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Originally posted by second:
GOP senator blocks bill for $1,200 stimulus checks for second time on Friday — this time when it was offered by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Sanders said it was “comical that suddenly our Republican friends once again discover that we have a deficit.”

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) aligned himself with Sanders on Friday. “The quickest way to get money into the pockets of the American people is to send some of their tax dollars right back where they came from. So let's step up the plate. ... I support Senator Sanders's request fully and hope the Senate will consent,” Schumer said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/530913-gop-senator-blocks-bill-for
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Speaking of tax dollars...

If they ever do get around to sending out a 2nd round of stimulus checks, they should immediately be automatically applied to anyone's 2020 taxes due in April if they were stupid enough to defer their taxes.

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Originally posted by second:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Speaking of tax dollars...

If they ever do get around to sending out a 2nd round of stimulus checks, they should immediately be automatically applied to anyone's 2020 taxes due in April if they were stupid enough to defer their taxes.

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Why not have the entire stimulus check automatically applied to anyone's 2020 and 2021 and 2022 and 2023, etc. taxes? That would be the simplest way. No envelopes, postage, and paper checks. No direct deposit into bank accounts. No covid-19 relief. Nothing except the warm and fuzzy feeling the needy get knowing that their taxes are prepaid before the income is earned.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And I don't want to hear any fucking whining by people who bought a bunch of shit they didn't need this year without paying any taxes on it when that time comes to pay.

Marcos is already preemptively (and falsely) blaming that one on Trump.

You're already suggesting that people who were intelligent enough to pay their taxes should be penalized and the government should forgive those taxes to people who didn't pay them next year, all the while (truthfully) saying that all of the extra money given for unemployment raised quite a few working people out of poverty.

The reason why your argument doesn't hold water is that these people who were in poverty paid their taxes before they were out of poverty and had no reason not to pay their taxes this year other than the fact that Trump and the Media told them that they had the option not to (an option which was always an option available to them).

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Originally posted by second:
6ix, you are boss Ebenezer Scrooge

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P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).

It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
And BTW... where do you think this magic money comes from, dipshit?

I want you to explain it in detail where the money comes from.

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P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).

It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.

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Actually, I think I just gave up because you - like FIFI lately - are just too stupid or too stubborn or too determined to be a contrary a-hole to waste much time on.

In this case, I say go for it 6ForBrains - roll the dice:

https://www.communitytax.com/resource-center/tax-scams/false-deduction
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"Penalties for Claiming False Dependents
When you knowingly claim a false dependent on your taxes, you risk sanctions and a potential audit from the IRS. Claiming false deductions like dependents is considered tax evasion and is, therefore, a felony with potentially severe criminal penalties. However, the IRS will only consider alleging a malicious dependent fraud if the taxpayer demonstrated willfulness—meaning that you have to be aware of your crime to be charged. Without the intention, the offense is considered negligence. There are still penalties for neglect; it’s your responsibility to know the rules, but it’s not a crime.

Dependents can make you eligible for other forms of tax breaks in addition to the initial reduction. You can receive tax credits for education expenses, medical bills, and childcare—this is why claiming false deductions for a dependent is so prevalent. If the IRS accuses you of claiming a false dependent, you will be required to pay the full amount you avoided by doing so. In addition to the total amount, you will be required to pay a .5% late fee for the unpaid amount each month that had passed since the tax was due."

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:


You really don't know how banks work, do you?

You deposit 1M, the banks loan out 25M. In other words, they get to create money out of thin air, then charge you extra of your real earned money in order to borrow it.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/capitalrequirement.asp

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When the bank only has $40,000 in the safe, it can certainly get into trouble if depositors want their $1 million back today...

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Can too big to fail banks really take your money if things go sour and leave you screwed without access to your cash?
The short answer: without the proper regulation in place (which is currently not in place), is: YES.

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Under conditions of financial strain, customers and depositors who are storing assets in a bank are “creditors” who can immediately be regarded as legitimate bank “shareholders.”
This means that a large portion of their stored funds can be converted into bank equity. To be clear, depositor funds and assets can be legally confiscated by the bank to maintain its solvency.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second doesn't know shit about how anything works.

Why would banks be any different?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Dude. You don't have any money.

Nobody cares.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
P.P.S. I'm preempting any know it alls like Cap'n who are going to say that putting a false number of dependents on your W4 is illegal. (Because we've argued about this before, and he's stupid and will have no doubt forgotten that I won that argument).

It's not illegal. But not paying your taxes in full and on time will lead to fines and penalties and can snowball into a much worse situation. This is ill-advised for most people since they suck with money.

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Dude. You don't have any money.

Nobody cares.

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Half of the households in America have little or no net worth, with most what they have tied up in their house:

Bottom 10% have $0.00 or less.
Bottom 20%? $6,368.35 or less.
Bottom 30%? $23,695.62 or less.
Bottom 40%? $67,469.07 or less.
Bottom 50%? $121,411.37 or less.
https://dqydj.com/average-median-top-net-worth-percentiles/

How did half the households end up this way?

By thinking they know more than they really do about money.

They are the same as 6ix -- bragging about the crappy place they live in and what little they know about money and unable to quickly learn more.

That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.

I know this from a small sample in Texas of 5 households I've poured $1,634,936 into as of Dec 1, 2020. All have pissed the money away, except for one, who I bailed out with a $5,500 gift, not a loan, at Thanksgiving before the JSC Federal Credit Union takes action. That household got $413,760 in cash gifts from me, but they have a net worth I estimate of under $100,000. None of the five families understand they are poor because they waste too much.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.

