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Our nation this week reached an infamous milestone: 100 known – and goodness only knows how many unknown – cases of people being sentenced to death, since the reinstatement of capital punishment, for crimes they did not commit.

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ST. LOUIS - Citing grave concerns that Missouri executed an innocent man, a coalition that includes a congressman, high-profile lawyers and even the victim’s family pointed to evidence Tuesday that they said could clear Larry Griffin’s name.

Prosecutors have decided to reopen the case of Griffin, who was convicted in 1981 in the murder of Quintin Moss, a 19-year-old drug dealer who was shot to death. Griffin maintained his innocence to the end, but was put to death in 1995.

Now, many people, including some members of Moss’ family, believe him.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Chris, hey, you should do a quick check of a person's posting record before you go off on 'em. InevitableB, is a post-bush supporter. He faught in Bush's war and came home very disillusioned. His story is pretty gritty and heartbreaking. I think coming to the board is painful to him on a personal level. Chris, check before you judge, amigo.

IB, I'm always glad to hear from you, no matter what the reason.

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And after all the justice system is so infallible no innocent will be put to death while the guilty go free.
After all, no one can change

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True people change. I am sure the man who rapes then kills a child feels very sorry and repentent when caught.Want to put a young family memeber where this sort can get at him? I know I do not.

Yes a man changes and not always for the better.

TANSTAAFL

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Oh I really am sick and tired of hearing that BS argument. Well not wanting to execute people like some medieval despot means I must want my familly raped and murdered yeah yeah yeah cause that logically follows.
And the fact that some people change for the worse means you should execute everyone does it?

Q: What do you have when you are holding two little green balls in your hand.
A: Kermit's undivided attention.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm angry too. They should have had pallets of MREs and medical equipment and water-purifying equipment (not bottled water that costs a fortune but water purifying equipment that the military USED to use before KB&R got in the act) ready to go, staged in Texas.

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The problem with setting up centralized water purification stations is getting the water out to the people who need it.

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The problem with setting up centralized water purification stations is getting the water out to the people who need it.

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Geezer- you have to centralize distribution anyway- tents, medicine, food, toilets... It's not generally a case of delivering water to the doorstep (except where you are literally dropping food and water on rooftops). Do you have any other criticisms of my observations?

BTW- I didn't want this to get lost in the other thread. It appears that FEMA was supposed to be in charge as of Sept 27th. But they didn't deliver to coordination, causing local agencies to delay their own efforts. Not only that, I've read several reports from various sources where FEMA shut down independent aide from the Red Cross, Walmart, the Coast Guard, Jefferson Parish police etc. And at least one of Blanco's requests for National Guard assistance from another state was held up in Washington from Aug 27th or 28th to Sept 3. Also, I was looking at who has authority to do what- clearly, the Federal government wins ahnds down because not only did it have authority (through FEMA) to coordinate aid, it also has authority to essentially commandeer civilian airplanes and trains, and to call on the military. Nagin had control of the city buses and bus drivers. I suppose he MIGHT have taken control of school buses, but wouldn't be able to compel school bus drivers because (if NO is like LA) the city does not control the school system. As far as doing house to house- that would be up to the city police, and I suppose the National Guard if there were enough to go around. Blanco did everything I thought she could and should do- re-route the roads, request Fedeal assistance, activate the LA National Guard and request assistance from other state Nationl Guards. It looks to me like Nagin and Blanco were kind of trapped by FEMA. People are still dying but ....

Please don't think they give a shit.

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Originally posted by rue:
And that's why they used water-tankers in Iraq - because it was so inefficient and costly.

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Whew! All in all, I have to say I am impressed with the level of intelligence on this site....not bad, folks....I enjoy witnessing vigorous discussion from folks that actually read and go beyond the media sound bites!!! You're my kind of people....

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So go ahead, now tell me why they had to deliver bottled water to centers.

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Gino,
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Even in "safe areas" like Houston?

No, I meant in the original disaster areas. Apparently the HOuston and other outside areas are very well run.

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CITIZEN,

Thank you for your kind words.

In this situation, I can't understand why anyone can't see the obvious problems. Of course, the folks who are suffering in N.O. are "politically insignificant" to today's politicians.

I agree with others' observations that only a revolution will change things, but I would be surprised if that happens.

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