car to avoid a possible Corona persopn or dodge away from you on the sidewalk.

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They have some strategy where they can call an early election?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I know. The Clintons over on this side of the border are insane.

Canada should probably build a wall to keep them out.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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