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So... Nobody wants to talk about the worst Presidential speech given in any living American's lifetime?

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Friday, September 2, 2022 10:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Gee... I wonder why that is?


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Friday, September 2, 2022 11:02 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


LIVE FROM HELL: IT'S DARTH LORD BIDEN*!




And no. I didn't manipulate this image at all.

Somebody thought the colors were a great idea, along with putting marines standing behind him while delivering the most politically charged and decisive speech any American president has ever given before.

They must have tapped into Hillary's baby blood supply for this speech too, along with loading Joe* up with a truckload of amphetamines. Sleepy mush-brain Joe* was nowhere to be found last night. We got a glimpse of "GET OFF MY YARD!" Joe* and how he hates half of the country without the usual constant Classic Joe* gaffes and brain farts.

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Friday, September 2, 2022 11:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This is the best opportunity to call out bad behavior from your side that you've ever had, Ted, Cap'n and Second.

Ignoring the fact this speech took place is the same as condoning it.

You do so at your own peril.

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Friday, September 2, 2022 2:56 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I haven't seen it, but ppl are comparing it to a scene from the movie "V".



Meanwhile, the alt media is having a field day

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Biden's Hateful Rhetoric Against Americans Presents GOP With A Sterling Opportunity

Friday, Sep 02, 2022 - 04:45 PM
Authored by Rajan Laad via American Thinker

Whenever political leaders lose all political capital due to their misgovernance and have no real issues to base their campaign on, they often resort to focusing on the symbolic -- usually referring to ‘the soul of the nation.’

This happened before in the U.S., it happened in India, it happened in the U.K. and it happened again in the U.S.

This is most typical of the left.

Instead of being humble and conceding their mistakes, they attack voters for thinking of voting against them while overlooking the myriad catastrophes they presided over.

They often blame their opponents for what they are guilty of -- i.e., bigotry and violence, and then end with the 'soul' plea.

Biden delivered his ‘soul’ speech at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, the birthplace of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

The manner of delivery was unhinged; he frequently waved his fists aggressively. His voice was hoarse, perhaps owing to recent bouts with Covid-19, giving the speech a scornful tone.

Biden spoke flanked by uniformed Marines, while his backdrop was bathed in blood-red hues making it look like an ominous hellscape.

His speech was a sequel to his recent addresses where he claimed that he doesn’t respect MAGA Republicans and that MAGA philosophy is like "semi-fascism."

Biden called for Americans to “unite behind the single purpose of defending our democracy regardless of your ideology.”

But Biden added a caveat that this didn’t apply to “MAGA forces’ -- i.e., all those scores of millions

75 million voters

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who voted for and intend to vote for MAGA candidates.

Biden said that "too much of what's happening in our country today isn't normal."

Biden is right here, but the blame for this lies on him.

Never before have government institutions been hijacked and misused to target political opponents.

Not entirely true. The FBI, CIA and IRS targeted, at various times, anti-Vietnam war activists, Black Panthers, and conservative activists. The fight went all the way up to Presidents and Presidential candidates; two Kennedys were assassinated.

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Never before has a virus been misused to impose lockdowns that infringe on the right to freedom of movement and the right to earn a living.
True, that.

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Never before have vaccines been mandated causing people to be fired from their jobs or suffer from health issues.

Never before has the U.S. government demonized its own citizens, calling them domestic terrorists.

Never before has the U.S. government set up a ‘Disinformation Governance Board’ that sits in judgment of the utterances of citizens.

Never before has the U.S. been subjected to prolonged disinformation campaigns, the Russian collusion hoax, the Ukraine call hoax, and now the insurrection hoax.



ALL of our "wars of choice" began with disinformation campaigns: the bigger the war, the bigger the campaign.
But this is a war against half of the American people. No wonder they're trying to whip up the other half into a frenzy!

When the decades (and most recent two years) of gross mismanagement come home to roost, TPTB are going to need massive repression just to stay in power. It's called "the great reset": where you will own nothing and be afraid to express unhappiness.

MORE AT https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/09/bidens_hateful_rhetoric_a
gainst_american_presents_the_gop_with_a_sterling_opportunity_.html



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Friday, September 2, 2022 7:55 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Looks Dystopia the whole thing sounded 'Bizarre'

I think I could hear some in the far away the crowd say "Let's Go Brandon"

Colors and sound, its weird audio and optics, they look crazy, very Stalin like or DPRK, also gives off that V for Vendetta or Red Skull or Kane horror guy from wrestling or horror video game Doom vibe.

