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Goodbye to time changes? Donald Trump says he will push to end daylight saving time

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Sunday, December 15, 2024 5:51 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/13/trum
p-end-daylight-saving-time/76970595007
/

I'm not going to dig through 30 pages here to find the thread I made about this back when the House passed it and then it died in the Senate.

Getting rid of Daylight Saving Time will make a very large portion of the population happier half of the days out of the year, particularly right now when it's dark before 5PM. And once we do it I think Canada will jump on board almost immediately.

Good for you Don. I hope they let you do it.

Let's see Congress block you on this one and watch their single-digit approval get cut in half.


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Sunday, December 15, 2024 6:46 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I have an even better idea, Don.

Why don't we put it to a vote?

Let the people decide.


You want to unite the country? I don't care who you vote for, chances are at least 9 out of 10 people hate losing an hour of daylight in the winter.

Why don't you put that to a vote even though you already know it would EASILY pass if you gave that choice to the people?

It doesn't matter if the vote is just a formality for something that you could get done anyhow. I'd say the potential positive benefits from doing this would actually warrant a good chunk of change be spent to facilitate it. This one thing so many people have wanted for so long.... If you gave them all the chance to feel like they had power and that their voice mattered on something that they can actually feel and experience every other 6 months for the rest of their lives? And something they can all agree on?

I couldn't imagine a better gift to give the people when you start your 1 Year Long America Party than to tell them that we will never turn the clocks back again and that The American People had their voices heard and they own this long-overdue change together.



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Sunday, December 15, 2024 8:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Trying tell that to an Indian Reservation or people in Alaska who need to save what little daylight they get in winter.

Good thing the USA isn't a type of Democracy where the Government steps in tells everyone what to do...not yet...States will do their own thing a Federation of States, Federalism and rights under the Constitution or your State is supposed to have Constitution Annotated rights.... Arizona does its own thing anyways its part of their 'identity' not being able to reset the clock. It matters less in the Southern parts of the USA, Florida, California, Hawaii, Arizona but

Northern States its a big thing, Alaska you do need save daylight? Most probably yes... and North of Washington State, Michigan, North Dakota, Canadians would be awake at crazy hours of the morning without it in Summer and awake at crazy hours of the night during late sunset, it does save light in the darker norther countries when kids are going to school. One option would be to have kids go to school later in the morning when its brighter or have people follow the Sun as farmers did in the past. However its not a US dictatorship yet nor a monarchy, States can chose what they wish, even in Arizona the Natives do their own thing Navajo Indian Reservation extends into Utah and New Mexico and observes daylight saving time to coordinate tribal affairs, there is a theory in Arizona the 'cooling' is costing energy extra hour of sunlight while people are active would cause people to run their electrical cooling systems longer, thereby using more energy.

Florida has always been weird, just as it is long it is also wide like Texas, Nebraska and Kansas and Florida straddles two time zones

Logistics and Safety, they already thought this through Aircraft stay on Universal time, Airports have their own system but local people with their watches and clocks on the wall can change the clocks whatever they want in their own homes.

and Arizona doing its own thing has the truckers in New Mexico and California confused whenever the clocks change.

if youre in the equator Africa, Sudan, Angola, Venezuela, Indonesia saving daylight does matter so much when you don't have winters nor any seasons

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Monday, December 16, 2024 2:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/13/trum
p-end-daylight-saving-time/76970595007
/

I'm not going to dig through 30 pages here to find the thread I made about this back when the House passed it and then it died in the Senate.

Getting rid of Daylight Saving Time will make a very large portion of the population happier half of the days out of the year, particularly right now when it's dark before 5PM. And once we do it I think Canada will jump on board almost immediately.

Good for you Don. I hope they let you do it.

Let's see Congress block you on this one and watch their single-digit approval get cut in half.


Well, sooner or later, everybody is going to make a bonehead move. Based upon 6ix's comments, it seemed this was one for Trump.

But it seems 6ix might be confused.

The story headlines the end of DST. The story details the same. It also mentons that the legislation from 2022 was doing the same. Not sure if that is accurate.

I had thought the legislation was Libtards and RINOs making DST permanent. 6ix seemed to imply he thought the same about this proposal, but he is not really clear.

Making DST permanent would be dumb. Ending DST might be OK.

This coming Saturday Winter starts. And the daylight will last about 9 1/2 hours. Night would have the remaining 14 1/4 hours. So, yes, winter has about 5 hours less daylight than summer. This is not affected by how we set our clocks.

