Election Fraud Debunking Megathread by reaverfan

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Tell me - what in the bill improves the voting process so that all votes are legitimate and all legitimate votes are accurately counted? Or, to be more specific - what in the bill addresses anything that JPL/ MIT found were serious problems, or that implements any of their solutions?

MEANWHILE - the democratic* bill passed by the House will not become law. It could be written on toilet paper for all it'll affect. It will never be put to the test as an effective legislative solution. But it sure is easy enough to come up with dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness one.

And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Monday, December 14, 2020 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Tell me - what in the bill improves the voting process so that all votes are legitimate and all legitimate votes are accurately counted? Or, to be more specific - what in the bill addresses anything that JPL/ MIT found were serious problems, or that implements any of their solutions?

MEANWHILE - the democratic* bill passed by the House will not become law. It could be written on toilet paper for all it'll affect. It will never be put to the test as an effective legislative solution. But it sure is easy enough to come up with dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness one.

And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

Why don't you read it and find out, troll?

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Monday, December 14, 2020 7:08 PM

The Electoral College HAS CAST ITS VOTES, It's Finally OVER

Cry some more, trumptards.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.

As usual.

Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)

Not so comrade kiki. I posted this in response to her post.

I see comrade sig is still posting unsubstantiated and taken out of context crap. It probably comes from ZHedge. If not then from one of her many other bullshit sources; russia maybe. It shows she knows the post to be lies and she knows if she sources it we'll all know. Sorry comrade, we already know.

Brace yourselves; she'll now post other stories from mainstream media regarding what shes' posted as though they back her claims. No, they won't because what she posted are stories where shes' changed the context to imply something other than what the legit stories report. In her latest claim, what she claims to be relevant "connected" to the original story, is in fact not even thinly related.

Is there anybody here who posts honestly that doesn't know she has done this again and again for years. Shes' certainly been doing this since my arrival.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 7:37 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.

As usual.

Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)

I quoted her post twice and directly responded to each, so way to be wrong. You’re as bad as Jack.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 9:27 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Tell me - what in the bill improves the voting process so that all votes are legitimate and all legitimate votes are accurately counted? Or, to be more specific - what in the bill addresses anything that JPL/ MIT found were serious problems, or that implements any of their solutions?

MEANWHILE - the democratic* bill passed by the House will not become law. It could be written on toilet paper for all it'll affect. It will never be put to the test as an effective legislative solution. But it sure is easy enough to come up with dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness one.

1kiki, the Republicans in the Senate have murdered/killed/destroyed every bill to make elections run more rationally/openly/verifiably. These were NOT "dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness."

If you want to see a "dreamscape", see Trump's right hand man, Stephen Miller's made up story about how to win the election:

Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard, debunks Stephen Miller's false claim that "alternate" electors could be sent to Congress to overturn Biden's win.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/15/stephen-miller-election
-fox-news-laurence-tribe-ebof-vpx.cnn

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, December 14, 2020 9:59 PM

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I see nobody has addressed the CONTENT of Signy's post.

As usual.

Just more libel, trolling, lies, and misdirection from the usual suspects. (TUS)

I quoted her post twice and directly responded to each, so way to be wrong. You’re as bad as Jack.

They truly are pathetic simpleton trolls.

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Monday, December 14, 2020 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Tell me - what in the bill improves the voting process so that all votes are legitimate and all legitimate votes are accurately counted? Or, to be more specific - what in the bill addresses anything that JPL/ MIT found were serious problems, or that implements any of their solutions?

MEANWHILE - the democratic* bill passed by the House will not become law. It could be written on toilet paper for all it'll affect. It will never be put to the test as an effective legislative solution. But it sure is easy enough to come up with dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness one.
1kiki, the Republicans in the Senate have murdered/killed/destroyed every bill to make elections run more rationally/openly/verifiably. These were NOT "dream bills for dreamscapes that will never be put to any test except the dreamy political correctness."

If you want to see a "dreamscape", see Trump's right hand man, Stephen Miller's made up story about how to win the election:

Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard, debunks Stephen Miller's false claim that "alternate" electors could be sent to Congress to overturn Biden's win.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/12/15/stephen-miller-election
-fox-news-laurence-tribe-ebof-vpx.cnn

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Well, the electors voted, and it's a done deal.

