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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 9:23 AM

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https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-poli
tics-bc980316f80f88620b92e5666f96251c


And somewhere out there, there's a few Leftist male crossdressing DOJ and FBI agents that are wearing Melania's dresses. Because, among other things like Trump and his family's personal medical records, some of Melania's clothes are among the things that they took during the raid.

OPPS!


Remember boys... The cameras were all on.



I can't wait to see that footage. Trust... we will see that footage.


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https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-poli
tics-bc980316f80f88620b92e5666f96251c


And somewhere out there, there's a few Leftist male crossdressing DOJ and FBI agents that are wearing Melania's dresses. Because, among other things like Trump and his family's personal medical records, some of Melania's clothes are among the things that they took during the raid.

OPPS!


Remember boys... The cameras were all on.



I can't wait to see that footage. Trust... we will see that footage.


Trump's Special Masturbator will be arguing that nuclear weapon launch codes are Trump's personal property and must be returned to him.

Roy Cohn, Trump's thankfully dead mob lawyer (suicide or AIDS, but Trump will be fine) was known for saying, “Don’t tell me what the law is, tell me who the judge is.” The relevance of that quote lingers for a reason. The judge who approved the Special Masturbator, Judge Cannon, is a far-right jurist and a Trump-appointed Federalist Society member. What’s more, it was after Election Day 2020 — the point at which voters rejected Trump — when Senate Republicans confirmed Cannon to a lifetime position as judge.

Legal experts slam special master ruling as ‘nutty’ and ‘radical’

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-special-mast
er-hearing-doj-rcna45889


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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-government-and-poli
tics-bc980316f80f88620b92e5666f96251c


And somewhere out there, there's a few Leftist male crossdressing DOJ and FBI agents that are wearing Melania's dresses. Because, among other things like Trump and his family's personal medical records, some of Melania's clothes are among the things that they took during the raid.

OPPS!


Remember boys... The cameras were all on.



I can't wait to see that footage. Trust... we will see that footage.


Trump's Special Masturbator will be arguing that nuclear weapon launch codes are Trump's personal property and must be returned to him.



I worked at Toys R Us when I was 16 years old and every 30 days the system made me change my login to the scanning system and wouldn't allow me to use any password that I'd used in the past. That was back in '95.

SPOILER ALERT: If Trump had any nuclear launch codes in a box tucked away under one of Melania's dresses that the Democrat DOJ and FBI perv agents stole, it wasn't going to work.

You are an idiot.



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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:29 AM

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I worked at Toys R Us . . .

Attorney General William Barr, a former Trump ally, was asked for his opinion about the argument for a special master. “I think it’s a crock of s---,” he said, adding, “I don’t think a special master is called for.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/02/us/politics/barr-trump-special-mast
er.html


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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:33 AM

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I worked at Toys R Us . . .

Attorney General William Barr, a former Trump ally, was asked for his opinion about the argument for a special master. “I think it’s a crock of s---,” he said, adding, “I don’t think a special master is called for.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/02/us/politics/barr-trump-special-mast
er.html


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You post this as if you think I care what fat fuck Barr or the New York Times has to say about anything.

And I'm wondering why you quoted "I worked at Toys R Us" before posting that reply.

Seriously... are you retarded Second?

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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:35 AM

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You post this as if you think I care what fat fuck Barr or the New York Times has to say about anything.

The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, knew that Trump was a dirt bag. He had all the locks changed after Trump left.
https://www.jcs.mil/

Audio reveals Trump's top general's dismay over former president's conduct
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/07/22/mark-milley-trump-condu
ct-january-6-hearings-vpx.cnn


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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 10:37 AM

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And I'm wondering why you quoted "I worked at Toys R Us" before posting that reply.

Seriously... are you retarded Second?



Explain.

Let's figure out the reason behind your idiotic and nonsensical quote replies once and for all.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 5:29 PM

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Explain.

6ix, the first job you had was Toys-R-Us. Your last job was at a warehouse lifting with your back. Future employment? Not happening, is it, 6ix? Most frequent written words: “Trump will be fine.” You are not a dynamo, 6ix, and not likely to understand houstonchronicle.com. But you could try or you could fall back on “Trump will be fine.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220906211038/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Why-did-Trump-get-his-way-on-special-17422601.php


Why did Trump get a special master to review FBI raid documents?

