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The Collapse of the European Union

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Monday, September 26, 2022 5:46 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Italy had elections it looks look some form of conservative or right will win.

and that Flag...no start for Britain? One star is already missing from the flag.

Why would it collapse, well the British are already out. It was a difficult expensive divorce but Brexit already happened. Italy has however long ago joined the single Currency while British always kept the Pound, Lira was the official unit of currency in Italy until 1999, when it was digitally and physically replaced by the Euro in 2001 used in store and trade in 2002. Then came a change of mind for some 2005, the Lega Nord launched a campaign to reintroduce the lira as a parallel currency.in 2014, Beppe Grillo, leader of the Five Star Movement, also raised the same point.

European nations do have their freedoms they have elections and elected people go to the European parliament however there are non Democratic non Republic non Union corruptions behind the scenes, the 'European Commission' are un-elected elites, is one of the most undemocratic institutions.

The EU tries to punish people it does not like for political reason, for example Hungary or Poland taking millions upon million of refugees but not wanting any invader jihadist koranimal culture, the radical pro-islamic ideologues of Europe try punish them.

Ursula von der Leyen slammed over Italian election 'threats' as EU face showdown with Rome
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1674585/EU-news-Ursula-von-Der-Le
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Some previous Brexit prediction thread

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Originally posted by kpo:
A sad day. Young voters voted overwhelmingly to remain, but have had their future decided for them by older voters



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

British deep state is staunchly anti-Russian even more so than the USA, if that can be believed. Also, Britain has its own currency and follows it's own financialist path. I think for these reasons, Macron sees British banks as a major stumbling block to his desire for a stronger Euro currency. Also, constantly adding economically strapped states to the EU doesn't help. So I believe it all revolves around the position of the Euro in international finance, and that you can explain/predict what Macron will do on whether it will help or hurt the Euro.



Some said the French and Germans had too much central power

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Originally posted by 1kiki:


Well, the Germans have a very comfortable role in the EU. The Greeks, Italians and Spanish - not so much.



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Originally posted by second:

There is only one way to change the EU – vote to leave the EU then negotiate a better deal with it.



The Nationalist or Conservative wave began with Libya Syria and the migrant crisis

Merkel wanted to give everyone asylum

There is currently another refugee crisis with a Russian invasion of Ukraine but they people leaving going West into Europe are European Christian and not jihadi, women and children seem to leave Ukraine first theer are no waves of military age jihad men going 'please give need halal islamist jihad food'

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
The question was - why was US involvement in Libya attributed to Hillary instead of Barack. Did you not understand the question?




of course there were biased clown political comments

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Yes, right wingers are certainly far more terroristic than the peace-loving people of the left.



Was this Six during his drinking days or another troll?

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
And one wonders why there is such a push-back to the collective "White Guilt" that has been plaguing people in this country since Obama took office?



Discussion seemed ok back then Hillary Lost but during the Trump years people started shout and make threats to each other




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Monday, September 26, 2022 5:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Monday, September 26, 2022 6:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Wonderful news.

We're kicking them out all over the world.

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Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 10:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


One of Meloni's speeches

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"Please answer me these questions. This is about what we are doing here today. Why is the family an enemy? Why is the family so frightening? There is a single answer to all these questions. Because it defines us. Because it is our identity. Because everything that defines us is now an enemy for those who would like us to no longer have an identity and to be perfect consumer slaves."

"And so they attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identify, they attack family identity. I can't define myself as Italian, Christian, woman, mother. No."

"I must be citizen x, gender x, parent 1, parent 2. I must be a number. Because when I am only a number, when I no longer have an identity or roots, then I will be the perfect slave at the mercy of financial speculators. The perfect consumer."

"That's the reason why. That's why we inspire so much fear. That's why this event inspires so much fear. Because we do not want to be numbers. Will will defend the value of the human being. Every single human being. Because each of us has a unique genetic code that is unrepeatable. And like it or not, that is sacred. We will defend it. We will defend God, country and family."

"Those things that disgust people so much. We will do it to defend our freedom, because we will never be slaves and simple consumers at the mercy of the financial speculators. That is our mission. That is why I came here today."

"Chesterton wrote, more than a century ago... 'Fires will be kindled to testify that two and two make four.' Swords will be drawn to prove that leaves are green in summer.'"

"That time has arrived. We are ready."



This is a "far right wing" politician?

Still, I don't expect her to be able to change much, realistically.



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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


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Saturday, October 1, 2022 4:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Yurp coming around to sensibility. One World Government might not be the answer.

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Monday, January 13, 2025 8:35 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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