...no Star Wars vibe, the Empire about to fall, imperial royal praetorian guard 'Crimson' vibes that's what I'm getting

It's kinda dumb and funny in a way, shitting words of division and blood across the building where the declaration of independence was signed, it would be funnier if it was politics was so tragic.

didn't watch but from what we know so far he's corrupt, maybe at times too old for the job and gives off that vibe of dementia senile while is why the Taliban decided to overrun Afghanmistan so quick. What dirty cash is going on behind the scenes, he's probably even far more twisted and corrupt than Trump was, basically says if you voted Trump not Hillary you might be terroristic, channels Bush jnr and more or less says you're either with us or you other Magas are offending socialism and you're with the terrorists. Who runs this stage show anymore? guys and girls writing the script and the money machine that controls the teleprompter seems to have far mroe power over him. Stateenforced Neo-Democrat nu-Leftism becomes the official stance of the Temple Cathedral?

Its crazy how they thought this political MTV stage show calling out Magas would be a good idea, the new-left seems more "unhinged" than ever. Might also be a set up to make Biden more batshit crazy than usual, Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelsoi step in while Article 25 clarifies that the vice president becomes president if the president basically goes nuts or is removed from office. Heil Biden accuses you're either with Hunter Biden, or with the terrorists?

Politics continues to divide go more partisan biased and polarized

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Friday, September 2, 2022 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I see Second posted his vomit in the other threads but has no interest in touching this one.



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Friday, September 2, 2022 11:41 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Enjoy!

BTW when it first started I thought it was a parody. But no parody is 25 minutes long!




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Saturday, September 3, 2022 12:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Enjoy!



That's not exactly the word I would use.





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Saturday, September 3, 2022 12:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Article from before the speech.

https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-semi-fascists-biden-basket-17312754
8.html


Looks like the consensus outside of the sycophants at MSNBC, CNN and all the shit web sites that Second likes to post is that Executive Order Biden* is doing an awful lot of Projection these days.


I just may laugh myself to death when the student loan forgiveness bullshit is struck down in court.

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 8:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Let's stop talking about Trump and Putin for a single day and talk about this, Second.

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 9:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


This fuckin' idiot can't keep from digging himself a deeper hole...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2022/09/02/biden_i_dont_consid
er_any_trump_supporter_a_threat_to_the_country.html


PETER DOOCY: Mr. President, do you think all Trump supporters to be a threat to the country?

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PRESIDENT BIDEN: I don't consider any Trump supporter to be a threat. I do think anyone who calls for the use of violence and intends violence and refuses to acknowledge an election has been won, tinsists upon changing the way the rules you count votes. That is a threat to democracy. Democracy and everything we stand for. Everything we stand for rests on the platform of democracy.

When people voted for Donald Trump, they weren't voting for attacking the Capitol. They' weren't voting for overruling the election. They were voting for a philosophy he put forward. So I'm not talking about anything other than: It is inappropriate and it is not only happening here but in other parts of the world, where there is a failure to condemn violence whenever it is used for political purposes, failure to condemn the attempt to manipulate electoral outcomes, and failure to acknowledge when elections were won or lost.



Save it dipshit.

We watched the country burn down in the summer of 2020 and you motherfuckers not only didn't condemn any of it but you were cheerleading it.

You even let them do it en masse without masks while you shut down everything and even went to the extremes of turning off people's utilities if they had parties you deemed too large.

Get fucked.

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 10:34 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Save it dipshit.

We watched the country burn down in the summer of 2020 and you motherfuckers not only didn't condemn any of it but you were cheerleading it.

You even let them do it en masse without masks while you shut down everything and even went to the extremes of turning off people's utilities if they had parties you deemed too large.

I looked up the history of "riots" and it was Republicans' fault. Once Biden was President, the rioting ended because Trump had wanted rioting to go on and on to help his reelection.

August 26, 2020 10:04 AM - Burning Cities
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/burning-cities/
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Republicans accuse Democratic lawmakers of doing nothing, and that’s not quite the case. Just about every Democratic mayor, governor, and elected official has issued some statement in opposition. Wisconsin governor Tony Evers politely requested, “if you are going to protest, please do so peacefully and safely.” Representative Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri noted that Martin Luther King Jr. never led a demonstration at night.

If the Democrats want to argue that Donald Trump cannot stop additional rioting, because the current rioting is occurring on his watch, they can make that argument. But it is fair to wonder what, if anything, a President Biden would do differently.

I suspect that quite a few Democrats believe — or want to believe — that once Biden is in office, racial tensions will just naturally calm down, various police reform initiatives will go into effect, and American cities will stop being tinderboxes of rage.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Save it dipshit.

