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Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say

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Monday, January 4, 2021 7:20 PM

SIGNYM

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Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say
By Allen Zhong
January 4, 2021 Updated: January 4, 2021

Pennsylvania election data shows that over 432,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump during the November election, data scientists say.

According to an analysis by the Data Integrity Group, obtained exclusively by The Epoch Times, votes for Trump—from both Election Day and mail-in ballots—were removed from the totals in at least 15 counties.

Time-series election data shows Trump’s votes decrementing in various counties at numerous time points instead of increasing as would be expected under normal circumstances.

The group said that Election Day vote removals happened during the vote tabulation process in at least 15 counties, including Lehigh County, Chester County, Allegheny County, Armstrong County, Westmoreland County, Northampton County, Delaware County, Montgomery County, Lackawanna County, Dauphin County, Pike County, Carbon County, Washington County, Erie County, and Luzerne County.

Meanwhile, absentee vote removals happened in Allegheny County, Chester County, and Lehigh County.

At least 432,116 votes—213,707 election day votes and 218,409 absentee votes—were removed in total.

“There were vote movements across all candidates. However, we did not see the same type of negative decrements to any of the [other] candidates that we saw with President Trump’s tallies, and they happened repeatedly with no explanation,” Lynda McLaughlin, a member of the group, told The Epoch Times.

The Pennsylvania Secretary of State’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment from The Epoch Times.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 7:53 PM

THG


No, comrade Polish Russian collaborator Sig, they are not. Nuts, Russian collaborator Sig are saying it. Of which you are one. Two days until you, yours and Trump suffer another loss. You must be tired of all this losing.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say
By Allen Zhong
January 4, 2021 Updated: January 4, 2021

Pennsylvania election data shows that over 432,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump during the November election, data scientists say.

According to an analysis by the Data Integrity Group, obtained exclusively by The Epoch Times, votes for Trump—from both Election Day and mail-in ballots—were removed from the totals in at least 15 counties.

Time-series election data shows Trump’s votes decrementing in various counties at numerous time points instead of increasing as would be expected under normal circumstances.

The group said that Election Day vote removals happened during the vote tabulation process in at least 15 counties, including Lehigh County, Chester County, Allegheny County, Armstrong County, Westmoreland County, Northampton County, Delaware County, Montgomery County, Lackawanna County, Dauphin County, Pike County, Carbon County, Washington County, Erie County, and Luzerne County.

Meanwhile, absentee vote removals happened in Allegheny County, Chester County, and Lehigh County.

At least 432,116 votes—213,707 election day votes and 218,409 absentee votes—were removed in total.

“There were vote movements across all candidates. However, we did not see the same type of negative decrements to any of the [other] candidates that we saw with President Trump’s tallies, and they happened repeatedly with no explanation,” Lynda McLaughlin, a member of the group, told The Epoch Times.

The Pennsylvania Secretary of State’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment from The Epoch Times.

MORE AT https://m.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-over-432000-votes-removed-from-t
rump-in-pennsylvania-data-scientists-say_3642202.html




Let's see the receipts.

We already know it happened on a massive scale. Let's finally see the proof that even Maddow and Olbermann can't refute.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:54 PM

SIGNYM

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What I want to know is what the comparison is to Biden's* vote tally. Does his go down, too?

If so, by how much, and why? If you have a reliable vote counting mechanism decrements should happen only rarely.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:56 PM

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If they happen at all there should be a good goddamned reason for each and every one.

There needs to be absolute full transparency at this point. Otherwise TPTB shouldn't ever expect people to have any faith in the election process again.

Maybe that's their end goal though. Who knows.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 8:59 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they happen at all there should be a good goddamned reason for each and every one.

There needs to be absolute full transparency at this point. Otherwise TPTB shouldn't ever expect people to have any faith in the election process again.

Maybe that's their end goal though. Who knows.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

I agree. But don't expect transparency! TPTB want everything as murky as possible.

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I grew up in Illinois.

I already know the drill.



The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 9:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?


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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?

