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Cheney goes on a rampage!!
Friday, February 17, 2006 4:19 PM
RUXTON
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Just wanted to clear up a few things. Flame on.
Friday, February 17, 2006 4:44 PM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Friday, February 17, 2006 5:13 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:who cares if it was an accident , thats [sic] not the issue the issue is , he didn't report what he had done to the proper authorities, and he's covering up the fact that he was drunk.
Quote:and btw, your [sic] gross and pretty disgusting defending Cheney's actions , like I told another person I understand Cheney trying to cover his own arse but whats[sic] in it for you?
Quote:And you know as well as I that nothing is going to happen to Cheney, at the most in a few months Cheney may claim to have another heart attack( real or not) and step down (and I doubt seriously if that even happens) but Cheney and most of the Bush administration feels so very contemptous of us little folk, because thats [sic] how they think of us, as mindless children who are in need of their guidence [sic].
Quote:Cheney I'm sure is pissed that he even had to go on Fox news and try to explain his actions ( to us American idiots) because thats what they think of us little people, who he feels so far above that he shouldn't have to explain anything to us at anytime for any reason)
Quote:so why the hell are you and the rest of these fools of like mind sitting up trying to justify or excuse his actions. its [sic] pretty darn sad and patheic[sic]
Friday, February 17, 2006 5:31 PM
Friday, February 17, 2006 5:38 PM
DREAMTROVE
Friday, February 17, 2006 5:44 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:Kwicko wrote: Good for you. Glad you made money selling Hondas. As far as how "American" they are... well, pretty much as American as most of the "American" cars that most people tend to cite as being what an "American car" should be. As for the NWO not allowing Detroit to build double-wishbone suspensions on cars costing less than $50,000, that's just pure crap, plain and simple. Detroit can put any suspension on their cars that they want to; they just tend to not want to.
Quote:"In your lifetime most existing roads will have tolls." —Texas Transportation Commissioner Ric Williamson, October 11, 2004
Quote:kwicko wrote: I hope and pray that the New World Order gets here, and soon.
Quote:quicko wrote: Will he step down? Not bloody likely. If he did, who'd run the country? :) I've got a scenario in my head of what would happen if Cheney died in office: Secret Service Agent (to Bushie): Mister President, the Vice President is dead. Bushie: Does that mean I'm President?
Friday, February 17, 2006 5:50 PM
Friday, February 17, 2006 6:48 PM
GELASSENHEIT
Friday, February 17, 2006 6:53 PM
TK421
Quote:Originally posted by Gelassenheit: what is the NRA saying about Cheney, his gun and the few drinks he had? Gelassenheit means Serenity
Quote:Never use alcohol or over-the-counter, prescription or other drugs before or while shooting. Alcohol, as well as any other substance likely to impair normal mental or physical bodily functions, must not be used before or while handling or shooting guns.
Friday, February 17, 2006 7:40 PM
Friday, February 17, 2006 8:09 PM
Quote:"it's high time"
Friday, February 17, 2006 9:41 PM
PIRATEJENNY
Quote:Who cares? I thought you did. It was YOU who asked the question, "How do you shoot someone in the face and its [sic] and [sic] accident?" I was merely trying to explain how it can (and does) happen. ]...
Quote:What's in it for me? Nothing. Nothing at all. I'm not trying to "cover his arse"; merely pointing out that in this country, we're at least supposed to be given the ILLUSION of a fair trial before summary execution. You've already tried and convicted the man AND the office he holds, and now you're ready to lead the lynch mob.
Quote:Why on Earth should I defend Cheney? I despise nearly everything he is and stands for. I renounce him and all of his works
Quote:Well, not being psychic and all, I don't "know" any of that as a fact. Certainly not as well as you claim to "know" it
Quote:I'm not trying to "justify or excuse" his actions. I'm TRYING to explain what I think may have happened, and how it may have transpired.
Quote:I hope and pray that the New World Order gets here, and soon. Hopefully they'll have better schools and mental health facilities, since our current ones seem to have failed you so miserably.
