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Did Egypt Experience a Coup? The West May Not Be Sure, but Turkey Is

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Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:28 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


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As the U.S. State Department performs all sorts of semantic gymnastics to avoid defining the Egyptian army’s ouster of the country’s Islamist President Mohamed Morsi as a coup, politicians in Turkey have not only recognized it as such but also condemned it in the strongest possible terms. In a speech on July 5, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan refused to split hairs, insisting that “no matter where or against whom, coups are damaging and inhuman, and directed against the people, the national will and democracy.” He also took Western countries to task for insisting that Egyptians’ disaffection with Morsi, as well as the sheer scale of the recent protests against him, justified, in some sense, his overthrow. “There is no such a thing as a democratic coup,” Erdogan quipped. “It is as much a paradox as the living dead.” By refusing to call things by their name, he added, the West, and the E.U. in particular, “had once again disregarded its own principles.” Much more at http://world.time.com/2013/07/08/did-egypt-experience-a-coup-the-west-
may-not-be-sure-but-turkey-is/


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Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:48 AM

AGENTROUKA


It's bad when Erdogan of all people is the one to call you out on democratic principles...

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Tuesday, July 9, 2013 5:57 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Textbook definition of a military coup. But the Politicians here in the US specifically forbade us from giving $ to such countries, and so they suspend reality & look the other way.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

Resident USA Freedom Fundie

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Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:24 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


For Turkey’s Leader, Syria’s War Worsens His Problems at Home

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/world/middleeast/for-turkeys-leader-
syrias-war-worsens-his-problems-at-home.html?_r=0


This week, as Mr. Obama announced he was delaying strikes, the decision seemed to catch Mr. Erdogan by surprise. After volunteering to take part in any military coalition, and advocating a sustained intervention that he hoped would cause the collapse of the Syrian government, diplomatic maneuvering by Russia had left Mr. Assad, for the moment at least, comfortably in power. And it left a central plank of Mr. Erdogan’s foreign policy in disarray.


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Tuesday, September 24, 2013 7:15 AM

OONJERAH


Tawakkol Karman: Egypt's opposition leaders resorted to
military coup after the people rejected them
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/africa/7442-tawakkol-karman-egyp
ts-opposition-leaders-resorted-to-military-coup-after-the-people-rejected-them


"Yemeni activist and Nobel Prize Laureate Tawakkol Karman has described the
events in Egypt since 30 June as a complete military coup to overthrow the
will of the Egyptian people that was expressed by the January revolution.
Furthermore, she believes the coup is a cover up for the military's corrup-
tion that has ruled Egypt for the past 60 years. ..."


So ... our Military is on really good terms with Egypt's Military?



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Monday, September 29, 2025 4:14 AM

JAYNEZTOWN





Venezuela...or USA?



Nearly every single instance of violence that occurred on J6 was captured on video. It's never been a mystery who engaged in the violence on that day. Massive amounts of evidence was available and collected, perpetrators were identified, and charges filed. Many of the perpetrators offered guilty pleas.
https://x.com/JustinWStapley/status/1972246952755741162

Trump pardoned them all.

So...just who are these "FBI instigators" supposed to be? If they are none of the people in the videos engaging in violence, if they were none of the people whose overwhelming evidence led to convictions in the court of law, if we don't have any pictures or videos of anyone engaging in violence beyond those who have been identified as Trump supporters and pardoned by Trump because they were Trump supporters, just where are these "fedsurrection" instigators.

They're nowhere, because the whole idea is complete bull crap. It's just more conspiracy theorizing rubbish. The story of J6 is simple. Donald Trump brought thousands and thousands of his most angry, agitated, and radical supporters to D.C., promised them that Pence and allies in Congress had the power to overturn the election, told them to fight, and then disappeared to the White House and went silent for hours. Meanwhile, extreme right wing militia groups like the Proud Boys and the Oathkeepers came with their own violent agenda from the get go, came dressed for war, and began pushing against Capital barriers even before Trump's speech was over. And when word came down that Pence and Congress had "failed" to overturn the election, a mob mentality ensued and things got completely out of hand. The mob was shouting revolution, they were shouting about fighting for Trump, they were attacking police and calling them traitors, and the police got overwhelmed by a surge of the crowd. And it took hours for the National Guard to get called in, by Pence not Trump, while Trump was radio silent watching the whole scene play out before finally telling people to go home hours and hours after the violence had erupted.

That's what happened, that's the story. Go watch the videos again, go compare the faces between those who clearly engaged in the violence in the video evidence and the faces of everyone that Trump pardoned. There is no fedsurrection, there are no nameless, mysterious individuals committing violence who could be undercover FBI agents. The evidence is clearly, the story is clear and anyone who tells you difference is either deluded or purposely lying to you.

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