Biden is president. I will bathe in the river of trumptard tears, and cheer for their prison sentences.

We're taking America back from the Nazis.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 2:12 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
I quoted her post twice and directly responded to each, so way to be wrong. You’re as bad as Jack.

No CC, you did not address what Signy posted. You posted your own diversions

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SIGNYM - Remember when Trump said that Trump Tower was "wiretapped",and it was derided as "fake news"? Well, except for the archaic term that he used, he was essentially correct.

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CC -

Here's CC not responding with anything at all in Signy's post.

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SIGNYM - Remember when Hunter Biden's laptop was derided as "Russian disinformation", and now we find out that EVEN THEN, Biden was the subject of FOUR investigations?

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CC - BUT HILLARY !!

(FIFY)
And that was CC AGAIN not responding to the content of Signy;s post.

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CC - I know - it's not about his GUILT! It's about using him to stain his dad. Gee, not at all obvious.

And here is CC attacking Signy's motives by making stuff up - and notice - AGAIN - not responding to the content of Signy' post.

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SIGNYM - Remember when the media blared that "Russia" had "stolen" the DNC emails, even tho Crowdstrike (the private entity that had examined their servers) secretly testified to the GOP-controlled Senate months and months before it became a story) that they had NO SUCH EVIDENCE?

The news, the DC swamp, the FIB... they claim that truth is a lies, and lies are truth. Just, yanno, invert what they say and you'll have a clearer picture.

Everything that Trump tweeted is true. The only thing that will set the next election right is if Legislatures and Governors and Secretaries of State REQUIRE a vote procedure that is secure and auditable. We've had at least three examples of stolen elections since 2000 (GWB, GWB, and Biden) but the establishment wings of both parties don't mind: they reach secret deals about who is "supposed" to win which election.

AND after NOT addressing anything in Signy's post CC tries try to derail any pretense at a discussion even further with another irrelevant topic!

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CC - CISA issues rare emergency directive after suspected Russian hacking campaign.

Huh.

HUH, indeed.

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:33 AM

You lost yet again, Russian troll. Shoo!

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 8:22 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
You lost yet again, Russian troll. Shoo!

There is a reason why Trump sues or fires everyone that crosses him and why 1kiki, Signym, and 6ix are forever arguing with everyone:

What the Science of Addiction Tells Us About Trump

By James Kimmel, Jr., lecturer in psychiatry at the Yale University School of Medicine

It turns out that your brain on grievances looks a lot like your brain on drugs. And that’s a problem not just for the outgoing president, but for the rest of us.

President Donald Trump has made grievance a primary feature of his life and presidency, from the thousands of lawsuits he has filed to, most recently, his repeated claims of national election fraud. His opponents, and even many of his supporters, have wondered why he can’t seem to control his urges to lash out at perceived enemies.

I am a violence researcher and study the role of grievances and retaliation in violent crime. Recently, I’ve been researching the way grievances affect the brain, and it turns out that your brain on grievance looks a lot like your brain on drugs. In fact, brain imaging studies show that harboring a grievance (a perceived wrong or injustice, real or imagined) activates the same neural reward circuitry as narcotics.

This isn’t a metaphor; it’s brain biology. Scientists have found that in substance addiction, environmental cues such as being in a place where drugs are taken or meeting another person who takes drugs cause sharp surges of dopamine in crucial reward and habit regions of the brain, specifically, the nucleus accumbens and dorsal striatum. This triggers cravings in anticipation of experiencing pleasure and relief through intoxication. Recent studies show that similarly, cues such as experiencing or being reminded of a perceived wrong or injustice — a grievance — activate these same reward and habit regions of the brain, triggering cravings in anticipation of experiencing pleasure and relief through retaliation. To be clear, the retaliation doesn’t need to be physically violent—an unkind word, or tweet, can also be very gratifying.

