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Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You think the 2020 rioting was bad?

Just wait until a few million people have something legitimate to start burning shit down over when the banks take their houses and their kids start starving because COVID Karens destroyed their lives and rich politicians couldn't stop politicking.

I know people like Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit when they have their $24,000 freezer full of DOVE bars and top shelf barrels of whisky waiting back home at them after the failure of the bill today, but I doubt very much that she has enough security to stop the people that are going to be coming for her if they keep jerking off much longer.


They'd best get started building those moats around their Ivory Towers that I suggested Second build around his place many years ago when I actually believed that he had any money.


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Thursday, September 10, 2020 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I know people like Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit when they have their $24,000 freezer full of DOVE bars and top shelf barrels of whisky waiting back home at them after the failure of the bill today, but I doubt very much that she has enough security to stop the people that are going to be coming for her if they keep jerking off much longer.

They'd best get started building those moats around their Ivory Towers that I suggested Second build around his place many years ago when I actually believed that he had any money.

Pelosi offered $3 trillion, but Mitch McConnell wouldn't even allow the Senate to vote on that bill. Four months later, his slow and low counteroffer is $0.3 trillion, which not all Republican Senators would accept. It is McConnell who will have a burning car tire placed around his neck by rioters. That is assuming those Trump loving rioters understand that $3.0 trillion is larger than $0.3 trillion. Who knows if they do?

House Passes $3 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Bill That Has Dim Future in the Senate -- May 15, 2020 -- www.npr.org/2020/05/15/856095507/house-passes-3-trillion-coronavirus-r
elief-bill-that-has-dim-future


House lawmakers on Friday approved a Democratic proposal to provide $3 trillion in coronavirus relief that would include a new wave of help for state and local governments, workers and families.

The House voted 208 to 199 — largely along party lines — to pass the measure. The size of the bill represents the biggest ever proposed and it includes another round of direct cash payments to Americans, extends unemployment benefits to the end of January, and adds hazard pay for front-line workers. It also expands virus-testing efforts, contact tracing and treatment.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. It did include all of that.

And a few thousand pages of shit that nobody wanted as well, with a large majority of that NOT helping anybody who actually needs help right now.


The bill today would have helped a lot of people.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:33 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. It did include all of that.

And a few thousand pages of shit that nobody wanted too.


The bill today would have helped a lot of people.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Pelosi's bill had a thousand pages of legalese so that Trump could not divert $billions to the Mexico wall.

Mitch McConnell never scheduled a vote on Pelosi's $3 trillion bill because Mitch doesn't think Trump will win and that means most of the $trillions would be available to smooth the first months of Biden's Presidency. Mitch wants Biden's entire term to be a continuous crisis. Best way to make Biden a one-term President is for Mitch's Senate to never pass any bills for the next four years. If there are 41 GOP Senators to filibuster all bills, Mitch can keep America in chaos for years and win back the White House in 2024. That is Mitch's plan for America.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


But that's fine.

We can sit and argue about it right here just like the idiots in Congress do in between their never-ending spring breaks... and god forbid any of them miss the vote to give themselves another raise.

But the time for idley arguing is rapidly coming to a close.

Except for the people who are staring down the end of their lives as they know it and have no voice to talk about the terror that brings to them, everybody else can just pretend that the COVID death counts or police shooting rapists and murderers even matter in the grand scheme of things.


Literally everything in this country is about to change. Even good people can do very bad things when their backs are to the wall and they've lost everything. And we're about to have a whole fuckton of them living among us.


Hope ya'all think the measures taken to protect some people who had other pre-existing conditions and were beyond the average American age expectancy was worth it when somebody is breaking into your house and pointing a gun at your head demanding some food... and then maybe just lighting the place on fire on their way out because they're salty that you still had a roof over your head.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 11:55 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Literally everything in this country is about to change. Even good people can do very bad things when their backs are to the wall and they've lost everything. And we're about to have a whole fuckton of them living among us.

Hope ya'all think the measures taken to protect some people who had other pre-existing conditions and were beyond the average American age expectancy was worth it when somebody is breaking into your house for some food... and then maybe just lighting the place on fire on their way out because they're salty that you still had a roof over your head.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Life in America isn't the movie Les Misérables and Trump lovers are not the good man Jean Valjean who went to prison for stealing a loaf of bread. It is bad Americans who do bad things when placed under any pressure. If Mitch McConnell wants to demonstrate how Trump loving voters are really savage criminals underneath, then Mitch should refuse to allow a vote on Pelosi's $3 trillion bill. I look forward to a mob of Republicans running amok. I'll go tomorrow to Eagle Ammo to be ready. https://baytowneagle.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Valjean

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 11, 2020 12:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Literally everything in this country is about to change. Even good people can do very bad things when their backs are to the wall and they've lost everything. And we're about to have a whole fuckton of them living among us.

Hope ya'all think the measures taken to protect some people who had other pre-existing conditions and were beyond the average American age expectancy was worth it when somebody is breaking into your house for some food... and then maybe just lighting the place on fire on their way out because they're salty that you still had a roof over your head.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Life in America isn't the movie Les Misérables and Trump lovers are not the good man Jean Valjean who went to prison for stealing a loaf of bread. It is bad Americans who do bad things when placed under any pressure. If Mitch McConnell wants to demonstrate how Trump loving voters are really savage criminals underneath, then Mitch should refuse to allow a vote on Pelosi's $3 trillion bill. I look forward to a mob of Republicans running amok. I'll go tomorrow to Eagle Ammo to be ready. https://baytowneagle.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Valjean

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Keep pretending this is a partisan issue.

