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No - YOU'RE such an ignorANUS.

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You think your opinion at the top comparing 'flu season' and COIVD-19 ...

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and attributing the reaction to social media (which btw I don't engage in at all) - means something.

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You think your opinion at the top comparing 'flu season' and COIVD-19 ...

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both of which are viruses... tick.

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and attributing the reaction to social media (which btw I don't engage in at all) - means something.

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So you are completely ignorant of social media and yet have a definitive opinion of it? It doesn't get much more ignorant than that, Kiki. Totally in character though.

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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.

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Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?

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both of which are viruses... tick.

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So is rabies. snicker Why don't you compare SARS-COV-2 to rabies? After all "both of which are viruses".

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"Don't participate" doesn't mean "completely ignorant of". Your constant lying - ...

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BTW - let's unpack your assumptions at the beginning fo your post - shall we?

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We'll get to this later after I school you about the flu.

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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.

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Why? What's your ahem! reasoning?

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We'll get to this later after I school you about the flu.

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Not to you I couldn't - 'cuz you're an angry old fool.

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^See above.

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And I'm still waiting. I'm guessing you are googling "social media" so you can figure out what it is.

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It's too early to know what's going to ultimately happen with Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data. Has our obsession with social media made rational virus concerns cross over into panic and then go viral?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season-2017-2018.htm

What was the 2017-2018 flu season like?
The 2017-2018 influenza season was a high severity season with high levels of outpatient clinic and emergency department visits for influenza-like illness (ILI), high influenza-related hospitalization rates, and elevated and geographically widespread influenza activity for an extended period. In 2017, CDC began using new methodology to classify seasonal severity and applied the methodology to the 2003-2004 through 2016-2017 seasons. The 2017-18 season was the first season to be classified as a high severity across all age groups.

When did the 2017-2018 flu season peak?
During the 2017-2018 season, influenza-like-illness (ILI) activity began to increase in November, reaching an extended period of high activity during January and February nationally, and remained elevated through the end of March. ILI peaked at 7.5%, the highest percentage since the 2009 flu pandemic, which peaked at 7.7%. Influenza-like illness (ILI) was at or above the national baseline for 19 weeks, making the 2017-2018 season one of the longest in recent years.

For more information, see the MMWR: 2017-18 Influenza Activity Update or visit FluView Interactive.

How many people died from flu during the 2017-2018 season?
While flu deaths in children are reported to CDC, flu deaths in adults are not nationally notifiable. In order to monitor influenza related deaths in all age groups, CDC tracks pneumonia and influenza (P&I)-attributed deaths through the National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS) Mortality Reporting System. This system tracks the proportion of death certificates processed that list pneumonia or influenza as the underlying or contributing cause of death. This system provides an overall indication of whether flu-associated deaths are elevated, but does not provide an exact number of how many people died from flu.

During the 2017-2018 season, the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. During the past five seasons, the average number of weeks this indicator was above threshold was 11 (range of 7 to 15 weeks). Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018.

As it does for the numbers of flu cases, doctor’s visits and hospitalizations, CDC also estimates deaths in the United States using mathematical modeling. CDC estimates that from 2010-2011 to 2013-2014, influenza-associated deaths in the United States ranged from a low of 12,000 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 56,000 (during 2012-2013). Death certificate data and weekly influenza virus surveillance information was used to estimate how many flu-related deaths occurred among people whose underlying cause of death on their death certificate included respiratory or circulatory causes. For more information, see Estimating Seasonal Influenza-Associated Deaths in the United States and CDC’s Disease Burden of Influenza page.

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Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.

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both of which are viruses... tick.

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You're such a f-wad. Is rabies spread the same way the flu is?

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So let me highlight this first

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Covid-19, but interesting to look back to recent influenza data.

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both of which are viruses... tick.

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When I pointed out that rabies is also a virus you claimed it was because

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You're such a f-wad. Is rabies spread the same way the flu is?

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I'm going to point out that the article YOU linked that we should pay attention to says NOTHING about how the flu is spread.

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So, why would YOU post this article in relation to Covid-19? It's YOUR POST after all. Explain why YOU posted it!

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For the last couple weeks I have had the nagging feeling that most news media were overhyping this virus. It started with the giant, scary micro pictures of the virus blown way up on screen behind every talking head. Really? You need to do that? They were everywhere.

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And yet, to me the numbers of infected seemed small, the mortality rate seemed relatively low. Just a hunch, though. I wondered how did this rate compare to past Big Bad viruses or even the average flu? So I posted numbers for infection and mortality caused by something we'd all be familiar with, something that happens every year. You have heard of the Flu, right?

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I also posted wondering about the age of the deceased because it stood out to me that no one was saying it. Just "elderly and those with current health issues are high risk."

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That says nothing except that they probably aren't saying for a reason.

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If this is just very old

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then the story is less scary, the need to keep tuning in is less compulsive.

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Jack posted that the average age so far is 80.

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Which is the same part of the population that is always in danger of viruses.

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Novo virus hit a few senior care facilities in our city, some in care died, and they went on lock down. So nothing new there.

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Plus: The infection curve for China - the hardest hit - has had a down turn. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is China."

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I recently posted that for the first time in South Korea (the second hardest hit), the recovery numbers were greater than new infections. But you don't see stories about "the good news that is S Korea."

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One of the few exceptions to the drama/panic news that stood out: CNN had a video of a women in Seattle who told her story of going to a party, coming down with the virus and then recovering. "You will get better - not much different than the common flu."

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I think part of why we see the infection rates seem to ramp up so alarmingly is because more and more people are becoming aware of c-19 and seeking testing. And more and more tests are being done because more testing kits are becoming available. There are more people getting infected as well, of course - together they ramp up the numbers exponentially and created an artificial sense of a virus that is out of control.

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For the last couple weeks I have had the nagging feeling that most news media were overhyping this virus. It started with the giant, scary micro pictures of the virus blown way up on screen behind every talking head. Really? You need to do that? They were everywhere.

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OK, you saturated yourself with the m$m. fwiw I think it was over-hyped BUT UNDER-EXPLAINED.

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And yet, to me the numbers of infected seemed small, the mortality rate seemed relatively low. Just a hunch, though. I wondered how did this rate compare to past Big Bad viruses or even the average flu? So I posted numbers for infection and mortality caused by something we'd all be familiar with, something that happens every year. You have heard of the Flu, right?

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And that's your first mistake. There is no such thing as 'THE Flu'.

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But let's break your little piece of propaganda down...zzzzzzzzzzzzz....

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But thanks for the bump!

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But thanks for the bump!

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Bump for what??!?
How many people do you think come here?
Bump so people can see you being dumb ass?

Bump!

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