This changes everything! Until some kind of committee looks into the election process and sorted out who won to the liking of Signym, 1kiki, and 6ixStringJack, the ONLY proper action is to let Donald Trump remain President. It would be a travesty of injustice if Biden* is sworn in as President only to have positive proof that Trump actually won the election. It would be much better to let Trump stay a few months longer, but no more than 18 to 48 months. That will give the committee plenty of time, yet not too much, to investigate the election.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 4, 2021 10:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?/b]



Simple. They're in on it.

All of the Democrats who remain on this board voted for and are cheering for the same thing I used to think we were fighting against 15 years ago.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?



Simple. They're in on it.

All of the Democrats who remain on this board voted for and are cheering for the same thing I used to think we were fighting against 15 years ago.

I really am "calling for a thorough look". Look all you want. When Lincoln was elected, the people who would eventually join the Confederacy did not believe the results because how could Lincoln, who wasn't even allowed on the ballot in 10 Southern states, win? I guess the Civil War could have been avoided if only all parties had called for a thorough look into the details of counting the votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, January 4, 2021 11:16 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?



Simple. They're in on it.

All of the Democrats who remain on this board voted for and are cheering for the same thing I used to think we were fighting against 15 years ago.

I really am "calling for a thorough look". Look all you want. When Lincoln was elected, the people who would eventually join the Confederacy did not believe the results because how could Lincoln, who wasn't even allowed on the ballot in 10 Southern states, win? I guess the Civil War could have been avoided if only all parties had called for a thorough look into the details of counting the votes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1860_United_States_presidential_election

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly




I'm not even talking about the cheating here.

You wanting Biden* to run the country is no different than you wanting GWB to run the country again.

You asked for it, the Establishment cheated and gave it to you.

Enjoy the next four years of new wars without congressional approval and getting nothing that you thought you had voted for.




Maybe one day you might open your eyes and look back fondly on the four years of 2016 to 2020 as the only four years of the millennium where we weren't getting 24/7 war coverage and stories about Muslims blowing shit up all around the world, and you'll finally recognize that without things like that to be reporting on the only thing they had to sell boner pills, cell phone plans and car insurance was telling lies about and taking all of Trump's quotes out of context.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Monday, January 4, 2021 11:48 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm not even talking about the cheating here.

You wanting Biden* to run the country is no different than you wanting GWB to run the country again.

You asked for it, the Establishment cheated and gave it to you.

Enjoy the next four years of new wars without congressional approval and getting nothing that you thought you had voted for.

You might recall that GWB was governor of Texas before he was President. While governor, his main distinction was executing innocent prisoners when he should have been pardoning them. It was no surprise to me when GWB's Army tortured and executed prisoners whenever and wherever they could. I've got a thing about the Army doing that (long and harrowing old solder's story about where that came from) but I loved when GWB directed tax cuts to me. On the balance, I prefer when Republicans lose Presidential elections.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 12:27 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

What I don't understand is why people from neither party are calling for a thorough look. And while Democrats* just want to take the presidency and run, they'd be FAR better off at least LOOKING like they want to validate the election process. But what do republicans have to lose?




Is it brain damage that prevent some from understanding both parties did take a good look. Trump lost 60 court cases regarding the election, 60. Let me say that again. Trump lost 60 court cases regarding this election. He won none. I'd say that's taking a better than good look.

The one court case his people say he did win was not because he actually got something changed. Or even got something he needed. It was because he wanted something done concerning voters that was already being done by the state. It was in Pennsylvania. So the courts said OK. Pennsylvania said sure, where already doing that. We always do that.

In all these cases he was basically laughed out of court. Why, because he is full of shit. All his lawyers offered up to the courts as evidence was conjecture. Opinions and conclusions formed on the basis of incomplete information. In other words spin, fake news. In his call to Georgia he said to the governor rumor has it, or I heard, as though that was as good as facts. They presented no facts no evidence. Georgia counted their vote 3 times. Once, they did a hand count. Trump is still claiming victory. He is sick. Those who believe him are sick, illiterate or just plain ill-informed.

You people look like absolute morons. Your presence here resembles that of children who never grew up. You come across as not to be believed or given serious thought.