We watched the country burn down in the summer of 2020 and you motherfuckers not only didn't condemn any of it but you were cheerleading it.

You even let them do it en masse without masks while you shut down everything and even went to the extremes of turning off people's utilities if they had parties you deemed too large.

I looked up the history of "riots" and it was Republicans' fault. Once Biden was President, the rioting ended because Trump had wanted rioting to go on and on to help his reelection.

Careful, SECOND.
Your REAVERBOT is showing.


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Saturday, September 3, 2022 11:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I wonder. Has any President marched up to the podium holding hand with his wife before?

Are we being prepared for President Jill Biden*?



I can only listen to so much hypocrisy, projection, and smear. I had to break it up into 10-minute chunks, and even then I wanted to wash my ears out with soap.

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:32 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. It certainly wasn't made for sane people.

Second's even vomited in this thread, but it wasn't about the speech. Even Second won't say it was a good speech.

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 6:32 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. It certainly wasn't made for sane people.

Second's even vomited in this thread, but it wasn't about the speech. Even Second won't say it was a good speech.

It was a pleasure listening to a Trump speech because it was absolute proof that the people who approved of him were stupid as hell, which explained why the people I knew weren't doing so well in life. It is hard to get inside their heads to learn what fantasies and misconceptions were ruining them, but Trump put it all on display. If they believed Trump, they were suckers.

Same thing happens with a Biden speech, but once again Biden speeches are a window into the minds of people who approve of Trump. The parts of a Biden speech that makes them angry or scoffing are the parts that explain why those people don't prosper in America.

Trump giving a speech blaming Mexicans for his voters' problems explains too much about his voters, not so much about Trump. Biden giving a speech about immigrants explains much about Trump's voters, too.

Same thing is true about speeches on the last election. How Trump voters react to false accusations about Democrats says much about the honesty of Trump voters. How Trump voters react to truth about cheating by Republicans also says much about the honesty and intelligence of Republicans, explaining why Republicans struggle to stay in the middle class. Republicans aren't honest, aren't smart and they aren't going to do well because of those qualities.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND's feverish post proves that REAVERBOT LIVES!!!


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Saturday, September 3, 2022 9:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND's feverish post proves that REAVERBOT LIVES!!!


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I'll take your word for it. My new rule with Second is if I read one sentence and it has no relation to the thread or whoever he quoted and what they said than I don't read beyond that.

This eliminates 99.8% of Seconds posts.

78% of his posts are especially easy and only require a skim because he starts off more than three quarters of his posts with Trump or a derivative of Trump in the first sentence.



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Saturday, September 3, 2022 9:27 PM

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Here's a cartoon reenactment for Ted's cartoon brain.



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Sunday, September 4, 2022 12:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
SECOND's feverish post proves that REAVERBOT LIVES!!!


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I'll take your word for it. My new rule with Second is if I read one sentence and it has no relation to the thread or whoever he quoted and what they said than I don't read beyond that.

This eliminates 99.8% of Seconds posts.

78% of his posts are especially easy and only require a skim because he starts off more than three quarters of his posts with Trump or a derivative of Trump in the first sentence.



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Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:51 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SignyM:

Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Short enough, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 5:54 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by SignyM:

Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

Hey remember when Republicans were crying because Biden labeled their most extreme members as fascist? Well, you'll never guess…

In #Pennsylvania political rally tonight, Donald Trump declares @JoeBiden is “an enemy of the state.”
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1566219007044231176

Already too long for you, Signym? You'll have to make a mental leap between two lines.

They “have become vicious monsters,” Trump says of the @FBI and @TheJusticeDept.
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1566221736575746049

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 8:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Democrats are the enemy of The People.



The lines are being drawn. Your side is drawing them.

You'd better hope Hunter comes and snorts them all up, because Civil War II is going to last less than a day and it won't end well for Democrats.

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:44 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Democrats are the enemy of The People.

The lines are being drawn. Your side is drawing them.

You'd better hope Hunter comes and snorts them all up, because Civil War II is going to last less than a day and it won't end well for Democrats.

The Republicans’ reaction to Mr. Biden’s speech was remarkable. For years, they stood quietly by as Mr. Trump retweeted a supporter saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat”; vilified and demonized anyone who disagreed with Trump; encouraging supporters to beat up protesters; demanding that his rivals be arrested; accusing critics of treason and even murder; calling opponents “fascists”. But they rose up as one on Thursday night and Friday to complain that Mr. Biden was the one being divisive.

