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The Yemen Thread
Wednesday, March 8, 2017 8:59 PM
DREAMTROVE
Monday, March 13, 2017 7:22 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: I think this has been missing for a while. Here's some pasta, I'll try to add more. NYT: U.S. Air Campaign in Yemen Killed Guantánamo Ex-Prisoner By ERIC SCHMITTMARCH 6, 2017 Graffiti in Sana, Yemen, protested American drone operations in the country last year. The United States has carried out over 40 airstrikes in the country in the past week. Credit Yahya Arhab/European Pressphoto Agency WASHINGTON — For a fifth consecutive night, American warplanes and drones on Monday pummeled suspected Qaeda targets in Yemen as the Pentagon said an earlier attack in the country had killed a former prisoner held at the United States detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. Capt. Jeff Davis, a Pentagon spokesman, said an airstrike last Thursday — the first night of a larger Pentagon campaign to roll back gains made by Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or A.Q.A.P. — killed the former detainee, who was using the name Yasir Ali Abdallah al Silmi. While at Guantánamo, he was held as Detainee No. 679 and went by the name Mohammed Tahar, according to military records... Read more http://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/world/middleeast/yemen-airstrikes-qaeda.html?_r=0 Saudi-led coalition used cluster bombs in Yemen: Amnesty AFP on March 9, 2017, 1:42 pm Share Tweet Email Dubai (AFP) - Amnesty International on Thursday accused the Saudi-led Arab coalition battling rebels in Yemen of using banned cluster munitions in raids on residential areas. VIDEO The Saudi-led coalition intensifies air strikes on the Yemen port of Hodeidah, potentially trapping civilians, the United Nations human rights office says. The Brazilian-manufactured munitions were fired in a February 15 attack on three residential districts and agricultural land in Saada province of northern Yemen, a stronghold of the Shiite Huthi rebels, it said in a statement. Two people were wounded in the attack, said Amnesty, which has also reported that the coalition used cluster munitions in October 2015 and May of last year... http://nz.news.yahoo.com/world/a/34600830/saudi-led-coalition-used-cluster-bombs-in-yemen-amnesty/#page1 YEMEN has reportedly demanded the US halt ground operations in its country unless they have permission after a raid green-lighted by Donald Trump killed civilians. Yemeni officials are said to have confirmed their government has sent a firm message to the White House condemning the January 29 operation that left one US Navy Seal dead along with women and children. Anwar al-Awlaki aged 8 died in a US raid Eight-year-old daughter of radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki was among those killed in the US raid. US Seal William “Ryan” Owens also died in the Saudi led attack Speaking anonymously to CNN, one official said: “The green light the US had for conducting ground missions is now red.” This is because of the botched raid and the fact the government was not consulted about it going ahead, it’s claimed. Foreign minister Abdul Malik Al Mekhlafi later condemned the raid in a Twitter post as “extrajudicial killings”. Photographs of children apparently killed in the crossfire caused outrage in Yemen, reports The Times. The eight-year-old daughter of Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical cleric and US citizen who was killed in a drone strike in 2011, was reportedly among those killed... http://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2817449/donald-trump-yemen-bans-us-raid-al-qaeda-bases-after-new-presidents-first-raid-killed-little-girl-and-us-marine This US-Saudi mission Claimed the lives of two American citizens, and 9 children. The target: Nawar al-Awlaki And US Navy Seal William "Ryan" Owens Also here: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/yemen-strike-eight-year-old-american-girl-killed-al-awlaki And here, with Glenn Greenwald: http://theintercept.com/2017/01/30/obama-killed-a-16-year-old-american-in-yemen-trump-just-killed-his-8-year-old-sister/ ETA: Interesting take, I don't know this site. It looks like some high level globalist think tank blog. http://www.justsecurity.org/38543/hitting-iran-doesnt-hurt-u-s-intervention-yemen-backfire/ just security http://www.stimson.org/programs/just-security-2020 launch http://www.nyu.edu/washington-dc/nyu-washington--dc-events/just-security-blog-launch.html Russian perspective http://www.rt.com/op-edge/248269-yemen-oil-saudi-mandeb-strait/ oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Despite-Conflict-Yemen-Tries-To-Win-International-Oil-Firms-Back.html
Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Not sure I follow the point you are trying to make. You support the eradication of terrorists, murderers? You support the use of children as shields from surgically targeted strikes? You bemoan the loss of beloved and acclaimed innocent Gitmo detainees? You prefer Trump wait about 7 years before cleaning up the gene pool?
