We Used To Make Stuff Work. by JEWELSTAITEFAN

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We Used To Make Stuff Work.

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UPDATED: Thursday, March 7, 2024 07:34
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Friday, August 5, 2022 3:50 AM

I have been without a working phone since Sunday. Finally seem to have one which works for more than a couple hours. Still cannot use it to log in here or post here. That malfunction first surfaced for me on July 5 when google forced an update on my phone at that time, rendering it unusable for here.
Went through 5 new phones starting Sunday, and Walmart experts could not get the Walmart phones to work for more than a few minutes, then finally a few hours.

About 12 hours spent on Walmart landline phones (while standing) with Tech Support during that stretch.

I've come to realize that we have grown accustomed to, and accepting of, everything not working. That is just the new normal.

Got lost in the "On Hold" loop? expected.
Nobody knows how to get anything working? nobody is surprised.
No phone can work without google Play Store - meaning they need to track every search, click, and body movement you do? people are shocked that I don't want to be tracked, don't want the Nanny State to keep track of my location, habits, and passwords for me.
Cannot open an account using a valid mailing address for the mailing address? nobody surprised.
Nobody at Tech Support can speak English? old news.
Nobody can graduate High School possessing a High School education? of course.
College graduates cannot pass an 8th Grade graduation exam from 1895? big deal.

Everybody signs dictionary-length legal contracts without bothering to read a word of it.
Everybody accepts giving all of your personal data to the Nanny State.
Nobody can add, subtract, multiply or divide without a handheld computer. And everybody accepts this as normal.
Everybody expects to be tracked, all the time.

It used to be that we made things work. If something didn't work, we fixed it or made it work correctly.
Now everybody just accepts that nothing works, and nobody expects anything to work.

Side note:
About 20 years ago, I realized the key to making the machines work at my work was to LET them work. The machines were not designed to fail all the time, jam all the time, stop all the time, have errors all the time. Not engineered to, either. Not built to, either. So many people, Operators, Supervisors, Managers, Maintenance had spent so many years toiling with non-working machines as a habitual state, that they had no idea how to let the machines work properly.
Once I helped them learn, the machines actually worked wonderfully, error-free and jam-free. The best performing in the nation.

It just seems that everybody from prior generations have given up.
And newer generations have no expectation that anything will ever work.

Stolen Election? ho hum, what's new.

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Friday, August 5, 2022 6:31 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Stolen Election? ho hum, what's new.

It was the fckin' Hamburgler - case solved.

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Friday, August 5, 2022 10:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
It just seems that everybody from prior generations have given up.
And newer generations have no expectation that anything will ever work.

The good generations died off, mostly.

The Boomer Generation ruined the wealth in America. (And, if you haven't noticed, are the ones still clinging on to the positions of power in the government for dear life even though their brains failed their bodies a long time ago).

GenX is responsible for letting Democrats raise the Millennials.

Millennials are cancer.

GenZ is barely human.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

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Friday, August 5, 2022 1:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I just got a new phone, and needed Playstore to download some apps - like a browser - that I want. When you do that, you need Google Playstore, which means that I needed to have a Google account set up. Once you log into Google from your phone, EVERYTHING on your phone is stored in/passes thru "the [google] cloud" - your texts, searches, phone calls, pictures ... they are not stored on your device. This is even if you disable most of the google apps and lock apps permissions down. Whatever used to be stored on your device is now stored elsewhere.

Now that I have the apps that I want, I'm going to xfer all my photos off the phone. I routinely delete my texts anyway, so the only thing I want to keep are my contacts, which I am going to xfer from my old phone to my new phone using USB cable after I factory-reset my phone. That, I am told, will remove that google account info that is semi-permanently stuck in my phone.

Been too busy to deal with that right now. But once I try, I'll let you know how it worked.

My personal phone-related grotch: Apps that look like they were written by monkeys that don't talk to each other. Every app has a different menu and different ways of doing simple stuff, like deleting or copying an item. Some apps can't even do simple things, like delete or store individual items.

AFA shit "not working" ... yes, we get a lot of shit that doesn't work. Cars with bad software. Phones and electronic devices that need routine restarting/rebooting bc they suffer from bad programming (buffer overflow or bad memory management). We used to see that even in the lab: We had to reboot our GC/MSs once a week bc of buffer overflow, which would lock up the instruments. There was even an air traffic control radar station in Riverside (IIRC, it may have been San Bernadino) that crashed bc someone didn't give it its weekly three-fingered salute (ctrl+alt+delete)

An even the mechanical stuff... all the shit that comes from China with bad QC. Three GC/MSs made in China ... one came in so dirty it needed a two-week bakeout and two with faulty flow-controllers. Coffee grinders that used to be made in Germany (Krupps) now made in China that burn up after a month. Tools that don't quite work, made with plastic parts that fail.

I hear ya, dood.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

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Friday, August 5, 2022 6:37 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
No phone can work without google Play Store - meaning they need to track every search, click, and body movement you do? people are shocked that I don't want to be tracked, don't want the Nanny State to keep track of my location, habits, and passwords for me.
Cannot open an account using a valid mailing address for the mailing address? nobody surprised.

Not true. I hear Motorola is expected to bring back their Razr phones later this year.

If I ever get a cellphone again, this is the one I'm going to get... or whatever one from the company is around this price when I do:

https://sunbeamwireless.com/product/sunbeam-f1-orchid/

Quote:
F1 Orchid – with Navigation and Weather

$195.00

The Orchid is for those who want to keep life simple, call your friends, text your family, and still find your way home again.

With added features like Weather and Navigation, but no browser or social media to distract you from what really matters, the Orchid is an excellent choice.

(Charging dock, battery, and 120VAC charger included with purchase)
(No SIM card included – Please use your SIM from a compatible cellular carrier)

What they're not mentioning here is that it's also got a camera on it that's much closer to what you'd get on a good iPhone than what you'd get on some cheap piece of crap flip phone from Consumer Cellular.

Some of the Millinnials and early GenZ crowd is breaking out of the Matrix and making Dumb Phones a thing again, and the Sunbeam line of phones hands down seem to be their go-to choice for it.

It's the small sliver of hope I have for the future of humanity.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

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Thursday, March 7, 2024 7:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Musk disliked by GM and Ford

Boeing review finds 'disconnect' on safety
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-68409029

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