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Friday, November 13, 2020 10:43 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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‘Milk Him Like a Cow’: Russian State Media Mulls How to Take Advantage of Trump Before He’s Gone

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-mulls-how-to-take-ad
vantage-of-trump-before-he-leaves-office


Russian lawmakers want Putin to take advantage of Trump in the remaining weeks he’s in office.

"Addressing Vladimir Putin on Russia’s premier television shows, lawmakers and pundits urged the Russian president to take advantage of the Kremlin’s outgoing asset in the White House.

Most experts unanimously agree that the presidency of Joe Biden will result in a slew of negative consequences for Putin’s Russia. The Kremlin’s refusal to recognize Biden as the president-elect was planned and discussed on Russian state television long before any legal challenges were raised by the Trump administration. This symbolic step is meant to demonstrate that Russia is still on Trump’s side, in order to extract some last-minute favors from the Kremlin’s favorite American president.

Disappointed by Trump’s defeat, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, said on Russian state TV show Sunday Evening with Vladimir Soloviev: “We could have interfered this fall, big time... If his [Trump’s] head worked better, he could have asked us to do this or that. And he would have won, along with us... If we need Trump, then let’s help him. Make him dependent on us, so we could milk him like a cow.”

Zhirinovsky opined that Trump is a businessman and a showman, but lacks political will that could come from Russia, as a deciding external force. “We can help him stay in power,” Zhirinovsky argued. He pointed out that Trump still has 72 days to undertake a number of actions that benefit Russia, including the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq, as well as the lifting of sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany. He bitterly complained that Trump “didn’t come through on any of his promises that would have been to our advantage.”

In an interview with Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, the historian Valery Garbuzov, director of the Institute of U.S. and Canadian Studies at the Russian Academy of Sciences, pointed out: “Trump has played a cruel joke on Russian political elites. In 2016, Russia placed a bet on Trump. I don’t know what our top officials were thinking. But they made a major miscalculation... It’s time for our elites to sober up...”

Contrary to the Kremlin’s half-hearted denials, Russia did interfere in the U.S. elections in 2020, but its amplification of anti-Biden smears fell on deaf ears. Garbuzov noted that attacks on Biden turned out to be ineffective, overestimated, and petty. Russian pundits and experts on various state TV shows grimly noted that resistance to information warfare in the United States has risen to higher levels, with most of the media having learned much from the missteps of 2016."


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Friday, November 13, 2020 10:53 AM

THG


tick tock putin tick tock

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Friday, November 13, 2020 11:18 AM

REAVERFAN


Squad goals!





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Friday, November 13, 2020 12:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Going to laugh when Biden is bending over for Emperor Xi and you all look the other way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 13, 2020 12:28 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Going to laugh when Biden is bending over for Emperor Xi and you all look the other way.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

Going to keep marveling at how stupid your comments are.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 1:17 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Be my guest.

Not sure why you're celebrating, Marcos.

The Democrats hate you, and you're going to hate Biden.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:14 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Be my guest.

Not sure why you're celebrating, Marcos.

The Democrats hate you, and you're going to hate Biden.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

The Republicans love you. You're a low-information dupe, whose taxes are scheduled to go up in 2021, while the rich keep their cuts.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:20 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Going to laugh when Biden is bending over for Emperor Xi and you all look the other way.



I'm not going to wait. I'm going to laugh at you right now.

You are incapable of learning even from your own dumb shittery. That's like double stupid.

Hey! Here's another GEM of yours to prove the point. It's a twist on a theme of being so full of Feelz and desperate to be right that you just can't help tell the forum how wrong you are:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63120&p=5

6ixForBrains: "Oh. BTW... Your hero AOC is out the door in the primary. She's going to get crushed."

Good one, Kreskin! Yup, she did some crushing alright.

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Be my guest.

Not sure why you're celebrating, Marcos.