In a remarkable consensus, a new Quinnipiac University poll found that 69 percent of Democrats and 69 percent of Republicans say that democracy is “in danger of collapse.” But one side blames former President Donald J. Trump and his “MAGA Republicans” while the other fingers President Biden and the “socialist Democrats.”

When President Biden delivers a warning about the fate of democracy as he did on Thursday night, the public hears two vastly different messages, underscoring deep rifts in American society. Not only do Americans diverge sharply over important issues like abortion, immigration and the economy, they see the world in fundamentally different and incompatible ways.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220904002438/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/09/02/us/politics/trump-biden-democracy.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:The Republicans’ reaction to Mr. Biden’s speech was remarkable.


Only to somebody who doesn't see any problem with Leftists burning down the cities they live in, or the fact that every major city in America is run by Democrats and falling apart.

And it isn't "Republicans".

It's EVERYBODY who isn't an all-inner on Democrat bullshit.

It's too late to save your party now. Your party needs to go.

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 10:28 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:The Republicans’ reaction to Mr. Biden’s speech was remarkable.


Only to somebody who doesn't see any problem with Leftists burning down the cities they live in, or the fact that every major city in America is run by Democrats and falling apart.

And it isn't "Republicans".

Mr. Trump retweeted a supporter saying “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”
https://web.archive.org/web/20220904002438/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/09/02/us/politics/trump-biden-democracy.html


6ix, every major city you have heard of in Republican controlled Texas is run by Democrats. No riots. Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, El Paso didn't have any riots. Where Texans are falling into poverty and unemployment are the counties controlled by Republicans. Kenosha, Wisconsin is Trump country where Kyle Rittenhouse went on his killing spree during a "riot". If Republicans want to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse stopping "rioters", do it with Trump's blessing. Funny how everything Trump touches ends with rioting, murder and court cases. Rittenhouse listened to Trump's messages, took action and became famous!

Kyle Rittenhouse: Who is US teen cleared of protest killings?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53934109

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 11:09 AM

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You're still not talking about the speech, retard.

This thread is about Joe Biden*'s terrible speech.

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 12:38 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Short enough, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Why should I believe Pence?
Bc he's a Republican?
I'm not a Republican.

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 1:23 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Short enough, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Why should I believe Pence?
Bc he's a Republican?
I'm not a Republican.

It wasn't Pence, so you did NOT even read it correctly. It was Former Pence Adviser who said:

"He (Biden) wasn't criticizing Republican voters, which I've seen a lot of talk about that. What he's saying is that this extreme faction...is dangerous."

"Many of us agree. There are many of us Republican voters who are not the right-wing crazy that is taking over the party that is damaging, I would say, to the party."

Was that too many words for you to correctly understand, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 1:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh fuck off dude.

Do you need to see your list of threats and terrible shit you say all the time again both under this handle and your banned Reaverfan handle again.

YOU are the violent and crazy ones. That Biden* speech was PERFECT for people like you.


Aside from an EXTREMELY SMALL AMOUNT of some truly insane people who claim to be on the right and got a weapon in their hand... An amount you hardly have to use two hands to count, everybody in this country that isn't a Democrat Leftist wack-job are the ones not causing any harm to anyone else.

YOU are the ones looting, robbing, burning shit down when you don't get your way, murdering people, and taking any opportunity you can get whether in real life with a microphone or on social media to incite violence against anyone you don't agree with.

Fucking entitled, murderous crybabies. The entire fucking worthless lot of you.

We won't abide your behavior anymore.

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Well written, 6ix. You did a great job impersonating a lunatic about to have another mental breakdown.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh fuck off dude.

Do you need to see your list of threats and terrible shit you say all the time again both under this handle and your banned Reaverfan handle again.

YOU are the violent and crazy ones. That Biden* speech was PERFECT for people like you.


Aside from an EXTREMELY SMALL AMOUNT of some truly insane people who claim to be on the right and got a weapon in their hand... An amount you hardly have to use two hands to count, everybody in this country that isn't a Democrat Leftist wack-job are the ones not causing any harm to anyone else.

YOU are the ones looting, robbing, burning shit down when you don't get your way, murdering people, and taking any opportunity you can get whether in real life with a microphone or on social media to incite violence against anyone you don't agree with.

Fucking entitled, murderous crybabies. The entire fucking worthless lot of you.

We won't abide your behavior anymore.

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SignyM:
Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

SECOND: GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Short enough, Signym?

SIGNY; Why should I believe Pence?
Bc he's a Republican?
I'm not a Republican.

SECOND: It wasn't Pence, so you did NOT even read it correctly.