Ending DST means we lose an hour of productivity in Spring, Summer, Fall. This increase in productivity was a prime reason DST was created to start with.

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Monday, December 16, 2024 3:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Trying tell that to an Indian Reservation or people in Alaska who need to save what little daylight they get in winter.



Tough shit. They'll adjust.

They live in Alaska. They're among the most adaptable people living on earth today just by the sheer virtue of that. They don't whine like white college educated liberals do about everything.

I'm sure anything that needs the sun can still be done while the sun is up no matter what time the clock is saying that it is.



I'd assume that unless you're a banker or some other job that absolutely needs to be done on the time table to match the Federal Reserves rules (and penalties), nobody living in Alaska would even need to change any behavior if they didn't want to outside of retraining how they perceive clocks every other 6 months. It's not as if anybody doing any ice farming in Alaska needs to get up an hour later and shave off an hour of daylight from their productivity every day just because their watches tell them the time is what it is.

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Monday, December 16, 2024 3:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/13/trum
p-end-daylight-saving-time/76970595007
/

I'm not going to dig through 30 pages here to find the thread I made about this back when the House passed it and then it died in the Senate.

Getting rid of Daylight Saving Time will make a very large portion of the population happier half of the days out of the year, particularly right now when it's dark before 5PM. And once we do it I think Canada will jump on board almost immediately.

Good for you Don. I hope they let you do it.

Let's see Congress block you on this one and watch their single-digit approval get cut in half.


Well, sooner or later, everybody is going to make a bonehead move. Based upon 6ix's comments, it seemed this was one for Trump.

But it seems 6ix might be confused.

The story headlines the end of DST. The story details the same. It also mentons that the legislation from 2022 was doing the same. Not sure if that is accurate.

I had thought the legislation was Libtards and RINOs making DST permanent. 6ix seemed to imply he thought the same about this proposal, but he is not really clear.

Making DST permanent would be dumb. Ending DST might be OK.

This coming Saturday Winter starts. And the daylight will last about 9 1/2 hours. Night would have the remaining 14 1/4 hours. So, yes, winter has about 5 hours less daylight than summer. This is not affected by how we set our clocks.

Ending DST means we lose an hour of productivity in Spring, Summer, Fall. This increase in productivity was a prime reason DST was created to start with.




Dude. I don't know what the fucking names are, nor do I care.

I made it very clear that nobody likes living in the middle of winter when it's dark out before 5PM.

They were voting to put an end to that. Period.


You get hung up on the dumbest shit. You didn't even need to make this post because you know exactly where I'm coming from.

You are not illiterate. Grow the fuck up.



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Monday, December 16, 2024 11:28 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elec
tions/2024/12/13/trump-end-daylight-saving-time/76970595007/

I'm not going to dig through 30 pages here to find the thread I made about this back when the House passed it and then it died in the Senate.

Getting rid of Daylight Saving Time will make a very large portion of the population happier half of the days out of the year, particularly right now when it's dark before 5PM. And once we do it I think Canada will jump on board almost immediately.

Good for you Don. I hope they let you do it.

Let's see Congress block you on this one and watch their single-digit approval get cut in half.


Well, sooner or later, everybody is going to make a bonehead move. Based upon 6ix's comments, it seemed this was one for Trump.

But it seems 6ix might be confused.

The story headlines the end of DST. The story details the same. It also mentons that the legislation from 2022 was doing the same. Not sure if that is accurate.

I had thought the legislation was Libtards and RINOs making DST permanent. 6ix seemed to imply he thought the same about this proposal, but he is not really clear.

Making DST permanent would be dumb. Ending DST might be OK.

This coming Saturday Winter starts. And the daylight will last about 9 1/2 hours. Night would have the remaining 14 1/4 hours. So, yes, winter has about 5 hours less daylight than summer. This is not affected by how we set our clocks.

Ending DST means we lose an hour of productivity in Spring, Summer, Fall. This increase in productivity was a prime reason DST was created to start with.

Dude. I don't know what the fucking names are, nor do I care.

I made it very clear that nobody likes living in the middle of winter when it's dark out before 5PM.

They were voting to put an end to that. Period.

You get hung up on the dumbest shit. You didn't even need to make this post because you know exactly where I'm coming from.

You are not illiterate. Grow the fuck up.

Well. That was clear as mud.
I don't mind discussing this, but I guess some definitions are needed for clarity.

Clock time and scheduling is a construct of modern man. There is no real astronomical or astrometric designation of time anywhere, unless you accept Greenwich Mean Time.