The Editorial Board

When FBI agents searched Donald Trump’s residence at Mar-a-Lago in early August, they had ample reason, backed by a valid search warrant, to believe they’d find something. And find something they did: roughly 13,000 items, including classified documents.

The circumstances here are extraordinary: a former president who appears to have illegally removed classified material from the White House and then resisted repeated requests to return them. But now instead of moving forward in reviewing those documents and just how they got to the Florida residence, the investigation has been largely stalled thanks to another extraordinary circumstance: a Trump appointed-federal judge granted his request and ordered the appointment of a special master to review the documents seized from Mar-a-Lago.

University of Texas law professor Stephen I. Vladeck told the New York Times the ruling was “an unprecedented intervention by a federal district judge into the middle of an ongoing federal criminal and national security investigation.”

There’s a lot that’s unusual about the decision and most of it warrants serious pause.

When there are questions of attorney-client privilege or other concerns about what evidence should be shared with whom, a judge can certainly order the services of a special master to help make those determinations. In this case, though, the DOJ already did its own screening with a separate group of FBI agents and prosecutors, according to the Washington Post. That team found roughly 500 potentially privileged items, per the judge’s decision.

What’s more, the special master approved by Judge Aileen M. Cannon wouldn’t just be looking for information subject to attorney-client privilege, but to executive privilege as well. Invoking executive privilege is certainly much rarer. Though Cannon argued that concerns about executive privilege should not be “disregarded,” other legal experts are not so sure that a unilateral declaration from a former president holds up, according to reporting by the New York Times. Experts have also questioned the judge’s decision to apply it in this case, noting that Trump is no longer in office and arguing that the DOJ is itself part of the executive branch .

“The opinion seems oblivious to the nature of executive privilege,” Peter M. Shane, a legal scholar at New York University, told the New York Times.

Then there’s the matter of the material itself that includes — let’s not forget — the most top secret designation possible and that likely involves information related to national security. This means that, as the DOJ has argued, anyone assigned to review the evidence would need top security clearance.

The specialness of the case was not lost on Cannon who used the former president’s unique position to argue that he was at a heightened risk for “stigma” and reputational harm. This is a risk that almost everyone faces if they’re being investigated and we’d imagine it’s especially true for people being investigated for potentially exposing national security secrets. That’s pretty serious after all.

Cannon agreed with the government that Trump does not seem to have suffered any violation of his constitutional rights and still this decision seems to grant the perpetually aggrieved former president privilege after privilege.

Part of Cannon’s argument in favor of a special master is the “appearance of fairness.” That is important and it’s a concern the DOJ seems to have weighed in its careful execution of the investigation so far. But it’s a peculiar concern coming from Cannon who, before even hearing arguments, indicated she was likely to find in Trump’s favor.

Now that she has, investigators are not able to examine or use any of the seized items. They’ll still be able to conduct interviews relevant to the investigation. And a separate review of the material by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence can continue. The ruling will likely be appealed but promises to slow the investigation regardless.

This decision represents the “radical path,” as New York University law professor Ryan Goodman told the Times. And it’s a troubling reminder that the courts are not free from political influence. Trump was a prolific appointer in his four years, appointing “more than 200 judges to the federal bench,” according to Pew Research Center, effectively reshaping the federal judiciary, “particularly the appeals courts — for decades to come.” The appeals court that would hear the case if it’s appealed has six Trump appointees out of the total 11 active judges.

The delay is unfortunate but the bigger concern here is the fair application of the law. As loud and whiny as Trump has been about his so-called persecution, the investigation is a serious one and has not infringed on his rights.

Trump seems to think rules don’t apply to him but if there’s any place they should, it’s in a court of law.

https://web.archive.org/web/20220906211038/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/opinion/editorials/article/Editorial-Why-did-Trump-get-his-way-on-special-17422601.php


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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 6:41 PM

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Explain.

6ix, the first job you had was Toys-R-Us. Your last job was at a warehouse lifting with your back. Future employment? Not happening, is it, 6ix? Most frequent written words: “Trump will be fine.” You are not a dynamo, 6ix, and not likely to understand houstonchronicle.com. But you could try or you could fall back on “Trump will be fine.”