Although these are new findings and the research in this area is not yet settled, what this suggests is that similar to the way people become addicted to drugs or gambling, people may also become addicted to seeking retribution against their enemies—revenge addiction. This may help explain why some people just can’t let go of their grievances long after others feel they should have moved on—and why some people resort to violence.

It’s worth asking whether this helps explain Trump’s fixation on his grievances and ways of exacting retribution for them. The hallmark of addiction is compulsive behavior despite harmful consequences. Trump’s unrelenting efforts to retaliate against those he believes have treated him unjustly (including, now, American voters) appear to be compulsive and uncontrollable. The harm this causes to himself and others is obvious but seems to have no deterrent effect. Reports suggest he has been doing this for much of his life. He seems powerless to stop. He also seems to derive a great deal of pleasure from it.

The science of addiction provides another cautionary insight: Trump’s revenge habit hurts not only himself and the targets of his retaliatory wrath, but the rest of us, too.

Like substance addiction, revenge addiction appears to spread from person to person. For instance, inner-city gun violence spreads in neighborhoods like a social contagion, with one person’s grievances infecting others with a desire to seek vengeance. Because of his unique position and use of the media and social networks, Trump is able to spread his grievances to thousands or millions of others through Twitter, TV and rallies. His demand for retribution becomes their demand, causing his supporters to crave retaliation—and, in a vicious cycle, this in turn causes Trump’s targets and their supporters to feel aggrieved and want to retaliate, too.

What can be done? When a friend or family member has an addiction, the first priority is to take care of yourself, and the next step is to encourage the addict to seek help. This gets complicated when we’re talking about a president and an entire nation, but we’re already on our way. We’ve recently held a nationwide electoral intervention with Trump, which has the dual benefit of helping to protect the country from further damage and shows him that his retaliatory behavior is no longer acceptable and needs to change. But addiction interventions are often risky and can backfire. That appears to be happening with Trump, who now seems even more aggrieved and more determined to use retaliation, raising the stakes.

There are no quick fixes with addiction. We’re in for a long haul. Our society, and Trump, would seem to have little chance of healing until we (and he) realize how the politics of grievance is damaging us. Political parties and interest groups have come to rely upon inflaming grievances and stoking vindictiveness to generate donations and motivate voters. Media, entertainment and social networking giants also rely upon grievance and revenge-based content to attract viewers and users and increase advertising and sales. More people need to become savvy about how, why and for whose benefit they are being made to feel aggrieved and must decide to stop dealing in the drug of their own destruction.

We must also increase public education, from school age through adulthood, about healthy ways to process feelings of hurt or humiliation. The risk is not only political. The brains of millions of Americans have spent the past few years essentially being primed for revenge-seeking, and it can manifest in areas other than politics. Retaliation in response to grievances is the primary motive in intimate partner violence, youth violence and bullying, street violence, lone-actor attacks, police brutality, and terrorism. People and agencies interested in reducing murder rates, mass shootings, domestic terrorism, and other forms of violence should be focusing on revenge addiction.

Developing innovative prevention and treatment strategies for revenge addiction is essential. At Yale, we are studying a promising “motive control” (in contrast to gun control) method for preventing violence that allows people with grievances to put those who have hurt or offended them through imaginary but highly realistic criminal trials. We have found that this mental process, which we call the “Nonjustice System,” is actually a safe and satisfying way of controlling revenge cravings that works like a kind of methadone for revenge addicts. This method is not only for preventing violence; anybody struggling with grievances, even Trump, can benefit from it. It can be utilized in group settings, too, and we’re hoping to develop an app so more people can access it.

Assuming Trump does not seek help, what can we expect from him going forward? Tragically, more of the same. People suffering from addiction tend to experience relationship problems and conflicts, display periods of euphoria followed by depression and restlessness, and fail to meet their responsibilities or fulfill their professional obligations. They spend long periods of time obsessing over and planning ways to gratify their cravings, and engage in the addictive behavior despite the physical or psychological harm it causes. Although I have no idea what Trump’s life is really like, from outside observation many of these indicators appear to be present.

Which is why there also must be compassion for Trump. One of the lessons learned with substance addiction is that it is a disease, a brain and behavioral disorder, not a moral failure, and shaming and punishment do not work. Attacking Trump for his retaliatory behavior only fuels it by making him feel more aggrieved.