Correction, SEVOND- I didn't read it at all. I just scanned it.
But my point still holds.


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Sunday, September 4, 2022 2:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Well written, 6ix. You did a great job impersonating a lunatic about to have another mental breakdown.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Oh fuck off dude.

Do you need to see your list of threats and terrible shit you say all the time again both under this handle and your banned Reaverfan handle again.

YOU are the violent and crazy ones. That Biden* speech was PERFECT for people like you.


Aside from an EXTREMELY SMALL AMOUNT of some truly insane people who claim to be on the right and got a weapon in their hand... An amount you hardly have to use two hands to count, everybody in this country that isn't a Democrat Leftist wack-job are the ones not causing any harm to anyone else.

YOU are the ones looting, robbing, burning shit down when you don't get your way, murdering people, and taking any opportunity you can get whether in real life with a microphone or on social media to incite violence against anyone you don't agree with.

Fucking entitled, murderous crybabies. The entire fucking worthless lot of you.

We won't abide your behavior anymore.

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Oh yeah? How so?

All I did was illustrate your propensity for violence and your insane behavior which is all archived here.


Look around you. The atmosphere is changing everywhere.

Leftist Democrat policies are on the endangered species list.

I'd suggest you learn to adapt to the changes. The pendulum swing the other way is going to be even worse than this one was.

Sleep tight.



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SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SignyM:
Oh, I didn't get too far into it's post. Just enough to know that he was really stretching a point into the realm of incoherence. About 2.5 sentences.

SECOND: GOP Is 'Dangerous,' Former Pence Adviser Defends Biden's Anti-MAGA Speech

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Short enough, Signym?

SIGNY; Why should I believe Pence?
Bc he's a Republican?
I'm not a Republican.

SECOND: It wasn't Pence, so you did NOT even read it correctly.



Correction, SEVOND- I didn't read it at all.
I just scanned it.
But my point still holds.


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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Correction, SEVOND- I didn't read it at all. I just scanned it.
But my point still holds.

"He (Biden) wasn't criticizing Republican voters, which I've seen a lot of talk about that. What he's saying is that this extreme faction...is dangerous."

"Many of us agree. There are many of us Republican voters who are not the right-wing crazy that is taking over the party that is damaging, I would say, to the party."

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Too much to scan, Signym?

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Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Correction, SEVOND- I didn't read it at all. I just scanned it.
But my point still holds.

"He (Biden) wasn't criticizing Republican voters, which I've seen a lot of talk about that. What he's saying is that this extreme faction...is dangerous."

"Many of us agree. There are many of us Republican voters who are not the right-wing crazy that is taking over the party that is damaging, I would say, to the party."

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Too much to scan, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

My point remains: Why would I believe what an Republican has to say, especially an establishment Republican? I'm not a Republican, I'm not in the habit of taking ANYthing a politician says on faith... not Trump either, and not Biden* or Pelosi or AOC or Obama... and so far all they've offered to "prove" what a "threat" the MAGA crowd is is a bunch of lies, smears, hyperbole, and innuendo.

Oh, and a blood-red background, the Presidential seal, and a lot of fist-waving.

When someone tries THAT hard to yank my chain, I know they've got nothing.

Go suck an egg, SECOND, you're a know-nothing troll.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Correction, SEVOND- I didn't read it at all. I just scanned it.
But my point still holds.

"He (Biden) wasn't criticizing Republican voters, which I've seen a lot of talk about that. What he's saying is that this extreme faction...is dangerous."

"Many of us agree. There are many of us Republican voters who are not the right-wing crazy that is taking over the party that is damaging, I would say, to the party."

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-dangerous-former-pence-adviser-defends-bi
dens-anti-maga-speech-1739665


Too much to scan, Signym?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

My point remains: Why would I believe what an Republican has to say, especially an establishment Republican? I'm not a Republican, I'm not in the habit of taking ANYthing a politician says on faith... not Trump either, and not Biden* or Pelosi or AOC or Obama... and so far all they've offered to "prove" what a "threat" the MAGA crowd is is a bunch of lies, smears, hyperbole, and innuendo.

Oh, and a blood-red background, the Presidential seal, and a lot of fist-waving.

When someone tries THAT hard to yank my chain, I know they've got nothing.

Go suck an egg, SECOND, you're a know-nothing troll.

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His whole point, obviously, is this:

"These are people that I don't agree with, so naturally YOU agree with everything they say. Now that we've gotten that settled, see... Even these people that I agreed that you agree with say things that I agree with and you don't agree with."

