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I've always thought that "IOT" was just a misspelling of "idiot"

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Google outage takes down Gmail, YouTube and highlights issues in the Internet of Things

DECEMBER 16, 20209:43am
A look at what the idea of the Internet of Things is....
What is the Internet of Things?
Jack Gramenznews.com.au

... Google’s online services have been restored after a widespread outage, but despite only lasting several hours the outage was enough to expose a worrying side effect that is likely to get worse in the future.

While it was bad enough that the workspace portfolio of productivity apps including Docs, Sheets and Drive (that many businesses rely on) went down, so too did YouTube, meaning people who were prevented from working also had no way to procrastinate.

As well as what you’d typically expect to go down during a Google outage, there were also reports of other outages with “scary” implications.

Similar to what happened when Amazon’s troubled US-East-1 servers went down last month, people who had embraced the exciting future of the connected home and the Internet of Things (IoT) reported being unable to use their everyday appliances that rely on Google’s servers.

I’m sitting here in the dark in my toddler’s room because the light is controlled by @Google Home. Rethinking... a lot right now.
— Joe Brown (@joemfbrown) December 14, 2020

It's nearly midnight and I can't dim my lights because a server on the other side of the world is acting up
— David is ~Stressy~ ???????? (@Davidramble) December 14, 2020

Me (3 Weeks Ago): “I should start to automate the house” Puts in smart bulbs, smart switches, synced to our Google Home.

Today: WHY CANT I TURN ANYTHING OFF! pic.twitter.com/9jQlH6fp2E
— eddie small (@smallindiana) December 14, 2020

Google's down so our thermostat stopped working. pic.twitter.com/tz9ARAmVDc
— Ben Nizan (@BenNizan) December 14, 2020

RELATED: Aussie terrorist’s sick emails exposed

While many were mildly inconvenienced, some have said the outage was a reminder of just how “scary” it is that we rely on a handful of massive tech companies to keep the world spinning.

A fitting end to 2020: #googledown

I bet the execs at Google hate such outages, besides the obvious $ reasons: it lets everyone know just how deep Google is embedded into the internet and into our lives. And its scary.

My kitchen lights stopped working due to #googledown -_-
— Gabriel Buta (@v_gabriel_buta) December 14, 2020

Are you locked in your Google Nested home when there is a global google outage? Who controls the temperature?
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) December 14, 2020

-26 and cant control the Nest thermostat remotely because google is down. One company goes down and multiple facets of life are impacted pic.twitter.com/80uJ9zd1Hi
— A F L O (@Mr_Aflo) December 14, 2020

I know people who think I’m some kind of Luddite because I have very few internet-connected devices, still own lots of physical media, control my thermostat with my hands, don’t have a spycam doorbell... but at least all my stuff still works when Google goes down.
— Mary Jones (@tlachtga) December 14, 2020

MORE AT https://www.news.com.au/technology/online/internet/google-outage-takes
-down-gmail-youtube-and-highlights-issues-in-the-internet-of-things/news-story/2c19a8048d82b6f374b621ea3eb420ca



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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And curiously, I saw this headline on Zerohedge

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When "Smart" Homes Turn Stupid: Google Users Literally "Left In The Dark" During Monday Outage

“Thanks Google, now I can’t turn my bedroom light on.”

which alerted me to the issue, but ZH HAS to pay attention to what Gurgle and Youboob want otherwise they get demonetised (seen it happen) so when I tried to follow their link I got ...

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404

We couldn't find the content you're looking for.

That's when I started looking for non-Google dependent sources.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 2:55 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Well, I'm not dialed in at all, so I didn't even realize that a lot of people's lives were so integrated with Google like that (although, reading it comes as no surprise to me). The other day in between naps I noticed that none of my tabs with YT up were working and led to an error page with the YT logo and I think a picture of a dog or something saying that there was a problem, but by the time I woke up it was fixed and I hadn't given it a second thought.

I'm curious if you looked up "IOT" after I posted about it yesterday, or if that's just a coincidence.



