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The Pax is in the Vax
Wednesday, August 11, 2021 6:24 PM
DREAMTROVE
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Yes. You don't get to leave for four years and ask questions like this.
Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:15 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Odds of Dying From COVID-19 Unvaccinated vs. Vaccinated In Georgia, the unvaccinated are 87 times more likely to die than the vaccinated. In Texas, 85 times. For the nation as a whole, it's probably around 40 times.
Wednesday, August 11, 2021 10:40 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: DT What I'd really appreciate is any links regarding syncytin-1 and aging, syncytin-1 and 2-nonenal (or its further metabolites), or syncytin-1 and aging and 2-nonenal; because I can find no links between then at first pass through.
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: 1kiki Sorry, I'll get to it. I'm very sick atm. There's not any doubt of these links in the scientific community, so there will be thousands of articles on this I'm sure I can dig up some good ones. The short is that omega 7 breaks down into 2-nonenal and other stuff, but the 2-nonenal is consumed in syncytin synthesis, if that's not happening, it's exuded in sweat giving off a powerful odor. Zeke Walker is the young vaccinated and so gives off far more than an actual old person, because he has far more omega 7 metabolism to begin with. I'll find links later and post here
Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: A vaccinated customer came in a few weeks ago, to a party we were having, and everyone got sick with symptoms that exactly matched his moderna vaccine and nothing else. . . . https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/how-to-protect-your-health-after-the-jab/ From that page: “I call the [COVID] vaccine ‘Zyklon-V.’ That is the gas the Nazis used to kill my relatives. So to express my sentiments, I call it Zyklon-V. It’s an absolute weapon of mass destruction. People are being lied to, and they’re running into the gas chambers themselves because of the pathogenic fear.” The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: A vaccinated customer came in a few weeks ago, to a party we were having, and everyone got sick with symptoms that exactly matched his moderna vaccine and nothing else. . . . https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/07/04/how-to-protect-your-health-after-the-jab/
Thursday, August 12, 2021 9:22 AM
Thursday, August 12, 2021 10:16 AM
Friday, August 13, 2021 12:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: https://thebulletin.org/2020/09/scientists-are-working-on-vaccines-that-spread-like-a-disease-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/
Friday, August 13, 2021 12:53 PM
Friday, August 13, 2021 1:48 PM
Friday, August 13, 2021 8:41 PM
Friday, August 13, 2021 10:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: The website doesn't auto-load from https. You have to get rid of the 's'. Here's you link, reposted:
Friday, August 13, 2021 11:59 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 1:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: So DT, I'm sure you're aware that you're making some extreme claim
Saturday, August 14, 2021 1:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: The website doesn't auto-load from https. You have to get rid of the 's'. Here's you link, reposted:
Saturday, August 14, 2021 4:33 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: So DT, I'm sure you're aware that you're making some extreme claim It's a speculation. Worst case scenario. I suspect that everyone's condition will likely vary. Consider how this immune response is actually triggered. trillions of direct interactions between immune cells and viruses that will result in a possible error and self-attack. Each individual interaction is a chance. Every time someone is getting a shot, they're also upping this chance, and other chances. I've so far seen half a dozen locals who have this specific problem, but half have also developed a secondary autoimmmune disorder. That's probably not directly due to the contents of the spike protein, but due to the strength of the immune response. Next, what if any chance is there that corrective mechanisms will undo this error and the condition will heal? Is this low syncytin condition permanent? or does it recover? Next, what % of people who get the vax have this problem? We have a gestapo-like approach to pro vax from authority like the world has never seen, and it's likely not going to be fair on any data. I doubt it's 100%, but it's greater than 0% Next, what's the effect of no syncytin on the system long term. We know human and mouse babies born with no syncytin are 100% stillborn, so that doesn't bode well, it also gives us no data on how an adult with the condition would fair. My guess would be "not well" but that's definitely a guess. Things I've found so far that require syncytin: sperm and egg formation embryo creating, implantation and placenta formation fetal development blood supply replacement immune response muscle and skin repair, and healing in general So what happens in the absence of syncytin? IDK, but I'm going to suspect all of these things will happen at a much slower rate. 10%? 