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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't listen to the whole thing thru. It seemed a bunch of hair splitting. Also, he accepted that Iran is a "threat" to us: IT IS NOT. And anyone who believes that doesn't remember Saddam's fictitious "WMD".

Here's the thing, SIX:

EVERY USA intelligence agency including Trump's own assesses that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.

And even if they did (which, to repeat, they don't) they don't have the means to deliver it to the USA. Yes, Iran has ballistic missiles, but they aren't intercontinental.

Trump is just like GWB: He's either lying, or really, really stupid.

This war with Iran has NOTHING to do with any threat to us. It's all about Israel's wanting to regime change Iran, and ONLY about Israel. You want to know how I know? This is a DECAPITATION STRIKE.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I didn't listen to the whole thing thru. It seemed a bunch of hair splitting. Also, he accepted that Iran is a "threat" to us: IT IS NOT. And anyone who believes that doesn't remember Saddam's fictitious "WMD".

Here's the thing, SIX:
EVERY USA intelligence agency including Trump's own assesses that Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
And even if they did (which, to repeat, they don't) they don't have the means to deliver it to the USA. Yes, Iran has ballistic missiles, but they aren't intercontinental.
Trump is just like GWB: He's either lying, or really, really stupid.
This war with Iran has NOTHING to do with any threat to us. It's all about Israel's wanting to regime change Iran, and ONLY about Israel. You want to know how I know? This is a DECAPITATION STRIKE.

SIX: You have to understand where I stand on this issue, Sigs.

I don't believe ANYTHING that anybody has to say about it. We've been lied to for so long by so many people from any "side" that I have no reason to. I know you trust Tyler Durden

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but I don't.

The one person I do trust right now because of all the great things he's done that everybody else before him said could never be done IS Trump. I don't know exactly what his long-term plans are, but so far everything he has been doing has been bringing results. Both short-term and long-term.

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Mostly incidentally, did you see Trump kind of shit on his son-in-law the other day with him right in the room with his daughter where he was telling people that Tom Brady was interested in her and she snubbed him when Trump passed on his digits to her? Sure... it might all be for show, but I thought it was pretty funny that he'd cuck that little bitch in front of his daughter and the world by saying that Tom Brady is the guy he wanted is daughter to marry.

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Fuck Israel. I don't believe that this is about Israel. Maybe it is about oil.

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But I do believe that whatever Trump is planning will be extremely quick and very decisive. I believe him when he says that he has no desire and he won't get us into any forever wars.

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Maybe I'm wrong. We'll see how this plays out, but I think whatever he's up to right now will be old news by Friday at the latest, and if he didn't think that were the case himself we wouldn't have been dropping bombs on Iran this morning.

I certainly ain't going to spend any time worrying about WWIII right now. I've got more individual things to concern myself with right now than whatever bullshit clickbait anybody is out there pushing to get their ad revenue.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bottom line Sigs, is that I'm saying "I Don't Know".

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Be Evil. Be a dick.

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Donald Trump’s approach to Iran, often encapsulated by the sentiment of "getting tough" has historically centered on stopping their nuclear ambitions through intense pressure and strict, sometimes military, ultimatums. Key rhetoric includes demands to end nuclear programs "by any and all means" and warnings of severe consequences.

Key quotes and themes regarding Iran, based on searches and historical context:

- On Nuclear Ambitions (2011): In his book Time to Get Tough, Trump stated"America's primary goal with Iran must be to destroy its nuclear ambitions. Let me put them as plainly as I know how: Iran's nuclear program must be stopped by any and all means necessary. Period".

- On Threats to the U.S. (2018): In an all-caps tweet to Iranian President Rouhani, Trump warned: "NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE".

- On the Regime (2018): He frequently accused the regime of being the "world's leading state sponsor of terrorism".

- On Negotiations (2015/2016): Described the JCPOA nuclear deal as "terrible" and advocated for dismantling it, arguing it was negotiated "from desperation".

- On Deterrence (2025): Early in his second term, reports indicated he renewed warnings that failure to negotiate on nuclear issues could expose Iran to "serious military consequences".

Throughout his political career, Trump has maintained that a nuclear-armed Iran is an unacceptable threat, reinforcing a "peace through strength" policy.

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