What you've posted and all of those tweets are just scratching the surface of IOT today and in the near future.

The more devices you have in your home that are wireless, paired up with yor cellular phones are going to envelop you in a wireless internet everywhere you go, essentially making you a part of it yourself. Everything will be connected without any wires. Big Tech back doors will allow them to know virtually everything about you, everything you're doing, everywhere you go, etc. and they won't even be breaking any laws because you signed your privacy away several dozen times whenever you didn't bother to bring up the 50 pages of fine print before clicking "I Agree".

Your car will be connected, if it isn't already. It can be shut down remotely. No more dangerous high speed chases is the upside of it, but who's to say that somebody doesn't approve of how you're using your free speech and one day you're driving down the road and somebody else takes control of your ride and locks the doors on you and drives you off a cliff like Toonces the Driving Cat.



Get rid of that shit. As much as you possibly can within reason at least. None of it is worth the price you're paying for it.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 3:14 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And P.S.

Your Firestick (or other streaming device with a mic) is so good at what it does now that wrapping tape around it doesn't block any of the microphone's functions anymore. And it turns out that the microphone itself is housed in a metal box that's around 3/16th's of an inch, with the microphone itself being only the size of a pencil tip.

It's always listening. Always. The little button you have to press to "activate" it is just something us dumb monkeys have to press to make us think that it's not always listening.

It's actually quite easy to remove, even without the proper tools.




(It's this little thing...)


But hey... maybe there's 2 or 3 more even smaller ones on that board and by removing that mic the only thing you've actually accomplished was disabling your ability to control your TV with your voice, and who's to say there isn't another fully functional microphone in the device itself after you've removed it from the remote?

And while we're at it, who's to say that something like this isn't in every single piece of electronic equipment you buy today that has internet connectivity? The Fire Stick is only $40 for the unit and the remote, and often times you can get it on sale for $20 to $25. No reason to think that there aren't microphones hidden in your new $1,000 TV too.


And some more food for thought... If you knew about how to remove that microphone without damaging it and how to "wire" it up to your system and make it work for you, you'd be able to put it right on a wall in your house and record any conversations that took place in your home without anybody even knowing you were doing it since they wouldn't ever even know it was there unless you dragged them right up to the wall and pointed it out to them (and gave them a magnifying glass if they don't have perfect eyesight and it's not on a stark white wall). It has zero problems picking up voices with a metal box surrounding it and 15 layers of electric tape wrapped around the hole in the remote. Imagine what it can do completely unobstructed.

It would need a power source, of course, but if you were going to that much trouble I'm sure you could put the battery behind the drywall if you were doing a remodel of a room. Otherwise, you could really just put it anywhere and it will pick up audio. Hook a battery up to it and throw it behind some old dusty books on a bookshelf.


What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I didn't see your reference to IOT (Where is it?) so my post was completely coincidental.

But what idiot ties their lightbulbs, refrigerators, HOME SECURITY SYSTEM, BABY MONITOR, BANKING, and television to "the cloud"? Heck, I do my best to avoid that even on my cellphone ... There are some apps LIKE "calendar" that won't work unless you store your data on "the cloud". I don't use cloud-based apps. I know my phone is as open as a wide-open barn door so I NEVER do anything involving money on it, and I don't do email on it. I don't even keep the names of my nearest and dearest in my list of contacts. I assume that everything that's on my phone has been "scraped" at one time or another...

Seriously. I just don't understand people. Is it SO inconvenient to use a light switch?

This is just a miniature example of what happens when you try to "centralize" everything, and make "the government" or "the corporation" responsible for "taking care" of you. The Soviet Union tried that, and it failed. We shouldn't be heading down that same path because we will live to regret it.

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:56 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't see your reference to IOT (Where is it?) so my post was completely coincidental.



http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62934&mid=11205
12#1120512


Pretty crazy since I've never talked about IOT before here and I only made that post a day and a half before you made this thread.