And also keep pretending that good people don't do bad things when they've got nothing left to lose.


The only smart thing you've ever had to say since I've seen you in the RWED is that you're loading up on ammo.


How very NOT Democrat of you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 11, 2020 12:31 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

...I know people like Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit

...Keep pretending this is a partisan issue.





...And also keep pretending that good people don't do bad things when they've got nothing left to lose.




I don't know for sure Second, but it sounds to me like LazyBoy is running out of dough and getting worried....It sound like that to you??


https://refusefascism.org/

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Friday, September 11, 2020 12:43 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Keep pretending this is a partisan issue.

And also keep pretending that good people don't do bad things when they've got nothing left to lose.

The only smart thing you've ever had to say since I've seen you in the RWED is that you're loading up on ammo.

How very NOT Democrat of you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is a partisan issue. Mitch McConnell has not yet allowed a vote on Pelosi's $3 trillion bill because Mitch sees that money as helping smooth out President Biden's first months in office. If Mitch won't vote, it won't be Democrats who break into houses, steal food, than burn it down. And it's not ammo or a gun that make a man deadly to criminals; it is the glee, the willingness to knock a criminal down and pull the trigger when up close and very personal. That opportunity to set the world right one criminal at a time never happens when deer hunting, but then deer are quieter and carefuller about how they live than Trump loving voters, rioters, burglars and arsonists. Sounds very Judge Dredd, doesn't it? I'm looking forward to playing the role after, or around, Halloween. There will be candy and gunfire. Maybe it will become an American tradition to hunt down Trump voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 11, 2020 1:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

...I know people like Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit

...Keep pretending this is a partisan issue.





...And also keep pretending that good people don't do bad things when they've got nothing left to lose.




I don't know for sure Second, but it sounds to me like LazyBoy is running out of dough and getting worried....It sound like that to you??


https://refusefascism.org/



I hate to break it to you, but since I've been unemployed, I've put $5k into my house, paid my dentures in full and I've got twice as much money saved up right now as when I was laid off 15 months ago... all while still maintaining my 820+ credit score and having zero debt to anybody. I wouldn't have just put $600 into fixing my asphalt driveway if I was at all worried about where my food was going to come from 2 years from now, let alone next week.


Unlike you, Nilbog, I actually empathize with other people and their struggles and I don't go around doing the Marxist Virtue Signalling shtick because I'm riddled with guilt about what color the people who fucked were when they made me.

There will be far more Democrats that are out on their ass than Republicans when this happens at the end of the day. It will likely be far more minorities that are disproportionately affected than whites as well.

Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own.

But these are things I don't feel the need to preface every single thing I talk about with because I'm not a racist and I don't view everything under the microscope of race like you do.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 11, 2020 7:50 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I hate to break it to you, but since I've been unemployed, I've put $5k into my house, paid my dentures in full and I've got twice as much money saved up right now as when I was laid off 15 months ago... all while still maintaining my 820+ credit score and having zero debt to anybody. I wouldn't have just put $600 into fixing my asphalt driveway if I was at all worried about where my food was going to come from 2 years from now, let alone next week.


Unlike you, Nilbog, I actually empathize with other people and their struggles and I don't go around doing the Marxist Virtue Signalling shtick because I'm riddled with guilt about what color the people who fucked were when they made me.

There will be far more Democrats that are out on their ass than Republicans when this happens at the end of the day. It will likely be far more minorities that are disproportionately affected than whites as well.

Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own.

But these are things I don't feel the need to preface every single thing I talk about with because I'm not a racist and I don't view everything under the microscope of race like you do.

I remember Trump shutting down the government: "Longest shutdown in history ends after Trump relents on wall"
www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/trump-shutdown-announcement-1125529

Way back then, 6ixStringJack, you were worried that mobs of hungry blacks from Chicago would break into your house because the food stamp program had no money. You blamed the Democrats, just as you are doing now, not Trump.

Are you fucking kidding me when you write: "Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own." - 6ix.
Unless this is part of your first political campaign for office, 6ix, don't write stuff like that ever again; you are giving a false picture of yourself and your caring and what you are willing to pay for. The true picture: you and every other Trump voter I know, except the rich ones who actually have the abilities/virtues/courage/motivation/energy you wished you had, are the most selfish, cheapest, hardhearted jerks in America. That is the real GOP party platform. Go and read it: https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 then compare the GOP platform with the Democrat platform: https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, September 11, 2020 10:43 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You think the 2020 rioting was bad?

Just wait until a few million people have something legitimate to start burning shit down over when the banks take their houses and their kids start starving because COVID Karens destroyed their lives and rich politicians couldn't stop politicking.


Wow! Now that's a tv show just begging to be made. It's got action, passion, violence, human suffering, good vs. evil, etc., etc. It'll be bigger than Walking Dead and Young Sheldon combined!


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Friday, September 11, 2020 10:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I hate to break it to you, but since I've been unemployed, I've put $5k into my house, paid my dentures in full and I've got twice as much money saved up right now as when I was laid off 15 months ago... all while still maintaining my 820+ credit score and having zero debt to anybody. I wouldn't have just put $600 into fixing my asphalt driveway if I was at all worried about where my food was going to come from 2 years from now, let alone next week.


Unlike you, Nilbog, I actually empathize with other people and their struggles and I don't go around doing the Marxist Virtue Signalling shtick because I'm riddled with guilt about what color the people who fucked were when they made me.

There will be far more Democrats that are out on their ass than Republicans when this happens at the end of the day. It will likely be far more minorities that are disproportionately affected than whites as well.

Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own.

But these are things I don't feel the need to preface every single thing I talk about with because I'm not a racist and I don't view everything under the microscope of race like you do.

I remember Trump shutting down the government: "Longest shutdown in history ends after Trump relents on wall"
www.politico.com/story/2019/01/25/trump-shutdown-announcement-1125529

Way back then, 6ixStringJack, you were worried that mobs of hungry blacks from Chicago would break into your house because the food stamp program had no money. You blamed the Democrats, just as you are doing now, not Trump.

Are you fucking kidding me when you write: "Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own." - 6ix.
Unless this is part of your first political campaign for office, 6ix, don't write stuff like that ever again; you are giving a false picture of yourself and your caring and what you are willing to pay for. The true picture: you and every other Trump voter I know, except the rich ones who actually have the abilities/virtues/courage/motivation/energy you wished you had, are the most selfish, cheapest, hardhearted jerks in America. That is the real GOP party platform. Go and read it: https://ballotpedia.org/The_Republican_Party_Platform,_2020 then compare the GOP platform with the Democrat platform: https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Second, I suspect you know this, but... Jackhole, like Trump, has no interest in intellectual discussion or finding truth. Just disruption and agitation. If you read everything he writes with that frame in mind, it all makes sense.

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Friday, September 11, 2020 11:00 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I hate to break it to you, but since I've been unemployed, I've put $5k into my house, paid my dentures in full and I've got twice as much money saved up right now as when I was laid off 15 months ago... all while still maintaining my 820+ credit score and having zero debt to anybody. I wouldn't have just put $600 into fixing my asphalt driveway if I was at all worried about where my food was going to come from 2 years from now, let alone next week.



All without a job? You rob a bank? Milking unemployment?

This is why I come here: for the laughs.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. WHITE Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own.



fify

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Friday, September 11, 2020 2:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You think the 2020 rioting was bad?

Just wait until a few million people have something legitimate to start burning shit down over when the banks take their houses and their kids start starving because COVID Karens destroyed their lives and rich politicians couldn't stop politicking.

I know people like Nancy Pelosi don't give a shit when they have their $24,000 freezer full of DOVE bars and top shelf barrels of whisky waiting back home at them after the failure of the bill today, but I doubt very much that she has enough security to stop the people that are going to be coming for her if they keep jerking off much longer.


They'd best get started building those moats around their Ivory Towers that I suggested Second build around his place many years ago when I actually believed that he had any money.

But Nancy needs her $1T of Dem Pork, otherwise she will not allow America any respite.

GOP has had gobs of Relief bills ready and waiting, but they just don't include Nancy's Pork.

Maybe campaign ads against current Dem representatives should point out: Did they vote for Nancy as Speaker?

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Friday, September 11, 2020 3:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Keep pretending this is a partisan issue.

And also keep pretending that good people don't do bad things when they've got nothing left to lose.

The only smart thing you've ever had to say since I've seen you in the RWED is that you're loading up on ammo.

How very NOT Democrat of you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is a partisan issue. Mitch McConnell has not yet allowed a vote on Pelosi's $3 trillion bill because Mitch sees that money as helping smooth out President Biden's first months in office. If Mitch won't vote,

it won't be Democrats who break into houses, steal food, than burn it down.


And it's not ammo or a gun that make a man deadly to criminals; it is the glee, the willingness to knock a criminal down and pull the trigger when up close and very personal. That opportunity to set the world right one criminal at a time never happens when deer hunting, but then deer are quieter and carefuller about how they live than Trump loving voters, rioters, burglars and arsonists. Sounds very Judge Dredd, doesn't it? I'm looking forward to playing the role after, or around, Halloween. There will be candy and gunfire. Maybe it will become an American tradition to hunt down Trump voters.

The Democrat and Progressive Criminals are going to suddenly stop breaking into homes, stealing food, and burning them down? How are you going to get them to suddenly change their stripes? Beware that would require them to start acting White, to stop acting their color.

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Friday, September 11, 2020 8:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I hate to break it to you, but since I've been unemployed, I've put $5k into my house, paid my dentures in full and I've got twice as much money saved up right now as when I was laid off 15 months ago... all while still maintaining my 820+ credit score and having zero debt to anybody. I wouldn't have just put $600 into fixing my asphalt driveway if I was at all worried about where my food was going to come from 2 years from now, let alone next week.



All without a job? You rob a bank? Milking unemployment?

This is why I come here: for the laughs.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yet these are the people I'm talking about. These are the people I'm empathizing with. WHITE Americans who were cut off at the knees and have no hope going forward due entirely to outside circumstances beyond their control and at no fault of their own.



fify




Come now, Cap'n Cuckklefuck.

Don't be salty that I'm just better than you at everything.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So... Here's a weird one.

https://archive.vn/rgrIR

Quote:

Wisconsin residents receiving an extra $300 in weekly unemployment benefits are being asked to pay back the money if Congress enacts new legislation to replace the jobless aid created by President Trump's executive action last month.


Ummmmm... Why?

Do they not know how money transfers work in Wisconsin? Or computers even?


And to add... Good luck on that. Seriously. "Pretty please, give us the money back."



At this point, it's unclear how any further stimulus would be handled when Congress enacts it. Nobody knows what the amount will be. Nobody knows what date it would be retroactive to. And actually, until reading this particular article, it seems to have always been assumed that it would be retroactive until the first week of August when the original enhanced benefits ran out.

