Ruh Roh... Biden Behind in Top Battleground States Compared to Clinton by 6IXSTRINGJACK

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Ruh Roh... Biden Behind in Top Battleground States Compared to Clinton

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Wednesday, August 26, 2020 10:28 PM

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Despite everything you goons have tried to throw at him, Trump is still doing better than he was in 2016 before he blew Hillary out of the water.

On August 26th, Clinton was "up" 4.8, and Biden's "up" only 3.7

And the first elder abuse debate hasn't even started.

You hear that?

That's the screams of 10 million crying snowflakes in the wee morning hours of November 4th.

Do try not to burn down all the black owned businesses in the black neighborhoods this time, mkay?

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:14 PM

That poll is racist

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 5:24 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Back then in 2016 it was fairly widely admitted that the polls 'oversampled' democrats by a large amount - and then (soto voce) failed to correct for that.

I don't know about today's polls. I haven't heard anything about the quality.

I can imagine WHY one might want to 'oversample' a minority group, btw, and that's to get significant numbers that'll be statistically more reliable. If you oversample to get a better representation of the 'central tendency' and THEN correct your poll for the oversampling I think you'd end up with a more reliable poll.

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:14 PM

I would assume at this point that most sane people know that the polls are bullshit and in no way reflect reality, so nobody's bothered even bitching about the methodology.

The only one I looked into was the Ipsos/ABC News bullshit poll that Ted posted about a week ago that had an extremely small sample size and purported to be about the DNC, yet 90% of the people polled didn't even watch it, 31% of the people polled watched zero news coverage on it, and although they admitted to oversampling blacks and latinos they provided zero numbers at all on their methodology other than the total number of people polled, making it essentially impossible to even figure out their methodology without more information. And that was their official PDF document release.

Oh, and...

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Back then in 2016 it was fairly widely admitted that the polls 'oversampled' democrats by a large amount - and then (soto voce) failed to correct for that.

Well good thing they admitted it. I was busy exposing it here quite often in the run-up to the 2016 election. However it was easier to do 4 years ago because they were much more transparent with their methodology statements than they are now. Funny that, huh?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
That poll is racist

Yes. Truth is racist.

But no, not one poll. An aggregate of polls.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, August 28, 2020 8:16 PM

Biden is only up 3.0pts in the Top Battleground States on 8/28.

This means that Trump is 1.8pts higher than he was vs Hillary at the same time.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:36 AM

Biden is only up 2.7 pts in Top Battleground States on August 29th.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Trump is now polling at 2.0 pts better against Biden than he did against Hillary on the same day.

Have a nice day!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:38 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

To be fair, the most Biden was EVER up in the battleground states was 6. It was never a gimme.

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Saturday, August 29, 2020 10:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
To be fair, the most Biden was EVER up in the battleground states was 6. It was never a gimme.

6.3, actually, but very true.

But even at 6.3 I still said that Trump was going to win because the Legacy Media lies and there is zero reason for any of us to believe that the methodology of the polls isn't purposefully skewed as badly as it was in 2016.

Just like the polling for Trump's Approval or the General Election, I think it's all bullshit numbers, but it's important to track the trends, especially when so much external stimulus is happening along side of them.

And on top of that the "Top Battleground States" polling is likely the least accurate of the bunch since in most cases it's not an aggregate and is derived from one poll, or one recent poll and one or a few outdated ones.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 31, 2020 6:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Back then in 2016 it was fairly widely admitted that the polls 'oversampled' democrats by a large amount - and then (soto voce) failed to correct for that.

Yep. 2016.
That was kinda news then, because the same thing had only been done in 1988, 1990, 1992, 1994, 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2014 and all of the in between state Elections before 2016. Nothing novel, but I guess some different people were paying attention in 2016.

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Monday, August 31, 2020 9:38 PM

DEMOCRATS, REJOICE!!!!! *

Finally a number looks good for Biden on August 31st. *

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Trump is now only 0.8+ ahead now in Top Battleground states compared to Hillary on August 31st of 2016.