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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 7:16 PM

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I don't see what the problem is. I don't care if a Special Master is or isn't required. It won't hurt anything and might add objectivity that clearly doesn't rest with the DOJ or FBI.

BTW, it's not "Trump's" Special Master. The appointee has to be agreed to buy both sides.

Quote:

Trump's lawyers and Justice Department attorneys have until Sept. 9 to "meaningfully confer" and submit to the court a joint filing that includes a list of proposed candidates to serve as special master along with a proposed description of the mechanics of the review.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-special-master-fbi-search-judge-jus
tice-department-mar-a-lago
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SECOND'S mind is on the blink, again (as usual) if it thinks that's a Trump appointee.


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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:46 PM

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I don't see what the problem is. I don't care if a Special Master is or isn't required. It won't hurt anything and might add objectivity that clearly doesn't rest with the DOJ or FBI.

BTW, it's not "Trump's" Special Master. The appointee has to be agreed to buy both sides.

Quote:

Trump's lawyers and Justice Department attorneys have until Sept. 9 to "meaningfully confer" and submit to the court a joint filing that includes a list of proposed candidates to serve as special master along with a proposed description of the mechanics of the review.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-special-master-fbi-search-judge-jus
tice-department-mar-a-lago
/

SECOND'S mind is on the blink, again (as usual) if it thinks that's a Trump appointee.

Trump has the Judge living in his pocket. The Judge owes Trump a favor because the Judge got appointed after the 2020 election. Without Trump's help, that Judge wouldn't have the highest-paid job she will ever have. The Judge, by taking a few months before appointing the slowest Special Master, one who won't finish sorting the Top Secret documents for years, the Judge has delayed Trump's indictment for years.

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Tuesday, September 6, 2022 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't see what the problem is. I don't care if a Special Master is or isn't required. It won't hurt anything and might add objectivity that clearly doesn't rest with the DOJ or FBI.

BTW, it's not "Trump's" Special Master. The appointee has to be agreed to buy both sides.

Quote:

Trump's lawyers and Justice Department attorneys have until Sept. 9 to "meaningfully confer" and submit to the court a joint filing that includes a list of proposed candidates to serve as special master along with a proposed description of the mechanics of the review.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-special-master-fbi-search-judge-jus
tice-department-mar-a-lago
/

SECOND'S mind is on the blink, again (as usual) if it thinks that's a Trump appointee.

Trump has the Judge living in his pocket. The Judge owes Trump a favor because the Judge got appointed after the 2020 election. Without Trump's help, that Judge wouldn't have the highest-paid job she will ever have. The Judge, by taking a few months before appointing the slowest Special Master, one who won't finish sorting the Top Secret documents for years, the Judge has delayed Trump's indictment for years.

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Nah.

This was a political hit job just like all of the other political hit jobs against Trump for the last 6 years.

If anything, this saved Democrats from the embarrassment of having to explain yet again why they can't do anything to Trump because Trump didn't actually do anything wrong.

They're all breathing a sigh of relief now. They know that they don't even have to tell idiots like you what you just said because they know you're stupid and you already think that.




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Wednesday, September 7, 2022 2:24 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I don't see what the problem is. I don't care if a Special Master is or isn't required. It won't hurt anything and might add objectivity that clearly doesn't rest with the DOJ or FBI.

BTW, it's not "Trump's" Special Master. The appointee has to be agreed to buy both sides.

Quote:

Trump's lawyers and Justice Department attorneys have until Sept. 9 to "meaningfully confer" and submit to the court a joint filing that includes a list of proposed candidates to serve as special master along with a proposed description of the mechanics of the review.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-special-master-fbi-search-judge-jus
tice-department-mar-a-lago
/

SECOND'S mind is on the blink, again (as usual) if it thinks that's a Trump appointee.

Trump has the Judge living in his pocket. The Judge owes Trump a favor because the Judge got appointed after the 2020 election. Without Trump's help, that Judge wouldn't have the highest-paid job she will ever have. The Judge, by taking a few months before appointing the slowest Special Master, one who won't finish sorting the Top Secret documents for years, the Judge has delayed Trump's indictment for years.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

You seem to have missed the point- AGAIN- SECOND.