But the article says this:

Quote:

The (Wisconsin) DWD is anticipating that if Congress passes new legislation, it will begin once Trump's Lost Wages Assistance program lapses for the week ended Sept. 5 so that there would be no overlap, they added.


Why would they anticipate this?

Democrats in Congress wanted the full $600 and some were willing to go down to $400. Republicans wanted $200. Nobody had ever mentioned $300 before Trump signed the executive order. I doubt very much if the extension ends up being less than $300 that they will retro it back to the beginning of August, but if it's $400 to $600 it is very likely that they will.

I would also assume that the money should probably be put back into the FEMA fund where it belongs as well.




So why ask the people to pay the money back? They've got computers. Just add up the amount of money paid through FEMA to each recipient, then deduct that from the lump-sum that is going to be retroactive, and then take that deducted amount from the "CARES ACT II" or whatever they're going to call it and send it back to FEMA. As long as the amount retroactively paid out is $300 or more, this shouldn't even be a thing that anybody has to think about besides the administrators of state UI websites.

Why on earth would you consider paying the full $400-$600 retroactive after you've already given them $300 from the FEMA and then try and make the claim that the recipients are double dipping?

They didn't do anything wrong. YOU PAID THEM TWICE.

You've literally got all the power and leverage here. Once YOU pay somebody twice you've given all of that away.

Figure it out, Wisconsin. WTF.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 11:42 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... It should also be noted for anybody who is filing for benefits right now, that I have read on one of the state websites that the FEMA $300 IS taxable just like the rest of Unemployment and the Enhanced benefits are, but that the state is unable to take out the taxes beforehand for the FEMA payouts for some reason.

I can't remember what state I read that on, and I don't know if that is a state thing or if that's how everybody is handling it nationwide, but do keep that in mind. You may be getting a full $300 weekly payment from Trump's executive order, but they will be mailing a separate 1099-G to you for it and if you have made above the standard deduction you will be on the hook for paying 10% of that $300 per week on your own. ($30 per week).

If you've done the right thing by yourself and had the 10% taken out for federal as well as the state taxes when you signed up for unemployment, you almost certainly won't have to worry about this since you were already overpaying and you'll just get a smaller tax return.


But I guess that's a whole separate issue onto itself. If you've been claiming all year and not paying any taxes on it at all, you better start saving whatever you can now because you've got a pretty huge tax bill coming your way in 2021 and you're probably going to end up having to pay fines to both the IRS and your state treasury because of how much you owe.


EDIT: I'm SERIOUSLY of the opinion that given the circumstances today and the huge boost in UI that the enhanced benefits gave that nobody should have ever been given the option to forgo having their state and federal taxes withheld for unemployment after April of 2020. Nobody is really talking about this much right now, but just wait until the end of March next year. It will be dominating the news cycle, and a lot of people are going to be freaking out because everybody was given the choice and few million dummies made the wrong one.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 12:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
So... Here's a weird one.

https://archive.vn/rgrIR
Quote:

Wisconsin residents receiving an extra $300 in weekly unemployment benefits are being asked to pay back the money if Congress enacts new legislation to replace the jobless aid created by President Trump's executive action last month.
Ummmmm... Why?

Do they not know how money transfers work in Wisconsin? Or computers even?

And to add... Good luck on that. Seriously. "Pretty please, give us the money back."

At this point, it's unclear how any further stimulus would be handled when Congress enacts it. Nobody knows what the amount will be. Nobody knows what date it would be retroactive to. And actually, until reading this particular article, it seems to have always been assumed that it would be retroactive until the first week of August when the original enhanced benefits ran out.

But the article says this:
Quote:

The (Wisconsin) DWD is anticipating that if Congress passes new legislation, it will begin once Trump's Lost Wages Assistance program lapses for the week ended Sept. 5 so that there would be no overlap, they added.
Why would they anticipate this?

Democrats in Congress wanted the full $600 and some were willing to go down to $400. Republicans wanted $200. Nobody had ever mentioned $300 before Trump signed the executive order. I doubt very much if the extension ends up being less than $300 that they will retro it back to the beginning of August, but if it's $400 to $600 it is very likely that they will.

I would also assume that the money should probably be put back into the FEMA fund where it belongs as well.

So why ask the people to pay the money back? They've got computers. Just add up the amount of money paid through FEMA to each recipient, then deduct that from the lump-sum that is going to be retroactive, and then take that deducted amount from the "CARES ACT II" or whatever they're going to call it and send it back to FEMA. As long as the amount retroactively paid out is $300 or more, this shouldn't even be a thing that anybody has to think about besides the administrators of state UI websites.

Why on earth would you consider paying the full $400-$600 retroactive after you've already given them $300 from the FEMA and then try and make the claim that the recipients are double dipping?

They didn't do anything wrong. YOU PAID THEM TWICE.

You've literally got all the power and leverage here. Once YOU pay somebody twice you've given all of that away.

Figure it out, Wisconsin. WTF.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It is because the last election Libtards stole the race, getting Libtard Dem Skeletor Evers in the mansion.
That is also why they have not released these PAU finds since March 15. So those who have qualified for these Federal Funds have been required to exist WITHOUT ANY MONEY for 6 months.