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That's why the bottom 50% need bailing out with Covid-19 relief.

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No, it's because "Top 1% Of U.S. Households Hold 15 Times More Wealth Than Bottom 50% Combined".

Seriously dooodo - the bottom 50% could not POSSIBLY waste that much money. The fact is, they're not earning enough. (And the statistic no one provides is the mode ... becasue that would be too stark a look at the US economy and how it doesn't work for the average person.)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'd say it's probably a little of Column A and a little of Column B...

Yes. A majority of Americans are absolutely terrible with money.

Yes. The likelihood of Americans being terrible with money grows as they have access to more of it.

This isn't entirely their fault though. Our school systems are designed to churn out millions of idiots who can't even wipe their own asses.

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I'd say it's probably a little of Column A and a little of Column B...

Yes. A majority of Americans are absolutely terrible with money.

Yes. The likelihood of Americans being terrible with money grows as they have access to more of it.

This isn't entirely their fault though. Our school systems are designed to churn out millions of idiots who can't even wipe their own asses.

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I went back and forth about telling you how idiotic Trump voters are with money. I'll give you one super-compressed story: a Trumpkin came to me for advise about a money making scheme. I showed him with articles and calculations that it will fail. I spent many more hours thinking about his plan and doing research than he did. What was the scheme? He buys four new cars and loans them to Uber drivers in exchange for a cut of their earnings. He gets extra-income without work, the drivers prosper, everybody is better off than before. Typical American dream. It didn't work out that way. There were a thousand twists and turns in this story back in 2019 before Covid-19, but the Repo Man eventually towed away the cars, ending the story. Now there is only debt and sorrow where once there were dreams of an easier life. The smarter Trumpkins can learn the hard way. The others? They never learn.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Trump threatens to torpedo COVID relief with new demands, requests $2,000 stimulus checks

Suddenly demanding changes fellow Republicans have opposed.

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Trump sure does like drama, doesn't he? He sure hates planning ahead, doesn't he? His voters are no different. They love the emotional highs in life. They hate planning ahead to avoid predictable dramatic lows. That's why their lives and Trump's Presidency are such messes.

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I had one of those conversations today with a Trump voter who desperately needs Covid-19 relief and didn’t read the book “Don’t Get Taken Every Time”. We talked about cars. I gave him a paperback, which he won’t read - www.amazon.com/Remar-Sutton/e/B001ITZ07U

I let him talk and talk and show me the dealership papers signed two years ago. He now can’t afford the car, but if he stops payment his son can’t get to a job in Louisiana. This is about the only things I had to say before writing a check:

Mac Haik Toyota did this to you?

You paid $2,100 for a MasterTech warranty. That was money wasted.

16.89%? That is high interest.

You could have almost gotten a brand new Rav4 for what you paid on a used one with 41,000 miles.

www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2021/toyota/rav4
www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/new-cars/2020/toyota/rav4

The Trump voter thinks it’s bad luck he got in trouble about the car. I think it’s not his luck is bad.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I could live off of what most jokers pay in interest every month.

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I could live off of what most jokers pay in interest every month.

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I believe most Trump voters could stabilize their lives and calm their frenzied minds by learning from "The Tightwad Gazette". Then they won't worry so much about Covid-19 Relief. But that's as unlikely as them practicing meditation or voting Democrat.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Why are you pretending that Democrat voters aren't equally worrying about Covid relief right now?

You do realize that a majority of Democrat voters, particularly in Urban areas, were already on various government programs before 2020 happened, don't you?

Hell... Your own Lefty Media makes a point of writing stories about how they're the ones disproportionately hit by all of this every day.



Just because I don't worry about it, I'm not going to sit here and say that only one side or the other is worried about where their meal is coming from.

I suggest that you do the same, if you want to learn anything about how to empathize with others. Life in 2020 sucks for almost everybody right now.


They broke the mold when they made me. I fully recognize this. If you want to go on pretending that the stories you tell about yourself here are true, you're going to have to stop applying the story of that life to everybody else in the country, because your (very likely fictional) character is far from the norm as well.

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The only Democrats I know who are desperately for Covid-19 Relief to pass are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but I do know hundreds of Trump voters who need that money.

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The only Democrats I know who are desperately for Covid-19 Relief to pass are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, but I do know hundreds of Trump voters who need that money.

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First off, that's not a sentence.

Second... For a dude who hates Republicans so much he fires people that don't agree with him, you sure do surround yourself with a lot of them.

Seriously. Fuck off man.

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If you want to see that stinginess in real life, go to any Trump voter, show them you are starving, and ask for money. Ask for $600. Ask for $2,000. The answer will be "Hell NO!" unless you ask for tiny sums such as $1 or $5 or $20.

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If you want to see that stinginess in real life, go to any Trump voter, show them you are starving, and ask for money. Ask for $600. Ask for $2,000. The answer will be "Hell NO!" unless you ask for tiny sums such as $1 or $5 or $20.

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Fuck off dude. You still haven't given $1 out of your hundreds of millions of Trump tax cuts to Haken for his website you use every day.

Everything you say is a lie.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Why on earth would I do that?

Feel free to give $600 on my behalf to the charity of your choice out of those hundreds of millions of Trump tax breaks you got.

You're welcome.

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