Shoo

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:13 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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This changes everything! Until some kind of committee looks into the election process and sorted out who won to the liking of Signym, 1kiki, and 6ixStringJack, the ONLY proper action is to let Donald Trump remain President. It would be a travesty of injustice if Biden* is sworn in as President only to have positive proof that Trump actually won the election.
I know you've completely lost any argument when you have to make shit up. I never posted anything like that and I never will.

And, just like CC, you seem to be afraid of neutral academics conducting a thorough, unbiased, complete examination of the election, and having everyone see whatever results they might produce. And if they bless it then everything is validated. But if they don't - like they didn't in 2004 - then there's a lot of issues that need fixing.

Right?

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 2:57 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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This changes everything! Until some kind of committee looks into the election process and sorted out who won to the liking of Signym, 1kiki, and 6ixStringJack, the ONLY proper action is to let Donald Trump remain President. It would be a travesty of injustice if Biden* is sworn in as President only to have positive proof that Trump actually won the election.
I know you've completely lost any argument when you have to make shit up. I never posted anything like that and I never will.

And, just like CC, you seem to be afraid of neutral academics conducting a thorough, unbiased, complete examination of the election, and having everyone see whatever results they might produce. And if they bless it then everything is validated. But if they don't - like they didn't in 2004 - then there's a lot of issues that need fixing.

Right?

Wrong! Anybody who wants to "exam" the Trump/Biden/Jorgensen/Hawkins/La Riva/De La Fuente/Blankenship election, go ahead. While you are at it, examine more than one Presidential election in one year. Look backwards as far as you can. Look at as many elections and third party candidates as you have time for. But your answers aren't meaningful if you aren't believed, which means you need to think about what will follow after you collected all your data and come to all your conclusions. What will you do if the "wrong" President was elected in, say, 1960 or 2020? Do nothing? Do something? Run your mouth pointlessly about the unfairness of the Universe toward fat dumb fucker Trump?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
#Results_by_state


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 3:25 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



"While you are at it, examine more than one Presidential election in one year."

While academics can do a statistical look-back where there's sufficient data, that's all they can do.

Because are the ballots still available for more than 1 year? Computer codes still able to be examined? Computer memories able to be queried? And so on.

The more you argue against what should be a no-brainer - ferreting out the facts of the 2020 election, whatever they may be - the more you look like you're terrified of them.


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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 8:52 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"While you are at it, examine more than one Presidential election in one year."

While academics can do a statistical look-back where there's sufficient data, that's all they can do.

Because are the ballots still available for more than 1 year? Computer codes still able to be examined? Computer memories able to be queried? And so on.

The more you argue against what should be a no-brainer - ferreting out the facts of the 2020 election, whatever they may be - the more you look like you're terrified of them.

I am terrified of counting votes, but I'm not a graduate student in, which discipline would it be, political science? Maybe the legislature of Pennsylvania could pass some law making the job easier for students at Universities to analyze the voting machines and the paper ballots after an election but the analysis needs to be done for a higher purpose than to get a degree. What purpose? Telling the legislature how to improve the voting systems in each county of Pennsylvania. Every county has a different system run by people with different motivations.

A better voting system in Pennsylvania requires spending money at the county level. For an example that is NOT about voting, statistics don't stop deaths from car accidents. You can count as much as you want and place a pin in a map at the location of every road death, but that won't actually reduce the death toll in Pennsylvania. The county governments have got to spend money on better traffic enforcement and safer roads. While they are at it, spend money on their voting systems to make them less prone to arguments about cheating.

Crash Facts & Statistics
https://www.penndot.gov/TravelInPA/Safety/pages/crash-facts-and-statis
tics.aspx


Pennsylvania Crash Information Tool
https://crashinfo.penndot.gov/PCIT/welcome.html

Imagine having reports on VOTING accidents in Pennsylvania:
In 2019, there were 125,267 reportable traffic crashes in Pennsylvania. These crashes claimed the lives of 1,059 people and injured another 76,243 people. To add some perspective, the 2019 total of reportable traffic crashes is the eighth lowest total since 1950 when 113,748 crashes were reported.
https://www.penndot.gov/TravelInPA/Safety/Documents/2019_CFB_linked.pd
f


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:30 AM

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Epoch Times. Epically fake news.