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Saturday, September 12, 2020 1:45 PM

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Wisconsin hasn't even paid out the FPUC? ($600 enhanced)

Do you have a link for that? I can't believe that's not a national news story if they've been holding on to all of that money for all of these months.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Trump wants GOP Senate to change their unemployment bill to match the much higher number Pelosi wants:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Democrats are “heartless”. They don’t want to give STIMULUS PAYMENTS to people who desperately need the money, and whose fault it was NOT that the plague came in from China. Go for the much higher numbers, Republicans, it all comes back to the USA anyway (one way or another!).
9:30 AM · Sep 16, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1306239033891315713

Trump calls for stimulus payments and massive economic relief bill, upending Republicans’ more limited approach

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Wednesday called on congressional Republicans to support a massive economic relief bill with “much higher numbers” and stimulus payments for Americans, abruptly proposing an entirely different plan than what the Senate GOP sought to advance in recent days.

Democratic leaders immediately seized on Trump’s new position and suggested it validated their position.

“We are encouraged that after months of the Senate Republicans insisting on shortchanging the massive needs of the American people, President Trump is now calling on Republicans to ‘go for the much higher numbers’ in the next corona-virus relief package,” Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said in a statement. “We look forward to hearing from the president’s negotiators that they will finally meet us halfway with a bill that is equal to the massive health and economic crises gripping our nation.”

In his Twitter post on Wednesday, Trump mischaracterized Democrats’ position by saying they were “heartless” for not wanting “to give STIMULUS PAYMENTS to people who desperately need the money, and whose fault it was NOT that the plague came in from China. Go for the much higher numbers, Republicans, it all comes back to the USA anyway (one way or another!).”

Democrats had, in fact, supported these additional stimulus payments.

www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/16/trump-stimulus-payment-econ
omic-relief
/

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Thursday, September 17, 2020 1:16 PM

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The relief hasn't passed because the Democrats want another 1.5 Trillion for their Communist pet projects and to bail out big cities that have been letting your alternate personality burn everything down.

He's telling Republicans to give the full $600/wk unemployment and put the stimulus checks back in the bill, but to leave everything else out of it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, September 17, 2020 2:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Trump wants GOP Senate to change their unemployment bill to match the much higher number Pelosi wants:


Trump calls for stimulus payments and massive economic relief bill, upending Republicans’ more limited approach


Democrats had, in fact, supported these additional stimulus payments.

www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/09/16/trump-stimulus-payment-econ
omic-relief
/

Summary of details, largely from that linked story:
Cares Act in March, $2 T + including less than 700B in Stimulus and Aid, and the rest in Democrap Pork.
Dem proposal in May, $3T, including $1T in Democrap-run shithole Bailout Funds and another 1.5T in Democrap Pork.
GOP proposal in July, $1T including $1200 Stimulus checks.
GOP proposal last week, $300B without Stimulus checks.
Compromise plan, $1.5T including $500B of Democrat-run shithole Bailout Funds. Also includes further UI payments of UP TO $600/wk, but NOT TO EXCEED 100% of their previous wages.

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Saturday, September 19, 2020 1:04 PM

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I must point out that I misstated: I did men the FPUC was being withheld, not the PUA as I stated. AFAIK, the PUA is not being withheld, only the FPUC.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wisconsin hasn't even paid out the FPUC? ($600 enhanced)

Do you have a link for that? I can't believe that's not a national news story if they've been holding on to all of that money for all of these months.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Hmmm. Ultra-Libtard Gov Skeletor Evers appoints failed Ultra-Libtard carpetbagger from Minn, then Locks Down WI Economy in support of Democrap efforts to make Trump look bad before Election, then withholds Trump-passed Pandemic funds so that honest Americans will be further punished.
Now which Libtard Fake News outlet are you thinking is going to report that?

I know a woman, with 2 or 3 kids, who filed her claims first week of April. They finally released her funds in the final days of July.
I know of a claim which was started in the first week of May, and still has not been touched by their red tape process. That is about $400 of UIB and $600 of FPUC per week that Evers is withholding, for however many weeks that is. Sounds like almost $20,000 - but at least $10,000 just until end of July. None of it paid out.
BUT WI HAS ACCEPTED ALL OF THESE FEDERAL FUNDS INTO THEIR COFFERS.


https://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2020/09/wisconsin-covid-19-update-9-18-
20
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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I must point out that I misstated: I did men the FPUC was being withheld, not the PUA as I stated. AFAIK, the PUA is not being withheld, only the FPUC.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Wisconsin hasn't even paid out the FPUC? ($600 enhanced)

Do you have a link for that? I can't believe that's not a national news story if they've been holding on to all of that money for all of these months.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Hmmm. Ultra-Libtard Gov Skeletor Evers appoints failed Ultra-Libtard carpetbagger from Minn, then Locks Down WI Economy in support of Democrap efforts to make Trump look bad before Election, then withholds Trump-passed Pandemic funds so that honest Americans will be further punished.
Now which Libtard Fake News outlet are you thinking is going to report that?

I know a woman, with 2 or 3 kids, who filed her claims first week of April. They finally released her funds in the final days of July.
I know of a claim which was started in the first week of May, and still has not been touched by their red tape process. That is about $400 of UIB and $600 of FPUC per week that Evers is withholding, for however many weeks that is. Sounds like almost $20,000 - but at least $10,000 just until end of July. None of it paid out.
BUT WI HAS ACCEPTED ALL OF THESE FEDERAL FUNDS INTO THEIR COFFERS.


https://www.wisconsinwatch.org/2020/09/wisconsin-covid-19-update-9-18-
20
/

Well, some of the linkies I had posted with that post did not seem to stick.
Here is one:
https://dwd.wisconsin.gov/news/2020/pdf/200914-ui-data.pdf

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Fed chair Jerome Powell is saying that Congress needs to pass a huge spending and relief bill. It would help the recovery and make life better for millions of people. There’s a stimulus bill all ready to go, but Republicans are stalling. Powell is trying to tell them not to worry just pass the damn thing. So far, it’s not working:

Those pushing hard for a bill include the White House and Nancy Pelosi. Mr. Trump tweeted from the hospital on Saturday that the country “wants and needs” more stimulus. For Mr. Trump, a deal would serve as a sign of his authority, taking attention away from his health and unfavorable polls.