The list of possible Special Masters has to be acceptable to BOTH sides. It's a little like jury selection or arbitration.

Are you not familiar with USA's system of justice?

If candidates on the list have a reputation for being slow (or obviously biased towards Trump) they would be unacceptable to the DOJ. And the judge can only appoint from the list.

I know you're really reaching for a point - and failing - when you veer off into complete nonsense. Again.

You're dug yourself into a hole. Just stop digging.

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Wednesday, September 7, 2022 6:40 AM

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You seem to have missed the point- AGAIN- SECOND.

The list of possible Special Masters has to be acceptable to BOTH sides. It's a little like jury selection or arbitration.

Are you not familiar with USA's system of justice?

If candidates on the list have a reputation for being slow (or obviously biased towards Trump) they would be unacceptable to the DOJ. And the judge can only appoint from the list.

I know you're really reaching for a point - and failing - when you veer off into complete nonsense. Again.

You're dug yourself into a hole. Just stop digging.

Stop your nonsense, Signym. "And the judge can only appoint from the list. - Signym" You are wrong. Trump's Judge said that she will appoint the Special Master if the FBI and Trump can't come to an agreement about who will be Master.

Trump's judge inserted an extra step, the Special Master, before the evidence goes to the Grand Jury. It is a delaying tactic. The special master task is sometimes given to a retired judge. The goal is to ensure that prosecutors do not improperly view privileged records such as private emails between lawyers and their clients. That's what a special master does, and the task can be finished in minutes, but if Trump's Judge Cannon is corrupt it will be dragged out for weeks, months, years. Read all about it at

https://www.voanews.com/a/in-trump-documents-case-what-is-a-special-ma
ster-/6734386.html


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Wednesday, September 7, 2022 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You seem to have missed the point- AGAIN- SECOND.

The list of possible Special Masters has to be acceptable to BOTH sides. It's a little like jury selection or arbitration.

Are you not familiar with USA's system of justice?

If candidates on the list have a reputation for being slow (or obviously biased towards Trump) they would be unacceptable to the DOJ. And the judge can only appoint from the list.

I know you're really reaching for a point - and failing - when you veer off into complete nonsense. Again.

You're dug yourself into a hole. Just stop digging.

Stop your nonsense, Signym. "And the judge can only appoint from the list. - Signym" You are wrong. Trump's Judge said that she will appoint the Special Master if the FBI and Trump can't come to an agreement about who will be Master.

Trump's judge inserted an extra step, the Special Master, before the evidence goes to the Grand Jury. It is a delaying tactic. The special master task is sometimes given to a retired judge. The goal is to ensure that prosecutors do not improperly view privileged records such as private emails between lawyers and their clients. That's what a special master does, and the task can be finished in minutes, but if Trump's Judge Cannon is corrupt it will be dragged out for weeks, months, years. Read all about it at

https://www.voanews.com/a/in-trump-documents-case-what-is-a-special-ma
ster-/6734386.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Read about it at "voanews".

This is a new one. What kind of kid-fucker Leftist outfit you reading these days?

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Read about it at "voanews".

This is a new one. What kind of kid-fucker Leftist outfit you reading these days?

voanews is Voice of America News. It has been around since before your grandparents were born.

One of the most dispiriting aspects of the decision yesterday by Federal District Court Judge Aileen Cannon—which granted former President Donald Trump’s request to appoint a special master to review the evidence seized from Mar-a-Lago by the FBI—is that it undermines the work of all the other judges who have tried to adhere to their oath to “administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and … faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent” on the office. Her ruling is untethered to the law and presents a skewed recitation of the facts. Her actions make the question “Who appointed the judge?” (Trump) a sadly relevant one in evaluating a judicial opinion.

There is an Oaths of justices and judges. Judge Cannon broke it to do a favor for Trump after Trump lost the election. Since it requires 67 Senators to remove Cannon, she won't be punished for breaking her oath.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/453
https://ballotpedia.org/Aileen_Cannon

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Wednesday, September 7, 2022 2:40 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


A Special Master is appointed to review documents (medical records, priest diaries, protected legal advice etc) whenever sensitive but irrelevant records are swept up with relevant records. (I learned that watching The Closer and other detective shows).

