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And now for something important: the globe has an ~20% chance of hitting the global warming 1.5C target in the next 5 years

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I remember being told in early grade school that if the global temperature were to increase by a single degree that we'd face an extinction level event.

I can't imagine that in 30+ years that already hasn't happened and we're still here.


This is a tough item to debate.

I can't imagine that humans have done the environment anything other than a lot of problems, but all of the remedies either mean shit costs a lot more and/or a lot more people are out of work in an economy that already is hanging by a thread.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 7:50 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Back when you were in grade school was a long time ago, and science has moved on in the last 30 years.

Part of what's driving global warming is sheer wastefulness and inefficiency. If we got more efficient, and less geared towards excess, we could have everything we have today, at less of an environmental and overall monetary cost.

IMO what's driving that inefficiency and wastefulness are very large human-built (ie not forces of nature) systems - our economic model and global corporations.

Our economic model requires that corporations sell MORE in order to make MORE money than the competition; or by selling NEW AND DIFFERENT in order to carve out a new market. No company does well by selling 'just enough' - for example, just enough of food basics to healthfully sustain life. Maybe you haven't watched TV lately, but the number of fast-food and pre-prepared commercials is astounding. Anyway, I know you've personally pared down your lifestyle to know the difference between necessity and luxury, between need and want. But if everyone followed your lifestyle*, the economy would collapse sooner than it's already slated to do.

And then there are the corporations with their very large vested interests in keeping everything the same and doing everything the same. Exxon is going to be opposed to highly efficient ethanol-fueled fuel-cell cars. BASF is going to be opposed to insect solutions like (agricultural) integrated pest management that don't rely on regular and excessive use of its insecticides. Every solution that involves us doing something DIFFERENT - even if it's a cheaper, better, less excessive, more efficient option - is going to be opposed by an industry with a vested interest.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 9:05 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Oh, btw, before economists decided to intentionally turn the US economy into a CONSUMER economy to drive the economic machine, and turn people from being producers into CONSUMERS, the general ethic was to be hardworking, frugal, and geared towards a better future for themselves and the next generation. That was the ethic of the farm which people carried with them into the towns and cities.

The population was very deliberately propagandized to turn that around. This BBC video documents the many, many efforts by the government, the intelligentsia, and the businesses, to change an entire population's thinking.

The Century of Self - BBC (link edited to not self-load) http: // youtu.be/eJ3RzGoQC4s

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Back when you were in grade school was a long time ago, and science has moved on in the last 30 years.


I'm assuming that's a dig at me because of my comment about the 1 degree change.

And I'll just parry that by saying that 30 years from now, today will be a long time ago and science will have moved on from 2021 in the next 30 years.

Thank you for illustrating my point though.





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Part of what's driving global warming is sheer wastefulness and inefficiency. If we got more efficient, and less geared towards excess, we could have everything we have today, at less of an environmental and overall monetary cost.

IMO what's driving that inefficiency and wastefulness are very large human-built (ie not forces of nature) systems - our economic model and global corporations.

Our economic model requires that corporations sell MORE in order to make MORE money than the competition; or by selling NEW AND DIFFERENT in order to carve out a new market. No company does well by selling 'just enough' - for example, just enough of food basics to healthfully sustain life. Maybe you haven't watched TV lately, but the number of fast-food and pre-prepared commercials is astounding. Anyway, I know you've personally pared down your lifestyle to know the difference between necessity and luxury, between need and want. But if everyone followed your lifestyle*, the economy would collapse sooner than it's already slated to do.

And then there are the corporations with their very large vested interests in keeping everything the same and doing everything the same. Exxon is going to be opposed to highly efficient ethanol-fueled fuel-cell cars. BASF is going to be opposed to insect solutions like (agricultural) integrated pest management that don't rely on regular and excessive use of its insecticides. Every solution that involves us doing something DIFFERENT - even if it's a cheaper, better, less excessive, more efficient option - is going to be opposed by an industry with a vested interest.



It's worse than you imagine.



It's no longer just light bulbs that are designed to break.

It's everything.


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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 10:41 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I know about lightbulbs being designed to break.

But it's not just 'planned obsolescence'.


Consumer's didn't campaign for blister packaging, plastic-covered styrofoam meat trays, and plastic disposable grocery bags. Nor did they demand racoptine-fed beef and beef-mush-plus-glue 'steaks'. And certainly they would prefer a 100mpg car at a reasonable price, or better yet, convenient public transportation on open roads where they don't have to worry about missing the last damn bus for the evening or being caught for hours in traffic jams.

Consumers - except as voiceless pawns - aren't part of the picture when these extremely wasteful decisions are being made.

In this economy, there's only one criteria - will it make a company money.

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Wednesday, February 17, 2021 11:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I know about lightbulbs being designed to break.

But it's not just 'planned obsolescence'.


Consumer's didn't campaign for blister packaging, plastic-covered styrofoam meat trays, and plastic disposable grocery bags. Nor did they demand racoptine-fed beef and beef-mush-plus-glue 'steaks'. And certainly they would prefer a 100mpg car at a reasonable price, or better yet, convenient public transportation on open roads where they don't have to worry about missing the last damn bus for the evening or being caught for hours in traffic jams.


We've talked about all of that before. Not sure if you remember or not.

But planned obsolescence, first done on a massive scale with light bulbs, is a huge problem.

Imagine all the things we wouldn't be making today anymore if things were built to last. But that's not in any way profitable, and like the video you didn't watch goes into great detail about, every single thing we buy is designed to have a limitless consumer base in mind once the light bulb cartel realized that they were putting themselves quickly out of business when their light bulbs were designed to last 100 years.