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/amp/



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:38 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Epoch Times. Epically fake news.

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/amp/

This is interesting info from 'media bias fact check': On December 20, 2019, it was reported that Facebook took down more than 600 accounts connected to The Epoch Times. According to an NBC News report “The network was called ‘The BL’ and was run by Vietnamese users posing as Americans, using fake photos generated by algorithms to simulate real identities. The Epoch Media group, which pushes a variety of pro-Trump conspiracy theories, spent $9.5 million on ads to spread content through the now-suspended pages and groups.”

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:43 AM

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The Epoch Times is a far-right[12] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement, based in Midtown Manhattan.[17] The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[18] The Epoch Times has websites accessible from 35 countries[19] but is blocked in mainland China.[19]

The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[20] promotes far-right politicians in Europe,[3][5] and backs President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[21] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign.[18][22][23] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.[18][24][25] The organization frequently promotes other Falun Gong affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company, Shen Yun.[14][21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

This is what Russian trolls and American idiots think is a reliable news source. It's absolute shit. Pure propaganda.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:50 AM

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The Epoch Times is a far-right[12] international multi-language newspaper and media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement, based in Midtown Manhattan.[17] The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.[18] The Epoch Times has websites accessible from 35 countries[19] but is blocked in mainland China.[19]

The Epoch Times opposes the Chinese Communist Party,[20] promotes far-right politicians in Europe,[3][5] and backs President Donald Trump in the U.S.;[21] a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign.[18][22][23] The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccination propaganda.[18][24][25] The organization frequently promotes other Falun Gong affiliated groups, such as the performing arts company, Shen Yun.[14][21]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

This is what Russian trolls and American idiots think is a reliable news source. It's absolute shit. Pure propaganda.





Marcos prefers to get his news from multi-national corporations that are pro-Chinese Communist Party.



Second doesn't get a reply today because he changed the subject again and I'm not playing that game with him.

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 3:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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I am terrified of counting votes,
Then democracy is obviously not for you!
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but I'm not a graduate student in, which discipline would it be, political science?
Well, since you failed to read what I posted the first 2 dozen times, let me highlight the first step for you.
A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF THE 2020 VOTE WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP, LIKE IT WAS IN 2004. (MITOFSKY)
That would ferret out if there was significant vote manipulation, like it did in 2004.
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Maybe the legislature of Pennsylvania could pass some law making the job easier for students at Universities to analyze the voting machines and the paper ballots after an election but the analysis needs to be done for a higher purpose than to get a degree.
Did *** I *** restrict MY comments to Pennsylvania? HAVE I *** EVER *** RESTRICTED MY POSTS TO ONE STATE? Because WHILE PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE ONE EXAMPLE OF VOTE MANIPULATION, ONE EXAMPLE ISN'T ENOUGH TO ESTABLISH STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY (MITOFSKY).

And what I'm calling for is exactly what CalTech/ MIT called for in their vote project, which is statistical analysis of voting, to detect manipulation. (Does that make CalTech and MIT stupid, or trolls, Russian or otherwise?)





If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 4:53 PM

THG


Comrade kikis' upset I think. It looks as though she is conversing with herself again. I sense a bit of rage there. Sig posts quotes without sourcing who she is quoting also.

For me that's a dead giveaway they are Schizophrenic. It's ok Russian collaborator kiki, there's no one there.

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I don't post names because I'm too tempted to give people the names I think they deserve.

But the person who posted the original can certainly recognize when they're being quoted. And YOU TOO!! could find who I'm quoting, if only you knew how to do edit/ find (selected text).


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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:18 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I don't post names because I'm too tempted to give people the names I think they deserve.

But the person who posted the original can certainly recognize when they're being quoted. And YOU TOO!! could find who I'm quoting, if only you knew how to do edit/ find (selected text).




Of course the person you are quoting knows who it is that's being quoted. That's because its you quoting you.