Tuesday, March 14, 2017 7:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Not sure I follow the point you are trying to make. You support the eradication of terrorists, murderers? You support the use of children as shields from surgically targeted strikes? You bemoan the loss of beloved and acclaimed innocent Gitmo detainees? You prefer Trump wait about 7 years before cleaning up the gene pool?That's pretty appalling. Genetic terrorists? Also, terror suspects include children? And terror suspects are somehow terrorists without ever having a trial? i'm sorry, my point was this: It's their fucking country. No terrorists. It's Yemen, and the Yemeni are trying, and have been, to separated themselves since the end of the cold war, why are we bombing them? because they're too close to "our" oil, so we're backing the saudi campaign to annex them. And oh look, a large number of false narratives from both sides. I grant there's such a thing as a genetic male, but not a genetic terrorist
Tuesday, March 14, 2017 9:38 PM
RIVERLOVE
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: The target: Nawar al-Awlaki
Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:50 PM
SOCKPUPPET
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Just horrible that this beautiful child and 8 others along with the American casualties died for what? ... some supposed Al Qaida computer hard drives? And this supposed "intelligence" changes what exactly? What was so important that she had to die for it?
Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SOCKPUPPET: Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Just horrible that this beautiful child and 8 others along with the American casualties died for what? ... some supposed Al Qaida computer hard drives? And this supposed "intelligence" changes what exactly? What was so important that she had to die for it? So true, all so Saudi's can invade and control the Suez oil trade. It's what we do. Clinton, Bush, Obama, and now Trump. She was a US citizen too. You'd think someone'd raise hell, but you know the score: oppose the politician, not the war. Meh.
Wednesday, March 15, 2017 9:06 PM
Quote:JSF: So you're saying the Yemeni have been trying to separate themselves within Yemen between terrorists and peaceful factions?
Quote:Do you feel the peaceful factions are being out-shouted or overshadowed by the terrorist bent?
Quote: Do you feel the peaceful factions were well served by Obama's Middle East policies?
Quote:Do you feel the Saudis created the perception than Yemenis are enemies of America?
Quote:As part of their long-term strategy to acquire Yemen?
Quote:Does Yemen have something special that the Saudis want?
Quote:G: For the glory of Trump! He doesn't seem to have the intelligence or empathy to connect the action with the consequences, or the consequences with real people, or real people with any personal responsibility. He's been living in that King Trump land for too long.
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: I'm not going to start screaming "war crime", but someone must be held accountable for killing these kids. The United States cannot kill children and just brush their deaths off as collateral damage. No General, no Intelligence bigwig, no President, no one could ever justify these Yemeni children's deaths, or even come close to answering satisfactorily to the anger I feel over this.
Thursday, March 16, 2017 3:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: I agree complete. The attack on Nawar "Nora" al-Awlaki and the other children is unjustifiable and requires an investigation. We have a few options. petitions.whitehouse.gov twitter.com/realDonaldTrump
Quote:Trump needs to know that those of us who accept him as president are not supporters or followers, and this is not going to be like the bush or obama years where this sort of story is a weekly occurance and nothing ever gets done. At least a head must roll, that will be sufficient to stop them from doing it again.
Thursday, March 16, 2017 7:26 PM
6STRINGJOKER
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Just horrible that this beautiful child and 8 others along with the American casualties died for what? ... some supposed Al Qaida computer hard drives? And this supposed "intelligence" changes what exactly? What was so important that she had to die for it? For the glory of Trump! He doesn't seem to have the intelligence or empathy to connect the action with the consequences, or the consequences with real people, or real people with any personal responsibility. He's been living in that King Trump land for too long.