1%? So, for the record I said 5-10 years, not 1-2.. I think there will be some casualties in 1-2 years, but not from rapid aging, but from autoimmune conditions. Syncytin doesn't have a role in the elderly, the elderly have no syncytin. The rate at which the ederly age, however, is clearly many times as fast as the rate at which young and middle aged. This is why this vax makes you elderly. If you're already elderly, it probably doesn't have many adverse effects. I'm aware it's not a complete overlap, between the spike protein and syncytin but it's enough that with trillions of encounters, it will likely happen, and has clearly happened. The thing that should make people incredibly suspicious is the completely naziesque way this is being pushed. No policy pushed this hard is in your best interests, and most of them in the history of the world have been genocide in some form. This one I got to "this is genocide" from science. I was not at all there until I started researching the old person smell. Now I see many other people have gotten there, and their data and conclusions all seem basically identical to my own, which is not something I typically see in conspiracy theories. It's something I typically see in science. So, I got here through science, and so did everyone else who ended up at the same place. Everyone on the opposing side got there through watching television and obeying an authoritarian globalist corporate superstate that all of them on some level know is trying to kill them. So that's where my feeling on it lie, it's kind of obvious which side is closer to the truth. Now for specifics, my specifics are guesses. And what happens if I'm proven wrong? I'll be delighted. And me and anyone else who joined me in this skepticism will have missed out on a banana. Which is to say, we'll have ended up getting one more common cold than the rest of the world. On the other hand, if my suspicions and those of the other skeptics* are true, then those people who take the skeptic approach will be called "the population of the earth" and the covid believers will be called "daisy food" * who I have to point out are far more credible scientists than those promoting the vax So it's a situation where regardless of the odds of each scenario, if one scenario is true, it has almost no impact on the lives of anyone, and if the other scenario is true, then it's the most important thing in the world. And it's hard to see why the global elite would push so hard as to risk everything they have for something that they thought was insignificant. There's clearly no data backing up the idea that COVID is a significant threat to the world, so that only leaves the vax On the connection, it's there's a direct connection with estradiol, which is the activation protein for syncytin-1. Estradiol levels decline with age in direct connection with 2-nonenal as I posted earlier. The way in which they relate is that no estrogen or no testosterone can lead to no estradiol, which in turn leads to the activation of no syncytin, which leads to no consumption of omega 7 breakdown products which leads to the formation of 2-nonenal in perspiration. I think that was pretty direct and I was just missing the estradiol part of the metabolism when I was first trying to recall, but I posted it here in this thread already. Anyway, all of that said, if the only effect is that women of child bearing age become sterile, then it still genocides the entire species.
Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:14 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:16 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 5:19 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:43 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You don't need any links about the gestapo-like approach to getting vaccinated across the world. They're pretty in your face about it. It's hard to miss unless you're intentionally trying not to see it.
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: You don't need any links about the gestapo-like approach to getting vaccinated across the world. They're pretty in your face about it. It's hard to miss unless you're intentionally trying not to see it. that is gestapo like, the gestapo weren't subtle.
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The human race will get what it deserves.
Saturday, August 14, 2021 8:59 PM
Saturday, August 14, 2021 11:53 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The human race will get what it deserves. No, it doesn't. This is about kids. Children are being sterilized by their lunatic parents. They will also have possible rapid aging and auto immune dysfunctions. This is someone attacking your population with bioweapons, and if you shrug, you're part of the problem. There's basically two groups of people in this world right now. Those trying to fight the beast, and those that are not. Everyone who is not trying to fight the beast might as well be the beast, for all their creator cares.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 3:04 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 5:07 AM
Quote: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12046519_2-Nonenal_Newly_Found_in_Human_Body_Odor_Tends_to_Increase_with_Aging Furthermore, analysis of skin surface lipids revealed that omega7 unsaturated fatty acids and lipid peroxides also increased with aging and that there were positive correlations between the amount of 2-nonenal in body odor and the amount of omega7 unsaturated fatty acids or lipid peroxides in skin surface lipids.
