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It remains unclear how Trump intends to enforce the no-fly decree, as the US has no authority over Venezuelan airspace.

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But by Sunday afternoon, a FlightRadar24 map showed that there were no international planes flying over Venezuela.

Flights to Aruba and Curacao — near the Venezuelan coast — appeared to be taking the long way around to avoid Venezuela.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

We got the biggest stick and we don't even have to use it.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
However if the USA goes in it will go it alone and there wont be much international support like the beginning of the 'War on Terror' after 911. Nobody is supporting this, Canada, Brazil, France, Spain, Italy, Mexico, Russia, China, India, Germany, Chile, nobody is supporting a USA invasion of 'The Americas'...if anyone or any nation is supporting Trump attacking they are voicing their support maybe in secret by telephone or something?

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people are being killed

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and some in the US Admin now admit

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Confused Trump, 79, Instantly Forgets He Just Refused to Comment

The president told reporters he didn’t want to talk about his call with Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro before confirming in the same breath that it had taken place.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SIX, Trump has lost his way, but you're following right behing bc you're feeling righteously angry, and you just want to show "them", whoever the fuck Trump tells you "they" are.

Maduro has as much to do with drug running as Saddam had to do with uranium. I'm astonished that someone as presumably intelligent as you would get taken by such cheap ass propaganda.

Rampaging thru the world, hemorrhaging money into the military?
Is that MAGA?

No, it's not.

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Trump says “suspected drug running” equals death by drone strike

Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has sent a letter to OPEC Secretary General Haitham Al Ghais accusing the U.S. of trying to take control of Venezuela’s oil reserves through lethal military force against the "country's territory, people, and institutions."

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KHYRON, March 11 2007:

How about: A lot of drugs come from Colombia, therefore the country is evil, and Colombia and Venezuela are sort of identical because the peeps look the same and speak the same funny language, so let's go invade Venezuela!

SIGNY, March 12, 2007:

Nah.... been there, done that with Noriega. Funny, but the flow of drugs didn't even take a little breather after we invaded Panama.

OTOH, most Americans don't remember history so they can get fooled over and over. Might work.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
FROM “We cannot allow Venuezela to unite South America; Dictator? WMD's? We'll think of something“
March 11, 2007
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=27518

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KHYRON, March 11 2007:

How about: A lot of drugs come from Colombia, therefore the country is evil, and Colombia and Venezuela are sort of identical because the peeps look the same and speak the same funny language, so let's go invade Venezuela!

SIGNY, March 12, 2007:

Nah.... been there, done that with Noriega. Funny, but the flow of drugs didn't even take a little breather after we invaded Panama.

OTOH, most Americans don't remember history so they can get fooled over and over. Might work.

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So, SIX ... how many times do YOU want to get fooled?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Venezuelan coup leader María Corina Machado vows to privatize oil: US corporations will ‘make a lot of money’

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Crawling back into my shitshow of a childhood? What the fuck are you smoking?

This ain't about me.

If you're going to deny that American Society in general is absolute shit compared to where it was 40 years ago, this conversation is finished before it began, and I see no reason to continue it.

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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Bolton instructed Trump the Monroe Doctrine ‘alive and well’

It would be crazy for the USA to have boots on the ground, the numbers dont add up, with past events, history to look at we might conclude they in US Politics Military ops might try is backing some narco rebels against another bunch of narco government gang, they did this covertly during the Cold War the government of Latin America or the militia Rebels, attacked by another group backed by the United States...maybe some Special team looking at events on the ground...somewhat indirect to direct support, which said Latin America was the USA's backyard. Theodore Roosevelt’s assertive approach to Latin America and the Caribbean has often been characterized as the “Big Stick,” and his policy came to be known as the Roosevelt Corollary to the Monroe Doctrine. Latin america has been strange, profits and loss and chaotic and eventful for the USA it got worse during the missile crisis under Fidel Castro then clams down as Cuban Nuclear Missiles are withdrawn as well calm down almost coming to an end as the Soviet Union falls.


Relations between the USA and Venezuela used to be ok but they have been getting much worse.


in 2019 Economist, Orinoco Tribune, Seattle Times

Trump adviser Bolton the warhawk now warns Venezuela: Monroe Doctrine ‘alive and well’


Meet the new boss, but....same as the old boss... and so now its Madeleine Albright, Donald Rumsfeld, the Bush family, Soros, Janet Yellen, the ghost of Dick Cheney, Nelson Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell, Henry Paulson, Rubio now running the foreign policy


Grenada was a very small island country of the West Indies in the eastern Caribbean Sea near Venezuela, it is near Colombia, the country formerly known as British Guyana... this island of Grenada is not Venezuela, it was a very small island with villages, the country of Venezuela is big with lots of people it can be compared to Egypt, the US state of California, Texas, the state of Alaska, Libya, France, Spain, Turkey, Iraq, Ukraine, Japan, Germany, Pakistan
Venezuela has swamps, easy smuggling routes on land, mountain peaks, vast tropical plains, dense rainforests, different climates from hot semi arid, to climate of tropics, to cold highland with dry winters to tropical savanna to hot desert on the coast where any invasion to capture or arrest some local guy would happen.
They do have a military Bolivarian Army of Venezuela, Navy of Venezuela, Military Aviation of Venezuela...it is only impressive when compared to the other small countries of the region, compared to the USA they are nothing and no country on Earth really compares to the power of US Forces.

If they were to fight out at sea with their ships trying to fight USA ships and their aircraft trying to battle US Fighters they are finished.

Trump wants Maduro to have already stepped down, he wants him gone.

I'm not sure this will happen

They have a huge Marxist militia a type of military police hidden everywhere it is a presidential republic but under an authoritarian dictatorship

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Crawling back into my shitshow of a childhood? What the fuck are you smoking?

This ain't about me.

If you're going to deny that American Society in general is absolute shit compared to where it was 40 years ago, this conversation is finished before it began, and I see no reason to continue it.

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Not your individual childhood SIX.

Yanno how you keep saying "the world you lived in no longer exists"?

Well, the world you lived in no longer exists. That justifies your anger, you say.

But it's not that, or not JUST that. People generally don't get all that emotional about "the state of the world" unless it affects them directly. Something in your current situation has triggered a long-running emotional outburst. Whatever it is, Trump acting out your frustration by rampaging thru Venezuela DEFINITELY isn't gonna fix it for you.

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Crawling back into my shitshow of a childhood? What the fuck are you smoking?
This ain't about me.

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SIX:
If you're going to deny that American Society in general is absolute shit compared to where it was 40 years ago, this conversation is finished before it began, and I see no reason to continue it.

SIGNY:
Not your individual childhood SIX.
Yanno how you keep saying "the world you lived in no longer exists"?
Well, the world you lived in no longer exists. That justifies your anger, you say.
But it's not that, or not JUST that. People generally don't get all that emotional about "the state of the world" unless it affects them directly. Something in your current situation has triggered a long-running emotional outburst. Whatever it is, Trump acting out your frustration by rampaging thru Venezuela DEFINITELY isn't gonna fix it for you.



SIX:
The world that I lived in no longer exists because those evil Democratic Party fuckers killed it. And they made idiots like you feel guilty if you didn't smile and go along with all of it.
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And I will repeat for the final time.
I don't give a shit about Venezuela. I don't give a shit about Ukraine. I don't give a shit about Russia. I don't give a shit about Israel. I don't give a shit about Gaza and the Palestinians.
Kick them all out of our borders, and fix what you broke here, motherfuckers.

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