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Consumers - except as voiceless pawns - aren't part of the picture when these extremely wasteful decisions are being made.

In this economy, there's only one criteria - will it make a company money.


No argument from me.


But at the end of the day, the world's biggest problem is overpopulation. Every other problem we have is magnified because of this one problem.

The only person I know here who is willing to acknowledge that hard truth is JO.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:30 AM

WISHIMAY


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No worries.

I'm just hoping The Coomph takes ME out before the world lights on fire is all.



AMEN TO THAT FIFY.



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Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:34 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

I'm assuming that's a dig at me because of my comment about the 1 degree change.


A narcissist WOULD see the evolution of thought as an assault on what he was taught, because he put a brain cell toward learning, now he has reprogram it. 30 years of better data and better instruments was all planned to screw HIM over






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Thursday, February 18, 2021 12:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Back when you were in grade school was a long time ago, and science has moved on in the last 30 years.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm assuming that's a dig at me because of my comment about the 1 degree change.
No dig. But in my job where one of the things I used to measure was ambient CO2 (a global warming gas) I saw it got up from 350ppm to 420ppm in 30 years (20%). There've been a lot changes in 30 years, not just in global warming gas concentrations like CO2, but the numbers and type of measurements being done (like satellite v ground-based), and the mathematics and modeling being done with the information. So information from 30 years ago is really outdated and not a good basis for an opinion, and I wonder why your mental reference is something from so long ago.

Anyway, "the United States population is equivalent to 4.25% of the total world population" and produces 15% of greenhouse gasses. And that's not counting the military which was explicitly omitted from the Paris Climate Accord (we don't even allow the military contribution to be measured), and the manufacturing we off-shored to China. If you got rid of the US in terms of official, counted global warming gasses, I'd be like getting rid of 1.2B people from the planet. That'd be quite a drop.

Anyway, yes, there are too many people. But in the end, there's too much consumption and pollution. And reducing that by whatever means - even if its by better efficiency and less excess - is a good thing.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 7:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. But what you're asking for is never going to happen.

I'm not arguing with anything your saying. I just wouldn't waste any time worrying about it since the only real fix for any of this is population reduction.

I'm sure the big brains are working on that one as we speak.

And I'm not going to waste any time worrying about that either since there's nothing you or I can do about any of it.

I recycle and don't consume much. I sleep fine at night.


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Thursday, February 18, 2021 3:25 PM

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. . . the only real fix for any of this is population reduction.
6ix, that is not a "fix". It's a philosophy for being defeated by life.

Download the free book "How to Avoid a Climate Disaster: The Solutions We Have and the Breakthroughs We Need"
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There are two numbers you need to know about climate change. The first is 51 billion. The other is zero. Fifty-one billion is how many tons of greenhouse gases the world typically adds to the atmosphere every year. Although the figure may go up or down a bit from year to year, it’s generally increasing. This is where we are today. Zero is what we need to aim for.

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 4:15 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™. That goes for the democrats* in general, too.

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:08 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



UN: Huge changes in society needed to keep nature, Earth OK

Humans are making Earth a broken and increasingly unlivable planet through climate change, biodiversity loss and pollution. So the world must make dramatic changes to society, economics and daily life, a new United Nations report says.

Unlike past U.N. reports that focused on one issue and avoided telling leaders actions to take, Thursday’s report combines three intertwined environment crises and tells the world what’s got to change. It calls for changing what governments tax, how nations value economic output, how power is generated, the way people get around, fish and farm, as well as what they eat.


https://apnews.com/article/un-climate-change-environment-crisis-df5f89
784ec92aaf8a855f88bdd753c9

https://www.unep.org/resources/making-peace-nature


If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:24 PM

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And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™. That goes for the democrats* in general, too.
No President, not even Biden, should ever promise to reduce CO2 to zero. It is only CONGRESS that can believably make that promise and provide the money for decades to make the promise really happen. But I see that most people think it is the President in charge, not CONGRESS. That's like thinking it is the horse in charge, not the rider wearing spurs who also feeds oats to the horse. If CONGRESS won't spur the President onward and won't feed the President $trillions for climate change, decade after decade, the President will not win a race against climate change.

Climate change will require decades of continuous work, while Presidents only last 8 years at best. When one President is swapped out for a fresh one, it is CONGRESS that has to make it clear that it wants the new President to continue the climate change task that CONGRESS had the old President working on. If CONGRESS vacillates about its goals, or doesn't know what a goal is, the President will be like a starved horse with no rider. Not gonna win a race against time and climate change.

Biden’s “all of government” plan for climate, explained
https://www.vox.com/22242572/biden-climate-change-plan-explained

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 7:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Biden* never promised to reduce CO2 emission to zero, so you bringing that up in answer is a total strawman on your part. As usual.

I'm just saying he* and the Dems* - the people in complete control of the WH and Congress in case you hadn't noticed - won't make any significant changes to global warming gas emissions either.

And you can post that in any of the 'predictions' threads, or all of them if you want.


If democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

And when Biden* fails to keep his promises - or even promote them - I'll be happy to laugh at his skinny saggy ass parading all over town in his New Clothes™.

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Thursday, February 18, 2021 7:59 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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. . . the only real fix for any of this is population reduction.
6ix, that is not a "fix". It's a philosophy for being defeated by life.


Yup... posted with your iPhone, I'm sure.

You're wrong, as per usual.

Solving overpopulation is the only cure. Period.

