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"No Wall In Any Form": Govt Shutdown Odds Explode Amid Trump-Schumer Standoff

With a potential government shutdown just days away, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (NY) dug in on Sunday, telling Meet The Press that President Trump is "not going to get the wall in any form."

Last Tuesday Trump, Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) clashed over Trump's $5 billion demand for border wall funding in an awkwardly televised argument in the Oval Office, prompting Schumer to later declare on the Senate Floor: "I want to be crystal clear. There will be no additional appropriations to pay for the border wall. It’s done."

The New York Democrat echoed his comments on Meet The Press Sunday, telling host Chuck Todd that Trump doesn't have the votes in the House or the Senate - saying that the president is having a "temper tantrum" over the wall.

"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi at a recent news conference. "So … if nothing is going to change in that regard, I don’t know why we just don’t proceed to keep government open so that people can be home for the holidays."

Meanwhile, the odds of a shutdown spiked to 58% on PredictIt, nearly double what it was 24 hours ago.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-16/no-wall-any-form-govt-shutdo
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"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi

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"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi

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"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi

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If you're quoting Pelosi to discredit Trump, you're discrediting yourself.

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"They do not have the votes to pass the president’s proposal — $5 billion or whatever it is for the wall," said Pelosi

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If you're quoting Pelosi to discredit Trump, you're discrediting yourself.

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Do you think Trump is being honest when he talks about the wall and the $5 billion? Do you think the wall will solve the immigration problem?

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US Fires Tear Gas Into Mexico As "Violent Mob" Of Migrants Rush Border

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US border agents have reportedly fired tear gas into Mexico to push back against what one official called a "violent mob" of migrants as they rushed the US-Mexico border near Tijuana.

Reuters reports that clouds of the noxious gas could be seen wafting up from around the fence at the border. One migrant picked up a canister and threw it back into U.S. territory.

More than 150 Central American migrants approached an area of the border in Tijuana in the Playas neighborhood near the beach late on Monday.

Migrants said they thought security measures might be relaxed due to the New Year’s holiday.

U.S. security personnel fired tear gas into Mexico after midnight as some migrants prepared to climb a border fence, according to the Reuters witness. During a second attempt, migrants began to pass youths and children over the razor wire along the fencing to the U.S. side.

U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman called the group “a violent mob” and said they had thrown projectiles at agents who responded with “the minimum force necessary to defend themselves.”

“Congress needs to fully fund the border wall,” Waldman said in a statement.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said in a statement the gas was aimed upwind of people throwing rocks on the Mexican side who obstructed agents from helping the children being passed over razor wire.

CBP said most of the migrants attempting to cross returned to Mexico while 25 people, including two teenagers, were detained.

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U.S. agents fire tear gas into Mexico at 'violent mob' near border

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - U.S. border agents launched tear gas into Mexico early on Tuesday to deter a group of migrants that one official called “a violent mob” from crossing over from Tijuana, according to a Reuters witness and the U.S. government.

Clouds of the noxious gas could be seen wafting up from around the fence at the border. One migrant picked up a canister and threw it back into U.S. territory.

U.S. officials said the group had attacked agents with projectiles but a Reuters witness did not see any migrants throwing rocks at U.S. agents.

Tijuana has become a flashpoint in the debate over U.S. immigration policy, which has been intensified by the recent deaths of two migrant children in American custody and a partial U.S. government shutdown over U.S. President Donald Trump’s demand for $5 billion in funding for a wall along the border with Mexico.

A previous incident in November when U.S. agents fired gas into Mexico to disperse migrants triggered a call from Mexico’s government for an investigation, as well as international condemnation.

Mexico Foreign Ministry spokesman Roberto Velasco said the government “regrets the events” at the border. He said Mexico “advocates respect for migrants’ human rights, security and integrity, while calling for respect for laws on both sides of the border.”

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We could also call this thread SO ... ABOUT THIS WALL.

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US Fires Tear Gas Into Mexico As "Violent Mob" Of Migrants Rush Border

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US border agents have reportedly fired tear gas into Mexico to push back against what one official called a "violent mob" of migrants as they rushed the US-Mexico border near Tijuana.

Reuters reports that clouds of the noxious gas could be seen wafting up from around the fence at the border. One migrant picked up a canister and threw it back into U.S. territory.

More than 150 Central American migrants approached an area of the border in Tijuana in the Playas neighborhood near the beach late on Monday.

