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Donald Trump Won the Iran War

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Friday, August 7, 2026 4:00 PM

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The maximalists wanted regime change, the minimalists wanted nothing, and the doubters see only waffling. Carafano’s answer: the victor gets to define victory — and everywhere you look, the region is moving Trump’s way.

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2026/08/donald-trump-won-the-iran-war/#goo
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Iran War Turns into Trump Middle East Triumph: We are about to see the biggest reshaping of the Middle East since Moses led the Jews out of Egypt.

Like the pharaoh, who missed every warning sign up to the parting of the Red Sea, the critics and questioners of Trump’s tug-of-war with what’s left of the Iran regime seem obtuse to the prophetic truth that the region will never be the same again—in a good way.

Winning is the Only Thing

Condemnation of the Trumpian way of war comes from corners that have a vested interest in seeing Trump’s triumph as a loss.

Maximalists. They would only be happy if Trump fought the war they wanted, arguing that nothing less than overthrowing the regime would do. Anything else is a defeat and a humiliation. That’s a perversion of the president’s more limited goals to eliminate the regime’s capacity to bully and destabilize the region—objectives largely accomplished.

Minimalists. They would only be satisfied if America did nothing, contending, “Trump has dragged the United States into a needless war with Iran—and one with no clear end,” ignoring that the regime building a nuclear arsenal; constantly threatening its neighbors; plotting the assassination of U.S. officials; and engineering the horrific October 7 attacks on Israel were clear and present dangers, and that Trump demolished these threats in a way that no other American president ever came close to even denting.

Procrastinators. They are impatient and confused by what they see as Trump’s waffling, vacillating between negotiating and punishing the regime, overlooking the deep conviction behind his strategy, a sincere humanitarian streak which abhors needless loss of life—ours and theirs. Since he has largely accomplished our war aims, Trump can take a more measured approach to get to the end-state he wants without unnecessary loss of life and needless destruction. Instead, he is “de-risking—every time the Iranians fail to meet their obligations or retaliate, he takes more capabilities and assets of Iran off the table.” Rest assured, worriers, that while the war may only be over when the enemy quits—the truth is that the enemy has already lost, and now the only prospect they face is that the more they fight, the more they lose.

Obstructionists. They are what’s left leading Iran, insisting that as long as they are still standing and resisting, they win, conveniently passing over the point that Trump has humbled and humiliated the regime, virtually decimating their armed forces and crippling Iran’s economy.

All the above opinions can largely be discounted. Not only are they wrong, but none have the power or capacity to deter Trump from his course. Nor should he take the counsel of their fears.

There is zero evidence to doubt Trump’s resolve—and plenty of facts to argue he should steel his determination and follow through.
Theory of Victory

The victor gets to define victory.

Every war leader, in every war, has their detractors. Commanders-in-chief need a better metric to judge their efforts than taking the counsel of discontented doubters.

A good fight has a “theory of victory,” a logical, feasible, suitable, and acceptable means to justify calling a win in war. That guidepost is the best measure of success.

For Trump, a win is to squash Iran’s capacity to destabilize the region, creating space for regional collective security, reconstruction, and economic resilience, providing a long-term deterrent against a resurgent regime. From the Abraham Accords to the work of the Board of Peace, and major economic initiatives like IMEC and Tripp, the expectation is that the real measure of Iranian defeat is if these initiatives flourish. That’s the theory of victory.

The real test of “is Trump winning” is if there are signs that the long-term peace structure the president is seeking to replace the overshadowing threat of Iran is emerging. Everywhere you look in the region—the answer is yes.

Energy Resilience. Only a year ago, the Iranian regime could threaten to shut down up to a third or more of the world’s oil exports. Even today, while fighting in the Strait of Hormuz still lingers, that is no longer true. Regional exports are rebounding, by some estimates up to two-thirds of pre-war levels. The UAE, for example, is already exporting at 85% of pre-war levels.

Nor is oil rocketing toward $ 200 a barrel like the IRGC hoped. In fact, prices are bobbing below wartime highs. Part of this is because the region is rapidly developing redundant and resilient means to move product through new cooperative initiatives, including potentially a Saudi-Israeli pipeline. The prospects that Iran can hold the flow of the world’s energy hostage are now nil.

Reconstruction. Recently, the Board of Peace announced, over the objections of Iran, an unprecedented agreement to disarm Hamas, a precursor to the reconstruction of Gaza. The board also announced a pilot reconstruction project in Gaza to begin in November. Further, the U.S. is leading a trilateral framework with Israel and Lebanon and aggressively working to normalize relations with Syria.