Everyone Wants More Spending Except Mitch McConnell.

www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/10/everyone-wants-more-spending-ex
cept-mitch-mcconnell
/

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:42 PM

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They're not going to pass her bullshit bill.

Both sides need to stop ignoring that middle of the road proposal and push that through.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 4:00 PM

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... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They're not going to pass her bullshit bill.

Both sides need to stop ignoring that middle of the road proposal and push that through.



Trump decides to commit election suicide.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/06/politics/trump-ends-stimulus-talks/inde
x.html


Trump calls for stimulus negotiations to stop until after Election Day

(CNN)President Donald Trump has ordered his negotiators to halt talks over a new stimulus package, after the two sides have struggled for months to reach a deal.

"I have instructed my representatives to stop negotiating until after the election when, immediately after I win, we will pass a major Stimulus Bill that focuses on hardworking Americans and Small Business," Trump wrote in a series of tweets Tuesday afternoon.”

I hope he’s high because otherwise he’s lost all of his sh*t. He even called himself, “your leader,” last night - f*cker is high on his COVID cocktail.

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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 4:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Trump decides to commit election suicide.



We'll see.

They've been jacking off for 3 months now. What's one more month?

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1) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:42 PM
They're not going to pass her bullshit bill. Both sides need to stop ignoring that middle of the road proposal and push that through.

2) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 4:14 PM
We'll see. They've been jacking off for 3 months now. What's one more month? (Uh . . . people evicted and starved to death? That could happen in a month.)

What happened to 6ix between 1) and 2) ?

I know the answer: Trump says he’s calling off stimulus negotiations with Democrats ‘until after the election’
www.cnbc.com/2020/10/06/trump-says-hes-calling-off-stimulus-negotiatio
ns-with-democrats-until-after-the-election.html


Why did Trump flip-flop? Early today he was for the Democrats' bill. But he had to be difficult because the Chairman of the Federal Reserve said today that the GOP should stop dithering and say Yes and Nancy Pelosi agreed. If Nancy Pelosi and the Federal Reserve want the same thing, then Trump won't do it because he hates Chairman Jerome Powell and Pelosi. Trump must be still woozy in the head from all the drugs he took in the hospital. He is not exactly thinking clearly.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/feds-powell-says-u-s-faces-tragic-risks-f
rom-doing-too-little-to-support-economy-11601995201



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Trump abruptly ends coronavirus stimulus bill negotiations


Nobody In Trump’s White House Has A Care For Human Life



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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:14 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
1) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:42 PM
They're not going to pass her bullshit bill. Both sides need to stop ignoring that middle of the road proposal and push that through.

2) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 4:14 PM
We'll see. They've been jacking off for 3 months now. What's one more month? (Uh . . . people evicted and starved to death? That could happen in a month.)

What happened to 6ix between 1) and 2) ?



Nothing. I already said they aren't going to pass Nancy's fucked up bill. She knew that going into it.

I'm not worried where my meals are coming from 2 years from now let alone during the next month.

We'll see who gets the blame. Trump's name was on the only unemployment relief that anybody's seen since the end of July.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
1) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:42 PM
They're not going to pass her bullshit bill. Both sides need to stop ignoring that middle of the road proposal and push that through.

2) 6IXSTRINGJACK says Tuesday, October 6, 2020 4:14 PM
We'll see. They've been jacking off for 3 months now. What's one more month? (Uh . . . people evicted and starved to death? That could happen in a month.)

What happened to 6ix between 1) and 2) ?



Nothing. I already said they aren't going to pass Nancy's fucked up bill. She knew that going into it.

I'm not worried where my meals are coming from 2 years from now let alone during the next month.

We'll see who gets the blame. Trump's name was on the only unemployment relief that anybody's seen since the end of July.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Let me quote you, 6ix, from last month: "Just wait until a few million people have something legitimate to start burning shit down over when the banks take their houses and their kids start starving because COVID Karens destroyed their lives and rich politicians couldn't stop politicking."

On one hand, Pelosi wants to give the starving millions about $2.2 trillion. On the other hand, Trump wants to give them $0.00. I think they will burn down Trump's properties.

Trump offers nothing. Remember, he is refusing to negotiate until after Nov 3rd.

Pelosi offers:

Reinstate the $600 per week enhanced unemployment benefit through January

Send a second $1,200 direct payment to most Americans

Give $436 billion in relief over one year to state and local governments

Authorize more money for a second round of Paycheck Protection Program loans for the hardest-hit businesses and industries

Send $25 billion to airlines to cover payroll costs

Inject $75 billion into Covid-19 testing and contact tracing efforts

Put $225 billion into education and $57 billion into child care

Set aside billions for rental and mortgage assistance

www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/coronavirus-stimulus-update-house-passes-democ
ratic-relief-bill.html


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Tuesday, October 6, 2020 10:33 PM

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They had plenty of time to act.

If shit starts burning down it's the Democrat's fault.

Fucking cancer on our nation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They had plenty of time to act.

If shit starts burning down it's the Democrat's fault.

Fucking cancer on our nation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

$2.2 trillion is what Pelosi offered this month. On May 15th, Pelosi offered $3 trillion. That $3 trillion bill passed the House, same as the October $2.2 billion bill, but the Senate refused to even vote on it.