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Meanwhile, so the topic doesn't get lost is THUGGER'S gafla:

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I am terrified of counting votes,
Then democracy is obviously not for you!
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but I'm not a graduate student in, which discipline would it be, political science?
Well, since you failed to read what I posted the first 2 dozen times, let me highlight the first step for you.
A STATISTICAL ANALYSIS OF THE 2020 VOTE WOULD BE THE FIRST STEP, LIKE IT WAS IN 2004. (MITOFSKY)
That would ferret out if there was significant vote manipulation, like it did in 2004.
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Maybe the legislature of Pennsylvania could pass some law making the job easier for students at Universities to analyze the voting machines and the paper ballots after an election but the analysis needs to be done for a higher purpose than to get a degree.
Did *** I *** restrict MY comments to Pennsylvania? HAVE I *** EVER *** RESTRICTED MY POSTS TO ONE STATE? Because WHILE PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE ONE EXAMPLE OF VOTE MANIPULATION, ONE EXAMPLE ISN'T ENOUGH TO ESTABLISH STATISTICAL IMPOSSIBILITY (MITOFSKY).

And what I'm calling for is exactly what CalTech/ MIT called for in their vote project, which is statistical analysis of voting, to detect manipulation. (Does that make CalTech and MIT stupid, or trolls, Russian or otherwise?)





If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:32 PM

THG


Yep, kiki's upset. She's reposting her posts. I'll put this last one kiki in the garden thread so you can easily find it.

Cites kiki or it isn't true

T



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



snicker

Here ya' go!

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64099&mid=1
122420#1122420


Hopefully you're not too stupid to click on the link and read who posted the original post.


But, assuming you're too stupid to do even that, here's the original, quoted in full.

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

"While you are at it, examine more than one Presidential election in one year."

While academics can do a statistical look-back where there's sufficient data, that's all they can do.

Because are the ballots still available for more than 1 year? Computer codes still able to be examined? Computer memories able to be queried? And so on.

The more you argue against what should be a no-brainer - ferreting out the facts of the 2020 election, whatever they may be - the more you look like you're terrified of them.

I am terrified of counting votes, but I'm not a graduate student in, which discipline would it be, political science? Maybe the legislature of Pennsylvania could pass some law making the job easier for students at Universities to analyze the voting machines and the paper ballots after an election but the analysis needs to be done for a higher purpose than to get a degree. What purpose? Telling the legislature how to improve the voting systems in each county of Pennsylvania. Every county has a different system run by people with different motivations.

A better voting system in Pennsylvania requires spending money at the county level. For an example that is NOT about voting, statistics don't stop deaths from car accidents. You can count as much as you want and place a pin in a map at the location of every road death, but that won't actually reduce the death toll in Pennsylvania. The county governments have got to spend money on better traffic enforcement and safer roads. While they are at it, spend money on their voting systems to make them less prone to arguments about cheating.

Crash Facts & Statistics
https://www.penndot.gov/TravelInPA/Safety/pages/crash-facts-and-statis
tics.aspx


Pennsylvania Crash Information Tool
https://crashinfo.penndot.gov/PCIT/welcome.html

Imagine having reports on VOTING accidents in Pennsylvania:
In 2019, there were 125,267 reportable traffic crashes in Pennsylvania. These crashes claimed the lives of 1,059 people and injured another 76,243 people. To add some perspective, the 2019 total of reportable traffic crashes is the eighth lowest total since 1950 when 113,748 crashes were reported.
https://www.penndot.gov/TravelInPA/Safety/Documents/2019_CFB_linked.pd
f


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THUGGER is an idiot. It's that simple. But thanks for proving that not only are you really, really, stupid, you're a troll as well.

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Meanwhile, I'm betting myself that SECOND can't come up with an on-topic reply based on facts.

In 3, 2, 1 ...


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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Marcos prefers to get his news from multi-national corporations that are pro-Chinese Communist Party.

Can you give us an example of a multinational corporation that is pro-Chinese Communist Party?

I'll wait.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:56 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Meanwhile, I'm betting myself that SECOND can't come up with an on-topic reply based on facts.

In 3, 2, 1 ...


Eat shit, Russian troll. You lost before you started. You're an idiot.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 6:18 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say

Back to the OT and the CalTech/ MIT Vote Project calling for statistical analysis to detect vote manipulation ...

(Those dastardly Russian Trolls™!)



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 6:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Yep, kiki's upset. She's reposting her posts. I'll put this last one kiki in the garden thread so you can easily find it.

