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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
So he was dying of cancer?

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Between his [apparent] Parkinson's and [apparent] dementia and [announced] prostate cancer, what he actually dies of is a race to the ...ahh ... finish.

But, yanno, they hid his cognitive impairment for four years, so I don't know if I believe the announcement either. Maybe it's just a play for sympathy. Yanno, stop beating up on the old guy, he's got cancer.

BTW, he MAY have prostate cancer, but prostate cancer doesn't cause the symptoms we were seeing.
Just sayin'

- "Doc Simon"

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Unless you are dying of prostate cancer, you're not dying of prostate cancer.

At Joe's age, if he just found out this week that he has prostate cancer with how much a President of the US at his age would have had medical screenings, this is meaningless. He will not die of prostate cancer. He won't even get sick from prostate cancer at any point before he dies of something else at his age.

Now... it could be that he's been living with it for 30 years and the reason that they're announcing it is because it just finally went south. If that is the case, that could be the thing that does it.

From what has been explained to me, prostate cancer is like a time bomb. One that for most people diagnosed with it will never live long enough for it to ever go off. And the surgery to remove it comes with so many risks, it's a good thing too.


At the end of the day, Fuck Joe Biden*.

But at the same time I feel sorry for the dude and how his family let him spend the last 5 or 6 years of his life. That ain't something I'd wish on anybody. And that goes double if the brain damage was real and wasn't all just part of the act too.

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"I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon

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Originally posted by THG:

The democrats are going through changes, that's natural. When AOC first got into office she had raw talent and a big mouth, not much more. She found out Nacy Pelosi knew how points of order worked and experienced republicans would run circles around her until she learned. Pelosi took her under her wing. Now she’s a force. That will happen again with others. It's how it works.

The debate about who should be president, Biden or anyone other than Trump, needed to be made on who would be best suited to run the country. Not who was perfect. MAGA has no clue what Biden and Kamala accomplished because their sources of information are corrupt and false for the most part.

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Need evidence, look how Trump just lied about brokering a cease fire with India and Pakistan. He did no such thing. His saying otherwise really pissed India off and shows how fucked up he is. Doing something like that is incredibly dangerous and could be globally destabilizing. Had Biden done this the reaction from the right would have been deafening. He is senile would be the headline.

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I am posting a bit of the Magna Carta. It states what a persons’ rights are. It is the backbone of our democracy. The fact that MAGA and Trump would destroy this

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along with a bushel of other reasons, is why even with cancer Biden should be president; even better, Kamala. With either, we know America would still be here when we hold our next elections.

“The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution ("no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.") is a direct descendent of Magna Carta's guarantee of proceedings according to the "law of the land." Without it there is no democracy; period. And most of the Supreme Court knows this. Hell, most of the country knows this, but until Trump won, they didn't know they had to worry about it.

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Originally posted by Brenda:
I feel for Mr. Biden and his family. This is a hard road they are starting on and we all know it will not end well.

All any of use can hope for is that any treatments they give will go smoothly and that when the end comes it will be peaceful.

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Upon hearing the news, some of America's top doctors also questioned how a former president could be diagnosed with late stage prostate cancer - which can be detected early with routine bloodwork recommended for all men over the age of 50.

'It is inconceivable that this was not being followed before he left the Presidency,' wrote Dr. Howie Forman, a professor of radiology and biomedical imaging, public health management and economics at Yale.

He noted that the test for prostate-specific antigen would have shown he had cancer 'for some time before this diagnosis', given how aggressive it is.

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Dr. Quay went even further, declaring online that: 'It is highly likely he was carrying a diagnosis of prostate cancer throughout his White House tenure and the American people were uninformed.'

He explained that prostate cancer is the 'easiest... to diagnose when it first starts and to watch it progress to bone metastases.'

'For even with the most aggressive form, it is a five to seven year journey without treatment before it becomes metastatic,' Quay asserted.

'Meaning it would be malpractice for this patient to show up and first be diagnosed with metastatic disease in May 2025.'

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The democrats are going through changes, that's natural. When AOC first got into office she had raw talent and a big mouth, not much more. She found out Nacy Pelosi knew how points of order worked and experienced republicans would run circles around her until she learned. Pelosi took her under her wing. Now she’s a force. That will happen again with others. It's how it works.

The debate about who should be president, Biden or anyone other than Trump, needed to be made on who would be best suited to run the country. Not who was perfect. MAGA has no clue what Biden and Kamala accomplished because their sources of information are corrupt and false for the most part.

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This, from the guy who believes everything the establishment media shits out?

RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!

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BIDEN IS SHARP AS A TACK

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The democrats are going through changes, that's natural. When AOC first got into office she had raw talent and a big mouth, not much more. She found out Nacy Pelosi knew how points of order worked and experienced republicans would run circles around her until she learned. Pelosi took her under her wing. Now she’s a force. That will happen again with others. It's how it works.

The debate about who should be president, Biden or anyone other than Trump, needed to be made on who would be best suited to run the country. Not who was perfect. MAGA has no clue what Biden and Kamala accomplished because their sources of information are corrupt and false for the most part.

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This, from the guy who believes everything the establishment media shits out?

RUSSIA!TRUMP!COLLUSION!

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BIDEN IS SHARP AS A TACK

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Show me where I said Biden was sharp as a tack.

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You lie; and because you lie, you have to always lie. That said, Russian collusion is a fact.