Again, Trump was offering $0.00 while Pelosi was offering $3 trillion. Trump deserves to have all his properties burned down for offering nothing since May.

www.cnbc.com/2020/05/15/house-aims-to-pass-a-3-trillion-coronavirus-re
lief-package-friday.html


The Heroes Act text:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6800/text
Trump didn't read it in May before counter-offering $0.00.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They had plenty of time to act.

If shit starts burning down it's the Democrat's fault.

Fucking cancer on our nation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Trump said there would be no negotiations until after the election. Imagine being president of the united states. Now imagine that you're so whacked out on a cocktail of drugs both illicit and prescribed that you no longer have any idea which end is up. Now imagine that it's 10:21 in the evening and you're alone with Fox News and your phone. It is not hard to imagine Trump is already starting to "negotiate":

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313664886648582144
and
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313658825040371712

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Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:15 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
They had plenty of time to act.

If shit starts burning down it's the Democrat's fault.

Fucking cancer on our nation.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

$2.2 trillion is what Pelosi offered this month. On May 15th, Pelosi offered $3 trillion. That $3 trillion bill passed the House, same as the October $2.2 billion bill, but the Senate refused to even vote on it.

Again, Trump was offering $0.00 while Pelosi was offering $3 trillion. Trump deserves to have all his properties burned down for offering



Don't conflate Trump with Congress.

Nancy isn't ACTUALLY offering shit, because she knows full well that the proposals she is putting forth will not pass. She is posturing.

It's the exact same fucking thing that Mitch did when they put the "skinny" bill out that he knew full well wasn't going to pass either.


THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S OFFERED ANYTHING IS TRUMP.

In the limited powers granted to him, he passed some executive orders (which I'm never a fan of), that were certainly not some great fix-all and were overhyped by his administration after the fact, but they were at least something.

They equated to a roughly $1,800 stimulus for unemployed workers only and no interest on student loans through the end of the year. Though one is expired and the other will eventually, these were both huge.

There are claims that his order on evictions hasn't helped anybody, but as of this date I don't see people being kicked out into the streets like they were in the housing market crash... at least not yet. And though I'll shed no tears for mega-property-owners and the struggles they may have when they can't make people homeless for not having any money to pay rent, this will eventually ruin a lot of pretty normal people who own a house or two that they're renting out when the banks foreclose on them because their renters aren't paying rent. I don't see a good answer to this one at all.

And the payroll tax deferral order, admittedly, doesn't make any sense to me. It's temporary. It's confusing. It caused and continues to cause a lot of chaos for payroll departments and 3rd party companies. And it is only being deferred, so there are going to be a lot of dummies out there that don't even realize that they still owe money next year.


These orders, on the whole, were far from perfect. Like I said, the first two were great though. That was exclusively Trump who made them happen, because Congress isn't doing its job. Every time they start talking about doing it again a Covid spike occurs, or a Ginsberg dies or a President goes to the hospital.



I think this is a tactic on his administrations' part.

It honestly sounds exactly like what the Democrats are saying about replacing Ginsberg this close to the election.



Do your fucking job, Congress. Shut the fuck up. Pass a bill. Replace the judge.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Don't conflate Trump with Congress.

Nancy isn't ACTUALLY offering shit, because she knows full well that the proposals she is putting forth will not pass. She is posturing.

It is clear you (and nearly every American, including Trump) do not understand the concept of a President negotiating with Congress. Should I explain it? Not gonna try, mostly because the lower 99% of Americans seem to have brains that have been trained to fail at all kinds of serious negotiations. It is why there are endless conflicts that never get resolved . . .

But I will point out that Trump's position is he wants Pelosi to give him free money with no strings attached so he can play Santa Claus just before the election while Pelosi has more complex goals stretching years into the future, goals which just so happen to be written down on paper in the form of several different 1,000 page long bills actually passed by the House of Representatives. Those bills are NOT empty tweets, soon to be forgotten. Too bad Trump didn't read or can't understand any bills.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Trump won the primaries four years ago partly because he wasn’t the sort of Republican who’d try to starve federal programs in the name of fiscal responsibility. President Ted Cruz might slash your Medicare but President Donald Trump didn’t even pretend to care about shrinking government. The fact that Trump is trying to lowball Pelosi on financial aid to voters in dire need of it 28 days from an election, in the middle of a pandemic, is an invasion-of-the-body-snatchers moment — as if Cruz and the Republican establishment had secretly replaced him with an impostor.

A conservative pundit was asked what he thought Trump was doing on this issue. He replied, “losing.”

Trump’s stimulus obstruction excites fiscal conservatives — and no one else.
www.vox.com/21504864/trump-stimulus-populists-conservatism-fiscal-moor
e-laffer


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Wednesday, October 7, 2020 8:21 PM

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There was a reasonable middle of the road plan that was created. Months ago, actually.

If both sides of the aisle weren't jacking off, it should have gotten passed back in August.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 3:48 PM

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Democraps still working feverishly to screw over America.

Trump has been trying to pass a relief Bill for $1.6 Trillion.
Self-Annointed President of Congress Nancy has been holding America hostage, demanding that another $2.4 T of Democrap-run shithole bailout Pork be added to any bill.

Plus, she also demands that all of the election Laws be changed (included in her Bill) to copy the Laws of CA to the entire US. There will never be another honest election in America if that happens.

Sounds like Trump commented on this on social media, but tweeter and Fakebook deleted his posts.

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Democraps still working feverishly to screw over America.