Cites kiki or it isn't true

T





You know... Brenda hangs out mostly in the Garden thread and never says anything shitty to anybody ever.

Aren't you ever ashamed of your behavior?

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 6:48 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say

Back to the OT and the CalTech/ MIT Vote Project calling for statistical analysis to detect vote manipulation ...

(Those dastardly Russian Trolls™!)



If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

Not gonna read that shit article because they want my e-mail.

Fraudulent sources lead to stupid conclusions, which your stupid bitch ass has once again arrived at.

You are a fraud and a liar, not to mention an extremely unintelligent and overtly obvious Russian troll, and you still have NO PROOF WHATSOEVER of anything you claim.

You're a joke.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 6:50 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Yep, kiki's upset. She's reposting her posts. I'll put this last one kiki in the garden thread so you can easily find it.

Cites kiki or it isn't true

T





You know... Brenda hangs out mostly in the Garden thread and never says anything shitty to anybody ever.

Aren't you ever ashamed of your behavior?

The first draft of anything is shit. :)

We owe Russian trolls no courtesy. You are an enemy of America, and will be treated as such, piece of shit.



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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:00 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Back to the OT and the CalTech/ MIT Vote Project calling for statistical analysis to detect vote manipulation ...

(Those dastardly Russian Trolls™!)



RF is an idiot. It's that simple.

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:32 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

THUGR: Yep, kiki's upset. She's reposting her posts. I'll put this last one kiki in the garden thread so you can easily find it.
Cites kiki or it isn't true


SIX: You know... Brenda hangs out mostly in the Garden thread and never says anything shitty to anybody ever.

Aren't you ever ashamed of your behavior?

THUGR is never ashamed of his behavior because he's a troll. He said so himself.

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#WEARAMASK

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Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Also, I see REAVERBOT is spewing bile again. KIKI must have really upset him.

. BTW REAVERBOT also meets the classic definition of an internet troll. But he'd never admit, even to himself, that he is.

The virtue signalling is strong with that one.

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Monday, January 18, 2021 7:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Over 432,000 Votes Removed From Trump in Pennsylvania, Data Scientists Say
By Allen Zhong
January 4, 2021 Updated: January 4, 2021

Pennsylvania election data shows that over 432,000 votes were removed from President Donald Trump during the November election, data scientists say.

According to an analysis by the Data Integrity Group, obtained exclusively by The Epoch Times, votes for Trump—from both Election Day and mail-in ballots—were removed from the totals in at least 15 counties.

Time-series election data shows Trump’s votes decrementing in various counties at numerous time points instead of increasing as would be expected under normal circumstances.

The group said that Election Day vote removals happened during the vote tabulation process in at least 15 counties, including Lehigh County, Chester County, Allegheny County, Armstrong County, Westmoreland County, Northampton County, Delaware County, Montgomery County, Lackawanna County, Dauphin County, Pike County, Carbon County, Washington County, Erie County, and Luzerne County.

Meanwhile, absentee vote removals happened in Allegheny County, Chester County, and Lehigh County.

At least 432,116 votes—213,707 election day votes and 218,409 absentee votes—were removed in total.

“There were vote movements across all candidates. However, we did not see the same type of negative decrements to any of the [other] candidates that we saw with President Trump’s tallies, and they happened repeatedly with no explanation,” Lynda McLaughlin, a member of the group, told The Epoch Times.

The Pennsylvania Secretary of State’s office didn’t respond to a request for comment from The Epoch Times.

MORE AT https://m.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-over-432000-votes-removed-from-t
rump-in-pennsylvania-data-scientists-say_3642202.html


Doesn't this mean you are racist?

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Monday, January 18, 2021 8:40 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

JSF: Doesn't this mean you are racist?
Haven't you heard? Math and numeracy are inherently racist and privileged. Therefore, I'm no longer allowed to evaluate numeric data or even balance a checkbook without demonstrating my white privilege. Not allowed; so sayeth the "woke" mob.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, January 18, 2021 8:53 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

JSF: Doesn't this mean you are racist?
Haven't you heard? Math and numeracy are inherently racist and privileged. Therefore, I'm no longer allowed to evaluate numeric data or even balance a checkbook without demonstrating my white privilege. Not allowed; so sayeth the "woke" mob.