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nHere's another fact. You guys crack me up. I’ll keep this very short and simple, so you have a chance of understanding. Donald Trump lies about everything. Why, because he can’t remember what was said to him 10 minutes ago. He displays this problem every time he opens his mouth. Which is why they say he always listens to, adopts the advice of the last person he spoke with.

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Originally posted by THG:
The argument's over: Americans pay for tariffs

The Trump administration conceded this weekend what economists, CEOs and consumers already knew: Americans pay for tariffs.

Why it matters: Nearly a decade of Trump trade arguments held that foreign countries, not Americans, paid the ultimate cost of a trade war.

But the president and his economic team now acknowledge that tariffs are raising prices for everyone, from industrial ports to retail storefronts.

The big picture: Trump's sweeping global tariffs, effectively the highest in nearly a century, are expected to cost the average household more than $2,300 a year, according to the Yale Budget Lab.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-argument-s-over-americans-
pay-for-tariffs/ar-AA1F2IYJ?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f126bb8294ac4d269975a50b01c7c203&ei=94

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Hey, it starts. I think I'll just post headlines for a bit and let what Trump has done to the country, and even the lives of those posting here, sink in. Get a job Gilligan. You are certainly gonna need it.

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Knowing what I know now, obviously I feel tremendous humility about my coverage. That Lara Trump interview, for example—she saw something that I did not see at the time. 100%. And I own that.

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MEGYN KELLY: Do you want to apologize to Lara Trump now?

JAKE TAPPER: I’ve already apologized to her. I called her months ago.

MEGYN KELLY: And what did she say?

JAKE TAPPER: I mean, I don’t want to disclose the contents of a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well. And she said—she has said this publicly, so I feel fine sharing it—she said that she would never mock anybody’s stutter.

But I mean, after we did the research for this book and I realized how bad his acuity issues were—I called Lara Trump, and I said, “You were right.”

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But as I said—her comments have aged well. My comments have aged poorly. I own that.

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MEGYN KELLY: Over here in my ecosphere, we were covering all of these. It wasn’t just falling down—it was getting lost. It was some of the stuff you report in your book.

We knew and we were reporting on—the multi-jump cuts in the videos of him, where it was obvious he couldn’t get through a one-minute take, so they had to use those. It was clear to us that he was using teleprompters, and there was some reporting on that at the time—all of which the White House was denying.

Now, with the current White House—I have some connections with the Joe Biden White House. I had none. But you did. You did.

And so—while you’ve been in Washington 30 years, Jake, you and CNN have White House connections. But there was no effort—none—to get to the bottom of this.

And now for you guys to write this book like there was a cover-up—it’s like, yes, there was a cover-up. And there was an attempted cover-up. It could only ever work if you allowed it.

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Thompson and Tapper mostly fill in the details of a story we already knew: Biden’s cognition declined sharply over his final two years in office, and his core advisers schemed to disguise this reality from donors, Democratic officials, and the public.

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Now this one, written for The Nation by a guy named Jeet Leer might be worth a read.

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Given the necessity of fighting Trump, there’s a temptation to say that the party doesn’t have time for potentially divisive internal wrangling. But there is a more self-interested reason for wanting not to “wallow in hindsight.” As Tapper and Thompson document, all too many high officials and political strategists, many of whom are still guiding the party, were implicated in Biden’s scandalous coverup. Writing in The Nation, Norman Solomon rightly decried the pervasive “careerism” that implicated all wings of the party, centrists and progressives alike.

The problem with Buttigieg’s refusal to “wallow in hindsight” is that for many voters the failure of the Biden presidency isn’t something that can easily be relegated to the past but remains a reason to distrust the Democratic Party. In particular, the allegation of a cover-up casts a long shadow. A poll conducted by NBC in March showed Democrats were at a historical low point in public esteem, with only 27 percent of Americans having a favorable opinion of the party. In contrast to Buttigieg’s head-in-the-sand attitude, Representative Ro Khanna was more realistic when he posted on Wednesday, “To rebuild trust, Democrats must be honest. In light of the facts that have come out, Joe Biden should not have run for re-election, and we should have had an open primary.”

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If Biden’s decision to run in 2020 was a mistake, the scandal of his presidency encompasses a much wider group of leaders. After all, Biden was faltering in the early primaries when, in a bid to stop Bernie Sanders’s surging campaign, establishment leaders coalesced around Biden as the candidate with the best chance to prevent the left from gaining the nomination. This led to Representative James Clyburn’s pivotal endorsement of Biden before the South Carolina primary, as well as the decision by Pete Buttigieg and Amy Klobuchar to drop out of the race in favor of Biden. Behind the scenes, former president Barack Obama reportedly herded party support in Biden’s direction.

Biden was always a lackluster campaigner. It took the party elite to win him the nomination. His victory in the subsequent general election was also aided by outside factors, notably the Covid disaster (which allowed Biden to do the kind of remote campaigning he preferred) and Trump’s historic unpopularity. If Biden won the 2020 nomination because of the party elite, then his failures belong not just to him alone—or to his inner circle.

After his 2020 victory, Biden’s cognitive decline intersected with his more unpleasant personal traits. The fact that he required the assistance of the party elite to win the nomination did not make Biden a more humble man. Quite the reverse. Biden seems to have seen his victory as a personal vindication against the doubters he thought always underestimated him.

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but, but, but

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