You're living in fantasy land.


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Friday, February 19, 2021 7:16 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Biden* never promised to reduce CO2 emission to zero, so you bringing that up in answer is a total strawman on your part. As usual.

I'm just saying he* and the Dems* - the people in complete control of the WH and Congress in case you hadn't noticed - won't make any significant changes to global warming gas emissions either.

And you can post that in any of the 'predictions' threads, or all of them if you want.
I looked around this morning in Foreign Policy to find an article about just that point. The whole article is much better than my Readers Digest/Very Short version of it:

The Death of the Carbon Coalition
Existing models of U.S. politics are wrong. Here’s how the system really works.

The United States’ two political parties cannot be brought together. Indeed, they are existential threats to each other. And on a population scale, each electoral coalition has more or less the same number of potential voters. As a result, elections are decided by thin margins in a race to the death.

Democrats and Republicans can’t compromise because their economic models are antithetical to each other and the middle means death. For almost half of U.S. states, the Green New Deal, which is—sotto voce—at the center of Biden’s platform, spells the end of their existing strategies—think fracking, refining, plastics, mining, logging, and so on. And for the other half of the states that support the Green New Deal, scaling back its objectives to attract support from the carbon coalition threatens the post-carbon coastal communities. Will Silicon Valley and Wall Street remain above water at 2 degrees Celsius global warming? There is simply no way to build a centrist coalition across this divide.

There is only one way to fix this mess. The post-carbon coalition has to bribe Republicans to make the carbon transition. Non-coastal, largely Republican states must be the epicenter of the green transition and be the recipients of most of the investment. After all, they have the most assets to turn around and the most to lose if they are not compensated. If all they are offered is “you decarbonize/we keep the money,” then all they will give back is more Trumpism.

There are clear parallels in U.S. history, such as the massive bribe that the urban sector began paying to farmers in 1933 with the Agricultural Adjustment Act and two generations of generous farm bills thereafter. Yet the bribe this time must involve more than a subsidy; it requires exiting the carbon economy. For it to work, green investment must extend well beyond energy capture (solar and wind farms) and downstream into industries that are powered by alternatives. Massive investments in electric vehicle production, for instance, to support a rapid turnover of the U.S. motor vehicle fleet with U.S.-built cars and trucks, are required.

There are many proposals on the table to ameliorate polarization. But perhaps the most fundamental, and hardest to do, is to change the way we think about politics. Elections in the United States are not being fought over rival principles and certainly not over median voters. They are contested over which parts of the country will grow and how and who will pay for it. Recognizing this is the first step to fixing the deeper problem of the carbon transition for the good of all Americans.

More at https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/12/carbon-coalition-median-voter-us-
politics/

or https://web.archive.org/web/20210216200200/https://foreignpolicy.com/2
021/02/12/carbon-coalition-median-voter-us-politics/

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Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:09 PM

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"How to Avoid a Climate Disaster: The Solutions We Have and the Breakthroughs We Need"
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"How to Avoid a Climate Disaster", by Bill Gates. A fun read about a serious topic.
By Wavefunction on Saturday, February 20, 2021

Bill Gates's book on climate change issues and solutions is exceptionally clear and simply written. Gates has an easy conversational style that makes the book a fun read, and he is clear-eyed about the problem and the solutions. He also stays away from politics, which makes the book a refreshingly apolitical read, especially in these times. Often Gates's interest as a hardcore nerd shows, for instance when he tours a geothermal energy plant on a family vacation. Gates is also modest; he recognizes well that the world might be skeptical to hear about climate change solutions from yet another billionaire who thinks technology can solve all our problems. The difference though is that that technology *can* contribute substantially to addressing climate change, and unlike almost any other rich person, Gates has shows that he has both the breadth of knowledge and - as shown by his vast philanthropy - the public commitment to tackle this huge challenge.
. . .
Contrary to what most people think, the biggest source of GHGs is not electricity generation or transportation but making things like steel, cement, ammonia and plastics (as the table below shows, these contribute more than 30% of total GHG emissions). Replacing these essentials of modern civilization is a daunting problem, much harder than thinking of replacing electricity or transportation sources, in part because the making of things like steel and cement is limited by the constraints of basic chemistry. It also does not help that the use of these materials by growing economies is exponentially increasing. This leads Gates to say whenever any company approaches him with a promising clean energy solution, "What's your strategy for cement?". The third big source of GHGs is land use and food. Lastly, heating and cooling constitute the fourth big source of emissions. Part of our discussion about climate change needs to be pivoted away from the fashionable things like electric cars, solar and nuclear power towards "boring" things like steel and cement.

How much greenhouse gas is emitted by the things we do?
31% Making things (cement, steel, plastic)
27% Plugging in (electricity)
19% Growing things (plants, animals)
16% Getting around (planes, trucks, cargo ships)
7% Keeping warm and cool (heating, cooling, refrigeration)

Gates tackles each of these five sources in turn and proposes solutions, some that exist in principle, others novel and experimental. A key figure to keep in mind is something called a Green Premium, which essentially refers to the extra price you would pay if you swapped out a fossil fuel source for one with clean energy; the smaller this number, the better the chance you have of making the replacement.

More at http://wavefunction.fieldofscience.com/2021/02/how-to-avoid-climate-di
saster-by-bill.html

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Sunday, February 21, 2021 3:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Gates is an idiot, as his massively disastrous Gates-backed polio vaccination programs show - as attested to by that radical anti-vax publication Science.