Since the FBI grabbed everything... tax records, personal letters, legal correspondence, Melania's underwear ... I think a Special Master is justified.

And no, I don't trust the DOJ or the FBI to fairly review and return items and documents. They have SO CLEARLY been biased ... covering up real, actual evidence of Hunter and Joe Biden's crimes, covering up for Hillary, covering up for the FBIs malicious persecution of Trump over a fictitious "dossier" and other fake allegations... they're only getting what they richly deserve.

So I think the FBI/DIJ just better suck it up and find mutually agreeable Special Master candidates.


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A Special Master is appointed to review documents (medical records, priest diaries, protected legal advice etc) whenever sensitive but irrelevant records are swept up with relevant records. (I learned that watching The Closer and other detective shows).

Since the FBI grabbed everything... tax records, personal letters, legal correspondence, Melania's underwear ... I think a Special Master is justified.

And no, I don't trust the DOJ or the FBI to fairly review and return items and documents. They have SO CLEARLY been biased ... covering up real, actual evidence of Hunter and Joe Biden's crimes, covering up for Hillary, covering up for the FBIs malicious persecution of Trump over a fictitious "dossier" and other fake allegations... they're only getting what they richly deserve.

So I think the FBI/DIJ just better suck it up and find mutually agreeable Special Master candidates.

Spies are not as picky as you are, Signym, about proper legal procedures and protecting Trump's constitutional right to privacy and executive privilege.

Mar-a-Lago a magnet for spies, officials warn after nuclear file reportedly found

Mar-a-Lago – the Palm Beach resort and residence where Donald Trump reportedly stored nuclear secrets among a trove of highly classified documents for 18 months since leaving the White House – is a magnet for foreign spies, former intelligence officials have warned.

The Washington Post reported that a document describing an unspecified foreign government’s defences, including its nuclear capabilities, was one of the many highly secret papers Trump took away from the White House when he left office in January 2021.

There were also documents marked SAP, for Special-Access Programmes, which are often about US intelligence operations and whose circulation is severely restricted, even among administration officials with top security clearance.

Potentially most disturbing of all, there were papers stamped HCS, Humint Control Systems, involving human intelligence gathered from agents in enemy countries, whose lives would be in danger if their identities were compromised.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence is conducting a damage assessment review which is focused on the sensitivity of the documents, but US officials said it is the job of FBI counter-intelligence to assess who may have gained access to them.

That is a wide field. The home of a former president with a history of being enthralled by foreign autocrats, distrustful of US security services, and boastful about his knowledge of secrets, is an obvious foreign intelligence target.

“I know that national security professionals inside government, my former colleagues, [they] are shaking their heads at what damage might have been done,” John Brennan, former CIA director, told MSNBC.

“I’m sure Mar-a-Lago was being targeted by Russian intelligence and other intelligence services over the course of the last 18 or 20 months, and if they were able to get individuals into that facility, and access those rooms where those documents were and made copies of those documents, that’s what they would do.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/07/mar-a-lago-trump-nucle
ar-documents-spies


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Thursday, September 8, 2022 2:47 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
A Special Master is appointed to review documents (medical records, priest diaries, protected legal advice etc) whenever sensitive but irrelevant records are swept up with relevant records. (I learned that watching The Closer and other detective shows).

Since the FBI grabbed everything... tax records, personal letters, legal correspondence, Melania's underwear ... I think a Special Master is justified.

And no, I don't trust the DOJ or the FBI to fairly review and return items and documents. They have SO CLEARLY been biased ... covering up real, actual evidence of Hunter and Joe Biden's crimes, covering up for Hillary, covering up for the FBIs malicious persecution of Trump over a fictitious "dossier" and other fake allegations... they're only getting what they richly deserve.

So I think the FBI/DIJ just better suck it up and find mutually agreeable Special Master candidates.

Spies are not as picky as you are, Signym, about proper legal procedures and protecting Trump's constitutional right to privacy and executive privilege.

Mar-a-Lago a magnet for spies, officials warn after nuclear file reportedly found

Mar-a-Lago – the Palm Beach resort and residence where Donald Trump reportedly stored nuclear secrets ...