Quote: https://academic.oup.com/humupd/article/10/6/487/626523 Syncytin: the major regulator of trophoblast fusion The gene appears to be almost exclusively expressed in placenta
Sunday, August 15, 2021 9:08 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: All of the lies in the M$M were just mind-fucks, and people have definitely had their minds fucked with.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 9:32 AM
Sunday, August 15, 2021 11:38 AM
Sunday, August 15, 2021 1:34 PM
Sunday, August 15, 2021 1:58 PM
Quote: DREAMTROVE: One of the criticisms of the vax that I haven't posted here is that people who get the vax have a higher rate of Covid infection than those who don't. I've seen that posted everywhere in varying analysis and heard from many people who did get the vax and then got the Covid, vs. very few people (>0 okay) but very few who got the Covid without getting the vax first. That's a fucking useless vaccine. It doesn't even lessen the severity of your sickness if you do get covid, it increases the inflammatory response and covid doesn't really pose a health risk outside of the inflammatory response, hence why people have a worse reaction.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 2:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI: DT - I have gone to - and read - every one of your links. And I have assiduously looked up all the topics you've brought up on my own. In any case, what I posted before I still mean. I'll wait till you're feeling better. If this is important to understand, then there's no hurry that a few days or weeks or months won't endure. To be clear, I'm looking for actual biochemistry or research-level information.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 2:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: DREAMTROVE: One of the criticisms of the vax that I haven't posted here is that people who get the vax have a higher rate of Covid infection than those who don't. I've seen that posted everywhere in varying analysis and heard from many people who did get the vax and then got the Covid, vs. very few people (>0 okay) but very few who got the Covid without getting the vax first. That's a fucking useless vaccine. It doesn't even lessen the severity of your sickness if you do get covid, it increases the inflammatory response and covid doesn't really pose a health risk outside of the inflammatory response, hence why people have a worse reaction. every study that I ever found showed the opposite. The Israeli study showed a 40% effectiveness in PREVENTING infection comparing vax to unvax, and the Mayo study (30,000+ people in each cohort of Moderna, Pfizer/BNT, and unvaxed, each individual matched for sex, age, race etc) regularly tested for SARS-Cov2 ALSO showed an approx 40% effectiveness against infection for Pfizer/BNT and a higher effeciveness (I forget, maybe 65%) for Moderna. I have seen no such study that says otherwise. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 3:20 PM
Quote:similarity with synctins
Sunday, August 15, 2021 3:25 PM
Sunday, August 15, 2021 3:32 PM
Quote:originally posted by dreamtrove: there's direct genetic overlap.
Quote: If there were no similarities, then there wouldn't be vaccine related syncytin deficient people who I know in reality.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Show me where.
Quote:How do you know this? Were they tested for synctin before and after vaccination?
Quote: I know people IRL too, women who were pregnant and got vaccinated and delivered healthy babies.
Quote:But, we can all point to individuals that we know who present conflicting data. In the end, you have to look at a LOT of people to see what is happening IRL.
Quote:BTW, it's possible to OPPOSE mandatory vaccination without believing stories about the vaccine being part of the depopulation agenda, which is where I am today.
Quote:Yes, I understand that TPTB have spoken often about depopulation, and a bioweapon and/or universal vaccine would be the IDEAL mechanism to achieve that goal. But right now, not seeing any compelling evidence that shows that this is the case. I will keep an open mind about it. One possible avenue is that the vaccine (somehow) has a delayed effect. Peace out.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:39 PM
SOCKPUPPET
Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Six, I forgot about that, you already posted it. And Sig got upset that I said she was off her rocker but she knows. She once spent weeks or months hunting down River6213 who was a serious schitzo, but Sig posting Death Loving Cunt after every single River post was psycho enough that people started taking the ShadowFly thing seriously. I'm not pretending this place isn't what it. It's a looney bin. Anyway, thanks for reminding me of that. That's why I never PM people anything anymore.
Quote:And I was calling you out because it's a cop out. "Let them die" is just a lazy position. And no, still not a sock puppet. I'm not River6213 and don't have long threads talking to myself.
Quote:Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET: Pax is fun.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 4:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I still can't figure out why you don't remember us posting 4 years ago after I'd sobered up though.
Quote:Let them die isn't a lazy position. It's an "I don't give a fuck" position.
Quote:If I had kids, they would be homeschooled now like my friend is doing this year.
Sunday, August 15, 2021 8:10 PM
Monday, August 16, 2021 10:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I still can't figure out why you don't remember us posting 4 years ago after I'd sobered up though. literal brain damage. I had encephalitis in 2017 from bad chicken, and suffered some serious brain damage. The most notable part was bing blind in my dreams, and not being able to read and write and having to learn all over again. That would lead to me not posting anything. I remember on email I wrote that looked like this wreff nud setti wan dous tal. hepp so dimut radden hop? At that point I decided to stop trying to communicate. So, it wasn't so much a rage quit as when I left in 2013, but I don't really remember posting here at all. I remember posting on bitcoin forums. Quote:Let them die isn't a lazy position. It's an "I don't give a fuck" position. fair enough Quote:If I had kids, they would be homeschooled now like my friend is doing this year. oh absofuckinglutely. what rabbithole? ps. as i said that reposting of a PM and me abandoning the concept did strike a chord in my brain but to be fair, i have no idea if it was that message to you or something else. I was having my brain eaten by a bacteria
Monday, August 16, 2021 8:32 PM
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