Firm steps are necessary to limit the damage Trump’s grievances are inflicting on this country. We all have a role to play in halting the cycle of grievance and retaliation. But in the end, he is a human being who needs help. It should be offered with the same care, compassion, and, yes, forgiveness, offered to anybody else whose life—or nation—is being torn apart by addiction.

More at https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/12/trump-grievance-addi
ction-444570

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 9:54 AM

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Rep. Mitchell says he's leaving GOP: I've had enough

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 1:31 PM

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Tuesday, December 15, 2020 4:10 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Yep.

By calling for neutral academic investigations of the last election, and by saying that people of BOTH political parties have failed to address the problems repeatedly outlined by JPL/ MIT and have failed to implement any solutions to them, I'm defending Trump.

SOMEbody who's making that claim has a serious cases of dishonesty!!!

And I'm really looking forward to saying "I told you so" when my predictions about democrats* and Biden* come true.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 7:41 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Mark A. Aguirre, 63, is accused of running his SUV into the back of a truck belonging to an air conditioner repairman, convinced the truck contained 750,000 fraudulent ballots.

An air conditioning repairman was driving in south Houston around 5:30 a.m. on Oct. 19 when a black SUV rammed the back of his truck. When he pulled over in the darkness and got out to check if the other driver was OK, the man in the SUV drew a pistol and ordered him to the ground.

He complied. As the other driver drove a knee into his back, the repairman saw two other vehicles pull up. It was the police.

Aguirre told police they would find hundreds of thousands of ballots in the repairman’s truck. Instead they found only air conditioner parts and tools.

According to an indictment announced Tuesday by the Harris County District Attorney’s Office, the incident was a brazen attempt by a former Houston police captain to secure evidence to support a far-fetched claim that prominent local Democrats had orchestrated a scheme to harvest more than 700,000 ballots leading up to the Nov. 3 election. The ex-lawman, Mark A. Aguirre, 63, faces a felony charge of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon stemming from the Oct. 19 confrontation.

“He crossed the line from dirty politics to commission of a violent crime and we are lucky no one was killed,” District Attorney Kim Ogg said. “His alleged investigation was backward from the start — first alleging a crime had occurred and then trying to prove it happened.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20201215232405/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Ex-Houston-police-captain-who-alleged-unfounded-15803963.php

Meanwhile, grand jury subpoenas revealed that Aguirre received a total of $266,400 from Liberty Center for God and Country in September and October, the vast majority of which — $211,400 — came the day after the alleged aggravated assault incident. Former Harris County Republican Party Chairman Jared Woodfill is president of the group; Hotze is CEO, according to the group’s website.

The group raised nearly $70,000 through a GoFundMe page in October. Donors included Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller, conservative activist JoAnn Fleming and former Republican state representatives Rick Green and Jodie Laubenberg.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 7:00 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Longtime Republican strategist Steve Schmidt left the GOP and registered as a Democrat. His lone issue: democracy.

“At the end of the day,” he said Tuesday, “there’s now one pro-democracy political party in the United States of America, and that’s the Democratic Party. And I am a member of that party because of that.”

“What happened in the month of November — premeditatedly, deliberately — was that faith and belief in American democracy was poisoned by President Trump, culminating with 126 members of the House of Representatives and 18 Republican attorneys general signing an amicus brief to a garbage lawsuit that is in essence a declaration of repudiation of American democracy.”

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/veteran-republican-political-strateg
ist-says-the-democratic-party-is-the-democratic-party-11608153653

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:12 AM

Trump recycles OAN’s latest debunked Dominion voting machine conspiracy theory
From an insurance actuary to the Epoch Times to OAN — to the lame-duck president of the United States
https://www.mediamatters.org/voter-fraud-and-suppression/trump-recycle
s-oans-latest-debunked-dominion-voting-machine-conspiracy

The infamous Trump-Fox feedback loop is very dangerous — but Fox is now getting some competition from One America News, as President Donald Trump is promoting conspiracy theories that he sees on OAN about his defeat in the 2020 election.