Quote:
The switch worked, except in Africa, where type 2 vaccine-derived outbreaks have been more frequent and much harder to stop than the models projected; they are now smoldering in seven countries. By using mOPV2, "We have now created more new emergences of the virus than we have stopped," Pallansch says.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6449/106.full
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/surging-cases-have-dashed-all-
hope-polio-might-be-eradicated-2019
Sure, Gates said. Let's massively try out that new gosh-whiz technology on the global population, he said. It'll be fun! he said.

Gates is not an epidemiologist/ virologist and his pronouncements have hardly any credibility.

And neither is he a climatologist, and his pronouncements are just as incredible.

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Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Gates is an idiot, as his massively disastrous Gates-backed polio vaccination programs show - as attested to by that radical anti-vax publication Science.

Quote:
The switch worked, except in Africa, where type 2 vaccine-derived outbreaks have been more frequent and much harder to stop than the models projected; they are now smoldering in seven countries. By using mOPV2, "We have now created more new emergences of the virus than we have stopped," Pallansch says.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6449/106.full
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/surging-cases-have-dashed-all-
hope-polio-might-be-eradicated-2019
Sure, Gates said. Let's massively try out that new gosh-whiz technology on the global population, he said. It'll be fun! he said.

Gates is not an epidemiologist/ virologist and his pronouncements have hardly any credibility.

And neither is he a climatologist, and his pronouncements are just as incredible.
1kiki, I don't think the Science article makes the point you are making. Let me quote the places it mentions Gates:

1) Still, the program has dealt with conflict before, says Jay Wenger of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation in Seattle, Washington, another partner in the eradication effort: "In Syria and Nigeria we found ways to get good enough vaccine coverage to stop the virus." . . .

2) A novel OPV2, genetically engineered to reduce its chances of reversion dramatically, has passed a phase I clinical trial, supported by the Gates Foundation. "It looks as good as it can now," Wenger says. The earliest it could possibly be available for use, however, is 2020. Further out is a new inactivated vaccine powerful enough to end outbreaks. "The race is on," Sutter says, "and it is very hard for me to predict which will win."

Nor will he predict when polio will be gone for good. Optimistic projections, he says, are "just setting the program up for failure."

More at https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/surging-cases-have-dashed-all-
hope-polio-might-be-eradicated-2019

(In my part of Texas, Trumptards have a weird hate toward rich&famous Democrats such as Gates. Assuming 1kiki is no different than the Trumptards I am familiar with, that would explain 1kiki's comments.)

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Sunday, February 21, 2021 4:35 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



There are far more facts to this story.

To recap:

Yes, it was the Gates FOUNDATION that backed the vax efforts. Do you think Billy wasn't behind it what his foundation was doing? That the Gates Foundation somehow opposed Billy's will?

And yes, the vaccination program was a disaster, spread and embedding far more polio in Africa than existed in the first place. Now it's a mess that'll take who knows how long to clean up, that even Gates flunky Wenger won't predict.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

There are far more facts to this story.

To recap:

Yes, it was the Gates FOUNDATION that backed the vax efforts. Do you think Billy wasn't behind it what his foundation was doing? That the Gates Foundation somehow opposed Billy's will?

And yes, the vaccination program was a disaster, spread and embedding far more polio in Africa than existed in the first place. Now it's a mess that'll take who knows how long to clean up, that even Gates flunky Wenger won't predict.
I don't see how this is Gates' fault, since the vaccine predates Gates becoming a philanthropist. The vaccine is even older than the founding of Microsoft: In Africa, the wild polio virus appears to be gone, but the vaccine-derived viruses circulating there are just as dangerous. These strains arise when the weakened live virus used in the oral polio vaccine (OPV) mutates and regains its virulence. In rare instances, where a population's immunity is low, they can spread just like the wild virus. Last year, vaccine-derived viruses paralyzed 105 children worldwide; the wild virus just 33.

To prevent outbreaks of vaccine-derived virus, WHO has declared that once the wild virus is gone, countries must stop all use of OPV. As a first step, in April 2016 all countries switched from the trivalent version of OPV—which covers all three types of polio virus—to a bivalent one, which lacks the type 2 component. (Wild type 2 virus is the only one that has been eradicated.)

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/07/surging-cases-have-dashed-all-
hope-polio-might-be-eradicated-2019

In the 1950s Salk and Sabin developed separate vaccines—one from killed virus and the other from live virus—to combat the dreaded disease polio.
https://www.sciencehistory.org/historical-profile/jonas-salk-and-alber
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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



If Gates actually knew anything - which he doesn't - he would have known that the only truly safe polio vaccine to date is the killed virus. Poliovirus reverting is a well-known phenomenon.

And thanks for quoting that the vaccination efforts in part funded by the Gets Foundation caused far more polio cases than naturally-occurring polio.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

If Gates actually knew anything - which he doesn't - he would have known that the only truly safe polio vaccine to date is the killed virus. Poliovirus reverting is a well-known phenomenon.

And thanks for quoting that the vaccination efforts in part funded by the Gets Foundation caused far more polio cases than naturally-occurring polio.
1kiki, what is also well known is the choice you are selling requires four shots, with needles, while the choice you oppose requires drops on a sugar cube. Parents tend to shy away from needles and children prefer sugar. Bill Gates would have paid for needles/syringes if the parents wanted needles, but the choice isn't up to him.