Anything Second says not only shouldn't be taken seriously, but it's impossible to take seriously unless your brain is just as broken as his is.

I don't give a fuck what Mike Pence has to say about anything. I certainly don't give a fuck about what some little Mike Pence ass sniffer that will probably end up being a congressman someday has to say about anything.

The only reason that Second cares is because the little asswipe is saying what Second wants to hear. Everything is always about Second, because second is still a child that believes the world revolves around Second.

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

My point remains: Why would I believe what an Republican has to say, especially an establishment Republican? I'm not a Republican, I'm not in the habit of taking ANYthing a politician says on faith... not Trump either, and not Biden* or Pelosi or AOC or Obama... and so far all they've offered to "prove" what a "threat" the MAGA crowd is is a bunch of lies, smears, hyperbole, and innuendo.

Would you believe Trump?

They “have become vicious monsters,” Trump says of the @FBI and @TheJusticeDept.
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1566221736575746049

Trump had much more to say yesterday. Do you believe him? His rally did.



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Sunday, September 4, 2022 7:31 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

My point remains: Why would I believe what an Republican has to say, especially an establishment Republican? I'm not a Republican, I'm not in the habit of taking ANYthing a politician says on faith... not Trump either, and not Biden* or Pelosi or AOC or Obama... and so far all they've offered to "prove" what a "threat" the MAGA crowd is is a bunch of lies, smears, hyperbole, and innuendo.

Would you believe Trump?

They “have become vicious monsters,” Trump says of the @FBI and @TheJusticeDept.
https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1566221736575746049

Trump had much more to say yesterday. Do you believe him? His rally did.



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Well, yes, I wouldn't describe them as "vicious monsters" but the agencies are clearly operating outside of the law and need to be decapitated and set straight.

But yanno, I have more important things to do than exchange words with a troll.

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Well, yes, I wouldn't describe them as "vicious monsters" but the agencies are clearly operating outside of the law and need to be decapitated and set straight.

But yanno, I have more important things to do than exchange words with a troll.

I believe Trump is speaking truthfully when he uses other people to say the "only good Democrat is a dead Democrat." This is what Biden was speechifying about.

President Trump retweeted a video of a supporter saying that the "only good Democrat is a dead Democrat." The man in the video is a New Mexico politician who faced calls to resign after making the remark earlier this month.

Mr. Trump at midnight retweeted a video from Cowboys For Trump featuring the group's founder, Couy Griffin, who is also the Otero County commissioner. The clip shows Griffin speaking to a crowd of supporters.

But Griffin also said there were some Democrats in Washington and in statehouses who may have committed "treason," and people guilty of treason face "a firing squad" or "the end of the rope." Griffin has a history of comments saying Democratic lawmakers should be hanged or executed.

"The County Commissioner's comment is despicable, indefensible, and un-American," New Mexico's House Speaker Brian Egolf, a Democrat, said on Twitter. "He represents Rs, Ds, and Independents. He should immediately apologize and resign." (He didn't even apologize. He temporized. )

Speaking about President Trump tweeting his video, Griffin said, "It really means a lot to me, because I know that the president of the United States has my back."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter
-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat
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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I believe Trump is speaking truthfully when he uses other people to say the "only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."



He never said that. He never retweeted that.

Never.

Get fucked, liar.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I believe Trump is speaking truthfully when he uses other people to say the "only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."



He never said that. He never retweeted that.

Never.

Get fucked, liar.

6ix, it happened. --> Trump shares video of supporter saying "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter
-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat
/

Your claiming it did not happen is the lie. Trump kept lying in Pennsylvania. Trump's incendiary rally proved President Biden was right.

At his rally Saturday in Pennsylvania, Trump was not content to serve up more lies about the 2020 election that he lost. He did far worse: He used his platform to demonize the FBI, Justice Department and the federal magistrate who signed the warrant authorizing the August 8 search of his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. These are among the officials seeking the return of classified material and other government documents that Trump took with him when he left the White House.

Trump's heated rhetoric is meant to engage -- and could enrage -- his base. Let's not forget that a Trump supporter incensed over Mar-a-Lago the search waged an armed attack on an FBI office in Ohio and died in a subsequent confrontation with the police. There have also been antisemitic threats directed at the federal magistrate who approved the search warrant.

All that notwithstanding, Trump stirred more anger toward law enforcement, prosecutors and our judiciary in Saturday night's speech -- and even used dehumanizing language to describe them. "The FBI and the Justice Department have become vicious monsters, controlled by radical-left scoundrels, lawyers and the media, who tell them what to do," the ex-President said.

