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Idiot fascist prez pushes state executions without trials of people he doesn't like, because he doesn't have ANY IDEA how this country works.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 12:09 PM
WISHIMAY
Sunday, September 13, 2020 12:19 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 1:24 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by WISHIMAY: https://frontier.yahoo.com/news/trump-described-killing-antifa-linked-125814993.html President Con-ald Chump in a Faux News interview Saturday described the fatal shooting of an antifa-linked murder suspect by US Marshals last week as an act of "retribution." The fatal shooting by the law enforcement officers has come under scrutiny, with one witness claiming that they did not try and arrest the suspect before opening fire.
Quote:And apparently, he's terrified of soup cans https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/apparently-trump-very-scared-antifa-154120133.html A video clip from July resurfaced of Trump claiming that protestors’ new weapon of choice is…a can of soup. He argued that these cans — and sometimes bags — of soup were more dangerous than bricks, because, apparently, if protestors were caught with them, they could feign innocence.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 2:31 PM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Trump Endorses Extrajudicial Executions: Killing of Antifa Suspect Was “Retribution” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/trump-endorses-extrajudicial-executions-retribution-reinoehl.html Hitler would be proud.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:58 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2020 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: Trump Endorses Extrajudicial Executions: Killing of Antifa Suspect Was “Retribution” https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/trump-endorses-extrajudicial-executions-retribution-reinoehl.html Hitler would be proud. Trump is just a piker compared to Obama when it comes to extrajudicial killing. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, for a moment there I thought you were referring to Obama and his infamous "kill list" of people slated for assasination by drone strike.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:25 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:40 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 4:45 PM
Quote:Power Wars: How Obama justified, expanded Bush-era surveillance
Sunday, September 13, 2020 5:07 PM
Quote:A video clip from July resurfaced of Trump claiming that protestors’ new weapon of choice is…a can of soup. He argued that these cans — and sometimes bags — of soup were more dangerous than bricks, because, apparently, if protestors were caught with them, they could feign innocence.
Sunday, September 13, 2020 5:54 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: People don't understand that their first black president was just as bad as GWB was and he was just a temporary holding measure who was a friendly to both the Bush Dynasty and the Clinton Dynasty... Warmongering NeoCons and NeoLibs who were essentially all part of the same group... Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:46 PM
Sunday, September 13, 2020 10:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: People don't understand that their first black president was just as bad as GWB was and he was just a temporary holding measure who was a friendly to both the Bush Dynasty and the Clinton Dynasty... Warmongering NeoCons and NeoLibs who were essentially all part of the same group... Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, September 13, 2020 11:25 PM
Monday, September 14, 2020 12:18 AM
Monday, September 14, 2020 12:48 AM
Monday, September 14, 2020 12:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Whatever faggot. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Monday, September 14, 2020 2:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Tell us what Trump has done that even compares in severity to Obama and Bush. BE SPECIFIC. I'm always ready to listen to facts and logic. Just don't try to snow me with bullshit and your excess of emotion.
Monday, September 14, 2020 2:52 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: People don't understand that their first black president was just as bad as GWB was and he was just a temporary holding measure who was a friendly to both the Bush Dynasty and the Clinton Dynasty... Warmongering NeoCons and NeoLibs who were essentially all part of the same group. Trump is not part of that group.
Monday, September 14, 2020 3:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Tell us what Trump has done that even compares in severity to Obama and Bush. BE SPECIFIC. I'm always ready to listen to facts and logic. Just don't try to snow me with bullshit and your excess of emotion. TWITCHY: Hey didja hear about that little Covid thing and the couple hundred thousand dead(at least he saved us from panicking, right, lol)?? Didja hear about all the money his family defrauded from CHARITY? But why bother to go on, when you're too dense to get THOSE
Quote:The Clinton Foundation Has Lost More Than $30 Million Since Hillary Clinton Lost The 2016 Election By Emily Zanotti Nov 20, 2019 DailyWire.com The Clinton Foundation has been on a financial skid since Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, a new report from the Washington Free Beacon shows. According to tax records filed on behalf of the Foundation for the last several years, the Clinton Foundation, which once touted itself as a massive global force for good, but often looked to be little more than a roundabout way of influencing the political priorities of its three leaders — Bill and Hillary Clinton and their daughter Chelsea — is now a mere shell of its former self, having lost around half of its value after Hillary Clinton failed to win the White House... Altogether, the Free Beacon says, that means the Clinton foundation has come up $30 million short since 2016. The Clintons have been adamant that the Foundation isn’t necessarily a clearinghouse for off-the-books political giving (though, in fairness, it also serves as an employment opportunity for their daughter), but as the Free Beacon points out, the best fundraising years the Clinton Foundation just happened to be the same years Hillary Clinton served as Secretary of State, and the same years she was running a presidential campaign. Between 2008 and 2016, it seems, the Foundation’s fundraising was in the billions.