These efforts will further help jump-start regional reconstruction projects. All these initiatives reflect a real movement to replace lands overlorded by Iranian surrogates with regions blessed with security, stability, economic growth, and good governance.

Economic integration. The U.S. and Iraq recently announced over $60 billion in future economic deals. Washington also trumpeted an additional multi-million dollar investment in TRIPP in Armenia.

Further, the Iran War has helped even more urgently make the case for the importance of IMEC. On every flank, Iran is seeing their neighbors more tightly integrating with each other and partnering with the U.S. and other global good guys from Europe to India, Japan, and South Korea.

Security Cooperation. The U.S. and Saudi Arabia recently took action against Iran-backed militias in Iraq. Saudi Arabia just announced the establishment of a multinational coalition to provide maritime security in the Red Sea. Israeli recently expanded defense cooperation with the UAE.

All these initiatives point to the growing willingness of regional powers to expand collective security and build a conventional deterrence framework against the current Iranian regime.
Trump Won the Iran War

So, here is the reality check—the inconvenient truth the doubters don’t want to talk about.

If Trump were losing his war, none of these initiatives would be happening. Instead, what is being witnessed is increased American influence, increased partnerships, and more momentum for the framework Trump envisions to bring long-term peace and stability to the region. These are not signs of defeat, but regional transformation on an unprecedented scale.

The spin doctors can spin whatever the damn well please, but the historians are going to write that Trump is the most consequential force in reshaping the Middle East in modern memory.

In the long run, that is only going to make the task of making and keeping America great again easier, partnering with a part of the world that will bring more benefits to us than problems to solve.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 6:19 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


President Donald Trump has largely failed to achieve his core stated objectives in the conflict with Iran, including bringing about regime change, permanently dismantling Iran's military and missile capabilities, and securing safe, uninhibited commercial passage through the vital Strait of Hormuz.

Unmet Strategic Goals

• Regime Change: The ruling government in Tehran remains completely intact, with the security apparatus and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) staying firmly loyal.

• Military and Missile Destruction: Despite heavy U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran has retained substantial portions of its missile and drone arsenals and continues regional operations.

• Strait of Hormuz Control: The administration failed to secure immediate, unhindered maritime traffic, leading to an ongoing economic crisis over shipping lanes and regional energy transport.

• Total Nuclear Elimination: While enrichment infrastructure suffered severe setbacks, analysts note that the underlying scientific knowledge and capability to rebuild remain viable.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 7, 2026 6:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

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Friday, August 7, 2026 7:01 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

Many within the administration as well as outside analysts agree that The Only Way To Decisively Defeat Iran would be through a major operation involving ground troops, a commitment that would cost thousands of American lives. The Pentagon considers all scenarios, so those plans exist, but as of now no one in the administration is arguing for such drastic action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 7, 2026 7:48 PM

THG

Is also JJ. Keep it real please, and use a VPN


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Originally posted by second:
President Donald Trump has largely failed to achieve his core stated objectives in the conflict with Iran, including bringing about regime change, permanently dismantling Iran's military and missile capabilities, and securing safe, uninhibited commercial passage through the vital Strait of Hormuz.

Unmet Strategic Goals

• Regime Change: The ruling government in Tehran remains completely intact, with the security apparatus and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) staying firmly loyal.

• Military and Missile Destruction: Despite heavy U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran has retained substantial portions of its missile and drone arsenals and continues regional operations.

• Strait of Hormuz Control: The administration failed to secure immediate, unhindered maritime traffic, leading to an ongoing economic crisis over shipping lanes and regional energy transport.

• Total Nuclear Elimination: While enrichment infrastructure suffered severe setbacks, analysts note that the underlying scientific knowledge and capability to rebuild remain viable.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





Agreed...

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Friday, August 7, 2026 9:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are a very stupid person.

Where did you steal that?

Many within the administration as well as outside analysts agree that The Only Way To Decisively Defeat Iran would be through a major operation involving ground troops, a commitment that would cost thousands of American lives. The Pentagon considers all scenarios, so those plans exist, but as of now no one in the administration is arguing for such drastic action.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Apparently, you still haven't read the article.

Shut the fuck up until you do, stupid.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by THG:Agreed...




Nobody gives a shit about your input, retard. Least of all Shit Golem who ignores 99% of your posts because he is embarrassed every day that you're the only person left here that agrees with him on anything.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 9:38 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance. Tehran Is the One Running Out of Time

Economic strangulation threatens something much harder to survive: the regime's ability to pay the soldiers and police who keep it in power.

https://amgreatness.com/2026/08/07/trump-gives-iran-one-last-chance-te
hran-is-the-one-running-out-of-time
/



Democrats wouldn't get that because they're Communists and think that money is free.

