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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
ha! glad you enjoy that stuff, I don't really like old game music at times as sometimes I feel its too 8-bit or 16-bit but then somewhere in the 90s and 2000s the sampling got really good and it became difficult to tell the real instruments from fake electronic sounds, I also admire what composers did with such limited tech. Key changes or modulation is cool, sometimes there is a long chord progression or a final cadence but game stuff usual is supposed to catch you like a commerical advert jingle while at the same time putting you in the zone hypnotic. Sometimes they use tricks, different rhythm and melody, call and response, the canon, or one Low line plays something and the high voice plays something else and eventual it add ups. They can have unsual phrases like those ambient techno songs that almost follow Classical music with unconventional structure instead of your 8 bars, 12 bar blues or 16 bars its not 4 bars of music its something else

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and 5 and 6

a melody based on that can eventually meet with another line based on 8s

1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and five and six and seven and eight

you can repeat the 6s and 8s and eventual they line up

6 + 6 + 6 + 6 = 24
8 + 8 + 8 = 24

then throw in funk chord vamp and a poly rhythm and the listener really gets bamboozled

old style music is back now as people want the old-school 80s and early 90s sound trying to recreate a certain style

its amazing what they did with such limited tech

a 'quarter note' would be interesting, are you sure? I'm not sure but maybe that would be 'microtonal' something you do on synth but more tricky in the real world
a whole tone is A to B or C D E ...Do Re Mi are 'whole tones' the half tone is using the black keys,a mix of white and black on piano for 'simplification' they call it chromatic, it would be the single jump of frets on your guitar or bass that is a 'half tone'...a simplification on quarter tones would be bending a note on guitar, or the cracks between the keys on piano, which you can access on keyboard with one of those pitch bending wheels

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I might have a listen later

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:


Who knows? Maybe if not for that single higher bass note at 6:19 in the loop, I wouldn't think the song is half as great as I do right now?



I had a quick listen you're right there is a change but I don't think its a quarter-tone as you say, I don't have perfect pitch but I dont think its a 24edo or 24tet note

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
the 24 division of scale is a really weird sound

http: //www . youtube . com /watch?v=7-RSg6eMlKE

a note like this would not stand out for its Brightness or Darkness or Happy or Sad but it would sound like Modal Weirdness very 'Exotic'

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I had a quick listen you're right there is a change but I don't think its a quarter-tone as you say, I don't have perfect pitch but I dont think its a 24edo or 24tet note

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Jack: Oh... See... I didn't mean "tone" then. I'm getting our wires crossed. I'm not talking about the sound of any notes, but the length of them. That note I mention that plays right at 6:19 and right around every 51 seconds apart from itself to and from that time stamp.

At every other interval in the entire 51 second loop, the Bass starts at the TOP and goes down, down, down, down to the bottom and then starts at the top again. All except for that very short note. The "quarter-note" being about 1/4th the time I would say in my dummy layman speak what I considered a full note to be. Does that make sense?

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I decided to do a poor-man's brainscan for you, and even learned a bit more about the song while I was at it.

I'm even more impressed with it than I was before because it's even less complicated than I was giving it credit for the last time when I said it was only a 51 second loop and it felt like so much longer.

The Bass only does the "falling motion" I was talking about twice in the loop. But there's so much going on they had the long one taking up space in my head as if my "Anchor" note were sandwitched between them like an oreo cookie.

But it's two sequences just falling before they go right back to the top, with the only deviant note being a "half" note... and not a "quarter note" like I was thinking.


I'm hoping this graph image scan of my brain while listening to this song can illustrate what I mean.



The red ".5" is the deviant note. The only time the Bass goes up. My anchor note.

That line on the left is the bass line going from top to bottom without restarting.

When my anchor note comes in every 51 seconds and bumps it up before the last drop, the bass goes right back to the top in only half the time it took to come back up on the other... well... I guess 2/3rds of the loop.






ETA: The video with the song again.

Anchor note is at 6:19 and loops every roughly 51 seconds before and after it.


And the Bass just falls like tetris pieces otherwise.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

That oscilloscope is scratching all the right itches.

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