Quote:It likely does not help that the Federal government has since instituted an investigation into the internal workings of the Clinton Foundation — and specifically how money was spent and whether “donors to the foundation were improperly promised policy favors or special access to Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state in exchange for donations to the charity’s coffers, as well as whether tax-exempt funds were misused,” according to CNN.
Monday, September 14, 2020 4:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Really, child, that's so quaint that you think Hillary, Biden, and Obama are any better than Trump! Fascism is an ECONOMIC policy whereby the state exists to serve corporations.
Monday, September 14, 2020 5:44 AM
Monday, September 14, 2020 5:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: People don't understand that their first black president was just as bad as GWB was and he was just a temporary holding measure who was a friendly to both the Bush Dynasty and the Clinton Dynasty... Warmongering NeoCons and NeoLibs who were essentially all part of the same group. Trump is not part of that group.What people don't understand about Trump is that he's the first President to cancel every nuclear weapons treaty and the first to increase the national debt faster than even during WWII. We've had fat Presidents (Taft) and dumb Presidents (Franklin Pierce. You never heard him, have you?) and crooks for President (Warren G. Harding) but Trump is the first fat dumb crook President. www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/06/13/cost-of-war-13-most-expensive-wars-in-us-history/39556983/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Pierce The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Monday, September 14, 2020 9:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: BTW, "fascism" DOESN'T mean authoritarian, tyrannical, racist, genocidal, or the other pejoratives that you seem to attach to it. Fascism is an ECONOMIC policy whereby the state exists to serve corporations. And since most of ou Presidents have served our banks, transnationals, and MIC AT THE EXPENSE OF MOST AMMERICANS I would submit to you that THEY are the fascists. https://refusefascism.org/ Refuse fascism, indeed. I'm with you on that! Just know what it is that you're refusing!
Monday, September 14, 2020 10:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Really, child, that's so quaint that you think Hillary, Biden, and Obama are any better than Trump! Fascism is an ECONOMIC policy whereby the state exists to serve corporations. TWITCHY: Really, old bitch?? Did I say a damn thing about Hillary, Biden, or Obama?? Now that you mention it though, I'd take a thirty year presidency of any one of them over ten minutes of Chumpie. I suppose you would know more about fascism than anyone seeing as you support all the dictators, you traitor.
Monday, September 14, 2020 10:35 AM
Quote:SIGNYM: BTW, "fascism" DOESN'T mean authoritarian, tyrannical, racist, genocidal, or the other pejoratives that you seem to attach to it. Fascism is an ECONOMIC policy whereby the state exists to serve corporations. And since most of our Presidents have served our banks, transnationals, and MIC AT THE EXPENSE OF MOST AMMERICANS I would submit to you that THEY are the fascists. https://refusefascism.org/ Refuse fascism, indeed. I'm with you on that! Just know what it is that you're refusing! REAVERBOT: Why are you lying? We're not trumptards. We don't automatically believe what a proven liar and Russian troll says. That's what 6ix does. We're all smarter than that idiot. Daily Wire? Bitch, please! That's a pro-fascist source. Putin is a fascist, so is Trump, and so are you.