Trump then falsely declared that the search was "one of the most shocking abuses of power by any administration in American history," painting a fallacious picture of what was widely considered a measured and reasonable undertaking.

Trump's effort to rile up his base was also evident in his vilification of the judge who approved the search warrant. Trump declared that the entire search was based on a "phony pretext from a highly political magistrate who they hand-picked late in the evening just days before the break-in." In fact, the judge ended up with the case entirely by chance. And legal experts have said there is nothing to suggest that he handled the case in an untoward way.

And as the speech went on, Trump made the attacks personal, telling his supporters: "They're trying to silence me, and more importantly, they're trying to silence you."

No, the FBI isn't trying to silence Trump's supporters -- it is investigating potential crimes that Trump or others may have committed in connection with the handling of classified and unclassified documents that belong to us -- not him. The former President has insisted he declassified all the documents seized in the FBI's search of Mar-a-Lago.

Trump knows his base better than anyone. He understands that a subset of his MAGA supporters have shown themselves willing to commit violence in his name. Some of those who were arrested over the attack on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, have explained to prosecutors that their actions were an answer to Trump's call, at a speech before they stormed the building, to "fight like hell." That was the sentiment shared by Trump supporter Stephen Ayres, who told the January 6 committee in July that Trump had called him to Washington on January 6. "We basically were just following what he said," Ayres testified.

Trump knows all of this. He nevertheless is following the same playbook as he did after the 2020 election that preceded the January 6 attack, but this time with repeated dangerous attacks upon our law enforcement and judiciary.

Before January 6, one could dismiss Trump's words as heated political rhetoric. But in a post-January 6 America, we ignore Trump's words at our own peril -- and that of our democracy. Biden raised alarm bells in his speech on Thursday about the threat posed by Trump and some members of the MAGA movement. "History tells us that blind loyalty to a single leader and a willingness to engage in political violence is fatal to democracy," the President said.

Biden is right. The only question is whether it will take another January 6-style attack before enough Americans understand the real threat that Trump poses to our democratic republic.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/04/opinions/trump-weekend-rally-biden-obei
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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I believe Trump is speaking truthfully when he uses other people to say the "only good Democrat is a dead Democrat."



He never said that. He never retweeted that.

Never.

Get fucked, liar.

6ix, it happened. --> Trump shares video of supporter saying "the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat" https://www.cbsnews.com/news/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter
-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat
/



Oh. Okay. I see what happened now. Your dumbfuck smoothbrain decided not to read past the headline again. Imagine that, huh?

4th Paragraph: "I don't say that in the physical sense, and I can already see where the videos getting edited where it says I want to go murder Democrats," Griffin continues. "No. I say that in the political sense because the Democrat agenda and policy is anti-American right now."

7th and 8th Paragraphs: CBS News asked Griffin Thursday if he stood by his statement in the video and he replied, "Well, no." He said did not wish "physical harm on any individual person." He also said he'd been receiving death threats in response to the video.

"I've got a lot of friends who are Democrats, and I don't wish ill on them," he said. Later he added, "I don't wish them ill, I don't wish death upon on them, but I sure don't think they do our country any justice."



So first off... you're a retard. Which all of us already know.

And secondly... Where the fuck was your outrage over this 2 years and 3 months ago?

It wasn't here. You dumb shits have talked about Trump every day for 6 years straight and never mentioned this back then.





And also, isn't it interesting that this article is different today than when it was archived in May of 2020?

https://web.archive.org/web/20200528175040/https://www.cbsnews.com/new
s/president-trump-shares-video-of-supporter-saying-the-only-good-democrat-is-a-dead-democrat
/

Funny that. Because I don't see one single fucking word about how they made massive edits to the article since it was first written on May 20th of 2020.



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Here's a video for you to chew on while you think about how stupid you are.



MSNBC is actively trying to get your meth head Antifa/BLM criminals to raid the rural areas and start a Civil War.

Get fucked.

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Oh. Okay. I see what happened now. Your dumbfuck smoothbrain decided not to read past the headline again. Imagine that, huh?

He knew he said "Kill Democrats." Followed by a long pause. "Just kidding. Didn't mean it. You can't blame me for a joke, you get it?" We get it. He was not kidding. Kill Democrats was his message.

Trump's Saturday night rally was one long intricate message: "Kill Democrats" followed by "Ha-ha. Just kidding." Pause. "No, I'm not. Kill Democrats."



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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Oh. Okay. I see what happened now. Your dumbfuck smoothbrain decided not to read past the headline again. Imagine that, huh?