* Don't anybody pay attention to the fact that Hillary took a 1.2 point hit from August 30th to August 31st though if you don't want to get depressed about this asterisk.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 11:07 AM

DEMOCRATS, REJOICE!!!!! *

September 1st sees Biden making gains for two straight days in a row!!!! *

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Trump is now only 0.6+ ahead now in Top Battleground states compared to Hillary on September 1st of 2016.

* Don't anybody pay attention to the fact that Hillary took a 1.2 point hit from August 30th to August 31st, and another 0.2 point hit from August 31st to September 1st though if you don't want to get depressed about this asterisk.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:09 PM

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/national/

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 3:35 PM

This is a thread about Top Battleground States, and how they compare to 2016, idiot.

Not the meaningless General Election polls.

And certainly not by the hugely biased 538 aggregate which includes tons of polls that, by their own admission, are very lowly ranked when it comes to accuracy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 4:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is a thread about Top Battleground States, and how they compare to 2016, idiot.

Not the meaningless General Election polls.

And certainly not by the hugely biased 538 aggregate which includes tons of polls that, by their own admission, are very lowly ranked when it comes to accuracy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

You seem confused.

Shouldn't the only polls looked at be the ones which are always the most wrong? That's what the Fake News always does - that way the greatest shocking figures are the most riveting and commercially saleable. Right?

Orare you trying to explain that you have enough deoderant, insurance, LGBTQRSTUV virtue signals, and AIDS Drugs?

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Tuesday, September 1, 2020 8:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
DEMOCRATS, REJOICE!!!!! *

September 1st sees Biden making gains for two straight days in a row!!!! *

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Trump is now only 0.6+ ahead now in Top Battleground states compared to Hillary on September 1st of 2016.

* Don't anybody pay attention to the fact that Hillary took a 1.2 point hit from August 30th to August 31st, and another 0.2 point hit from August 31st to September 1st though if you don't want to get depressed about this asterisk.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

This post was premature. Biden went down himself 0.1 today, eating away half of the ground he gained today just from Hillary Clinton being terrible.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 2, 2020 4:07 PM

Have you checked the new polls for GA, NC (East Carolina U), PA, and OH?

And I don't believe Obiden went down on himself, even if he says so.

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Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:05 PM

Obiden seems to be getting demolished.

Good thing Libtards are demanding that he never concede, until they have enough weeks to fabricate enough ballots to steal the election, defrauding and disenfranchising America (which is the enemy of Democrats).

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:35 PM

Just heard on News. In WI, Obiden has 47% and Trump 43%. This is within the 4.3% Margin of Error for the poll.
WI did go to Trump in 2016, after being Libtard for decades.

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Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:46 PM

At this point the polls are just sheer 2020 Democrat wet dream fodder and completely separate from reality.

This isn't even a close race.

I'm half of the mind that the Trump campaign itself is behind his low polling numbers just so nobody gets complacent and decides they have something better to do on election day.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 15, 2020 6:00 PM

Sounds like Obiden in trouble in PA. They'll need to work overtime to steal that election.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020 3:26 PM

Sounds like Obiden is losing FL.

With GOP Gov, it might be harder for Dems to steal FL than in the past.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020 5:15 PM

We're watching Biden's "lead" plummet, despacito.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020 6:02 PM

Can't wait to see Biden completely go to pieces early in the first debate. It's gonna be pretty ugly. EMTs will rush onto the stage to help the confused, disoriented, and flailing Joe back up to his feet. It's beyond any shred of dignity that Democrats will put Joe out there in his condition. Then I remember they have no morality or ethics.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020 8:11 PM

All polls for Trump are much higher than reported simply due to process and reality. Most Trump supporters won't participate in any poll. Actually many Trump voters say they support Biden, just so they don't have to deal with obnoxious libtard reactions.

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Wednesday, September 16, 2020 10:27 PM

Yup.

And Joe Rogan agreed to host a 4 hour debate that Trump requested.

