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Biden better pull himself together pretty damn quick. I suggest he order Seal Team 6 to decapitate Trump and mount the skull on top of the flagpole at the White House. That will show the Trumptards that Biden has got his shit together. Yesterday the Supreme Court gave the President immunity from prosecution, so now is the perfect time:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

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Biden better pull himself together pretty damn quick. I suggest he order Seal Team 6 to decapitate Trump and mount the skull on top of the flagpole at the White House. That will show the Trumptards that Biden has got his shit together. Yesterday the Supreme Court gave the President immunity from prosecution, so now is the perfect time:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf

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This is finally the comedic minds behind the Second handle coming out these years as the parody channel they were, or Second should probably seek some professional help.


You are joking right now, aren't you buddy?



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Trump will be fine.
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I Knew Ron Klain. How Could He Let Biden's Debate Calamity Happen? (Why Didn't Biden Cancel?)

Published Jul 03, 2024 at 4:30 AM EDT

https://www.newsweek.com/i-knew-ron-klain-how-could-he-let-bidens-deba
te-calamity-happen-1920249

Like many people around the world, I was stunned by what I saw on the night of Thursday, June 27, when President Joe Biden went up against Donald Trump.

I'm not sure one could call it a "debate", as others have referred to it as a debacle, disaster, or national embarrassment (and that's without using any of the expletives).

It's also difficult to consider it "presidential" after what we witnessed between the two candidates.

What stuns me more than anything else is how others let this happen.

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These days I often ask myself: What happened to the Ron Klain I once knew? He had all the answers back then, so where are his answers now? How could he have let such a calamity happen on live television in front of a global audience of tens of millions?

With all that's at stake both at home and around the world, we have a right to know.

We want to know the answers — the world wants to know them — and we need them now.

Please give us the right answer, Mr. Klain.

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Look at this debate one more time. Both these guys were drugged and out of their minds. (Trump on speed; Biden on alcohol) Why didn't CNN cancel this thing if neither could debate and the two Presidents' advisors wouldn't tell them to sober up?

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Meanwhile, in real news ...

It seems DNC lawyers have found a way to keep all of those donations under the BIDEN- HARRIS account, and that is if they run Harris as President.

It's true that she's wildly unpopular, but since Biden self-immolated on TV, he went beyond the help of every vote- and vote- count rigging scheme possible.

Harris, tho unpopular, has enough credibility so they can imagine pushing her over the line.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Meanwhile, in real news ...

It seems DNC lawyers have found a way to keep all of those donations under the BIDEN- HARRIS account, and that is if they run Harris as President.

It's true that she's wildly unpopular, but since Biden self-immolated on TV, he went beyond the help of every vote- and vote- count rigging scheme possible.

Harris, tho unpopular, has enough credibility so they can imagine pushing her over the line.

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This is all according to the NYT, widely thought of as representing the CIA.

One conjecture (on my part): If Kamala gets squeezed into office, she's supposed to pardon Biden family members.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.

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The shift following the debate is also more pronounced than the effect of Trump’s conviction on the race. The week before Trump’s May 30 conviction, he led by around .8-1 point in the RCP Average. A week after the conviction, on June 6, Trump’s lead fell to 0.5 points but rebounded to around a one-point lead by mid-June, indicating minimal impact from the conviction. In contrast, if current polling trends continue, Trump will have added at least 1.5 to two points to his lead following the debate.

Trump’s post-debate lead is also evident in state polls. A Saint Anselm College poll in New Hampshire, conducted from June 28-29 with 1,700 registered voters, found Trump with a two-point lead in the state, 44% to 42%. A previous University of New Hampshire poll, conducted from May 16-20 with 1,140 likely voters, had Biden up by four points, 52% to 48%. In 2020, Biden won the state by 7.2 points.

Cygnal conducted a poll in Pennsylvania from June 27-28, the day of and the day after the debate, among 800 likely voters, finding Trump with a four-point lead in both the head-to-head and five-way races. This is about one point better than the pre-debate Pennsylvania RCP Average, which had Trump up by 2.8 points, and five points better than his 2020 loss to Biden in the state by 1.2 points.

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Look, I think the big lie of 2024 is the idea that what happened on Thursday night to Joe Biden is an anomaly or an aberration. There is now credible reporting from Alex Thompson at Axios* that there's been a 3 1/2-year coverup to try to keep Joe Biden away from other people so folks wouldn't see just how bad it is.

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"I've honestly stopped worrying about the campaign and I have one question. Who is running the White House today? Who is making decisions today?" he wondered. "I'm not really worried about the presidency in January. I'm worried about it right now."