Thursday, March 16, 2017 8:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Riverlove: Where's Amnesty Int'l., The World Court, or even the UN in all this? They're always crying about some stupid thing or another, but when there's something real like this, nada?
Quote:It's a horrible thing and you're right about heads rolling. It makes Benghazi look like a Sunday picnic.
Friday, March 24, 2017 9:58 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Just horrible that this beautiful child and 8 others along with the American casualties died for what? ... some supposed Al Qaida computer hard drives? And this supposed "intelligence" changes what exactly? What was so important that she had to die for it? - RL For the glory of Trump! Obama/ Hillary! S/He doesn't seem to have the intelligence or empathy to connect the action with the consequences, or the consequences with real people, or real people with any personal responsibility. S/He's been living in that King Neocon land for too long.
Quote:7mn people face starvation as Yemen heads towards man-made famine – Oxfam The situation in war-ravaged Yemen is starting to resemble a man-made famine, with almost seven million people “knowingly” pushed towards starvation, the latest report from the international humanitarian organization Oxfam says. The ongoing “complex and bloody [civil] war” between the Houthi rebels and forces loyal to ousted President Mansur Hadi has led to the deaths of thousands, as the conflict peaked in 2015, the paper says. Attempts by the Saudi-led coalition to drive back the Houthis have only added to the plight of the people. Over the past year, “airstrikes and fighting” have led to the deaths of around 7,600 people, with an average of 70 deaths a day, Oxfam said, calling on the world to not ignore the misery in the region. “The world is now confronting… the largest humanitarian crisis since the creation of the United Nations, with more than 20 million people facing starvation and famine in South Sudan, Nigeria, Somalia and Yemen.” Read more Smoke rises from Al Hudaydah city of Yemen after Saudi-led coalition air attack to Houthis' quarters in Yemen © Abdu Muhammed Yahya Haydar / Anadolu Agency / Getty Images Saudi-led coalition's port op would cut off Yemen from food & aid supplies, Russia warns Yemen, already the “poorest country in the region” prior to the conflict, has been sliding deeper into chaos and poverty over the past two years. The Saudi-led coalition forces “knowingly” worsen it, according to the report. “Ports, roads and bridges, along with warehouses, farms and markets have been regularly destroyed by the Saudi-led coalition, draining the country’s food stocks,” the paper says. It also casts some blame for the misery on the Houthi rebels, who it claims are “delaying the delivery of life-saving relief, and sometimes detaining aid workers.” “This, coupled with a flattened economy, has created an abyss of hunger and a serious threat of famine.”
Friday, March 24, 2017 12:44 PM
Friday, March 24, 2017 12:54 PM
Friday, March 24, 2017 4:53 PM
Friday, March 24, 2017 5:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by DREAMTROVE: I find the media silence on this issue disturbing, they wouldn't even touch it for a chance to hurt Trump. What's that all about?
Friday, March 24, 2017 11:54 PM
Saturday, March 25, 2017 10:40 AM
Quote:My problem with YOU, G, and the source of my snark, is that you're all broken up about one girl but don't seem to care too much about the tens of thousands of girls who are very much the same. In other words, it's your lack of objectivity that troubles me. There are so many Obama apologists on the board and he is responsible for so many real issues that it's a little hard not to react when people ignore them. Especially since these issues HAVE NOT ENDED. - SIGNY And bullshit. I expressly, DIRECTLY wrote to you on this board about that very thing, and even f*cking agreeing with you.
Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:58 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER: I think a huge reason that the MSM doesn't discuss drones much is it doesn't want to scare us out of using them. Once it becomes a daily occurrence for most of us to see them because the civilians are using them, it probably won't be that hard for the Government to start passing laws and flying their own in the name of "public safety". How long thereafter do they start equipping those surveillance drones with weapons in the name of public safety?
Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by G: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You did? Where? Either I didn't read your post or I forgot it. That needs to be your new sig-nature. The Rick Perry excuse. "It's not my fault if I forget!"
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: You did? Where? Either I didn't read your post or I forgot it.
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