Why does America use the polio shot (IPV) and not the oral polio vaccine (OPV)? In about 1 of every 2.4 million recipients, the live, weakened virus contained in the oral polio vaccine causes paralysis. The shot does not have this same side effect because, unlike the oral version, the shot contains killed virus that cannot replicate and, therefore, cannot cause paralysis.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine
-details/polio-vaccine

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd/polio/public/index.html

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Fuck Bill Gates.

Dude got wealthy over a lifetime of stealing other people's shit.


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Monarch butterflies down 26% in Mexico wintering grounds



MEXICO CITY (AP) — The number of monarch butterflies that showed up at their winter resting grounds in central Mexico decreased by about 26% this year, and four times as many trees were lost to illegal logging, drought and other causes, making 2020 a bad year for the butterflies.

The government commission for natural protected areas said the butterflies’ population covered only 2.1 hectares (5.2 acres) in 2020, compared to 2.8 hectares (6.9 acres) the previous year and about one-third of the 6.05 hectares (14.95 acres) detected in 2018.

Gloria Tavera, the regional director of Mexico’s Commission for National Protected Areas, blamed the drop on “extreme climate conditions,” the loss of milkweed habitat in the United States and Canada on which butterflies depend, and deforestation in the butterflies’ wintering grounds in Mexico.

Illegal logging in the monarchs wintering rounds rose to almost 13.4 hectares (33 acres), a huge increase from the 0.43 hectare (1 acre) lost to logging last year.

Jorge Rickards of the WWF environmental group acknowledged the lost trees were a blow, but said “the logging is very localized” in three or four of the mountain communities that make up the butterfly reserve.

In addition, wind storms, drought and the felling of trees that had fallen victim to pine beetles or disease, caused the loss of another 6.9 hectares (17 acres) in the reserve, bringing the total forest loss in 2020 to 20.65 hectares (51 acres). That compares to an overall loss of about 5 hectares (12.3 acres) from all causes the previous year.

Tavera said the drought was affecting the butterflies themselves, as well as the pine and fir trees where the clump together for warmth.

https://apnews.com/article/monarch-butterflies-down-mexico-9eb0e1e1b09
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The Atlantic Ocean circulation that underpins the Gulf Stream, the weather system that brings warm and mild weather to Europe, is at its weakest in more than a millennium, and climate breakdown is the probable cause, according to new data.

Further weakening of the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) could result in more storms battering the UK, more intense winters and an increase in damaging heatwaves and droughts across Europe.

Scientists predict that the AMOC will weaken further if global heating continues, and could reduce by about 34% to 45% by the end of this century, which could bring us close to a “tipping point” at which the system could become irrevocably unstable. A weakened Gulf Stream would also raise sea levels on the Atlantic coast of the US, with potentially disastrous consequences.

Stefan Rahmstorf, of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, who co-authored the study published on Thursday in Nature Geoscience, told the Guardian that a weakening AMOC would increase the number and severity of storms hitting Britain, and bring more heatwaves to Europe.

He said the circulation had already slowed by about 15%, and the impacts were being seen. “In 20 to 30 years it is likely to weaken further, and that will inevitably influence our weather, so we would see an increase in storms and heatwaves in Europe, and sea level rises on the east coast of the US,” he said.

Rahmstorf said: “We risk triggering [a tipping point] in this century, and the circulation would spin down within the next century. It is extremely unlikely that we have already triggered it, but if we do not stop global warming, it is increasingly likely that we will trigger it.

“The consequences of this are so massive that even a 10% chance of triggering a breakdown would be an unacceptable risk.”

More at https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/25/atlantic-ocean-cir
culation-at-weakest-in-a-millennium-say-scientists

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Fossilized pollen and leaves reveal that the meteorite that caused the extinction of nonavian dinosaurs also reshaped South America’s plant communities to yield the planet’s largest rain forest

Dinosaur and fossil aficionados are intimately familiar with the meteorite strike that drove Tyrannosaurus rex and all nonavian dinosaurs to extinction around 66 million years ago. But it is often overlooked that the impact also wiped out entire ecosystems. A new study shows how those casualties, in turn, led to another particularly profound evolutionary outcome: the emergence of the Amazon rain forest of South America, the most spectacularly diverse environment on the planet. Yet the Amazon’s bounty of tropical species and habitats now face their own existential threat because of unprecedented destruction from human activity, including land clearing for agriculture.

The new study, published on Thursday in Science, analyzed tens of thousands of plant fossils and represents “a fundamental advance in knowledge,” says Peter Wilf, a geoscientist at Pennsylvania State University, who was not involved in the research. “The authors demonstrate that the dinosaur extinction was also a massive reset event for neotropical ecosystems, putting their evolution on an entirely new path leading directly to the extraordinary, diverse, spectacular and gravely threatened rain forests in the region today.”

These insights, Wilf adds, “provide new impetus for the conservation of the living evolutionary heritage in the tropics that supports human life, along with millions of living species.”

Carlos Jaramillo, a paleobiologist at the Panama-based Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute and co-lead author of the study, agrees that the meteorite’s evolutionary and ecological effects hold implications for today’s rapid, human-caused destruction of the Amazon rain forest and other key habitats across the planet. “We can relate this to nowadays,” he says, “because we’re also transforming landscapes, and that lasts forever—or at least a very long time.”

Prior to the meteorite, the authors determined, South America’s forests featured many conifers and a brightly lit open canopy supporting a lush understory of ferns. Dinosaurs likely played key roles in maintaining these Cretaceous forests by knocking down trees and clearing out vegetation, among other things. Within moments of the Chicxulub meteorite’s impact, however, this ecosystem was irrevocably altered. Fires, which likely burned for several years, engulfed South America’s southerly forests. Along with many of the animals they supported, a total of 45 percent of the continent’s tropical plant species disappeared, according to the authors’ calculations.