Friday, February 17, 2006 9:55 PM
Quote:To follow up on "Freak Boy" from the Whittington video: commenters: "Perhaps he is there to "catapult the propaganda!" "that freak is just an evil "worker bee" with a head full of chlobenzorex " "That SS-bot over Whit's shoulder is F*n scarin' me. And when Harry says 'Friday' (2:50) the stormtroopers eyes dart over to the other handler! FREEPY." "Either he is the victim of anamorphic distortion, or he is an alien" So who is this guy? COMMENTS: www.crooksandliars.com
Friday, February 17, 2006 10:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: SHOOTING VICTIM APOLOGIZES FOR CATCHING BULLETS Looks like the police report has some 'splainin' to do... Like why are there bullet holes on TWO sides of his body? Nice touch by CNN to ignore the bullet holes. www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html WHO IS FREAK BOY? And why is his head distorted and twice as big when he is standing BEHIND Whittington? FREAK BOY VIDEO: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/cnn_pl_wittington_hospital_statement_060217a.wmv http://movies.crooksandliars.com/cnn_pl_wittingto.mov Quote:To follow up on "Freak Boy" from the Whittington video: commenters: "Perhaps he is there to "catapult the propaganda!" "that freak is just an evil "worker bee" with a head full of chlobenzorex " "That SS-bot over Whit's shoulder is F*n scarin' me. And when Harry says 'Friday' (2:50) the stormtroopers eyes dart over to the other handler! FREEPY." "Either he is the victim of anamorphic distortion, or he is an alien" So who is this guy? COMMENTS: www.crooksandliars.com Dick Cheney's 2 DUI CONVICTIONS court files: http://thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html "Dick" Cheney: "I had a beer at lunch. I had a beer at lunch. I had a beer at lunch. I fired, and there's Harry falling. He was laying there on his back, obviously bleeding. You could see where the shot had struck him. He didn't respond. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend." TRANSCRIPT OF CHENEY'S CONFESSION: http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/131 VIDEO DOWNLOAD: CHENEY CONFESSING TO ALCOHOL BEFORE AND AFTER SHOOTING! http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Brit-Hume-Cheney-SHooting.wmv http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8559.php Why wait 14 hours before talking to police then visiting a hospital? Three words: Dialysis and Retrograde Extrapolation. dialysis. any of various procedures, usually performed on a regular basis on patients who have impaired kidney function, in which chemical dialysis is used to remove toxic waste, chemicals, etc. from the blood -Webster's New World Dictionary Note that with a full belly, Cheney's blood-alcohol level would peak near the time of the shooting... www.piratenews.org/drunkairlinepilots.html Example of hemodialysis in action to coverup a senator's DUI homicide, or, how to kill a motorist by hit-and-run then get a highway named for you: www.geocities.com/american_motorcycle_association/koella.html "By tomorrow it will be 'Dick Cheney blew his head off at the dinner table'. Makes you think Cheney shot this guy on purpose." -Bill Maher, MSNBC Hardball http://movies.crooksandliars.com/msnbc_hb_maher_on_cheney_060214a.wmv http://movies.crooksandliars.com/msnbc_hb_maher_on_cheney_060214a.mov http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8559.php MSNBC VIDEO DOWNLOAD: CHENEY BLOWS LAWYER'S HEAD CLEAN OFF http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8519.php www.cafepress.com/fdlcheney "If someone ever tries to kill you - you kill 'em right back!" -Mal FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO: http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/01/8310.php (WWMD?)
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:44 AM
Quote:When Seeing and Hearing Isn't Believing By William M. Arkin Washington Post Feb. 1, 1999 "Gentlemen! We have called you together to inform you that we are going to overthrow the United States government." So begins a statement being delivered by Gen. Carl W. Steiner, former Commander-in-chief, U.S. Special Operations Command. At least the voice sounds amazingly like him. But it is not Steiner. It is the result of voice "morphing" technology developed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico. By taking just a 10-minute digital recording of Steiner's voice, scientist George Papcun is able, in near real time, to clone speech patterns and develop an accurate facsimile. Steiner was so impressed, he asked for a copy of the tape. Steiner was hardly the first or last victim to be spoofed by Papcun's team members. To refine their method, they took various high quality recordings of generals and experimented with creating fake statements. One of the most memorable is Colin Powell stating "I am being treated well by my captors." Most Americans were introduced to the tricks of the digital age in the movie Forrest Gump, when the character played by Tom Hanks appeared to shake hands with President Kennedy. For Hollywood, it is special effects. For covert operators in the U.S. military and intelligence agencies, it is a weapon of the future. "Once you can take any kind of information and reduce it into ones and zeros, you can do some pretty interesting things," says Daniel T. Kuehl, chairman of the Information Operations department of the National Defense University in Washington, the military's school for information warfare. PSYOPS seeks to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations. Digital morphing — voice, video, and photo — has come of age, available for use in psychological operations. PSYOPS, as the military calls it, seek to exploit human vulnerabilities in enemy governments, militaries and populations to pursue national and battlefield objectives. Allah on the Holodeck Pentagon planners started to discuss digital morphing after Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1990. Covert operators kicked around the idea of creating a computer-faked videotape of Saddam Hussein crying or showing other such manly weaknesses, or in some sexually compromising situation (as done FOR REAL at Abu Ghraib). The nascent plan was for the tapes to be flooded into Iraq and the Arab world. What if the U.S. projected a holographic image of Allah floating over Baghdad? www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/dotmil/arkin020199.htm
Quote:"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations." -USAma Bin Laden, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ "I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other human beings as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people." -Usama Bin Laden, Ummat magazine, September 28, 2001
Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:12 PM
Quote:Kay Griggs testified that virtually ALL Special Forces soldiers are required to be sodomized in a ritual ceremony, at least in the Marine Corps, and same goes for Marine officers in Intelligence, once they reach high rank. If they are happily married and heterosexual, then they are required to be liquered up first, before gang-raped by their gay commanders.
Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:32 PM
Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:42 PM
Quote:piratejenny wrote: I think alot of the people in our government who come up with these torture plans have some serious sexual issues.
Quote:dreamtrove wrote: I just watched the ballistics test on a blog called onegoodmove.org. They said that Cheney was about 18 feet from Mr. Whittington at the time he pulled the trigger. This guy's a democrat, so nobody's perfect, but he likes Jon Stewart, so at least we have something in common. I think it will be interesting to if all of these liberal investigative blogs are as critical of Hillary when she becomes dictatorette.
Quote:§ 22.01. ASSAULT § 36.03. COERCION OF PUBLIC SERVANT OR VOTER § 36.04. IMPROPER INFLUENCE § 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS § 36.06. OBSTRUCTION OR RETALIATION § 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEE § 37.09. TAMPERING WITH OR FABRICATING PHYSICAL EVIDENCE § 37.10. TAMPERING WITH GOVERNMENTAL RECORD § 38.03. RESISTING ARREST, SEARCH, OR TRANSPORTATION § 38.04. EVADING ARREST OR DETENTION § 38.05. HINDERING APPREHENSION OR PROSECUTION § 38.15. INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES § 38.17. FAILURE TO STOP OR REPORT AGGRAVATED SEXUAL ASSAULT OF CHILD § 38.171. FAILURE TO REPORT FELONY § 38.18. USE OF ACCIDENT REPORT INFORMATION AND OTHER INFORMATION FOR PECUNIARY GAIN § 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS § 49.02. PUBLIC INTOXICATION § 49.031. POSSESSION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN MOTOR VEHICLE § 49.07. INTOXICATION ASSAULT § 12.43. PENALTIES FOR REPEAT AND HABITUAL MISDEMEANOR OFFENDERS § 12.46. USE OF PRIOR CONVICTIONS NOT COUNTING RICO ACT LITIGATION CURRENTLY PENDING AGAINST CHENEY FOR DOMESTIC TERRORISM, MASS MURDER AND TREASON, AND PRIOR RICO ACT LITIGATION VS CHENEY FOR NARCOTERORIST BOMBING DURING IRAN-CONTRA: http://SueTheTerrorists.net http://911ForTheTruth.com http://September911Surprise.com http://geocities.com/Iran_Contra_Christic_Institute
Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:56 AM
Quote:The "liberals" will go back to sleep with a DemoRat as figurehead, just like the "conservatives" are asleep with Bush. What's odd about so-called conservatives is they never attack Bill "Clinton"
Quote:bureRats
Quote:Bush has destroyed the GOP.
Quote:Bush's cousin Kerry was paid a $51-million bribe in "left-over campaign contributions" to take a dive, after Kerry won the election. So both parties are dead.
Quote:It will be interesting to see what Whittington does next. Will he sue Cheney, who has assets of at least $50-million?
Monday, February 20, 2006 11:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by dreamtrove: Quote:Bush's cousin Kerry was paid a $51-million bribe in "left-over campaign contributions" to take a dive, after Kerry won the election. So both parties are dead. I wondered about this. I don't know about 'cousin,' but certainly 'fraternity brother.' Kerry was very upset on the night he lost, I mean genuinely upset, and I mean privately, not publically, so it wasn't an act. He did want to win. But he threw it at the very least by not going at Bush with both guns blazing, and certainly he had no interest in contesting the election, he probably made a deal of some sort.
Quote:Freak boy looked to me like the result of a fish-eye lense. This may just be a result of where the report was, and what they had to do in order to get a shot of Whittington.
Quote:It will be interesting to see what Whittington does next. Will he sue Cheney, who has assets of at least $50-million? Whittington can do nothing of the sort. He still has a gun to his head. But I thought it was interesting that he thanked the media for doing their job, which was pretty much an assault on Cheney. I also thought Cheney tipped his hand when he said to Brit Hume, "I've known Harry for 30 years" and then "Not a close friend, more of an acquaintance." If you've known someone for thirty years, and you are trying to spin things possitively, and the best you can come up with is "acquaintance" then chances are you are barely on speaking terms with the guy. I think that Cheney will probably end up having to give Whittington a huge under the table settlement. It's very unlike these guys to sue each other openly.