The Democrats hate you, and you're going to hate Biden.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

The Republicans love you. You're a low-information dupe, whose taxes are scheduled to go up in 2021, while the rich keep their cuts.





No. My taxes won't be up until 2025 when Trump's tax cuts expire unless Democrats aren't in power then.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:40 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Going to laugh when Biden is bending over for Emperor Xi and you all look the other way.



I'm not going to wait. I'm going to laugh at you right now.

You are incapable of learning even from your own dumb shittery. That's like double stupid.

Hey! Here's another GEM of yours to prove the point. It's a twist on a theme of being so full of Feelz and desperate to be right that you just can't help tell the forum how wrong you are:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63120&p=5

6ixForBrains: "Oh. BTW... Your hero AOC is out the door in the primary. She's going to get crushed."

Good one, Kreskin! Yup, she did some crushing alright.



Worth reposting...

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Friday, November 13, 2020 2:47 PM

THG


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US ELECTIONS AND DOMINO EFFECT





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Friday, November 13, 2020 4:07 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

US ELECTIONS AND DOMINO EFFECT




I would hope so! Maybe it will be a catalyst - the one good thing from Trump!

Dang, so close to going the other way - knifes edge. I won't feel 100% until he's escorted out/leaves office though. And even then, we have tens of thousands of entitled Trump cultists hurt and frustrated during a pandemic.

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Friday, November 13, 2020 6:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Their boy wins and they're more awful than ever.

For anybody who's watching from the sidelines, THIS is the state of the Democratic Party in America.

Pure trash.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 13, 2020 7:16 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Russia: "Milk Him Like a Cow"

Another fake quote from a peddler of propaganda about the non-existent RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! connection to Trump.



Are you STILL trying to re-write the Mueller Report?

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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:30 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Russia: "Milk Him Like a Cow"

Another fake quote from a peddler of propaganda about the non-existent RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!!RUSSIA!!! connection to Trump.



Are you STILL trying to re-write the Mueller Report?

OMG! This is FAKE PROPAGANDA!

Russia is a great, totally democratic country, with a great leader who's totally nice.

Disappointed by Trump’s defeat, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, said on Russian state TV show Sunday Evening with Vladimir Soloviev: “We could have interfered this fall, big time... If his [Trump’s] head worked better, he could have asked us to do this or that. And he would have won, along with us... If we need Trump, then let’s help him. Make him dependent on us, so we could milk him like a cow.” -direct quote from article.

You can read Russian. Be a dear and confirm it for us, OK?



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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Quote:

Russia is a great, totally democratic country, with a great leader who's totally nice.


OMG!! This is TOTALLY A STRAWMAN LIE!!

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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:


Quote:

Russia is a great, totally democratic country, with a great leader who's totally nice.


OMG!! This is TOTALLY A STRAWMAN LIE!!

Careful. Don't piss off your bosses.

You should always praise Putin, or at least ignore his crimes as if he weren't a murderous fascist dictator.



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Friday, November 13, 2020 9:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Quote:

Careful. Don't piss off your bosses.

You should always praise Putin, or at least ignore his crimes as if he weren't a murderous fascist dictator.



OMG!! This is total ad hominem BS!

And proof you have no argument, as always.

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:59 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:


Russia is a great, totally democratic country, with a great leader who's totally nice.





I know they HAVE to push the agenda, but do you think even THEY actually do believe that?
How far CAN doublethink go with these two??


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Saturday, November 14, 2020 2:03 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Pure trash.




From the mouth of the Garbageman hisself

We have not yet BEGUN to return the awful to which thee art due. (I need a bible thumping emoji for this one )


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Saturday, November 14, 2020 3:11 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Listening to Zhirinovsky talk foreign policy is like listening to Rush Limbaugh. Zhirinovsky pulls about 5% of the vote- just above the minimum to grant him a seat in the Duma. Even Zhirinovsky is pissed off that the Kremlin doesn't listen to him.

Leave it to CAPTNMUSH to present less than half the truth to support a lie.