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Mr. Biden may continue to resist, as he did on Friday night with Mr. Stephanopoulos. But the longer he does, the more brutal the establishment campaign will become. The President’s every word will be scrutinized for mistakes, his every step examined for signs of Parkinson’s or some other malady. The questions will be who knew what about his decline, and when?

CNN’s chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta, now wants Mr. Biden to take a cognitive test. Mr. Biden said Friday that his daily work is a cognitive test, which is the problem. Here’s how the President answered Mr. Stephanopoulos’s question Friday on his debate performance:

“Yeah, look. The whole way I prepared, nobody’s fault, mine. Nobody’s fault but mine. I, uh—I prepared what I usually would do sittin’ down as I did come back with foreign leaders or National Security Council for explicit detail. And I realized—’bout partway through that, you know, all—I get quoted the New York Times had me down, at 10 points before the debate, nine now, or whatever the hell it is. The fact of the matter is that, what I looked at is that he also lied 28 times. I couldn’t—I mean, the way the debate ran, not—my fault, no one else’s fault, no one else’s fault.”

It’s admirable that he didn’t blame his advisers, but Mr. Biden has a hard time finishing a sentence, much less completing an argument. When he loses his train of thought he deflects with the word “anyway.”

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DAVID AXELROD: It was actually Donald Trump that helped make Joe Biden the nominee because there was a feeling that if there were a primary, that that would weaken -- that Biden would probably win, but it would weaken him in a general election. And so there are people who could have run and didn't run because the history of that is bad.

The point is now he is the nominee of the Democratic Party. This isn't the 60s, okay. Voters choose the nominee. He is the nominee only he can decide whether he's going to continue, and as you point out, this is a guy with a lot of pride who believes in himself. The idea that he's going to say, "You know, I had a bad debate, I think I'm going to walk away from this." I find it hard to believe.

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DAVID AXELROD: He should not view it as being pushed out of politics. I really have a very high regard for Joe Biden. I served with him in the White House. I thought he was a great vice president. I was glad every day that he was there. He was an important voice in the Obama administration. I think he's done some historically important things, and history will be much kinder to him than voters are being right now.

But the question is, what will his reputation be like? What will his legacy be if he persists in this race, and loses and loses badly, which is really possible at this point., We elect presidents by the electoral college. I know there are some polls that speak otherwise, but I've looked at a ton of data and no one in those states who is knowledgeable would say he's ahead in any of the battleground states. But now we have states like Virginia, Minnesota, and Maine, the governors of New Mexico, and Maine reportedly told them in that meeting last week that they're not sure he can carry their states, which were presumed to be in his column. So he could lose and take the House and the Senate with him. That it's not the legacy that he wants.

He has a great, great record and a great history. So I think if that's what he's thinking, he's looking at this the wrong way. The only thing that's pushing them out of politics is the immutable march of time.

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COLBERT: So, should he stay? Should he go? Who am I to recommend? I don’t know what’s going on in Joe Biden’s mind. Something I apparently have in common with Joe Biden. The debate was 11 days ago nd everybody is still talking about it. It’s a shame because Joe Biden is a great president...

I don’t know what’s the right thing to do here... And I think that this is actually a battle of two virtues. One of them is perseverance. Biden is famous for that... The competing virtue here is self-sacrifice. Self-sacrifice takes a particular kind of courage, and that is a courage I believe Joe Biden is capable of. I believe he’s a good enough man. He is a good enough president to put the needs of the country ahead of the needs of his ego, and however painful that might be, it is possible handing leadership to a younger generation is the right thing for the greater goodest. Or good as. Either one.

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DANA BASH, CNN: That's exactly what I was going to ask Jon about because Jon, you were at that fundraiser as well. I don't know if you spend as much time with President Biden as George Clooney did since he was one of the hosts. But that I'm totally with you, David. That quote was like, wow.

JON FAVREAU, FORMER OBAMA ADVISOR: I mean, it was not surprising to any of us who were at the fundraiser. I was there. Clooney was exactly right. And every single person I talked to at the fundraiser thought the same thing, except for the people working for Joe Biden, or at least they didn't say that.

But I remember my wife, Emily, turned to me after the fundraiser and said, what are we going to do? I mean, and I said, well, there's a debate in a week. Either he'll do well in the debate and we'll think, well, he was just tired because he flew all the way back from Europe and that'll be that or he'll be like this at the debate and then the whole country will be talking about it. So here we are.

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Never underestimate the destructive power of a stubborn old narcissist with something to prove.

Ideally no one gets hurt along the way: Maybe grandpop refuses to give up his license, drives into an oak tree, and only the car gets totaled. But sometimes there are casualties: Maybe a pedestrian gets hit.

President Joe Biden, 81, is acting like one of history’s most negligent and pigheaded leaders at a crucial moment, and right now, we are all pedestrians.

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