"reportedy"?

WHO reported it?

If it was the FBI or the DOJ, they aren't supposed to be reporting ANYthing of their investigation. Which is an example of their continuing malicious behavior.

And if this is just a "leak" of bullshit lies from the FBI, then it's evidence of their even more malicious behavior.

And if it wasn't from the FBI or DOJ, then it's just made-up media bullshit.

Fuck off, SECOND. You will defend any lie if it suits your purpose ... whatever the fuck it is. If it isn't just trolling, then I don't know if even YOU know anymore.

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Thursday, September 8, 2022 7:00 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"reportedy"?

WHO reported it?

If it was the FBI or the DOJ, they aren't supposed to be reporting ANYthing of their investigation. Which is an example of their continuing malicious behavior.

And if this is just a "leak" of bullshit lies from the FBI, then it's evidence of their even more malicious behavior.

And if it wasn't from the FBI or DOJ, then it's just made-up media bullshit.

Fuck off, SECOND. You will defend any lie if it suits your purpose ... whatever the fuck it is. If it isn't just trolling, then I don't know if even YOU know anymore.

Signym, you need proof that spies entered Mar-a-Lago and photographed the Top Secret documents that Trump was forbidden by law to have in his bedroom. Luckily for Trump, the spies will not testify against Trump because they refuse to be subpoenaed. Trump will be fine. Trump's lawyers can claim that without testimony from the spies there is no proof Trump broke any laws. Trump's bedroom is more secure than a Top Secret vault inside the Pentagon, Trump's lawyers will claim.

But the spies need not worry about being subpoenaed anytime soon for that trial. With a Special Master moving very slowly, the actual indictment of Trump will be delayed for years. I'm still waiting for the IRS auditor to finish the audit of Trump's tax returns so that Trump can make his returns available to the public. Trump's lawyers told him that he must wait and wait for the audit to conclude. That audit has been going on for at least 6 years. The Special Master will probably be a little faster than that IRS auditor.

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Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:15 AM

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Second hates due process.

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Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:23 AM

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Second hates due process.

Due process means NEVER leaving Top Secrets out where spies at Mar-a-Lago can photograph them. Due process for Signym means that the spies did not photograph the Top Secrets unless the spies testify in court that they were working for Russia. Trump will be fine, 6ix. He has Judge Aileen Cannon living in his pocket.

Ironically, Trump in 2018 made it a felony to mishandle classified documents in the manner he mishandled documents in 2022.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-made-it-a-felony-to-mishandle-cla
ssified-documents-in-2018_n_62f3c2e9e4b0133dd5b4f229


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Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:29 PM

SIGNYM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"reportedy"?

WHO reported it?

If it was the FBI or the DOJ, they aren't supposed to be reporting ANYthing of their investigation. Which is an example of their continuing malicious behavior.

And if this is just a "leak" of bullshit lies from the FBI, then it's evidence of their even more malicious behavior.

And if it wasn't from the FBI or DOJ, then it's just made-up media bullshit.

Fuck off, SECOND. You will defend any lie if it suits your purpose ... whatever the fuck it is. If it isn't just trolling, then I don't know if even YOU know anymore.

Signym, you need proof that spies entered Mar-a-Lago and photographed the Top Secret documents

No, you witless troll. I need evidence -besides a sheer malicious allegation- that Trump actually had relevant "nuclear secrets" at Mar a Lago.

I don't intend to spend much time exchanging words with a witless troll.




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Thursday, September 8, 2022 2:55 PM

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No, you witless troll. I need evidence -besides a sheer malicious allegation- that Trump actually had relevant "nuclear secrets" at Mar a Lago.

I don't intend to spend much time exchanging words with a witless troll.

Since you are not on the Grand Jury, which won't even see the evidence until long after Trump's handpicked Judge Cannon finishes delaying justice for as long as possible as a favor for Trump, it matters not at all what you do or think, but you did give away the Signym approach to problems. I bet problems quickly enter your life, Signym, and leave very slowly or sometimes not at all because of how you think and act.

I've got years of experience watching Trumptards get entangled in very easy problems that are impossibly hard for them to solve. That's why they are emotionally invested in right-wing politics, hoping that a change of government can fix what is wrong with them. That ain't gonna work, Trumptards, even if Trump comes back into power. Your life will still be a mess because you are what you are.