Yeah, but the story is a complete lie, so there's that.



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Monday, January 18, 2021 11:51 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


What are you going to do when math and facts are racist?




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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:23 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


You know... Brenda hangs out mostly in the Garden thread and never says anything shitty to anybody ever.




I think I can speak for Brenda here when I say she also knows you are broken. She may be smarter than all of us because she knows it is entirely futile to have anything to do with you.


I say there is still hope you will figure out you need a new brain. I mean, eventually they will try to make a bionic man out of SOMEBODY, and since you are just sitting in a basement collecting dust....It'd be a waste of parts for you not to try...




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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:25 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What are you going to do when math and facts are racist?

All your math and "facts" (432,000 votes for Trump) come from The Epoch Times, a far-right media company affiliated with the Falun Gong new religious movement. The newspaper is part of the Epoch Media Group, which also operates New Tang Dynasty (NTD) Television.

The Epoch Times promotes far-right politicians in Europe, and backs President Donald Trump in the U.S.; a 2019 report by NBC News showed it to be the second-largest funder of pro-Trump Facebook advertising after the Trump campaign. The Epoch Media Group's news sites and YouTube channels have spread conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Epoch_Times

If you want real numbers in Pennsylvania, don't go to the Falun Gong Gang. Rather, go to Election Returns Pennsylvania Government.
https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/

The Epoch Times claiming Trump's falsehoods are not false on the front page:


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 1:26 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What are you going to do when math and facts are racist?





More importantly, what are YOU going to do when you don't have something to panic react to and ask stupid improbable hypotheticals about?

OH, I know....it's that dirty word.... J....O....B.



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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:36 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

JSF: Doesn't this mean you are racist?
Haven't you heard? Math and numeracy are inherently racist and privileged. Therefore, I'm no longer allowed to evaluate numeric data or even balance a checkbook without demonstrating my white privilege. Not allowed; so sayeth the "woke" mob.

Yeah, but the story is a complete lie, so there's that.





Quote:

Mathematics association declares math is racist

https://thepostmillennial.com/mathematical-association-decries-math-as
-inherently-biased


Quote:

Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist

https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/21/seattle-schools-math-is-racist/

Quote:

Professor: ‘Mathematics Itself Operates as Whiteness’

https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/10/math-racist-university-illinois
-professor
/

Quote:

Liberal Professor: Math is Now Racist and Sexist

https://steadfastdaily.com/liberal-professor-math-is-now-racist-and-se
xist
/

Who am I to argue with all of these woke people that blacks (and women!) just can't do math, and in order to make everyone equal, nobody else should, either?


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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 6:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Mathematics association declares math is racist

https://thepostmillennial.com/mathematical-association-decries-math-as
-inherently-biased


Who am I to argue with all of these woke people that blacks (and women!) just can't do math, and in order to make everyone equal, nobody else should, either?

What did the math assoc. really say? “Thanks to science and mathematics, we understand now that masks, social distancing, frequent, rapid, mass testing, and contact tracing are all fundamental to keep our communities safer during the COVID-19 pandemic,” the association wrote.
https://www.mathvalues.org/masterblog/anti-science-policy-censure-of-d
iscourse-on-race-and-racism


Signym's "the post millennial.com" puts a fake headline on the math assoc story and that is Signym's first reference in a misleading post. How sad it must be — believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality TV star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying (i.e. Trump) is truthful and honest, including about election numbers. A few of Trump's lies are rated at PolitiFact: www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 9:16 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

JSF: Doesn't this mean you are racist?

SIGNYM Haven't you heard? Math and numeracy are inherently racist and privileged. Therefore, I'm no longer allowed to evaluate numeric data or even balance a checkbook without demonstrating my white privilege. Not allowed; so sayeth the "woke" mob.

REAVERBOT: Yeah, but the story is a complete lie, so there's that.


SIGNYM:
Mathematics association declares math is racist
https://thepostmillennial.com/mathematical-association-decries-math-as
-inherently-biased


The statement went on to disparage the “biases” that mathematics supposedly “inherently carries."