As documented by Media Matters’ Matt Gertz, Trump was up late last night watching one of Fox’s emerging rivals, One America News, and tweeted about a segment that claimed a study had shown machines from Dominion Voting Systems shifted 2-3% of votes from Trump to President-elect Joe Biden in key swing states.
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Trump is capitalizing on his cult's legendary illiteracy.

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:22 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Trump is capitalizing on his cult's legendary illiteracy.

Here is an example of him doing that just this hour: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
I have NOTHING to do with the potential prosecution of Hunter Biden, or the Biden family. It is just more Fake News. Actually, I find it very sad to watch!
8:55 AM · Dec 17, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1339585047481917441

Trump can write a tweet like that, without getting laughed at, because his cult cannot remember last week: Frustrated Trump mulls appointing special counsel to probe election, Hunter Biden
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/frustrated-trump-mulls-appointing-sp
ecial-counsel-to-probe-election-hunter-biden-11607782800

Old PresDonald had a tantrum
Ee-i-ee-i-o
He tweeted ’bout a rigged election
Ee-i-ee-i-o
With a boo-hoo here
And a boo-hoo there
Here a boo, there a hoo
Everywhere a boo-Hoo

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 10:33 AM

They're so dumb...

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:18 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

They're so dumb...

They aren't all hopeless: Every Republican who yelled and screamed about Donald Trump being robbed was someone with no responsibility over election administration. Among those who did have responsibility for the counting of votes and the declaring of winners, every single one acted properly. That includes governors, secretaries of state, county clerks, registrars, election commissioners, judges (most of them, anyway), and the Supreme Court.

This is, needless to say, not a defense of the jackasses who kowtowed to Donald Trump and Rush Limbaugh by going on Fox News every day to whip the Republican rank and file into a frenzy over a “stolen” election. They did real damage, and they deserve to be shunned. That said, even direct, personal pressure from Trump himself failed to move any of the Republican officials who actually had the power to aid his doomed cause.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 1:27 PM

Democracy wins.

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Thursday, December 17, 2020 3:38 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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They aren't all hopeless: Every democrat* who yelled and screamed about Hillary* being robbed was someone with no responsibility over election administration.

This is, needless to say, not a defense of the jackasses who kowtowed to Hillary* and the NYTimes every day to whip the democratic* rank and file into a frenzy over a “stolen” election. They did real damage, and they deserve to be shunned. That said, even direct, personal pressure from the Deep State failed to remove Trump through impeachment.

fify

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:17 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
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They aren't all hopeless: Every democrat* who yelled and screamed about Hillary* being robbed was someone with no responsibility over election administration.

This is, needless to say, not a defense of the jackasses who kowtowed to Hillary* and the NYTimes every day to whip the democratic* rank and file into a frenzy over a “stolen” election. They did real damage, and they deserve to be shunned. That said, even direct, personal pressure from the Deep State failed to remove Trump through impeachment.
fify

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

Russian troll loses all arguments, so he has to completely make up bullshit strawman arguments in a vain attempt to save face.

Too late, dummy. You shit yourself and we all smell it.

You are really stupid, Kiki. Really, really stupid. A seriously damaged idiot.

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 3:19 PM

Ah-HA! Jr. figured it all out!

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 4:32 PM

Any legit law firm would have clauses like this templated out for repeated use - chances of a typo in a standard section like that would be extremely low. Just shows these so-called professionals are flying by the seat of their pants. Or maybe an intern is trolling them.

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:25 PM

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Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:40 PM

A Fox host was just forced to rebuke his OWN fraud claims on air after a legal threat.

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:20 PM

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Sunday, December 20, 2020 4:32 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Every time you literally put words in people's mouths, you're lying.

RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 9:25 AM

The ‘Red Slime’ Lawsuit That Could Sink Right-Wing Media
Voting machine companies threaten “highly dangerous” cases against Fox, Newsmax and OAN, says Floyd Abrams.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/business/media/smartmatic-lawsuit-f
ox-news-newsmax-oan.html

Trump and his campaign claims to have "all the evidence in the world" to support his grand conspiracy of fraud, yet didn't offer a shred of credible evidence once. You had the Speaker who mentions having a folder "full" of cases, yet never once actually opened it or read one aloud (probably because it's a fake folder full of blank pieces of paper. I wonder where she got that idea from?)