Migrants said they thought security measures might be relaxed due to the New Year’s holiday.

U.S. security personnel fired tear gas into Mexico after midnight as some migrants prepared to climb a border fence, according to the Reuters witness. During a second attempt, migrants began to pass youths and children over the razor wire along the fencing to the U.S. side.

U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman called the group “a violent mob” and said they had thrown projectiles at agents who responded with “the minimum force necessary to defend themselves.”

“Congress needs to fully fund the border wall,” Waldman said in a statement.

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said in a statement the gas was aimed upwind of people throwing rocks on the Mexican side who obstructed agents from helping the children being passed over razor wire.

CBP said most of the migrants attempting to cross returned to Mexico while 25 people, including two teenagers, were detained.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-02/us-fires-tear-gas-mexico-vio
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U.S. agents fire tear gas into Mexico at 'violent mob' near border

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - U.S. border agents launched tear gas into Mexico early on Tuesday to deter a group of migrants that one official called “a violent mob” from crossing over from Tijuana, according to a Reuters witness and the U.S. government.

Clouds of the noxious gas could be seen wafting up from around the fence at the border. One migrant picked up a canister and threw it back into U.S. territory.

U.S. officials said the group had attacked agents with projectiles but a Reuters witness did not see any migrants throwing rocks at U.S. agents.

Tijuana has become a flashpoint in the debate over U.S. immigration policy, which has been intensified by the recent deaths of two migrant children in American custody and a partial U.S. government shutdown over U.S. President Donald Trump’s demand for $5 billion in funding for a wall along the border with Mexico.

A previous incident in November when U.S. agents fired gas into Mexico to disperse migrants triggered a call from Mexico’s government for an investigation, as well as international condemnation.

Mexico Foreign Ministry spokesman Roberto Velasco said the government “regrets the events” at the border. He said Mexico “advocates respect for migrants’ human rights, security and integrity, while calling for respect for laws on both sides of the border.”

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-border/u-s-agents-f
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/19/mexico-caravan-migrants-
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3,000 caravaners crossed Thursday, 3,000 crossed Friday from Honduras to Guatemalsa, en route to Mexico. Scheduled to arrive at US Border just in time for Election Day.


Libtard denial of Soros funding in ...3...2...1...

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AFAIK Trump made Mexico shoulder the burden by kicking people back over the border to Mexico - making Mexico interested in keeping people from crossing over its southern border instead of just allowing people to pass through on their way to the US.

We'll see how that's working.

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I'd say somebody did a great job slowing the flow across the border starting in 2008, and the name of that person was Great Recession. Before then, another person named Nine Eleven started the reduction.

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I'd say somebody did a great job slowing the flow across the border starting in 2008, and the name of that person was Great Recession. Before then, another person named Nine Eleven started the reduction.

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lol. Funny when disasters are better than our politicians.


Even so, still almost 1,100 people every single day, and according to that graph, that's only the ones "apprehended" on the SW border. It doesn't account for all of those that make it, and it doesn't specify what happens to them after they are apprehended either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I'd say somebody did a great job slowing the flow across the border starting in 2008, and the name of that person was Great Recession. Before then, another person named Nine Eleven started the reduction.

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lol. Funny when disasters are better than our politicians.


Even so, still almost 1,100 people every single day, and according to that graph, that's only the ones "apprehended" on the SW border. It doesn't account for all of those that make it, and it doesn't specify what happens to them after they are apprehended either.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Yup, Economy is a factor in Illegal Immigration. I'm not sure I have heard you refer to Obamanomics as disaster before, exactly.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/19/mexico-caravan-migrants-
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3,000 caravaners crossed Thursday, 3,000 crossed Friday from Honduras to Guatemalsa, en route to Mexico. Scheduled to arrive at US Border just in time for Election Day.


Libtard denial of Soros funding in ...3...2...1...

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/19/mexico-caravan-migrants-
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3,000 caravaners crossed Thursday, 3,000 crossed Friday from Honduras to Guatemalsa, en route to Mexico. Scheduled to arrive at US Border just in time for Election Day.


Libtard denial of Soros funding in ...3...2...1...

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Has it arrived yet?

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I heard report that January saw a surge of 6,000 unaccompanied minors crossing to be Illegal Aliens.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I keep hearing they have actual trains, on railroads, bringing Illegal Alien invaders from south of Mexico to the Biden Open Border.

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