Quote:"A black woman who claimed to have been raped by U.S. President George W. Bush and was planning to take him to court has died of a gun shot wound to the head. Margie Schoedinger, 38, was pronounced dead as a result of a 'gunshot wound to the head'. Schoedinger said she had filed the lawsuit on December 3, 2002 and although court documents filed on the following day mention Bush and offer him 20 days to respond or appear in Fort Bend, it is still unclear whether the President was ever served with the suit. Schoedinger was attempting to claim US$1 million in actual damages, plus US$49 million for punitive damages including emotional distress and loss of freedom." —Orantes Moore, New Nation, "WOMAN WHO SUED BUSH IS FOUND DEAD - BUSH ACCUSER'S APPARENT SUICIDE" 8th December 2003 www.thoughtcrimenews.com/bushrape.htm "It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information. It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests." —US Solicitor-General Ted Olson, Harbury vs. United States, US Supreme Court, 17 March 2002 (Olson's 3rd wife Barbara, an ex-federal prosecutor and CNN pundit, was allegedly murdered on the invisible American Airlines Flight 77 that didn't crash into the Pentagon). Mrs. Harbury argued her case pro se to the US Supreme Court regarding the US CIA torturing and murdering her husband in Central America during Bush Sr's Iran-Contra narcoterrorism trials and convictions (35 volume Kerry US Senate report in your local public law libraries, plus many lawsuits, including Christic Institute's RICO class action vs. Bush Sr. White House and Bush's cocaine business partner Pablo Escobar) http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/000/01%2D394.html
Tuesday, February 21, 2006 9:49 AM
Wednesday, February 22, 2006 9:55 AM
Quote:Secret Service says Cheney was DRUNK when he shot lawyer Written report by SS agents: "inebriated" VP consumed alcohol before, during and after hunting espedition. Doug Thompson, Capitol Hill Blue, February 22 2006. A written report from Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago says Cheney was "clearly inebriated" at the time of the shooting. Agents observed several members of the hunting party, including the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited "visible signs" of impairment, including slurred speech and erratic actions, the report said. According to those who have read the report and talked with others present at the outing, Cheney was drunk when he gunned down his friend and the day-and-a-half delay in allowing Texas law enforcement officials on the ranch where the shooting occurred gave all members of the hunting party time to sober up. We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day. "This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it." Cheney has a long history of alcohol abuse, including two convictions of driving under the influence when he was younger. Doctors tell me that someone like Cheney, who is taking blood thinners because of his history of heart attacks, could get legally drunk now after consuming just one drink. If Cheney was legally drunk at the time of the shooting, he could be guilty of a felony under Texas law and the shooting, ruled an accident by a compliant Kenedy County Sheriff, would be a prosecutable offense. But we will never know for sure because the owners of the Armstrong Ranch, where the shooting occurred, barred the sheriff's department from the property on the day of the shooting and Kenedy County Sheriff Ramon Salinas III agreed to wait until the next day to send deputies in to talk to those involved. Sheriff's Captain Charles Kirk says he went to the Armstrong Ranch immediately after the shooting was reported on Saturday, February 11 but both he and a game warden were not allowed on the 50,000-acre property. He called Salinas who told him to forget about it and return to the station. "I told him don't worry about it. I'll make a call," Salinas said. The sheriff claims he called another deputy who moonlights at the Armstrong ranch, said he was told it was "just an accident" and made the decision to wait until Sunday to investigate. "We've known these people for years. They are honest and wouldn't call us, telling us a lie," Salinas said. Like all elected officials in Kenedy County, Salinas owes his job to the backing and financial support of Katherine Armstrong, owner of the ranch and the county's largest employer. "The Armstrongs rule Kenedy County like a fiefdom," says a former employee. Secret Service officials also took possession of all tests on Whittington's blood at the hospitals where he was treated for his wounds. When asked if a blood alcohol test had been performed on Whittington, the doctors who treated him at Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial in Corpus Christi or the hospital in Kingsville refused to answer. One admits privately he was ordered by the Secret Service to "never discuss the case with the press." It's a sure bet that is a private doctor who treated the victim of Cheney's reckless and drunken actions can't talk to the public then the memo that shows the Vice President was drunk as a skunk will never see the light of day. www.capitolhillblue.com/blog/2006/02/secret_service_agents_say_chen.html See also: Dick Cheney's 2 DUI CONVICTIONS court files: www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html "There's a report out tonight that 24-years ago I was apprehended in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a DUI. That's an accurate story. I'm not proud of that. I oftentimes said that years ago I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much and I did on that night. I was pulled over. I admitted to the policeman that I had been drinking. I paid a fine. And I regret that it happened. But it did. I've learned my lesson." —Governor George Bush Jr., rebroadcast on CNN Larry King Live, November 2, 2000 http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0011/02/lkl.00.html Kennbunkport Maine Police Report of Bush Arrest Record: www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html
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