You want to see what happens when you run out of cash to pay your "loyal" soldiers?



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Saturday, August 8, 2026 12:15 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


a Delusional Cult?

so dumb it makes Lefty media like CNN relevant again?

Ex-Trump Appointee Compares Leaving MAGA ‘Cult’ To ‘Coming Out Of An Abusive Relationship’
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/carrie-prejean-boller-maga-cult_n_6a74d
b65e4b0e33593d258bb/amp


Epstein survivors work to find one GOP senator who will flip vote and derail Todd Blanche’s nomination
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/08/07/us/video/epstein-survivors-work-to-
derail-todd-blanche-nomination-lead-jake-tapper


Trump silent as severe water crisis hits tens of thousands of Americans
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ens-of-thousands-of-americans-12294434


Israel Vetoes Trump in the Middle East—Again
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/israel-vetoes-trump-in-the-mid
dle-east-again
/

Rep. Thomas Massie Says Americans Will 'Quit Watching Fox News' When 'Reality' Hits Their Wallets
https://radaronline.com/p/thomas-massie-americans-will-quit-watching-f
ox-news-gas-prices
/

How Iran's Missile Capabilities Surprised the US
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=DJ6muePuQko

June 2025
https://thelibertydaily.com/trump-urges-iran-pursue-peace-warns-future
-strikes
/

The Netanyahu Plan to Control America
https://ronpaulforums.com/threads/the-netanyahu-plan-to-control-americ
a.572592
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the cult gets worse? Maga Trump refute psychological expertise...Emperor has no clothes...but living in reality and they don’t want to quit the delusion




Boomer politics
and their wisdom for the future?


Stan Twitter: Old people lined up at the slot machines



he loves the Christ Killers?
Christian boomer explains why he loves the Jews and Israel



the real numbers

Billions and Billions for Wars while the national debt is projected to reach approximately $39.7 trillion

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance.



I thought Orange Moron won?

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 1:09 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
a Delusional Cult

so dumb it makes Lefty media like CNN relevant again?



Wow... Let's see...

An article by terminally brainrotted Huffington Post.

An article by CNN themselves?

An article by Newsweek about something I've never even heard about until just 5 seconds ago, and probably won't ever hear about again.

And a site called radaronline that I've never heard of before.

Did you go on/off your meds? Have you recently fallen down and hit your head?

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Trump Gives Iran One Last Chance.



I thought Orange Moron won?



Yeah. He did.

He did a long time ago.

They don't have any real leadership. They're out of money. They're fighting each other and people are going rouge and doing roguish things that roguish people do when there is nobody in charge of the rogues.

I already told you. The only way this ends immediately and forever is if we drop nukes on them.

I'm game. Let's fucking do it.


In the meantime they're going to start killing each other soon.

It's hardly even a war. It hardly ever was.

Everybody is a big dumb fucking crybaby in 2026.



Keep talking stupid shit and forgetting about everything we've gained up to this point too.

Are you trying to give Kamala Harris a chance in 2028? Is that what you want, Mr. Black Pill? Wide open borders again?

Shut the fuck up, you stupid cunt.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 5:19 AM

JAYNEZTOWN



Video rewind: Bush's 'Mission Accomplished'





yeah you can do that Fox retard slogans vs CNN retard slogans

but truths can be found

North Korea and Russia are giving them technology, those Chechens guns-for-hire paid by both Russia and Ukraine as mercs on the battlefields have delivered drone tech and information to Iran



and so you really believe a smoking toilet or the USS Gerald R. Ford's Laundry Fire put an entire Carrier ship out of action?


...maybe just maybe that smoking toilet story is true

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 5:59 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I was going to post this in the other thread, which has become the Dung Heap of Sh!t Golem's gibberish.

But this thread is better, so far, and more relevant and current.


https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-iran-caspian-strike-12246674

"Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose country has been locked in a war that Russia launched in February 2022, defended the operation, stating that Kyiv had successfully targeted vessels involved in military cargo shipments linked to Iran, alongside a Russian warship."

and
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"The maritime attack unfolded against a backdrop of escalating mutual accusations. Zelensky alleged Saturday that Russia has provided Iran with satellite imagery to assist in planning and assessing Middle East attacks, including surveillance of Gulf states and U.S. military facilities.

"There is a clear correlation between Russia’s satellite imagery of these sites and Iranian strikes," Zelensky said in his evening address, adding that Russian satellites observed airbases in Bahrain, Jordan, and Kuwait between July 19 and July 20.

"The purpose is clear," Zelensky added.