"It is time for all members of our profession to acknowledge that mathematics is created by humans and therefore inherently carries human biases. Until this occurs, our community and our students cannot reach full potential," wrote the group. "Reaching this potential in mathematics relies upon the academy and higher education engaging in critical, challenging, sometimes uncomfortable conversations about the detrimental effects of race and racism on our community. The time is now to move mathematics and education forward in pursuit of justice."

Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist
https://dailycaller.com/2019/10/21/seattle-schools-math-is-racist/
The committee suggests that math is subjective and racist, saying under one section, “Who gets to say if an answer is right,” and under another, “how is math manipulated to allow inequality and oppression to persist?”
Rantz: Seattle Schools document say math is oppressive, US government racist https://t.co/uV6DzIHfFu — (((Jason Rantz))) on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) October 2, 2019
Jason Rantz of KTTH in Seattle noted that, “ESAC is made up of a number of educators and was created due to a legislature mandate to ‘advise, assist, and make recommendations to the office of the superintendent of public instruction regarding the identification of ethnic studies materials.'”
It is also stated in the document that Western mathematics is “used to disenfranchise? people and communities of color.”
Under this framework students will be able to “construct & decode mathematical knowledge, truth, and beauty” so that they can contribute to their communities.
Furthermore, under this criteria students will analyze the ways in which “ancient mathematical knowledge has been appropriated by Western culture, and “identify how math has been and continues to be used to oppress and marginalize people and communities of color.”

Professor: ‘Mathematics Itself Operates as Whiteness’
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/10/math-racist-university-illinois
-professor
/
On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness....
Gutierrez also worries that algebra and geometry perpetuate privilege, fretting that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans."

Math also helps actively perpetuate white privilege too, since the way our economy places a premium on math skills gives math a form of “unearned privilege” for math professors, who are disproportionately white... she also worries that evaluations of math skills can perpetuate discrimination against minorities, especially if they do worse than their white counterparts.
“If one is not viewed as mathematical, there will always be a sense of inferiority that can be summoned,” she says, adding that there are so many minorities who “have experienced microaggressions from participating in math classrooms… [where people are] judged by whether they can reason abstractly.”

Isn't abstract reasoning a component of intellignce? If someone CANNOT reason abstractly, what does that mean?

Now, this is a DIFFERENT Professor
Quote:

Liberal Professor: Math is Now Racist and Sexist
https://steadfastdaily.com/liberal-professor-math-is-now-racist-and-se
xist
/
“Along with the ‘of course math is neutral because 2+2=4’ trope and the related (and creepy) ‘math is pure’ and ‘protect math.’ Reeks of white supremacist patriarchy,” Rubel added. “I’d rather think on nurturing people & protecting the planet (with math in service of them goals).”



Who am I to argue with all these woke people that since blacks (and women) can't do math, to make things equal nobody else should either?

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Tuesday, January 19, 2021 9:32 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Who am I to argue with all these woke people that since blacks (and women) can't do math, to make things equal nobody else should either?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Pretty colors in your post, Signym, but in the final analysis the numbers are Pennsylvania's and if you don't like it, then sue. But that has been done and Trump lost in court. If you still don't like it, find a Trump friendly journalist or professor to produce fake numbers showing Trump won.

www.electionreturns.pa.gov/

BIDEN, JOSEPH ROBINETTE JR (DEM) 50.01%
Votes: 3,458,229
Election Day : 1,409,341
Mail : 1,995,691
Provisional : 53,168

TRUMP, DONALD J. (REP) 48.84%
Votes: 3,377,674
Election Day : 2,731,230
Mail : 595,538
Provisional : 50,874

Notice how Pennsylvania liked the Democrat for Attorney General more than Biden, but liked the Republican for Attorney General less than Trump:

SHAPIRO , JOSHUA D (DEM) 50.85%
Votes: 3,461,472
Election Day : 1,460,596
Mail : 1,947,117
Provisional : 53,531

HEIDELBAUGH, HEATHER S (REP) 46.33%
Votes: 3,153,831
Election Day : 2,529,637
Mail : 578,079
Provisional : 46,073

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