You had over 50 cases being thrown out over a lack of credible evidence, and that should've been the end of it. Unfortunately, you still have these people from Trump himself, Giuliani, Powell, and the hosts from OANN, Info Wars, Fox, and Newsmax who are still spewing the same bullshit since Nov. with the stories changing wildly but overall containing the same message. Until they're taken to court, they will never shut up about it.

I can only imagine that Dominion Voting Systems and Smartmatic are taking huge financial hits since November, and god only knows the amount of threats and harassments they've received or continue to receive from other trumptards who think they're in cahoots with the devil or Soros or some shit.

If there's any chance at someone suing these Reichwing media groups, it's these guys, because this is simply defamation. As long as they don't agree on an out of court settlement, and go for blood, this should be interesting.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 9:28 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Every time you literally put words in people's mouths, you're lying.

Are you butthurt that Trump uses the same propaganda techniques as Hitler? Does that fact make your Russian troll ass have to spew the same nonsense yet again?

If you're so smart, how come I always destroy you?

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Monday, December 21, 2020 5:12 PM

They must be part of the deep state too, right?

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Monday, December 21, 2020 6:07 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

You know, all *** I *** have been advocating is a neutral, academic, high-powered look into the statistical anomalies of the 2020 election; and pointing out that after all these decades, NEITHER party seems interested in fixing the problems. And Signy has repeatedly posted we need paper ballots, hand-counted, in public. How trollish of us to point out factual problems and remedies.

To reiterate - I HAVE pointed out - factually - that there were significant statistical anomalies in 2020 that need to be looked into, by neutral academics with stellar reputations. You know, like the ones who have already spent many years criticizing the US voting so-called system.

We already know elections have been manipulated - Mitofsky report.
http://www.electionmathematics.org/em-exitpolls/ESI/ESI-Mitofsky-files
/ESI-OH-report.pdf
http://www.electionmathematics.org/em-exitpolls/Exit_Polls_2004_Edison
-Mitofsky.pdf

And we know that the joint CalTech/ MIT Vote Technology Project has been EXTREMELY critical (in a polite academic way) of how the US votes.
Project http://vote.caltech.edu/

And what we know is that NONE of the remedies they say are needed have been implemented ... like auditability, paper ballots, hand-counted - and, I might add - in public. JEEZE - who's been posting THAT all along? Those crazy Russian trolls at CalTech/ MIT? Maybe you should give THEM a piece of your mind, SECOND! Yanno, in writing, with your real name at the bottom.

MEANWHILE, I've noticed INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING reporting, with headlines that purport to be about "election fraud" and "vote fraud" are REALLY about VOTER fraud. And VOTER fraud is a very narrow topic, which has nothing to do with all the voting problems that the CalTech/ MIT experts have found that put the legitimacy of the elections in doubt.

To get back to your post -

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From there, both hosts noted that their viewers “should be aware of Newsmax has found no evidence that either dominion or Smartmatic owns the other or has any business association with each other,” assertions that have been repeated consistently by Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell.

“We have no evidence that Dominion uses Smartmatic software or vice versa,” the fact-check continued. “No evidence has been offered that Dominion or Smartmatic used software or reprogrammed software that manipulated votes in the 2020 election. Smartmatic has stated that its software was only used in the 2020 election in Los Angeles, was not used in any battleground state contested by the Trump campaign. Newsmax has no evidence to the contrary.”

“Smartmatic states it has no operations in Venezuela,” the hosts declared. “While the company did election projects in Venezuela from 2004 to 2017, it states it never was founded by Hugo Chavez, nor did it have a corrupt relationship with him or the Venezuelan government.”

Considering that nobody here has posted anything like that, your post is, once again, completely pointless, SECOND.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 7:04 PM

Russian troll blather. ^

Biden won. Your boss even said so. Since Putin can do no wrong in your eyes, aren't you obligated to agree with him?