Colonial America had only one time. Later, the Time Zones in America were defined by an employee of the Railroad, so he could set schedules and communications.
The Eastern Time Zone in USA spans from about 66 degrees 56 minutes at Lubec Maine to about 89 degrees 50 minutes at the western edge of Carp Lake, Michigan. A span of almost 23 degrees of longitude. Globally, each Time Zone occupies an average of 15 degrees.

Currently, USA is not in Daylight Savings Time. So for all or most US residents in contiguous northern states, sunset is before 5pm. Having Daylight Savings Time right now would move sunset 1 hour later, and many of the same residents - but not all- would see sunset after 5pm.
This would be permanent Daylight Savings Time, and if I understand 6ix correctly, this is what he is pushing for. This is also what I had thought the 2022 legislation was striving for - but the article states the opposite.

Permanent DST has been tried once before in America, but was abruptly aborted after enough Americans finally woke up and realized what an unmitigated disaster it was.

The article claims that Trump wants to end Daylight Savings Time, and the 2022 legislation tried the same. I have not delved into the accuracy of the article's claim. Fake News is frequently confused or making false statements.
This would mean we would not move the clocks forward in the coming months. Then, nearing summer, kids could get up at 4:30 sunrise (or 4:00, 3:30 in some parts) and go fishing or play a few games of baseball before going to school, all tired and worn out. Or do 3 hours of chores to start their day.
This would result in less productivity and higher energy costs in summer.
Maybe each region or state could choose what clock time they wanted to have.

In 1984 the Summer Olympics were held in Los Angeles. For this couple week period, LA businesses shifted and staggered their work shifts and start times, thus the commute timing. The famous LA traffic jams evaporated for this period.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 9:25 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


British a long history
do we need a recap, sailed the seas a huge Empire, Scottish, Romans, Anglo Saxons...they had the best ships and set the clocks to GMT.
There was a lot of debate about the rational in industrial nations, Port Arthur, Ontario, Canada, was the first city in the world to enact DST

for Arizona, the Native American civilizations and there seems to be something of tribes moving, Ancestral Puebloan cultures, Spanish Mexican culture, the Mexican–American War, Mexican Cession or in Spanish Cesión mexicana is the region in the modern-day Western United States that Mexico previously controlled...Arizona like Mexico pushed to end daylight savings time.


Now why would the British the English want to save daylight hours? is the daylight and productive time in England different to other places for example Africa where there is little difference between Summer and Winter?

a vid

Summer 3:30 am daylight, the Sun clearly up at 5 am
does not get dark until after 10 pm
Winter 8 o clock daylight daylight and Sun not really visible on dark cloudy winter
Winter getting darker by 3 o clock, the Sun set after 4 o clock

Summer Solstice vs. Winter Solstice: Side-by-Side Time-lapse



from England Manchester, at the latitude of 53.5°N.

The 46th parallel north a latitude that is 46 degrees north of the Earth's equatorial plane. It crosses Europe, Asia, the Pacific Ocean, North America, and the Atlantic Ocean, the Washington/Oregon border, Idaho, Montana, Ontario
Quebec, United States Maine, Canada New Brunswick, Nova Scotia North Dakota, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, France, Italy, a little above the most northern point of Spain is Punta de Estaca de Bares in Galicia, passing through Switzerland...

People with common sense should ignore politics and do whats best for their state

I'm not telling people how to pick their option on Time Changes but....

HINT HINT
the USA is huge, the problems might continue to be huge, growing into something worse and worse...of course you could just go full Putin, Tokyo and Being and tell your population THEY MUST
you must respect our government authority, obey!!
this would be a big thing in the USA as USA about 75 times larger than England.
Alabama is roughly the same amount of land as England while the state of Oregon is the size of Britain...the Larger Historical British Empire doesn't really exist anymore and people have the freedom to decide their own clocks away from the authority of the Queen of England or King of King.
Every political balkanized partisan state will want to to their own thing depending on what DC politicians they are trying to ass-kiss or what politicians they want to fight...within states the 'States' themselves might no longer have unity and break from each other.

HINT HINT
if you are a Southern State near Mexico or Cuba or Haiti you might consider ending daylight savings times...also the loony religion Zio-Jews and loony Jihad-muslims can move to your State they can keep their head in the religion sand and not be worried about time changes to their 'rituals'

HINT HINT
if you are a Northern State near the Canada border you could save daylight by moving your clocks
as the changes will be larger the further North your move.