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But what idiot ties their lightbulbs, refrigerators, HOME SECURITY SYSTEM, BABY MONITOR, BANKING, and television to "the cloud"? Heck, I do my best to avoid that even on my cellphone ... There are some apps LIKE "calendar" that won't work unless you store your data on "the cloud". I don't use cloud-based apps. I know my phone is as open as a wide-open barn door so I NEVER do anything involving money on it, and I don't do email on it. I don't even keep the names of my nearest and dearest in my list of contacts. I assume that everything that's on my phone has been "scraped" at one time or another...


The problem is, it's not about being an idiot or not. There are a lot of smart people who use this stuff. Certainly a lot of college educated people use it since only recently the prohibitive costs that used to be a barrier to entry have fallen pretty sharply.

All marketing and most coverage of these things tout all of the (obvious) benefits to using the new tech, but zero marketing points out the negatives, and the few "journalists" that cover any of easily provable bad things that are coming our way if we continue down this path are just called conspiracy theorists or otherwise dismissed.

It was actually a genius idea to make the Phone the centerpiece of all of this technology. While having a cell phone was either a business requirement for some, or just a cool convenience that fairly wealthy people had 25+ years back, we've now decided as a society that you're a bad parent if your kid doesn't have one with the GPS enabled.

Fear and shame, just like anything else.

And no matter how smart any of these kids are, they're growing up in this world. The older we are right now, the easier it is to live the rest of our lives without all of it. But they'll grow up with it and it will not only all be natural to them, but they'll feel all the peer pressure to keep up with it for the rest of their lives too.

(Because, honestly, even after all these years I still remember how difficult it was to deal with peer pressure as a kid in the 90's, and I can't imagine that the internet did anything but magnify that by about 1000 times. And besides... If you can forget about all of the terrible stuff that can be done with this tech, you have to admit that it all is very, very cool.)

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Seriously. I just don't understand people. Is it SO inconvenient to use a light switch?

This is just a miniature example of what happens when you try to "centralize" everything, and make "the government" or "the corporation" responsible for "taking care" of you. The Soviet Union tried that, and it failed. We shouldn't be heading down that same path because we will live to regret it.




Every aspect of our lives right now is headed down that path. We shouldn't expect people's attitudes toward tech to be any different.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


And when your blender and smoothie maker need online connectivity to operate, the likelihood that they're doing a lot more than blending your food and making smoothies is extremely high. Like 100% high.




Boy. I can't wait until my toilet tells me everything that's wrong with my diet....

And then forwards that information on to Umbrella Corp. so I get that notification that my health insurance premiums are either going to be dropped or increased by 500% unless I've made the appropriate changes to my diet before the policy is up.


They'll start putting that monitoring system in your house by offering you a 20% discount on your health insurance premiums and selling you on the idea that knowing exactly what you're doing wrong will allow you to make yourself better through knowledge.

Five, maybe ten years later... you won't even be able to buy a new toilet at Home Depot that doesn't have its own MAC address.

The next step would be to charge you a tax per flush if the monitoring system isn't working for any reason while you flush your waste down the toilet. (100% of this tax will go toward saving the environment, of course )

One day you'll wake up and will be a criminal offense to remove or otherwise disable this monitoring system.



What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:02 PM

THG


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
I think this needs its own thread. SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing.

Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.




In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”



All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.


The men behind zero hedge

Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director

Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008

Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.

“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”

In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.

Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.

“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.

The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html

According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.

The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”

The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”





T


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Wednesday, December 16, 2020 12:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You don't have enough threads to stink up with your bullshit Ted?

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:08 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Incapable of Thought.

The OP story seems to confirm this.

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Friday, December 18, 2020 2:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
I think this needs its own thread. SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing.

Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.




In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”



All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.


The men behind zero hedge

Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director

Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008

Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.

“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”

In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”

Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.

Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.

“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.

The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html

According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.

The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”

The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”





T


I got the story from an AUSTRALIAN website. Didn't you notice the .au in the website address? That's what that means.

All I got from ZH, as I posted was "Error 404 Content Not Found"


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