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Monday, December 21, 2020 8:30 PM

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Russian troll blather. ^

Biden won. Your boss even said so. Since Putin can do no wrong in your eyes, aren't you obligated to agree with him?

T

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/watch/voting-machine-compan
ies-threaten-right-wing-media-companies-with-legal-action-98204741699

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Monday, December 21, 2020 9:02 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

And not surprisingly, SECOND posted more lies!

RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Monday, December 21, 2020 9:03 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Meanwhile, why is NEITHER party calling for a deep academic look into the statistical anomalies of 2020?

And ... if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:07 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Meanwhile, why is NEITHER party calling for a deep academic look into the statistical anomalies of 2020?

Because they don't exist. Biden won by a huge margin, and every recount gives him even more.

A record number of voters expressed their dislike for fascism. They voted it out. The adults are in charge, again.

Get over it, while I savor your delicious tears.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:49 AM

Another video. Go to 1:50.

The liars suddenly STFU when they're about to get sued. I hope they sue their pants off.

It's almost like people who aren't journalists, but are on television giving their opinions as if they were journalists, isn't a good thing.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:52 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Yup. NewsMax is just as bad as CNN.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:54 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. NewsMax is just as bad as CNN.

Pray tell, oh wise one, what do you consider to be good news sources? OAN? Styxenhammer? John Doyle?

Tell us. I can use the laughs.

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:05 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Meanwhile, why is NEITHER party calling for a deep academic look into the statistical anomalies of 2020?

Meanwhile,

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
THE DEMOCRATS DUMPED HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF BALLOTS IN THE SWING STATES LATE IN THE EVENING. IT WAS A RIGGED ELECTION!!!
9:29 AM · Dec 22, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1341405487057821698

1kiki, did you notice Trump failed to provide any evidence? I'm sure that with some help from the White House technical staff, Trump could post on-line any evidence he has, if there was evidence.

There is the opposite of evidence:
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/donald-trump/no-president-tr
ump-ballot-dumps-key-states-were-no/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 11:38 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Back in 2004 the election went from exit polls that said Kerry would win by 3% to "voting" results that had Bush win by 2.5%.

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The exit pollster of record for the 2004 election was the Edison/Mitofsky1 consortium. Their national poll results projected a Kerry victory by 3.0%, whereas the official count had Bush winning by 2.5%.2Several methods have been used to estimate the probability that the national exit poll results would be as different as they were from the national popular vote by random chance. These estimates range from 1 in 16.5 million to 1 in 1,2403. No matter how one calculates it, the discrepancy cannot be attributed to chance.

This is the statistical analysis I've been pointing to for well over a month, that showed that - indeed - elections can be rigged by the many percentage points. And all that was done without leaving a trace, mostly because, as CalTech/ MIT pointed out, the vote was not auditable

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

There are many statistical anomalies in the 2020 election that need a thorough, professional, knowledgeable academic look. And if there was tampering, the only indication would be statistical improbabilities that can't happen by random chance. And that's because, just like in 2004, the votes are not auditable.

But a thorough academic study is a process that NEITHER party seems to want.

If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. NewsMax is just as bad as CNN.
Pray tell, oh wise one, what do you consider to be good news sources? OAN? Styxenhammer? John Doyle?

Tell us. I can use the laughs.

I don't even know who OAN or John Doyle are.

Fun Fact: Anybody shilling boner pills or car insurance in between "news" is not news.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:59 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Back in 2004 the election went from exit polls that said Kerry would win by 3% to "voting" results that had Bush win by 2.5%.
Quote:
The exit pollster of record for the 2004 election was the Edison/Mitofsky1 consortium. Their national poll results projected a Kerry victory by 3.0%, whereas the official count had Bush winning by 2.5%.2Several methods have been used to estimate the probability that the national exit poll results would be as different as they were from the national popular vote by random chance. These estimates range from 1 in 16.5 million to 1 in 1,2403. No matter how one calculates it, the discrepancy cannot be attributed to chance.
This is the statistical analysis I've been pointing to for well over a month, that showed that - indeed - elections can be rigged by the many percentage points. And all that was done without leaving a trace, mostly because, as CalTech/ MIT pointed out, the vote was not auditable

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

There are many statistical anomalies in the 2020 election that need a thorough, professional, knowledgeable academic look. And if there was tampering, the only indication would be statistical improbabilities that can't happen by random chance. And that's because, just like in 2004, the votes are not auditable.