Florida has 2 time zones Eastern and Central being such a long state but also a wide ...Eastern and Central
and there's a part of Texas that does its own Timezone thing, it divides El Paso from the rest of Texas which annoys the other Texans, Central and Mountain, North Dakota and Michigan and Indiana have more than one time zone, on the West Coast Pacific, then you have Hawaii time and Alaska easier to follow


So let's say you are Texas or maybe North Dakota and you go with 'Trump' or you are Indiana or Michigan or Florida and you go with Trump
...so you decide No clock changes...so what do you keep permanent does Indiana now switch to Eastern or Central, does it stay on Summer or does it stay on Winter
does North Dakota stay in Winter time or stay in Summer or does it go Mountain Time or Central
how about Idaho or Portland, both of these have two time zones


As in all politics and government ideas, changing the clocks
it could be one expensive colossal political mess a huge expensive bureaucratic fuckup costing millions up million in expensive printed pages of legal Attorney Lawyer nonsense.






For scumbag theocratic religious nuts the jihadi islamo Muslims and crazy Zionist Jews it makes religious practices such as ritual, their prayer, bite foreskins off babies, mutilate genitals of girls, waving a chicken around your head, doing superstition actions, or praying to revered objects and fasting more difficult or inconvenient for these religion idiots, the the religion loons and cults, rites of passage, events for oaths dedication ceremonies the clock changes makes it so much more complex for them.
Muslim countries, such as Morocco, have temporarily abandoned DST during the Ramadan Bombathons...because illiterate jihadist rapists Mahomet probably didn't understand how to change a clock anyways, he just waited until 'night' or when the Moon was up to raid and kill and rape people?
https://web.archive.org/web/20201101041718/https://www.theguardian.com
/news/2019/oct/21/spring-forward-fall-back-who-changes-the-clocks-when-and-why



a lot of African countries, Pakistan and Arabia have never changed a clock so the Daylight debate means nothing to them
they have never used DST


Trump wants the USA to set its clocks to 'New Mar-a-Lago Florida Africa Arizona Time' such a pain in the ass for them having to change the clocks at the resort
they can chill out and not worry about something as complex as clocks just like the Middle East, Pakistan, Venezuela and Africa.


Anti-progress anti-time changes keep your watch fixed and saying good bye to changes?


its good for Somali Africa, Panama, Venezuela, Indonesia, the Congo Africa...there is little difference between Winter and Summer so they don't need to change their clocks, almost same for a lot of California or Florida they are very Southern


Trump's daylight saving time plan and sleep: What you must know
https://www.foxla.com/news/trumps-daylight-saving-time-plan-sleep


Trump wants to get rid of daylight saving
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-wants-rid-daylight-saving-153632066.h
tml




People might go back to doing their own thing especially in Northern States or Alaska, if it requires you change to having the almost retired elderly staying up, old people going to bed at 11:30 only to rise at 3:30 and see total daylight and never experience a true night or sun set or if you rise in winter. It was done in the past so farms would be more productive in Northern States and people only see hours and hours of daylight or hours and hours of darkness while you spend the daylight hours working indoors. A danger is your kids going to school in the dark would be a big thing especially if you face dangers like wild animals roaming, Bears, Wolves, big wild Cats, not too many Cougars or Puma in Alaska anymore but many seen in British Columbia and Alberta provinces of Canada, the Wolf can be found all over Eurasia and North America, very hazardous for kids to simply be walking in the dark.







and soon the 'World Government' Tells you what to do as a State? it tells a Solar system what clocks and watches it must buy?




the day on Mars is almost 24 and a half hours long, 24.5 hrs aprox
a day cycle on Saturn's Moon Titan lasts about 16 Earth days, .
on Europa its about 3 and a half days or 85 hours
its radioactive on Mars, dusty, dry and 'cold as hell' as the song goes, one Mars year that is one orbit around the about 687 Earth days long almost 1.9 Earth years


Would Musk or China enforce 'Day Light Saving' or 'No Daylight Savings' or would the people who built their own counties and provinces and Martian states be free to chose their own paths?


and you know what...in summer it gets HOT... Arizona, Texas and Florida big swings into extreme heat
Your buildings get HOT HOT HOT!
burn electric power and coal to run Air Conditioner in places civilization didn't really live in the past
and because of crazy politics more people move away from temperate moderate coastal eras deeper into Desert regions where mankind never lived before.


Why doesn't Arizona observe daylight savings?