Quote:

MOSCOW — Vladimir V. Zhirinovsky, Russia’s septuagenarian nationalist firebrand, long functioned as a safety valve for public discontent, corralling protest votes but then supporting President Vladimir V. Putin at key junctures.

Now, he says, the Kremlin treats his party “like idiots.”

“Go out on the field and play,” he says his party is told, “but don’t score any goals.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/russia-putin-zhirinovs
ky-furgal.html


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Saturday, November 14, 2020 8:06 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Listening to Zhirinovsky talk foreign policy is like listening to Rush Limbaugh. Zhirinovsky pulls about 5% of the vote- just above the minimum to grant him a seat in the Duma. Even Zhirinovsky is pissed off that the Kremlin doesn't listen to him.

Leave it to CAPTNMUSH to present less than half the truth to support a lie.

Quote:

MOSCOW — Vladimir V. Zhirinovsky, Russia’s septuagenarian nationalist firebrand, long functioned as a safety valve for public discontent, corralling protest votes but then supporting President Vladimir V. Putin at key junctures.

Now, he says, the Kremlin treats his party “like idiots.”

“Go out on the field and play,” he says his party is told, “but don’t score any goals.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/russia-putin-zhirinovs
ky-furgal.html


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#WEARAMASK

Your knowledge of Russian politics is impressive, but you live there, so it should be.



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Saturday, November 14, 2020 9:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
Listening to Zhirinovsky talk foreign policy is like listening to Rush Limbaugh. Zhirinovsky pulls about 5% of the vote- just above the minimum to grant him a seat in the Duma. Even Zhirinovsky is pissed off that the Kremlin doesn't listen to him.

Leave it to CAPTNMUSH to present less than half the truth to support a lie.

Quote:

MOSCOW — Vladimir V. Zhirinovsky, Russia’s septuagenarian nationalist firebrand, long functioned as a safety valve for public discontent, corralling protest votes but then supporting President Vladimir V. Putin at key junctures.

Now, he says, the Kremlin treats his party “like idiots.”

“Go out on the field and play,” he says his party is told, “but don’t score any goals.”



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/world/europe/russia-putin-zhirinovs
ky-furgal.html


REAVERBOT: your knowledge of Russian politics is impressive, but you live there, so it should be.




No, son, all I had to do was "copy-paste" Zhirinisovky's name into Duckduckgo, and all of this popped right up. Even the NYT knows more about him than CAPTNMUSH does, an that's saying something!

I never trust what CAPTNMUSH posts, just like I never trust what YOU post, so I always look for verification to see if what either of you post has any basis in reality.

And CAPTNMUSH did not disapppoint my expectations, since he lies most of the time, just like you.

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


BTW REAVErBOT, CAPTNMUSH, and dear readers, THIS is why I looked into CAPTNMUSH's story
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
‘Milk Him Like a Cow’: Russian State Media Mulls How to Take Advantage of Trump Before He’s Gone

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-state-media-mulls-how-to-take-ad
vantage-of-trump-before-he-leaves-office


Russian lawmakers want Putin to take advantage of Trump in the remaining weeks he’s in office.

Who?

Quote:

"Addressing Vladimir Putin on Russia’s premier television shows
which?

Quote:

, lawmakers and pundits
Who?
Quote:

urged the Russian president to take advantage of the Kremlin’s outgoing asset in the White House.

Most experts

Who?

Quote:

unanimously agree that the presidency of Joe Biden will result in a slew of negative consequences for Putin’s Russia. The Kremlin’s refusal to recognize Biden as the president-elect was planned and discussed on Russian state television
Where? When?
Quote:

long before any legal challenges were raised by the Trump administration. This symbolic step is meant to demonstrate that Russia is still on Trump’s side, in order to extract some last-minute favors from the Kremlin’s favorite American president.
This reminds me very much of the disinfo piece "Trump intends to barricade himself in the White House" that CAPTNMUSH posted earlier, with slew after slew of entirely unsourced allegations, without even the figleaf of "anonymous sources". It's like they, yanno, just made up schiess whole cloth.

