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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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Obama wasn't the progressive he pretended to be. Few Democrats are progressive.

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We agree.

The facts are: democrats did nothing for the average worker during the Obama presidency; Hillary and the DNC were all about identity politics as long as you had the right identity; Pelosi as the single most visible representative of democrats in the last 4 years has made the democrats all about being anti-Donald; and the party platform of today is meaningless happy-talk without a commitment to identify and solve the causes of the average American's economic malady.

Democrats can't even pay decent lip service to ordinary Americans and their economic misfortunes.

No amount of Trump-demonizing is going to change the perception that democrats can't even pretend to address our economy that's failed everyday Americans.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Florida USPS Mail Sorting Machines Dismantled Ahead of Record Election For Mail Ballots
https://www.newsweek.com/florida-usps-mail-sorting-machines-dismantled
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Golly, a pile of useless linkys there (above). But I did find the much ballyhooed USPS document:

https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf

Background: USPS automation machines sort 3 types of mail: Letter Mail, Flats (manilla envelopes, sealed magazines, other packages greater than 8.5" x 11" but not thicker than an inch), and packages.
Letter mail has slowed since 9-11, and so has Flats. While package mail has grown in volume, and is highly competitive, and sought after by competitors - and USPS has had a habit of processing them at a loss of revenue - for decades.


It mentions 4 types of machines. AFCSs, which are actually AFCS-ISS machines, operated by Mail Handlers and Operate at peak efficiency at about 30,000/hr. They can crank their figures up to 34K, but anything over 30k is purely errors. There have not been any base model AFCSs in USPS in more than 10 years.
AFCS-ISS machines process letter mail only. Flats are culled out in the 2nd culling stage. Packages cannot fit in the machine, and if they enter the machine, are culled at the first point (if the machine didn't jam from them). By 2010 there were about 2,000 of these machines. For instance, in WI there were 8 in Milwaukee, 6 in Madison, 2 each in Green Bay, Eau Claire, LaCrosse, Wausau, Oshkosh, and 1 in Kingsford. Obama reduced those 8 sites down to 2 for the whole state, and those 25 machines down to about 14 remaining, because he eliminated the Mandate of Next Day Delivery.

The other 3 types of machines mentioned are operated by Clerks, members of the APWU.

DBCSs process solely Letter Mail, at a speed up to 43,000 for the older machines, but about 35-38,000 for the "new & better" versions. The older units often don't run at capacity because the Unionized Postal Workers are too lazy to do the work to allow the machines to function properly.
By 2010, there were about 10,000 DBCSs in USPS - not including several thousand DIOSS, a higher-functioning upgrade to the base DBCS (unlikely that any DIOSSs are being thrown out, nor any DBCS-OSSs.)
Milwaukee had 28, GB had 10.

One of these stories mentions that the 671 machines are about 10% of the current stable - meaning Obama has already cut them down to around 6,700 machines before Trump ever populated the White House.

The next 2 machines are humungus, and not very populous due to the smaller footprint desired by USPS facilities. Sites in WI could barely fit one inside, and often not that.
AFSMs and FSS process Flats mail. They are much, much slower than the letter machines. The flats are "injected" into the carousel at a rate of about 4-7 per second. IIRC 120 per minute was the fastest rate we got out if them, and that was cooking (there are mechanical limitations).

That USPS spokesman said that they were reallocating due to demand, and for years now they have been pointing out that Letters and Flats have been in decline, and now they are switching operations over to focus on package mail.

When time, I need to check the annual mail volume from 2001, and 2010, and 2016, and now. They usually report that stuff every year, along with the total number of unique addresses in the U.S.



https://naps.org/files/galleries/Notice_of_reduction_of_AFCS,_DBCS,_AF
SM100_and_FSS_Dean_06_23_20-0001.pdf

This story mentions that 5 out of 20 DBCSs were removed, again in line with current trends, and a minor fraction of the machines that Obamination get rid of. But the largest Union in the world, APWU, needs to whine about something because their overtime is gone, thanks to Obama eliminating the Mandate of Next Day Delivery about 8-10 years ago.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-m
ail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html
This story accidentally leaves in some factual statements - which deflate the Libtard narrative.

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The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy as postmaster general in early summer.

Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

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This is merely repeating the same warnings that have been in effect since Obama ended the Next Day Delivery Mandate, however Libtard Election Officials and Clerks have refused to update their information to the public (voter) after not needing to change it since...FOREVER! (before Obama)

This outlet should be castigated, tarred and feathered by the rest of Fake News, for inadvertently including factual statements in their story. Ashamed, they should be.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/320234/mail-volume-of-the-usps/
This site shows total Mail Volume has gone from 213.1 Billion in 2006 to 142.6 billion in 2019. That is including packages.


https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/first-class-mail-sinc
e-1926.htm
This site shows that First Class Mail Volumes went from 103,656 Million in 2001 to 77,592 million in 2010, and 54,943 in 2019.
One can see the big shift in type of mail from 1st Class to other types, like package - which is what the USPS has been saying for YEARS.

With Mail Volume at about half of wht it used to be, why should USPS keep the same number of machines? Is removal of only 10% of them really such a horror?
And in 2019 the non-First Class Mail was about 90 billion pieces, where it was 115 billion in 2006.

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I realized that I did not fully explain some key differences which Obamination put in place.

With the Next Day Delivery Mandate:
Most normal Post Offices (Associate Offices) collected their mail during the day, and the truck picked up their mail around 5pm or later, to travel to the Processing & Distribution Center for their SCF (3-digit ZIP) and get cancelled by about 9pm each night. This meant there needed to be enough AFCSs to process all of the mail within about the timeframe 4pm-9pm. On Mondays an AFCS woiuld have acxtual Run Time of about 4 hours. Tues-Fri were about 3 Hours, and Sat was about 2 hours, even though it was spread out over more hours. Each day Preventative Maintenance needed to be performed on each AFCS, about 2-4 hours each day. This amounted to a weekly total of 18 hours of Run, 16 hours of PM, and 134 hours unused. Each of these machines garnered a bid job for the most senior of Mailhandlers, like with 30+ years of seniority.
With Obama deleting the Mandate, an AFCS can now run for about 140 hours and have about 30 hours of PM, thus performing the work of about 8 AFCSs when the Mandate continued to exist (that Mandate had always existed).
So now USPS needs 1/8 of the number of AFCSs to perform the same work, not including the fact that there is a fraction of that amount of work (mail volume) now.

Similar for the DBCSs. 12 hours of Run, about 2 hours of PM per day, making weekly totals of 84 hours of Run, 16 for PM, and 68 hours unused. After Mandate cancelled, 144 hours of Run and 24 hours of PM per week. This means now 2 DBCSs can do more than the volume per week that 3 used to do, not including the fact that there is now less total volume as before.

Also, the AFCSs ran on evening shift, and DBCSs ran both on evening and graveyard shift, and the Unions had generous Overtime and Shift Premium pays for non-daytime hours (so that is now reduced), and the most mail needed to be processed on Sundays, when there was a 25% pay premium - and now they can just shift Sunday work to any other day of the week.
All of this thanks to Obama, screwing the Unionized Postal Worker.

The AFSMs were just a complete hog of PM labor, like 6-10 hours each day, and they ran all of the time they were not in Maintenance Schedule.

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Originally posted by reaverbot:
Fox & Friends’ Will Cain attacks the United States Postal Service: “The postal service is not an efficient nor honestly a good service”
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-friends/fox-friends-will-cain-attacks
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He needs to stick to sports. He doesn't know jack about anything else.

The US Post Office is legendary for their efficiency. It is my preferred service, by far. It provides better service than UPS or FedEx.

Further, the post office is a necessary service. It is the ONLY service that guarantees mail delivery to everyone in the country. As to letter mail, it is one price to anywhere in the States.

The Republicans have been trying for years to destroy the post office, even though it is one of the few agencies mentioned in the constitution explicitly. Somebody tell the cabinet officers that most of their positions are not mentioned in the constitution, but the Postmaster General is.

The federal highways that crisscross the country are Post Roads. To the founding fathers the post office was exceedingly important. It still is.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Adding to the neverending list of lies from reaverbot.

THE POST OFFICE was not created by the Constitution. The Constitution authorized that A Post Office (of some sort) could be created by Congress. The Post Office Department from before 1970 was different than the United States Postal Service (after 1970).

The Postmaster General is not mentioned in The Constitution, but was created by Congress at least a year later. The PMG is not a member of the Cabinet, at least not since 1970.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
In Appleton WI the past couple weeks, 3 trays of mail were found in a ditch near the Appelton Airport, and they "included Mail-In ballots"

This area is not downtown, chock full of Libtards. This would be the area where honest hard-working folk would vote from, so they were likely Trump votes discarded by the Unionized Letter Carriers.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Union postal worker dumped mail, including ballots, in multiple dumpsters.


https://www.independentsentinel.com/mail-carrier-arrested-after-random
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Union postal worker dumped mail, including ballots, in multiple dumpsters.


https://www.independentsentinel.com/mail-carrier-arrested-after-random
-man-finds-dumped-ballots-other-mail/ Republican tossing out ballots from a largely Democratic area.