Japan used it for a while but Tokyo didn't like it so all of Japan said good bye to change, a country in stagnation. Russians tried it for a while and then Moscow said goodbye but then Russia is very Russian.
North Korea uses it but then again North Korea faces power shortages and famine so it might have to return to natural daylight and save old electricity light bulbs.
Chinese, they are Communist they tried it for a while and then Beijing said no.
Putin declared in 2011 that it would stay in DST all year long (UTC+4:00) and Belarus followed with a similar declaration
https://web.archive.org/web/20171019034933/https://www.timeanddate.com
/news/time/belarus-eternal-dst.html



Some of Canada says yes while some of Canada says no...at least they get a free choice

Chile in South America or República de Chile and New Zealand, they operate a time system called Southern Hemisphere summer


In Australia they had a choice of both yes and no so four Australian states closer to the Southern Pole Antarctica Observe Savings.

Get your ass out of bed earlier you lazy French hedonists?
Benjamin Franklin suggested that if Parisians could only wake up earlier in the summer they would economize on candle and oil usage, but he did not propose changing the clocks
https://web.archive.org/web/20210601024205/https://www.fi.edu/benjamin
-franklin/daylight-savings-time



My guess is that it only divides the USA even more, Red States not all but some will follow Trump and Ban daylight Savings
and Blue states not all but some will try resist.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 11:31 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the future among the stars?

NASA wants to come up with a new clock for the moon, where seconds tick away faster
https://phys.org/news/2024-04-nasa-clock-moon-seconds-faster.html

but
Trump doing Yemen, Jamaica, Indonesia, Puerto Rico, Africa time keeping?
the only thing more crazy Trump could worse from here on is to go Napoleon digital and do French time

yes indeed there once was a French time that was going to ban DST and English GMT time itself, even change the 'second' it was a calendar created and implemented during the French Revolution, and used by the French government for about 12 years from late 1793 to 1805, and for 18 days by the Paris Commune in 1871, and meant to replace the meaning of 'Time' since they thought time is in fact 'Fake' and scheduling nothing more a construct of modern man without any designation of time anywhere...no Pulsars, No Ice Ages, No Solar Cycles, No Winter, No Summer Daylight Hours...everything is just philosophical.

As crazy as that French system sounds it had an actual logic to it, they wanted to change because modern time keeping is based on a Babylonian system at times it does not add up. It was great for its period and the Babylonians are no longer here. In anicent Babylon they used the number six and twelve and 24 a lot, and timekeeping device called the sundial and divided the imaginary circular path of the Sun into 12 equal parts on the dial.
the Moon orbits the Earth about 27.32 days, it is tidally locked with our Earth but it is not an exact time piece so many cultures tried to divide months into something like 30 or 24 or 28 for time keeping, there were all different ways at look at time from the Mayan to Pagans of Europe to Egypt to China to Greece and Rome, the Bronze Age cultures and Vedic India culture, Arabia and Sumerian calendars the lunisolar calendar.
The Babylonian used different math, 6 and 12 and 24 and also numerals with base 60, there are other modern systems in computing such as Binary just 1 and 0 combinations and Hexadecimal or Vigesimal, also older senary or seximal numeral systems.
The Gregorian calendar is the calendar used in most parts of the world but in other eras and periods other forms of time keeping were used, it is very Babylon Jew Arab influced in the West which then spread from Rome and later the Church and the British Empire across the world is why we have 24 hours and sixty seconds and the month and later GMT and Canadian 'Daylight Savings'.


Until your new Caesar a Putin or Tokyo or Beijing says goodbye to State freedoms and everyone must follow the new time rule.
Say hello to your new Yemen, Jamaica, Indonesia, Puerto Rico, Africa time?


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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 11:31 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


with the left vs right and rightwing vs leftwing divide so extreme its the 'wrong time' to push this stuff??


Trump attempts to ban DST will lead to more 'extreme polarization'?


Readers Write: Addiction, the Electoral College, MPD budget, daylight saving time
https://www.startribune.com/readers-write-addiction-the-electoral-coll
ege-mpd-budget-daylight-saving-time/601198996



good movie here btw Scandanavian Noir

Stellan Skarsgard Norway movie



Insomnia thriller film


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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 2:39 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Never a wrong time to make it so no American sees darkness until after 5PM every day of the year.

Everybody else can figure it out. They can use AI to figure out what time it is in Chicago if that's part of their job and they're too stupid to do the math themselves.


India shouldn't have a problem with it. They've got 1 Billion engineers that shit in the streets every day.

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Sunday, January 12, 2025 1:55 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Donald Trump wants to change how time works forever. Here’s why
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-t
rump-daylight-saving-time-b2675084.html


does it matter if your house burns to ash at 11:30 or 12:30 ...just as long as the Fire Trucks and Helicopters carrying water arrive on time?

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