Quote:

Disappointed by Trump’s defeat, Vladimir Zhirinovsky, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia, said on Russian state TV show Sunday Evening with Vladimir Soloviev: “We could have interfered this fall, big time... If his [Trump’s] head worked better, he could have asked us to do this or that. And he would have won, along with us... If we need Trump, then let’s help him. Make him dependent on us, so we could milk him like a cow.”

Zhirinovsky opined that Trump is a businessman and a showman, but lacks political will that could come from Russia, as a deciding external force. “We can help him stay in power,” Zhirinovsky argued. He pointed out that Trump still has 72 days to undertake a number of actions that benefit Russia, including the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan, Syria, and Iraq, as well as the lifting of sanctions against the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany. He bitterly complained that Trump “didn’t come through on any of his promises that would have been to our advantage.”

In an interview with Russian tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda, the historian Valery Garbuzov, director of the Institute of U.S. and Canadian Studies at the Russian Academy of Sciences, pointed out: “Trump has played a cruel joke on Russian political elites. In 2016, Russia placed a bet on Trump. I don’t know what our top officials were thinking. But they made a major miscalculation... It’s time for our elites to sober up...”

Nothing in their about "milking him like a cow", is there?

Quote:

Contrary to the Kremlin’s half-hearted denials, Russia did interfere in the U.S. elections in 2020, but its amplification of anti-Biden smears fell on deaf ears. Garbuzov noted that attacks on Biden turned out to be ineffective, overestimated, and petty. Russian pundits and experts on various state TV shows grimly noted that resistance to information warfare in the United States has risen to higher levels, with most of the media having learned much from the missteps of 2016."


So, out of all of these Russian pundits and experts who are on all sorts of channels, they can only find Zhirinovsky to quote? And apparently everyone ... even the NYT and Wikipedia ... knows that Zhirinosvsky is a nutter like REAVERBOT who says outrageous things that nobody pays attention to? And for their second quote they grab somebody quoted in a tabloid who says nothing provocative at all?

This is one way to tell disinfo... there is little to no sourcing. The "who, what, when, where, and why" of a real news article is missing. The most provocative statement is plastered as a headline.

Really, if you want to be robustly innoculated against disinfo from ANY side, you need to pay attention to what you're reading, and see if it has any basis in fact. You don't see me quoting Trump, do you?

Same reason I don't quote CAPTNMUSH, SECOND, and REAVERBOT.

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:34 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Cap'n Cuck is an automaton. Nothing more than an extension of the will of his superiors.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 10:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Cap'n Cuck is an automaton. Nothing more than an extension of the will of his superiors.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

CAPTNMUSH does this for a living. He's an internet "influencer" and given how smoothly he lies on the topic of politics he's prolly paid by the DNC.

The only topic he has ANY genuine personal interest in is Covid-19, and that's prolly because he's gay and living with HIV.

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Saturday, November 14, 2020 1:48 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


The only topic he has ANY genuine personal interest in is Covid-19, and that's prolly because he's gay and living with HIV.



They have NO IDEA what normal people look like, being lunatics themselves, so when they come across normal people they think they are unicorns....and then come up with all these fantasy stories about them to make themselves feel better about being loons!


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Saturday, November 14, 2020 9:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


The only topic he has ANY genuine personal interest in is Covid-19, and that's prolly because he's gay and living with HIV.



They have NO IDEA what normal people look like, being lunatics themselves, so when they come across normal people they think they are unicorns....and then come up with all these fantasy stories about them to make themselves feel better about being loons!


I WILL HEARTILY DEFEND HUMAN RIGHTS UNTIL YOU CAN SEE YOUR WRONGS
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ER... you can hardly be the judge of what's "normal" since you're such a Frankenstein's monster yourself



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