Regan Dunn, a paleoecologist at the La Brea Tar Pits and Museum in Los Angeles, who was not involved in the new study, agrees that its findings are not only key for revealing the past but also for putting current anthropogenic threats into perspective. She particularly notes the authors’ calculation that 45 percent of plant species went extinct following the meteorite collision, because “current estimates suggest that at least this many plant species will be globally threatened in the Amazon basin in the next 30 years from human activities alone.”

“The question remains: How will human impact change the composition and function of Amazonian forests forever?” Dunn says.

The new findings show how extensive mass extinction events can alter “the course of everything,” Jacobs says. Today we are in the midst of another such event, she adds, but this one is driven by a single species—and there is no place far from the metaphorical impact crater “because humans are ubiquitous.”

Yet unlike past mass extinction events, Jacobs says, this time “we are not powerless to stop it.”

More at https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-asteroid-that-killed-th
e-dinosaurs-created-the-amazon-rain-forest/



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^ Overpopulation. Period.


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Climate models predicted heatwaves like America’s record-breaking weekend

The U.S. hasn’t seen anything quite like this. Over the weekend, temperatures soared to new triple-digit heights across the American West. The immediate cause was a “heat dome,” a mass of high-pressure air trapping heat beneath it, one far stronger and larger than normal.

But what we saw this weekend is what climate scientists have been predicting for decades. And it’s a taste of what’s to come. “It’s surreal to see your models become real life,” Katharine Hayhoe, climate scientist and chief scientist at the Nature Conservancy, says in the Guardian.

Records fell across the region. On June 17, California’s capital of Sacramento hit 110°F (43°C), smashing the last record of 102°F set in 1976. Similar all-time highs fell in Las Vegas, Denver, Phoenix, and other cities thousands of miles apart. In Death Valley National Park, where temperatures soared to 128°F, just one degree off the record, nighttime temperatures stayed above 111°F (44°C) well past midnight, among the hottest nights ever recorded in North America.

What climate models predicted is coming true. Scientists forecast global warming would fuel higher temperatures, falling humidity, dwindling snowpack, and intensifying drought. So far, this is coming to pass, despite some uncertainty about how this will play out in the coming century.

Extreme heatwaves are now an estimated 3 to 5 degrees Fahrenheit warmer across the US, estimates Michael Wehner, a senior scientist at Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory. In the West, the hottest days have gotten about 33% drier in Nevada and California over the last 40 years, according to the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) climate scientist Karen McKinnon. A “megadrought” now engulfing the region is eclipsing any period for the last 1,200 years.

Little of this is surprising for scientists who run supercomputers modeling the planet’s atmosphere. In 2019, climate scientist Zeke Hausfather analyzed 17 climate models run between 1970 and 2007 and found more than half predicted outcomes “indistinguishable from what actually occurred.” More than 80% correctly analyzed how the atmosphere would respond to rising greenhouse gases level after controlling for models that overestimated humans’ GHG emissions.

When will the heatwave be over?

The West’s drought appears to be without precedent in recorded history. From Oregon to the Mexican border, drought intensity has reached “exceptional” levels. Decades of low rainfall, and two especially dry years, have turned the region into a tinderbox with 100 million dead trees in California alone, and millions more ready to burn. With the hottest, and driest, period of the year still ahead, conditions are “as bad as they can be,” says Daniel Swain, a climate scientist at UCLA.

Last year, similar (but not as dry) conditions led to an apocalyptic fire season that killed 33, burned 4% of the state (4.4 million acres), and left the entire coast languishing under blood-red skies. Fires are breaking out again in California more than a month early, with forests primed to go up in flames. Ranchers and farmers are starting to talk about shrinking their herds, or ending their livelihoods, as the wells dry up: 20% of California’s prime farmland in the San Joaquin Valley has been fallowed.

On the surface, water is vanishing as well. For the first time, the massive reservoir behind the Hoover Dam, Lake Mead, registered just 37% full. That’s threatening power and water supplies for seven states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Nevada, New Mexico, Utah, and Wyoming) in the Colorado River basin (the dam’s generation is already down 25%). In California, the loss of snowpack means that power generation is forecast to drop 70% below the 10-year average, while some power-producing dams, such as the one on Lake Oroville, could stop generating power for the first time since they were built more than 50 years ago.

This week’s misery won’t go on forever, and some relief is in sight for the West this week. Temperatures will ease as the heat dome begins to dissipate over the Southwest. But a new heatwave is already gaining steam, this time in northern California and up along the Pacific coast. More misery is in store. “Additional records may be set, once again,” writes Swain.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210621192400/https://qz.com/2022848/what
-americas-latest-heatwave-is-all-about-global-warming/

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



This "once in a millennia" heat wave is a taste of the future.


Because while it's true that temps will go up - and down - the ups will be higher, longer, and more frequent - and the downs will be not quite as low, shorter, and rarer.

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A 1972 MIT study predicted that rapid economic growth would lead to societal collapse in the mid 21st century. A new paper shows we’re unfortunately right on schedule.

The controversial MIT analysis generated heated debate, and was widely derided at the time by pundits who misrepresented its findings and methods. But the analysis has now received stunning vindication from a study written by a senior director at professional services giant KPMG, one of the 'Big Four' accounting firms as measured by global revenue.