Monday, September 14, 2020 10:39 AM
Monday, September 14, 2020 8:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:SIGNYM: BTW, "fascism" DOESN'T mean authoritarian, tyrannical, racist, genocidal, or the other pejoratives that you seem to attach to it. Fascism is an ECONOMIC policy whereby the state exists to serve corporations. And since most of our Presidents have served our banks, transnationals, and MIC AT THE EXPENSE OF MOST AMMERICANS I would submit to you that THEY are the fascists. https://refusefascism.org/ Refuse fascism, indeed. I'm with you on that! Just know what it is that you're refusing! REAVERBOT: Why are you lying? We're not trumptards. We don't automatically believe what a proven liar and Russian troll says. That's what 6ix does. We're all smarter than that idiot. Daily Wire? Bitch, please! That's a pro-fascist source. Putin is a fascist, so is Trump, and so are you.
Monday, September 14, 2020 8:35 PM
Quote:The U.S. government believes it can legally justify the killing of American citizens in drone strikes: In 2014 (under Obama), the Justice Department released a secret 2011 memo (also under Obama) that explained the legal justification for killing American terror suspects living overseas without trial. * The U.S. keeps killing Americans in drone strikes, mostly by accident https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/04/23/the-u-s-keeps-killing-americans-in-drone-strikes-mostly-by-accident/ * http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/legal-memo-backing-drone-strike-is-released/2014/06/23/1f48dd16-faec-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_14
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:47 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan:
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 12:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Every time I read this I keep thinking about ways to distract from the current topic by beating a dead horse and pushing my fascist agendas.
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 1:58 AM
Quote:TWITCHY: you, Chump, ALL THE FASCISTS
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:42 AM
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:00 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: This is also from the Snopes link: "The 542 drone strikes that Obama authorized killed an estimated 3,797 people, including 324 civilians." And US citizens. Let's not forget them. Presumably the 542 drones strikes were for 542 'targets' It got me to wondering ... there are 416 weeks in 8 years. So at a minimum, on average, Obama ordered 1 execution per week. How did he do that? Did he pencil it in on his calendar?: Monday 09:25 - 09:30 sign execution warrant for whomever the CIA wants dead. Did people just drop in ad hoc as soon as the papers were drafted?: Hey, Obama! We got another one for you to sign! And supposedly he watched them all from the situation room as they unfolded. Was that like presidential death porn that they rewarded him with, for not being able to run his own foreign policy? No matter how I think about it, it sure is creepy.
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Please take your meds, dear. There are no fascists here. If you can't figure that out, then I doubt you would recognize a real fascist even if you saw one.
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Please take your meds, dear. There are no fascists here. If you can't figure that out, then I doubt you would recognize a real fascist even if you saw one. Fascism (/'fæ??z?m/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Yup - Trump in every sense (at least in his tiny brain those are things he aspires to). And you know he does. authoritarian - "Only I can fix this" - check ultranationalism - MAGA - check dictatorial power - are you kidding? "3rd term..." CHECK forcible suppression of opposition - black ops on the street arresting peaceful protestors - working on it - Check strong regimentation of society - exiling non-whites - check economy - "Open up!" - check Trump Fascist - Check But Donnie d-wad doesn't care about definitions. He just cares about Power. He wants to do anything but live in a democratic society. How about you guys?
Quote:fascism [ fash-iz-uhm ] 1. (sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism. 2. (sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism. 3. (initial capital letter) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.
Quote:At the same time, however, he was gaining a reputation as a young man of strange magnetism and remarkable rhetorical talents. He read widely and voraciously, if not deeply, plunging into the philosophers and theorists Immanuel Kant, Benedict de Spinoza, Peter Kropotkin, Friedrich Nietzsche, G.W.F. Hegel, Karl Kautsky, and Georges Sorel, picking out what appealed to him and discarding the rest, forming no coherent political philosophy of his own yet impressing his companions as a potential revolutionary of uncommon personality and striking presence. While earning a reputation as a political journalist and public speaker, he produced propaganda for a trade union, proposing a strike and advocating violence as a means of enforcing demands. Repeatedly, he called for a day of vengeance. More than once he was arrested and imprisoned. When he returned to Italy in 1904, even the Roman newspapers had started to mention his name.