Of course Biden's people won't allow him to do that. And the fine ladies on The View are now painting Liberal Joe Rogan who had Bernie Sanders on as a racist white nationalist.

The hits keep coming.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 18, 2020 3:29 PM

I keep hearing Maine is going to Trump. But I'm not familiar with the details or reasons.

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Friday, September 18, 2020 3:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
All polls for Trump are much higher than reported simply due to process and reality. Most Trump supporters won't participate in any poll. Actually many Trump voters say they support Biden, just so they don't have to deal with obnoxious libtard reactions.

Sure, buddy.

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Friday, September 18, 2020 3:55 PM

Your laughing was cute for the last 3 3/4 years, Marcos.

Sadly for you, reality is only a month and a half away.

Try not to burn down too many black owned businesses with your misplaced rage when it comes crashing down on you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, September 22, 2020 7:23 PM

I heard that pollwatch had Trump getting 11% of black vote, but now their polls are showing 22% already? I heard PA specifically mentioned.

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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:57 PM

I heard that Nate Silver announced that Obiden has a 75% chance of winning, unlike the tight race that Hilliary had, at only 60% chance of winning.

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Thursday, October 1, 2020 12:14 PM

Biden is still leading in the polls, and voters say he won his first debate against Trump
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/01/biden-leads-polls-voters-say-he-beat-t
rump-in-first-debate.html

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 4:35 PM

I just heard John McGlaughlin report that his new poll from the past week shows Trump is ahead min FL, 46-43%.

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Thursday, October 8, 2020 5:24 PM

For the last 5 days, Biden has been behind where Hillary was in the Top Battleground states.

Pretty funny, considering that people here seem to think that Biden won the first debate and Trump getting covid was the nail in the coffin on his reelection bid.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 2:29 PM

Why is Sloppy Joe campaigning so hard in MN and NV? I heard Fake News say those were already going for Obiden.

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 3:21 PM

Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump

General election polls don't mean shit, dummy. Only top battlegrounds matter.

Trump is still doing better against Joe than he was against Hillary today, no matter how intentionally skewed the Legacy Media polling is.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

The only thing you're gearing yourself up for is another 4 years of crying about the Electoral College when those 5 million extra Democrat voters from California can go fuck themselves.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump

In 2016 at this time, Rasmussen had Trump with 43%, and at 45% in 2020.
Economist 2016: Trump 38%, 2020: 42%
Ipsos 2016: Trump 39%, 2020: 41%

So, Trump is 2% or 4% better than 4 years ago same time.
Guess that means Trump will do better than he did in 2016.

Yaderehey, Trump is really gonna get his butt whoopped in 2 weeks, almost as much as he got whoopped in 2016.

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 6:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump
In 2016 at this time, Rasmussen had Trump with 43%, and at 45% in 2020.
Economist 2016: Trump 38%, 2020: 42%

Arguing with facts.

Typical trumptarded Russian troll. You suck at your job.

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump
In 2016 at this time, Rasmussen had Trump with 43%, and at 45% in 2020.
Economist 2016: Trump 38%, 2020: 42%
Arguing with facts.

Typical trumptarded Russian troll. You suck at your job.

Yeah, retard.

We're well aware that you don't like when people argue you using facts that destroy that little fantasy world you're living in.

Only three more weeks until I get to shove Trump's win so far up your ass you'll still be bleeding from that rawdawg next campaign cycle.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, October 19, 2020 5:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump
In 2016 at this time, Rasmussen had Trump with 43%, and at 45% in 2020.
Economist 2016: Trump 38%, 2020: 42%
Ipsos 2016: Trump 39%, 2020: 41%

So, Trump is 2% or 4% better than 4 years ago same time.
Guess that means Trump will do better than he did in 2016.

Yaderehey, Trump is really gonna get his butt whoopped in 2 weeks, almost as much as he got whoopped in 2016.

I finally finished this post.