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Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

No, you witless troll. I need evidence -besides a sheer malicious allegation- that Trump actually had relevant "nuclear secrets" at Mar a Lago.

I don't intend to spend much time exchanging words with a witless troll.

Since you are not on the Grand Jury, which won't even see the evidence until long after Trump's handpicked Judge Cannon finishes delaying justice for as long as possible as a favor for Trump, it matters not at all what you do or think, but you did give away the Signym approach to problems. I bet problems quickly enter your life, Signym, and leave very slowly or sometimes not at all because of how you think and act bah blah blah...

In other words, you've got nothing.




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Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:11 PM

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In other words, you've got nothing.

Why are you acting stupid about national security?

Thursday Sept. 8, at 5 p.m.: On Thursday, the Department of Justice filed a motion for Judge Aileen Cannon to stay the portion of her ruling blocking DOJ from using classified documents seized last month from Donald Trump’s residence in Mar-a-Lago for the purposes of a criminal investigation, arguing that it jeopardized the intelligence assessment that Cannon had ruled could proceed.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/09/judge-cannon-mar-a-lago-na
tional-security-threat.html


The motion filed: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.u
scourts.flsd.618763.69.0_3.pdf


Signym: Why are you acting stupid about national security? I ask that same question (except not about national security, but about what just happened at work) very frequently to the Trumptards when they act like they have no sense. But when the next non-routine problem comes along, the Trumptards will screw it up because they are stupid. Some people never change because they can't.

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Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:04 PM

SIGNYM

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What just happened at work? Believe it or not, I don't really read your posts.

BTW don't expect an answer.



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Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The only person here who would read Seconds posts is Ted, but poor Ted can't read.



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Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
What just happened at work? Believe it or not, I don't really read your posts.

BTW don't expect an answer.

The Trumptards broke a Caterpillar D9. You've got to be really stupid to do what they did, try to move the D9 on a too-small trailer, which tipped over, breaking the dozer and the trailer. Nice work, moron Trumptards! It requires complex thinking: place the smaller dozer on the smaller trailer and the bigger dozer on the bigger trailer, but that would require them to think ahead. The bigger trailer arrived first at the site, so they loaded the easiest thing first. That left the small trailer, when it arrived later, to move the big dozer. That is a lot of explanation that does me no good since it shows I trusted people who can't be trusted to show good sense, but it does lead into the motion filed by the FBI with Trump's Judge Cannon, who also cannot be trusted to show good sense.

You have to read the motion, but here is a little bit:

This motion is limited to the Order’s directives with respect to the seized classified records because those aspects of the Order will cause the most immediate and serious harms to the government and the public. The classified records—a discrete set of just over 100 documents—have already been segregated from the other seized records and are being maintained separately.

Read the rest here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.618763/gov.u
scourts.flsd.618763.69.0_3.pdf


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Friday, September 9, 2022 8:02 AM

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The DOJ motion reiterates over and over: that there is nothing for a Special Master to do with the documents containing classification markings. They are government property. They don’t belong to Trump. This gives Judge Cannon an opening to back down from the most problematic parts of her ruling, avoid appeal, and keep the investigation moving.

BTW, Trump cannot declassify the classified documents, he cannot make his problem go away by falsely declaring he already declassified the documents while he was President and neither Trump nor his Special Master can declare the classified documents are his property.

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Friday, September 9, 2022 9:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

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The DOJ motion reiterates over and over: that there is nothing for a Special Master to do with the documents containing classification markings. They are government property. They don’t belong to Trump. This gives Judge Cannon an opening to back down from the most problematic parts of her ruling, avoid appeal, and keep the investigation moving.

BTW, Trump cannot declassify the classified documents, he cannot make his problem go away by falsely declaring he already declassified the documents while he was President and neither Trump nor his Special Master can declare the classified documents are his property.

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You are conflating two different issues.

Issue 1: Trump declassified documents when he was President.

Issue 2: The FBI/DOJ took a whole bunch of shit out of Mar-a-lago that they shouldn't have, personal health care info and items from Melania's wardrobe included.