Trumptarded. Throw the book at him.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/early-voting-data-in-battlegro
und-states-shows-trump-outpacing-national-polls-giving-biden-an-edge

Trump doing well in early voting in Battleground States.

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Postal Service says it will reverse all changes it has made, prioritize election mail
https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2020/10/postal-service-says-it-will-
reverse-all-changes-it-has-made-prioritize-election-mail.html

HELENA, Mont. — The U.S. Postal Service agreed Wednesday to reverse changes that slowed mail service nationwide, settling a lawsuit filed by Montana Gov. Steve Bullock during a pandemic that is expected to force many more people to vote by mail.

The lawsuit filed against Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and the U.S. Postal Service on Sept. 9 argued changes implemented in June harmed access to mail services in Montana, resulting in delayed delivery of medical prescriptions, payments, and job applications, and impeding the ability of Montana residents to vote by mail.

The postal service agreed to reverse all changes, which included reduced retail hours, removal of collection boxes and mail sorting machines, closure or consolidation of mail processing facilities, restriction of late or extra trips for timely mail delivery, and banning or restricting overtime.

The agreement also requires the Postal Service to prioritize election mail.

The settlement agreement was reached a day ahead of a hearing in the U.S. District Court in Great Falls. It applies to all states.
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It took a lawsuit, but DeJoy has to do the right thing, now.

Still no explanation why he did that shit in the first place, but it should be obvious...

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Late last month, Thomas J. Marshall, the post office's general counsel and executive vice president, sent states a letter warning that many of them have deadlines too tight to meet in this new world of slower mail.

Pennsylvania, for example, allows voters to request a mail ballot by Oct. 27. Marshall warned that voters there should put already completed ballots in the mail by that date to ensure they arrive by Nov. 3.

This has been a potential problem since the Obama administration, when the post office relaxed standards for when mail had to arrive.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Postal Service says it will reverse all changes it has made, prioritize election mail
https://www.oregonlive.com/nation/2020/10/postal-service-says-it-will-
reverse-all-changes-it-has-made-prioritize-election-mail.html

HELENA, Mont. — The U.S. Postal Service agreed Wednesday to reverse changes that slowed mail service nationwide, settling a lawsuit filed by Montana Gov. Steve Bullock during a pandemic that is expected to force many more people to vote by mail.

The lawsuit filed against Postmaster General Louis DeJoy and the U.S. Postal Service on Sept. 9 argued changes implemented in June harmed access to mail services in Montana, resulting in delayed delivery of medical prescriptions, payments, and job applications, and impeding the ability of Montana residents to vote by mail.

The postal service agreed to reverse all changes, which included reduced retail hours, removal of collection boxes and mail sorting machines, closure or consolidation of mail processing facilities, restriction of late or extra trips for timely mail delivery, and banning or restricting overtime.

The agreement also requires the Postal Service to prioritize election mail.

The settlement agreement was reached a day ahead of a hearing in the U.S. District Court in Great Falls. It applies to all states.
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It took a lawsuit, but DeJoy has to do the right thing, now.

Still no explanation why he did that shit in the first place, but it should be obvious...

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The Bot accidentally posted a link to his fake story which included a link to a story which accidentally included some actual facts on the topic:

https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/08/whats-happening-at-the-us-postal
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Late last month, Thomas J. Marshall, the post office's general counsel and executive vice president, sent states a letter warning that many of them have deadlines too tight to meet in this new world of slower mail.

Pennsylvania, for example, allows voters to request a mail ballot by Oct. 27. Marshall warned that voters there should put already completed ballots in the mail by that date to ensure they arrive by Nov. 3.

This has been a potential problem since the Obama administration, when the post office relaxed standards for when mail had to arrive.

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Golly, who has already been explaining these facts all along here?

With Bot's nil reading comprehension, that is why he/she cannot comprehend facts of the real world.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You're just mad I kicked your ass and made a complete fool of you in 3 different threads in the last 2 days, and you're trying and failing to salvage a tiny shred of dignity.

I destroy you. Every. Single. Time. That's because you're a: stupid, and b: a liar who's easily debunked with facts and logic.

You are my moral and intellectual inferior, and can never rise to my level.

As a native speaker and teacher of English, my comprehension is far and away better than yours, Russian troll. You've never even been here.

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