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Saturday, December 19, 2020 5:16 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News to Americans For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. John Hudson July 14, 2013, 7:06 PM For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government’s mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts. So what just happened? Until this month, a vast ocean of U.S. programming produced by the Broadcasting Board of Governors such as Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks could only be viewed or listened to at broadcast quality in foreign countries. The programming varies in tone and quality, but its breadth is vast: It’s viewed in more than 100 countries in 61 languages. The topics covered include human rights abuses in Iran, self-immolation in Tibet, human trafficking across Asia, and on-the-ground reporting in Egypt and Iraq. The restriction of these broadcasts was due to the Smith-Mundt Act, a long-standing piece of legislation that has been amended numerous times over the years, perhaps most consequentially by Arkansas Senator J. William Fulbright. In the 1970s, Fulbright was no friend of VOA and Radio Free Europe, and moved to restrict them from domestic distribution, saying they "should be given the opportunity to take their rightful place in the graveyard of Cold War relics." Fulbright’s amendment to Smith-Mundt was bolstered in 1985 by Nebraska Senator Edward Zorinsky, who argued that such "propaganda" should be kept out of America as to distinguish the U.S. "from the Soviet Union where domestic propaganda is a principal government activity." Zorinsky and Fulbright sold their amendments on sensible rhetoric: American taxpayers shouldn’t be funding propaganda for American audiences. So did Congress just tear down the American public’s last defense against domestic propaganda? BBG spokeswoman Lynne Weil insists BBG is not a propaganda outlet, and its flagship services such as VOA "present fair and accurate news."
Quote: "They don’t shy away from stories that don’t shed the best light on the United States," she told The Cable. She pointed to the charters of VOA and RFE: "Our journalists provide what many people cannot get locally: uncensored news, responsible discussion, and open debate." A former U.S. government source with knowledge of the BBG says the organization is no Pravda, but it does advance U.S. interests in more subtle ways. In Somalia, for instance, VOA serves as counterprogramming to outlets peddling anti-American or jihadist sentiment. "Somalis have three options for news," the source said, "word of mouth, al-Shabab, or VOA Somalia." This partially explains the push to allow BBG broadcasts on local radio stations in the United States. The agency wants to reach diaspora communities, such as St. Paul, Minnesota’s significant Somali expat community. "Those people can get al-Shabab, they can get Russia Today, but they couldn’t get access to their taxpayer-funded news sources like VOA Somalia," the source said. "It was silly." Lynne added that the reform has a transparency benefit as well. "Now Americans will be able to know more about what they are paying for with their tax dollars — greater transparency is a win-win for all involved," she said. And so with that we have the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012, which passed as part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, and went into effect this month. But if anyone needed a reminder of the dangers of domestic propaganda efforts, the past 12 months provided ample reasons. Last year, two USA Today journalists were ensnared in a propaganda campaign after reporting about millions of dollars in back taxes owed by the Pentagon’s top propaganda contractor in Afghanistan. Eventually, one of the co-owners of the firm confessed to creating phony websites and Twitter accounts to smear the journalists anonymously. Additionally, just this month, the Washington Post exposed a counter-propaganda program by the Pentagon that recommended posting comments on a U.S. website run by a Somali expat with readers opposing al-Shabab. "Today, the military is more focused on manipulating news and commentary on the Internet, especially social media, by posting material and images without necessarily claiming ownership," reported the Post.
Quote: But for BBG officials, the references to Pentagon propaganda efforts are nauseating, particularly because the Smith-Mundt Act never had anything to do with regulating the Pentagon, a fact that was misunderstood in media reports in the run-up to the passage of new Smith-Mundt reforms in January. One example included a report by the late BuzzFeed reporter Michael Hastings, who suggested that the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act would open the door to Pentagon propaganda of U.S. audiences. In fact, as amended in 1987, the act only covers portions of the State Department engaged in public diplomacy abroad (i.e. the public diplomacy section of the "R" bureau, and the Broadcasting Board of Governors.) But the news circulated regardless, much to the displeasure of Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX), a sponsor of the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act of 2012. "To me, it’s a fascinating case study in how one blogger was pretty sloppy, not understanding the issue and then it got picked up by Politico‘s Playbook, and you had one level of sloppiness on top of another," Thornberry told The Cable last May. "And once something sensational gets out there, it just spreads like wildfire." That of course doesn’t leave the BBG off the hook if its content smacks of agitprop. But now that its materials are allowed to be broadcast by local radio stations and TV networks, they won’t be a complete mystery to Americans. "Previously, the legislation had the effect of clouding and hiding this stuff," the former U.S. official told The Cable. "Now we’ll have a better sense: Gee some of this stuff is really good. Or gee some of this stuff is really bad. At least we’ll know now."