If you haven't figured out that this was a trap yet, you're an idiot.

Trump already has the documents he cares about scanned and copied in triplicate. The rest of the mountain he left in there for them to take is full of red herrings and stuff that they have no business confiscating. And he's got it all on camera.


There's just about 2 months left before the election. When do you think Trump is going to start dropping truth bombs with receipts and videos all over the place?

It's not now.

My guess is they start making their way out into the world on October 17th.



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Friday, September 9, 2022 10:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You are conflating two different issues.

Issue 1: Trump declassified documents when he was President.

Issue 2: The FBI/DOJ took a whole bunch of shit out of Mar-a-lago that they shouldn't have, personal health care info and items from Melania's wardrobe included.


If you haven't figured out that this was a trap yet, you're an idiot.

Trump already has the documents he cares about scanned and copied in triplicate. The rest of the mountain he left in there for them to take is full of red herrings and stuff that they have no business confiscating. And he's got it all on camera.


There's just about 2 months left before the election. When do you think Trump is going to start dropping truth bombs with receipts and videos all over the place?

It's not now.

My guess is they start making their way out into the world on October 17th.

Show me where you got all this information from. You can't use anyone as your source who can lie with impunity, therefore your source has to be a lawyer, either for Trump or the DOJ, who swore an oath not to lie. Trump is NOT a reliable source because he lies with NO consequences.

Here is an example of what is true: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/02/trump-fbi-raid-documents-about-mar-a-l
ago-search-unsealed.html


There are many more truths to be found at https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+documents+removed+from+mar-a-l
ago


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Friday, September 9, 2022 12:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

You are conflating two different issues.

Issue 1: Trump declassified documents when he was President.

Issue 2: The FBI/DOJ took a whole bunch of shit out of Mar-a-lago that they shouldn't have, personal health care info and items from Melania's wardrobe included.


If you haven't figured out that this was a trap yet, you're an idiot.

Trump already has the documents he cares about scanned and copied in triplicate. The rest of the mountain he left in there for them to take is full of red herrings and stuff that they have no business confiscating. And he's got it all on camera.


There's just about 2 months left before the election. When do you think Trump is going to start dropping truth bombs with receipts and videos all over the place?

It's not now.

My guess is they start making their way out into the world on October 17th.

Show me where you got all this information from. You can't use anyone as your source who can lie with impunity, therefore your source has to be a lawyer, either for Trump or the DOJ, who swore an oath not to lie. Trump is NOT a reliable source because he lies with NO consequences.

Here is an example of what is true: https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/02/trump-fbi-raid-documents-about-mar-a-l
ago-search-unsealed.html


There are many more truths to be found at https://www.google.com/search?q=list+of+documents+removed+from+mar-a-l
ago


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Patience, my boy.

I'll let Trump show you.





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Saturday, September 10, 2022 10:30 AM

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A few months ago Donald Trump sued Hillary Clinton in federal court for— Well, for being mean to him, I guess. This is decidedly not a federal crime, but Trump hoped to get a favorable hearing anyway by filing his suit in a Florida district where the only judge was Aileen Cannon, the Trump appointee who recently ruled for him in his plea for a special master in the Mar-a-Lago case. But through a quirk of scheduling the case ended up instead with a non-Trump judge who was decidedly not amused by Trump's filing. Here are a few of the best lines from Judge Donald Middlebrooks' dismissal of the entire case:
Quote:

What the Amended Complaint lacks in substance and legal support it seeks to substitute with length, hyperbole, and the settling of scores and grievances.

To say that Plaintiff’s 193-page, 819-paragraph Amended Complaint is excessive in length would be putting things mildly.

Knowledge that Florida is a state in the United States does not equate to knowledge that Defendants’ actions will have consequences in Florida.

It is not simply that I find the Amended Complaint “inadequate in any respect”; it is inadequate in nearly every respect.

At its core, the problem with Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm; instead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him.

I wonder: Is Aileen Cannon at all embarrassed by the fact that Trump apparently expects her to rule in his favor like an old time machine pol no matter how stupid his case is? Because this was a pretty stupid case indeed.

https://jabberwocking.com/here-are-the-five-best-lines-from-todays-dis
missal-of-donald-trumps-latest-idiocy
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