While Kyiv has long accused Tehran of supplying drones and military hardware to support Russia's invasion, Iran has consistently denied direct participation in the conflict. Sunday's strike on cargo vessels underscores how deeply intertwined the adversarial relationships have become."



For several weeks now, reports have shown that Russia is providing satellite targeting data to Iran for it's attacks against U.S. forces.



www.smartnews.com/en-us/article/4971085255554370475

www.msn.com/en-us/money/general/ukraine-has-just-found-russia-s-greate
st-achilles-heeland-plans-a-strategy-of-pain-by-a-thousand-cuts-putin-can-t-stop/ar-AA28wOGh?cvid=6a632017992a40279b11c6e75affa0ca&ei+118


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But another consequence has been political. Ukraine has increasingly argued that the shadow fleet should be viewed as part of Russia’s military logistics rather than ordinary civilian commerce.

That legal argument might be debatable, but it has influenced discussion in Europe about whether these vessels deserve the same protections afforded to commercial shipping during wartime.



EU idiots are finally realizing that Russia's Shadow Fleet of tankers are actually military targets.



Decades ago, a Soviet defector explained: You Americans don't understand. America is a country with a large military. Russia is a military with a large country.

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 6:55 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


AI And War Is Being Oversold Right Now

The US and Ukrainian Bombing Campaigns Show How Far It Has To Go

Phillips P. OBrien
Aug 08, 2026

https://phillipspobrien.substack.com/p/ai-and-war-is-being-oversold-ri
ght


I felt the need to write this piece because of the extraordinary strategic failure of the USA in its war against Iran. I gave an interview about this to NPR’s All Things Considered, yesterday on precisely this topic. You can listen to it here.
https://www.npr.org/2026/08/07/nx-s1-5922716/what-the-dwindling-u-s-mi
ssile-stock-means-for-the-future



In the interview, I said I did not think people quite understood the gravity of what we had seen in Trump’s War with Iran. The USA, reportedly a superpower and the technologically dominant force of its day, had lost the war in record time, had exhausted supplies of vital munitions that it could not replace for many years, and was now haggling over the terms of its own defeat.

Though I did not have time to go into it then, it also made the early Pentagon boasts about how the US was fighting amongst the most ill-considered statements in history. We heard for months about how the US was imposing itself, obliterating Iranian military power, crushing Iran’s industrial base, etc,.

All of it was nonsense. I thought, therefore, it would be good to visit one area where such boasts were being made just a little while ago, both about the US bombing of Iran and also the Ukrainian attacks on Russia. A while back we were hearing about how AI was being decisive for both—when actually it was not. AI, or Autonomous systems, is I would argue absolutely the future of war, but it will require investment, planning and sober heads. For now, beware the extreme boasts.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 7:06 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Four Goals that Trump failed to achieve in Iran. A sports analogy for 6ixStringJoker: since Trump did not score any goals, he cannot truthfully claim he won the war game with Iran. But Trumptards can't read the scoreboard, allowing Trump to claim victory when he has been defeated.

President Donald Trump has largely failed to achieve his core stated objectives in the conflict with Iran, including bringing about regime change, permanently dismantling Iran's military and missile capabilities, and securing safe, uninhibited commercial passage through the vital Strait of Hormuz.

Unmet Strategic Goals

• Regime Change: The ruling government in Tehran remains completely intact, with the security apparatus and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) staying firmly loyal.

• Military and Missile Destruction: Despite heavy U.S. and Israeli airstrikes, Iran has retained substantial portions of its missile and drone arsenals and continues regional operations.

• Strait of Hormuz Control: The administration failed to secure immediate, unhindered maritime traffic, leading to an ongoing economic crisis over shipping lanes and regional energy transport.

• Total Nuclear Elimination: While enrichment infrastructure suffered severe setbacks, analysts note that the underlying scientific knowledge and capability to rebuild remain viable.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 2:29 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Chairman of the Joint Chiefs Gen. Dan Caine made clear that the US needs to find an off-ramp from the war with Iran because the military options on the table to escalate the conflict could backfire, and airpower alone is unlikely to achieve Trump’s stated objectives.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/07/politics/general-dan-caine-off-ramp-ira
n-war


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Saturday, August 8, 2026 2:35 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a collection of AI images but worth a look

the story of 'Drones' from Iran

"How Iran Became a Drone Superpower – The Shocking Rise No One Expected!"


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Saturday, August 8, 2026 9:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Keep crying, faggots.

Hey, JSF... you should post here more often.

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Sunday, August 9, 2026 2:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Whoops. Looks like I triggered another Dung Heap.


Yeah, I try, but the site seems to be not working a lot lately.

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