Saturday, December 19, 2020 6:36 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Sunday, December 20, 2020 3:26 PM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, December 20, 2020 4:42 PM
Monday, December 21, 2020 12:40 AM
WISHIMAY
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: That's not news to us people who live in the US and are not Russian trolls like you.
Monday, December 21, 2020 2:04 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, December 21, 2020 2:21 AM
Quote: SIX: They're not from Russia, you inbred fuck.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:08 AM
Quote: Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:05 AM
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 1:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake #WEARAMASK
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 9:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Well, with Trump out of the picture, or at least soon-to-be, what will their obsessions and delusions revolve around NOW?
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 12:54 PM
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Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by WISHIMAY: Sometimes "Building a life on hate" also means "building a life on a principle". I hate child molesters. I hate traitors. I hate the lying pieces of shit that make up the GOP.... Pretty good use of my hate. It don't matter where they post from, they still need to be taken to a nice dark, cold, prison cell and left there.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:28 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Ever wonder why there are so many more LIES in the M$M and corporate social media than before? (eg RUSSIA!RUSSIA! and variations thereof?) Well, it used to be illegal for the CIA to directly give stories to USA media, and so the CIA had to use several workrounds ... plant stories in foreign media for example, that the USA press could then report on. HOWEVER, in 2013 (under Obama, in case you weren't keeping track) ...
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 3:01 PM
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: THUGGER, you're another person who's built your personality and your life on hate.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 7:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: and he's been wanting to get back in ever since, where he will be told when, where, how, why, and what to think and do.
Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:52 PM
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 1:47 AM
Quote:SIGNYM: and he's been wanting to get back in ever since, where he will be told when, where, how, why, and what to think and do. WISHY: THEY THINK EVERYONE WANTS TO BE TOLD WHAT TO DO
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 11:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, kind of like your relationship with your husband, except you're not having sex with THUGR. Or, maybe you are. Who knows?
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 2:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Yanno, kind of like your relationship with your husband, except you're not having sex with THUGR. Or, maybe you are. Who knows? Nah... This is the only thing Nilbog is fucking... What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:16 PM
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 3:37 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. KIKI: It has finally trickled into my consciousness that there are indeed people who build their personalities and lives on hate. SIGNY: Well, with Trump out of the picture, or at least soon-to-be, what will their obsessions and delusions revolve around NOW? Russia? China? Terrorists? The ever-favorite, and virtually non-existent "fascists"? (At least, as they picture them.) Space aliens? The "axis of evil"? The plague? Trumpists? It will be interesting to see what hysteria they latch onto next. Or, more likely, what hysteria the M$M will implant in their brains next. It'll be fun to speculate what the Fickle Finger of Fate will point to! (I have a guess but I'll post about that later!)
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 4:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: THUGGER, you're another person who's built your personality and your life on hate. THUGR'S problem is that he's too stupid to think for himself. He flunked out of the army (which was the high point of his life) and he's been wanting to get back in ever since, where he will be told when, where, how, why, and what to think and do.
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. KIKI: It has finally trickled into my consciousness that there are indeed people who build their personalities and lives on hate. SIGNY: Well, with Trump out of the picture, or at least soon-to-be, what will their obsessions and delusions revolve around NOW? Russia? China? Terrorists? The ever-favorite, and virtually non-existent "fascists"? (At least, as they picture them.) The "axis of evil"? The plague? Trumpists?
Quote:SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. KIKI: It has finally trickled into my consciousness that there are indeed people who build their personalities and lives on hate. SIGNY: Well, with Trump out of the picture, or at least soon-to-be, what will their obsessions and delusions revolve around NOW? Russia? China? Terrorists? The ever-favorite, and virtually non-existent "fascists"? (At least, as they picture them.) The "axis of evil"? The plague? Trumpists?
Wednesday, December 23, 2020 6:05 PM
Quote:SIGNYM: Well, now they can't hate Trump so they have to make up something else to excuse their bad behavior. Hate-filled people will always find a "reason" to hate. KIKI: It has finally trickled into my consciousness that there are indeed people who build their personalities and lives on hate. SIGNY: Well, with Trump out of the picture, or at least soon-to-be, what will their obsessions and delusions revolve around NOW? Russia? China? Terrorists? The ever-favorite, and virtually non-existent "fascists"? (At least, as they picture them.) The "axis of evil"? The plague? Trumpists? THUGR: Of course I dislike those on your list at this point in time. That fact that you don't
Quote: is the larger point. Oh, I removed space aliens from your list because I don't know any. It worries me to think you believe you do.
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JAYNEZTOWN
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Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: ‘Sounds about Right’: Ex-CIA Chief Michael Hayden Implies Trump Should Be Executed for Taking Classified Docs https://news.yahoo.com/sounds-ex-cia-chief-michael-194411070.html
Sunday, February 26, 2023 9:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Pretty stupid thing for a spook to say.
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