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Today’s 2020 Election Polls: Biden Is In A Much Stronger Polling Position Than Hillary
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2020/10/11/todays-2020-elect
ion-polls-biden-is-in-a-much-stronger-polling-position-than-hillary/#388da68e27f9

After three major national polls released this week showed Joe Biden ahead by double digits over President Trump, the Democratic nominee has jumped out to a 10 point lead on average in national polls, a much stronger position than Hillary Clinton was in at any point in the 2016 race.
---

Looks like lots of former Trump voters have woken up. #WalkAwayFromTrump
In 2016 at this time, Rasmussen had Trump with 43%, and at 45% in 2020.
Economist 2016: Trump 38%, 2020: 42%
Ipsos 2016: Trump 39%, 2020: 41%

So, Trump is 2% or 4% better than 4 years ago same time.
Guess that means Trump will do better than he did in 2016.

Yaderehey, Trump is really gonna get his butt whoopped in 2 weeks, almost as much as he got whoopped in 2016.
I finally finished this post.

What is it about 2016 that destroyed your ability to read polls and do math?

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:02 PM

US election polls tracker: who is leading in the swing states?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/19/us-election-polls-trac
ker-who-is-leading-in-the-swing-states

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Monday, October 19, 2020 6:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
US election polls tracker: who is leading in the swing states?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/19/us-election-polls-trac
ker-who-is-leading-in-the-swing-states

We don't buy those bullshit polls any more now than we did in 2016.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/trump-vs-bi
den-top-battleground-states-2020-vs-2016/

Biden is trailing where Clinton was in the Top Battleground states by 0.8 as of today.

Those polls need to be showing a much further lead for Biden if he has any chance in actual reality of winning the race.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 31, 2020 12:28 PM

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/2020-polls-live-trump-trailing-091747713.htm
l

Fake News finally admits Trump is winning MI, PA.

hahahahahaha.

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Saturday, October 31, 2020 9:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/2020-polls-live-trump-trailing-091747713.htm
l

Fake News finally admits Trump is winning MI, PA.

hahahahahaha.

Quote:
Positive polls placing Donald Trump ahead in Pennsylvania and Michigan has led to a fight over prediction accuracy among establishment and upstart pollsters.

Gee. Who wold have seen that coming?

Oh... wait.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, November 3, 2020 4:39 PM

News reported that nearly 1.9 million votes cast early or absentee in WI.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 3:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
News reported that nearly 1.9 million votes cast early or absentee in WI.

News reports show 3.24 million votes reported n WI.
Apparently this is more that the Eligible Voters in WI.
For the whole night last night, Trump was leading in the voting for WI, with an 8% lead by the time Obiden held his presser.
This morning the lead suddenly went to Obiden.
For some reason, Trump campaign has requested a recount.

Maybe we can get the real vote results. The recount in 2011 gained a bunch for conservatives.

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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 3:25 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
News reported that nearly 1.9 million votes cast early or absentee in WI.
News reports show 3.24 million votes reported n WI.
Apparently this is more that the Eligible Voters in WI.
For the whole night last night, Trump was leading in the voting for WI, with an 8% lead by the time Obiden held his presser.
This morning the lead suddenly went to Obiden.
For some reason, Trump campaign has requested a recount.

Stop lying, you Russian POS.

No, Wisconsin Did Not Count More Votes Than Registered Voters in 2020
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wisconsin-more-votes-than-voters/

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Wednesday, November 4, 2020 3:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
News reported that nearly 1.9 million votes cast early or absentee in WI.
News reports show 3.24 million votes reported in WI.
Apparently this is more that the Eligible Voters in WI.
For the whole night last night, Trump was leading in the voting for WI, with an 8% lead by the time Obiden held his presser.
This morning the lead suddenly went to Obiden.
For some reason, Trump campaign has requested a recount.

Maybe we can get the real vote results. The recount in 2011 gained a bunch for conservatives.

The WI recount in 2011 was for State Supreme Court, with 33% turnout and only 1.5 million votes cast. Liberals claimed a lead of 200 votes. The recount ended with 7,000 votes.

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