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 8:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Yeah, I'm sure that's how it went... fckske. :eyeball:
Quote:Meanwhile, Obama you say 1 US citizen (over simplified)
Quote: Trump? 200,000 US citizens and counting.
Quote: ALL IN THIS COUNTRY. He doesn't even have to go to a conflict zone to kill Americans. Just because we can't travel outside the US because he's turning us into a sh*thole country and no one will let us in, he can still kill US Citizens by staying right here at home. I suppose he's saving fuel??
Quote:Meanwhile, president fwad, from your article: "In March 2018, Trump revoked an Obama executive order requiring an annual disclosure of civilian deaths resulting from drone strikes. The Bureau of Investigative Journalism also reported that the number of drone strikes ratcheted up during Trump’s first year in office, doubling in Somalia and tripling in Yemen."
Quote:It's almost like Trump is hiding something.
Quote:But you have no problem with him killing even more people over seas by drone and more US citizens by ignorance and indifference??? Is that what you ok with? Misplaced loyalties much? Or just sh*t logic? Bad math maybe?
Quote:Look, even DumbAssJack knows Trumps a piece of shit - surely that means you do too. So why defend him? Unless...
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 9:53 AM
Tuesday, September 15, 2020 5:19 PM
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Bullshit definition, fuckwit. Where'd you get it from? Vox?
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nothing about Right Wing in there, cunt, let alone far-right.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: In fact, this was Mussolini - https://www.britannica.com/biography/Benito-Mussolini
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 9:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Obama...Even American citizens.... at least a dozen ... "mostly by accident" as WaPo says.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: LET'S PLAY A GAME OF "FIND ME THAT QUOTE". Yanno, where I 'defended' Trump.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Or is that that you just can't stand to see Obama rightfully criticized for the many things he did that were wrong?
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 10:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Bullshit definition, fuckwit. Where'd you get it from? Vox? Wikipedia. It's a web site.
Quote:Fascism (/'fæ??z?m/) is a form of authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, as well as strong regimentation of society and of the economy[3] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[4]
Quote:This is an old revision of this page, as edited by James76255 (talk | contribs) at 13:26, 1 September 2020 (While many claim fascism is "far right wing", the literal definition has nothing to do with left or right politics.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
Quote: So you got one from dictionary.com thinking because it says "dictionary" it's the final word? What a simp.
Quote:How many hours did it take you to find that?
Quote:#2 is awesome, "fascism is fascism" - wow, so complete.
Quote:Really? FROM YOUR OWN LINK: "...fascism is used to refer to any ideology or movement seen as authoritarian, nationalistic, and extremely right wing,..."
Quote:Did you even read your own link? I know for you reading is like holding your breath, "I can't keep doing it! I have to stop! It hurts!" I'm impressed that you actually know how to copy and paste from Britannica.
Quote:fas·?cism | \ 'fa-?shi-z?m also 'fa-?si- \ Definition of fascism 1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition 2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control early instances of army fascism and brutality— J. W. Aldridge
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 11:58 AM
Quote: Accident - huh. Trump - incompetence and lying.
Quote:And were these US citizens part of a radical Islamic group? Were they fomenting violence against the US?
Quote:Compared to Trump's actions willfully causing the deaths of average, innocent US citizens. 30,000? 50,000 versus... "at least a dozen" ??
Quote: Lying or stupid?
Quote: Originally posted by 1KIKI: LET'S PLAY A GAME OF "FIND ME THAT QUOTE". Yanno, where I 'defended' Trump.
Quote:Ok, this post is a defense of Trump. Done, I win.
Quote:My turn. Let's play a game where you have to drink bleach every time you bring up an obvious deflection, like: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Or is that that you just can't stand to see Obama rightfully criticized for the many things he did that were wrong?I don't give a fuk about any democrat, even less for ones out of office, so you can drop your stupid sh*t any time.
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 1:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Ok, this post is a defense of Trump. Done, I win.
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 1:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: This is true. But Wikipedia is run by a bunch of leftist cunts who hate Trump and are trying desperately to WRONGLY tie the words Nationalism and Fascism together, so we've got the false info up there.
Wednesday, September 16, 2020 2:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Nope. Nothing about right-wing there either.
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