The study was published in the Yale Journal of Industrial Ecology in November 2020 and is available on the KPMG website. https://advisory.kpmg.us/articles/2021/limits-to-growth.html

The current business-as-usual trajectory of global civilization is heading toward the terminal decline of economic growth within the coming decade — and at worst, could trigger societal collapse by around 2040.

While focusing on the pursuit of continued economic growth for its own sake will be futile, the study finds that technological progress and increased investments in public services could not just avoid the risk of collapse, but lead to a new stable and prosperous civilization operating safely within planetary boundaries. But we really have only the next decade to change course.

More at https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3xw3x/new-research-vindicates-1972-mi
t-prediction-that-society-will-collapse-soon

Data check on the world model that forecast global collapse
Gaya Herrington, Director Sustainability Services at KPMG and Club of Rome advisor
https://www.clubofrome.org/blog-post/herrington-world-model/

Yep, it’s bleak, says expert who tested 1970s end-of-the-world prediction
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/25/gaya-herrington-mi
t-study-the-limits-to-growth

Can you imagine 61 Senators reading this and then voting to spend the money to stop the end of the world? 61 won't read it, and certainly when they see the annual cost is more than what is spent on the Pentagon, they will refuse to believe it.

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Second just dropping hints all over the board that he's pissing and moaning about the filibuster not being killed.

Boo Hoo, dude.

I told you from the very beginning it wasn't going to happen.


You should listen to me more often.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Second just dropping hints all over the board that he's pissing and moaning about the filibuster not being killed.

Boo Hoo, dude.

I told you from the very beginning it wasn't going to happen.


You should listen to me more often.
6ix, I hear from genuine Texans the same tired old ideas as you frequently share and all those Texans are mentally challenged struggling to stay in the middle class who think of themselves as huge successes. (They are NOT successful, just so you know, but they are delusional. I think there is a strong connection between self-delusional and financially struggling, but they can't see any connection.)

Over two dozen youth-focused organizations and more than 100 other young people sent Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer a letter, shared first with CNN, urging the New York Democrat and his caucus to scrap the filibuster.

The letter, delivered to Schumer via email Thursday evening, argues that the Senate stall tactic stands in the way of passing legislation to protect the next generation – a group of Americans facing what they call multiple “urgent crises” at once such as the attack on voting rights, danger of climate change, threat of school shootings and burden of student loan debt.

“If legislation addressing every issue that young people care about is filibustered, it’s hard to keep faith in a political process that’s choosing to uphold an arcane Senate procedural rule instead of delivering on the essential progress we all are working for and that our country desperately needs,” the group writes.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/30/politics/young-people-chuck-schumer-fil
ibuster/index.html

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A crucial system of currents in the Atlantic Ocean that helps control temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere and has implications for the entire planet’s weather systems is showing signs of instability due to human-made climate change, scientists say.

Its collapse would have dire consequences for our weather and life on Earth.

The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) – which the Gulf Stream is a major part of – helps maintain the energy balance in the Atlantic Ocean. It is often described as a “conveyor belt” that takes warm surface water from the tropics and distributes it to the north Atlantic. The colder, saltier water then sinks and flows south.

A study, published Thursday in Nature and Climate Change, warned of “an almost complete loss of stability of the AMOC over the course of the last century. Researchers say it could be close to a collapse from a strong circulation to a weak circulation, though the threshold for such a collapse is still uncertain.

Scientists have warned for years that the circulation is weakening. Heavy rain and melting ice sheets are making the water in the North Atlantic Ocean less salty, which makes it lighter and less likely to sink. If the water in this region becomes too light, the entire circulation could be disrupted.

Global weather patterns are critically linked to the circulation and its transport of heat and nutrients around the planet. A collapse of this system would result in significant and abrupt changes, including fast sea level rise, more extreme winters in Western Europe and disruptions to monsoon systems in the tropics.

It could also have a cascading effect and destabilize other components of the Earth’s climate system, including the Antarctic ice sheet and the Amazon rainforest.

This scenario was the premise for the 2004 climate science fiction film “The Day After Tomorrow,” in which a series of extreme weather disasters strike after climate change caused the AMOC to collapse.

The study comes ahead of a major report by the UN’s International Panel on Climate Change on Monday, which has been years in the making and is expected to provide the most conclusive look yet at the extent of human-made climate change. It will also likely paint a picture of what the future could look like, depending on what action the world takes to reduce its greenhouse gas emissions.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/world/climate-gulf-stream-collapse-warn
ing-study-intl/index.html

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US automakers pledge huge increase in electric vehicles
https://apnews.com/article/technology-joe-biden-business-environment-a
nd-nature-economy-88fe6ca8e333f3d00f6d2e98c6652cea


... because of Biden's* support/ pressure. Sorry everybody, this'll do zip to stop global warming. It's just one more example of democrats* blowing the 1% while making noises about the purity of their intentions.


And if democrats* don't do any different, how are they any better?

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Climate change IPCC report is 'code red for humanity', UN scientists say



IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Press Release:
https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2021/08/IPCC_WGI-AR6-Press-Rel
ease_en.pdf

Climate Change 2021: The Physical Science Basis
https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/

The full report is 3,949 pages. The 42 page Summary for Policymakers (SPM) provides a high-level summary of the understanding of the current state of the climate.


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"Bottom line is that we have zero years left to avoid dangerous climate change, because it's here," Michael E. Mann, a lead author of the IPCC's 2001 report, told CNN.