He knew he said "Kill Democrats." Followed by a long pause. "Just kidding. Didn't mean it. You can't blame me for a joke, you get it?" We get it. He was not kidding. Kill Democrats was his message.



No. It wasn't.

Why did they change the article without telling you they changed the original article?


Quote:

Trump's Saturday night rally was one long intricate message: "Kill Democrats" followed by "Ha-ha. Just kidding." Pause. "No, I'm not. Kill Democrats."


No. It wasn't. I saw it.

Meanwhile, you just avoided the video I sent you on MSNBC apparently.


Nobody has to kill the Democratic Party. It's committing suicide.



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Lets reel this conversation back before it turns into the Punch 'n Judy show that SECOND wants to turn it into.

Oh, wait. Too late!


What Biden said was horrific. He demonized HALF of the voting public, 75 million people who voted for Trump, as threatening, violent extremists and insinuated over and over again that they are racist, sexist homophobes. This wasn't a one-off phrase, it was the sum and total of his entire 25-minute fist-waving rant. Biden* provides no examples, no data no evidence to support his accusations. It's 25 minutes of sheer baseless smear. And if he's so much against "political violence", why didn't he equally codemn the Antifa and BLM?

Even if you find an equivalent speech by Trump, then they are both guilty of making terrible speeches. TERRIBLE. But still, speech.

However, the TRUE threat to democracy is what each President has done or countenanced.

Did Trump order a widespread search of Biden's residences, based on a heavily redacted (i.e. still secret) warrant?


Did the Trump CIA, FBI, an FIA court hound Biden* relentlessly for years over his international grift, Biden's* quid pro quo threats to Ukraine's funding (video available), his "collusion" wth the Chinese CPC energy companies and his son's influence peddling?

Did he unlease the FBI and DOJ over accusations of Biden's* sexually molestating girls and his association with Epstein based on a "dossier" cooked up and paid for by his political campaign team? Did the Trump FBI leak damaging investigation "information" to a media that was willing to amplify any bullshit story that came their way on the basis that rumors are "news"?

The reason why SECOND likes to focus on words in this thread, in the "Ukraine" thread, the "insurrection" thread and elsewhere is because he's trying to distract from what actually happened.

As the old saying goes
If the facts are on your side, pound the facts.
If the law is on your side, pound the law.
If neither are on your side, pound the table.


SECOND is pounding the table. I don't intend to pound the table with him.

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Why did Trump choose to showcase a Nazi sympathizer as Jan. 6 prisoner at Pennsylvania rally?

"Cynthia Hughes used her time at this high profile Trump rally to talk about her nephew who, as she says, has been in jail for nearly two years now but holds him up as sort of a poster child for Jan. 6th related injustice. But in reality, the Justice Department has argued that he is a Nazi sympathizer and somebody who the judge, in this case, a Trump appointee was so concerned that his violent neo-Nazi rhetoric would turn from words into violence, that's why the judge decided to keep him in jail while his court process played out," explained Cohen.

He went on to explain that Cusanelli's defense "was that he didn't know Congress met at the Capitol. Clearly, the jury did not buy that. But I think the bigger picture here you got to look at the fact that there is a ton of Jan. 6th defendants that the former president could have chosen from in terms of featuring them to defend or at least try to draw sympathy for people who were at the Capitol on Jan. 6th and this was the case that ultimately took center stage during this rally."

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-january-6-pennsylvania-rally/

Biden was talking about Trump's Nazi sympathizer:

We saw law enforcement brutally attacked on January the 6th. We’ve seen election officials, poll workers — many of them volunteers of both parties — subjected to intimidation and death threats. And — can you believe it? — FBI agents just doing their job as directed, facing threats to their own lives from their own fellow citizens.

On top of that, there are public figures — today, yesterday, and the day before — predicting and all but calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets.

This is inflammatory. It’s dangerous. It’s against the rule of law. And we, the people, must say: This is not who we are.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/speeches-remarks/2022/09/01/r
emarks-by-president-bidenon-the-continued-battle-for-the-soul-of-the-nation
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, September 5, 2022 2:06 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Whatever people picked those red and black colors behind Biden....it was beyond retarded

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Originally posted by second:

"Cynthia Hughes used her time at this high profile Trump rally to talk about her nephew who, as she says, has been in jail for nearly two years now but holds him up as sort of a poster child for Jan. 6th related injustice.





This guy?



I hate to share stupid u tube links but ....I don't think she's on odysee or bitchute

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Monday, September 5, 2022 2:14 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Biden* spent his entire speech referring to the MAGA crowd, not one person.

Stop lying, SECOND.

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