Trump has been trying to pass a relief Bill for $1.6 Trillion.
Self-Annointed President of Congress Nancy has been holding America hostage, demanding that another $2.4 T of Democrap-run shithole bailout Pork be added to any bill.

Plus, she also demands that all of the election Laws be changed (included in her Bill) to copy the Laws of CA to the entire US. There will never be another honest election in America if that happens.

Sounds like Trump commented on this on social media, but tweeter and Fakebook deleted his posts.

And Fed Chairman Jerome Powell is demanding that we get this additional $2.4T in Pork. This asshat needs to be drained from the swamp.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:16 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


As I've been perusing some of these shithole websites, I see that most of the Federal Funds given to these shithole cities has been diverted to solely black owned businesses and that Majority-minority, the women-owned businesses. Not the Anchor businesses which are essential for retention and revitalization of shithole cities. So why bother taking money from hard-working Americans to throw down the shithole toilets?

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:37 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
There was a reasonable middle of the road plan that was created. Months ago, actually.

If both sides of the aisle weren't jacking off, it should have gotten passed back in August.

The Senate or the House assigns a number to all bills, even the ones that don't pass. What bill are you talking about? Here is a bill that became law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748
And a bill not yet law: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8406/text

Nancy Pelosi on Thursday said there would be NO additional federal aid for U.S. airlines without a more comprehensive COVID-19 relief package, adding that she was hopeful for a larger deal “because it has to be done.” Meanwhile, Trump is panicking, running in circles, screaming his head off.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-pelosi/pelos
i-rejects-airline-aid-without-larger-covid-19-u-s-stimulus-bill-idUSKBN26T2UH


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:41 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
As I've been perusing some of these shithole websites, I see that most of the Federal Funds given to these shithole cities has been diverted to solely black owned businesses and that Majority-minority, the women-owned businesses. Not the Anchor businesses which are essential for retention and revitalization of shithole cities. So why bother taking money from hard-working Americans to throw down the shithole toilets?

Negotiations over relief have been stalled for months, even as special aid to the unemployed and small businesses has expired. The main stumbling block has been the adamant refusal of Senate Republicans to consider aid to state and local governments, even though it would have helped Trump politically.

But Republicans have insisted — falsely — that this is all about rescuing badly run blue states. And Trump echoed that falsehood as he pulled the plug on Tuesday, claiming that Pelosi’s proposals are nothing but a bailout of “high crime, poorly run, Democrat States.” (Not that facts matter, but Democratic states actually have lower crime rates, on average, than Republican states.)

The question is, why did Trump choose to reject even the possibility of a deal less than a month before Election Day? True, it’s too late for legislation to make much difference to the state of the economy on Nov. 3, although a deal might have averted some corporate layoffs. But it would surely be in Trump’s political interest to at least look as if he’s trying to help Americans in distress. Why would Trump choose this, of all moments, to torpedo economic policy?

As far as I can tell, nobody has offered a plausible political motive, any way in which refusing even to try rescuing the economy helps Trump’s prospects. What this looks like, instead, is vindictiveness.

The thing is, if he’s behaving like this now, when he still has some chance of winning, how will he act if he loses?

More at www.nytimes.com/2020/10/08/opinion/donald-trump-economy.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 8:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

But Republicans have insisted — falsely — that this is all about rescuing badly run blue states.



If it is true that Republican claims are false, then just pass an unemployment bill with zero other riders attached to it.

Trump did that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

But Republicans have insisted — falsely — that this is all about rescuing badly run blue states.



If it is true that Republican claims are false, then just pass an unemployment bill with zero other riders attached to it.

Trump did that.

What is that bill's number? Pelosi actually has a real bill. Where is the Senate's alternative bill?
Pelosi's H.R.8406 - The Heroes Act https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/8406/text

I'll tell you a little secret: Pelosi knows that the Senate Republicans will refuse to pass after the election any bills that benefit President Biden. If Trump wants a bill to benefit his reelection right now, he and the GOP have to go along with hypothetically helping Biden govern in February. If Trump wins the election, he is really only helping himself govern in February. If Trump wants to make his second term easy, he should tell the GOP Senators to vote for H.R.8406 - The Heroes Act. That way Trump wins the election and wins again in February. But if Trump doesn't think he will win, he should immediately start wrecking the country and make it impossible for Biden to govern in 2021. That makes it more likely Biden would be a one term President.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 9, 2020 10:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The Heroes bill isn't a real bill.

I just said that they should pass a bill that specifically addresses supporting the unemployed in the country without ANY other bullshit in it. Which even includes the $1,200 stimulus checks for everyone.

Neither side is willing to do that.


Trump is the only one who has assisted the unemployed since the beginning of August by signing the executive order that redirected FEMA funds to gave most unemployed citizens a $1,800 stimulus over 6 weeks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, October 9, 2020 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The Heroes bill isn't a real bill.

I just said that they should pass a bill that specifically addresses supporting the unemployed in the country without ANY other bullshit in it. Which even includes the $1,200 stimulus checks for everyone.

Neither side is willing to do that.


Trump is the only one who did, by signing the executive order that essentially gave most unemployed citizens a $1,800 stimulus over 6 weeks.

That executive order had only $44 billion to fund it, which was quickly spent. What will Trump be doing in October, November, December and January? Nothing. He has no money. He could get more by supporting Pelosi's H.R.8406 - The Heroes Act. I don't think he will. Instead, Trump will vindictively burn down America to spite President Biden.
www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/unemployed-left-with-little-recourse-a
fter-trump-jobless-aid-expires


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