Unlike previous assessments, Monday's report concludes it is "unequivocal" that humans have caused the climate crisis and confirms that "widespread and rapid changes" have already occurred, some of them irreversibly.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/09/world/global-climate-change-report-un-i
pcc/index.html

How did Trump respond? This way: "Communist Democrat Party". Trump passionately hates the Green New Deal, the only way to save the world from burning to death.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-gyuymdj5zs0

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everything the media says is a lie. wake up sheeple
??????
there's no global warming, there's no coronavirus epidemic, there's no white supremacy, no terrorist threat, there's no economic crisis, there's no debt crisis, there's no islamic extremist, there's no russian threat, there's no foreign election meddling, all of it is fake, everything they say is fake. If it wasn't fake, it wouldn't profit them to say it.

The only thing that's true is whatever the media says is false.

If a conspiracy theory is not worth the media's time to repeatedly tell you it's fake, then it's probably fake. If the media feels the need to repeatedly tell you a story is false, then it's probably true.

Once you become a contrarian, you'll find you predictive capacity will increase 100 fold.


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Monday, August 9, 2021 12:34 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I've seen too many of the forest fires they've reported about, and driven from one to the other, to think that their reporting is completely fake.

Just saying - I'd rather believe my eyes than disbelieve them just because what I've seen is also on TV.

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:29 AM

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The IPCC report approved by 195 nations shines a harsh spotlight on governments dithering in the face of mounting evidence that climate change is an existential crisis. "It's suicidal, and economically irrational to keep procrastinating."

We ignored the warnings, and now it's too late: global heating has arrived with a vengeance and will see Earth's average temperature reach 1.5 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels around 2030, a decade earlier than projected only three years ago, according to a landmark UN assessment published on Monday.

The world must brace itself for worse—potentially much worse—to come, the report made clear. Even if the 1.5C target humanity is now poised to overshoot is miraculously achieved, it would still generate heatwaves, rainfall, drought and other extreme weather "unprecedented in the observational record", it concluded.

A looming danger is "tipping points", invisible thresholds—triggered by rising temperatures—for irreversible changes in Earth's climate system. Disintegrating ice sheets holding enough water to raise seas a dozen metres; the melting of permafrost laden with double the carbon in the atmosphere; the transition of the Amazon from tropical forest to savannah—these potential catastrophes "cannot be ruled out," the report cautions.

"An important reason for taking urgent action on emissions is to decrease the chances that one or more of these world-changing events will be triggered over the 21st century," said Andrew Watson, Royal Society Research Professor at the University of Exeter.

More at https://phys.org/news/2021-08-global-code-red-humanity.html

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 9:10 PM

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It is encouraging that this report suggests a strategy to alleviate some of its most devastating projections.

For the first time in IPCC history, the assessment dedicates an entire chapter to short-lived climate pollutants, casting a spotlight on methane – the reduction of which would have immediate climate benefits. It shows that methane pollution from fossil fuel operations, agriculture and other activities is responsible for more than a quarter of today’s warming.

The good news is cutting this pollution also represents the fastest way to slow the rate of warming. We know how to cut methane pollution quickly and cheaply, allowing us to make crucial progress while we continue to decarbonize our energy systems.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/10/opinions/frightening-climate-change-rep
ort-fred-krupp/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Does this mean that you're going to slaughter all of your cows and get out of the Steak Business as a show of good faith then, Second.

It really annoys us that your fictional RL personality and its farting cows are responsible for all of the fires.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 9:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Disintegrating ice sheets holding enough water to raise seas a dozen metres...


At least Democrats won't have to worry about Florida anymore.

Maybe that was the plan all along?

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:37 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Does this mean that you're going to slaughter all of your cows and get out of the Steak Business as a show of good faith then, Second.

It really annoys us that your fictional RL personality and its farting cows are responsible for all of the fires.
The biggest methane leakage is from natural gas production. As for enteric fermentation, if you eat less meat, you release less methane.

Methane and Nitrous Oxide are the next biggest problems after Carbon Dioxide.
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#methane
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases#nitrous-oxi
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6ix, I expect a Trump voter to be an ignoramus about climate change and you did as expected. Before embracing Covid-19 denial, there was climate denial. Many of the attitudes that have characterized their response to the coronavirus pandemic — refusal to acknowledge facts, accusations that scientists are part of a vast liberal conspiracy, refusal to address the crisis — were foreshadowed in the climate debate.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, August 11, 2021 4:07 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



What It Means When Climate Scientists Say They're Certain

The use of the word ‘unequivocal’ in the IPCC’s latest report was no small step for science-speak.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-10/what-it-means-that-
ipcc-scientists-are-certain

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Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said, during debate on the budget reconciliation negotiations, that climate change would once again be a central focus.

“The future of our planet looks bleak until we do something, right now. And the budget reconciliation bill will do more to combat climate change than any legislation — ever — in the history of the Senate. That is a promise,” Schumer said on the Senate floor Monday.

Republicans are not on board with that plan. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., introduced an amendment that would prohibit “legislation or regulations to implement the Green New Deal.”

“I am offering this amendment to spare the country from the so-called Green New Deal,” Barrasso said on the Senate floor Tuesday. “The Green New Deal is not about protecting the environment. It’s about making big government even bigger. This socialist scheme would destroy jobs, it will reduce the quality of life for the American people. Millions and millions of Americans will suffer.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., then took to the floor and lashed out at Barrasso.

“In case the senator from Wyoming has missed it, Oregon is burning, California is burning, Greece is burning. There is a drought hitting virtually every country on Earth,” Sanders said. “News flash: Climate change is real, and the United States and other countries have got to address it.”

https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-largely-silent-on-code-red-climate-
change-report-183009586.html

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