But a thorough academic study is a process that NEITHER party seems to want.

Too bad, but the House of Representatives already passed the law covering everything you could possibly want, 1kiki, over the objections of the Republicans in the House. Once the law got to the Senate, it was killed by Mitch McConnell, a Republican.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/1/text#toc-HCA
836C160982484C9B7D07EDC612E7CB

You can start reading that law that will never get passed by Mitch McConnell:

SEC. 3000. Short title; sense of Congress.

(a) Short title.—This title may be cited as the “Election Security Act”.

(b) Sense of Congress on need to improve election infrastructure security.—It is the sense of Congress that, in light of the lessons learned from Russian interference in the 2016 Presidential election, the Federal Government should intensify its efforts to improve the security of election infrastructure in the United States, including through the use of individual, durable, paper ballots marked by the voter by hand.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:19 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Antonio Mugica was in Boca Raton when an American presidential election really melted down in 2000, and he watched with shocked fascination as local government officials argued over hanging chads and butterfly ballots.

It was so bad, so incompetent, that Mr. Mugica, a young Venezuelan software engineer, decided to shift the focus of his digital security company, Smartmatic, which had been working for banks. It would offer its services to what would obviously be a growth industry: electronic voting machines. He began building a global company that ultimately provided voting machinery and software for elections from Brazil to Belgium and his native Venezuela. He even acquired an American company, then called Sequoia.

Last month, Mr. Mugica initially took it in stride when his company’s name started popping up in grief-addled Trump supporters’ wild conspiracy theories about the election.

“Of course I was surprised, but at the same time, it was pretty clear that these people were trying to discredit the election and they were throwing out 25 conspiracy theories in parallel,” he told me in an interview last week from Barbados, where his company has an office. “I thought it was so absurd that it was not going to have legs.”

But by Nov. 14, he knew he had a problem. That’s when Rudy Giuliani, serving as the president’s lawyer, suggested that one voting company, Dominion Voting Systems, had a sinister connection to vote counts in “Michigan, Arizona and Georgia and other states.” Mr. Giuliani declared on Twitter that the company “was a front for SMARTMATIC, who was really doing the computing. Look up SMARTMATIC and tweet me what you think?”

Soon his company, and a competitor, Dominion — which sells its services to about 1,900 of the county governments that administer elections across America — were at the center of Mr. Giuliani’s and Sidney Powell’s theories, and on the tongues of commentators on Fox News and its farther-right rivals, Newsmax and One America News.

“Sidney Powell is out there saying that states like Texas, they turned away from Dominion machines, because really there’s only one reason why you buy a Dominion machine and you buy this Smartmatic software, so you can easily change votes,” the Newsmax host Chris Salcedo said in one typical mash-up on Nov. 18. Maria Bartiromo of Fox Business reported on Nov. 15 that “one source says that the key point to understand is that the Smartmatic system has a backdoor.”

Here’s the thing: Smartmatic wasn’t even used in the contested states. The company, now a major global player with over 300 employees, pulled out of the United States in 2007 after a controversy over its founders’ Venezuelan roots, and its only involvement this November was with a contract to help Los Angeles County run its election.

In an era of brazen political lies, Mr. Mugica has emerged as an unlikely figure with the power to put the genie back in the bottle. Last week, his lawyer sent scathing letters to the Fox News Channel, Newsmax and OAN demanding that they immediately, forcefully clear his company’s name — and that they retain documents for a planned defamation lawsuit. He has, legal experts say, an unusually strong case. And his new lawyer is J. Erik Connolly, who not coincidentally won the largest settlement in the history of American media defamation in 2017, at least $177 million, for a beef producer whose “lean finely textured beef” was described by ABC News as “pink slime.”

https://attentiontotheunseen.com/2020/12/21/the-red-slime-lawsuit-that
-could-sink-right-wing-media/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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