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Cheney has terrible accident.

POSTED BY: HERO
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 13:57
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Friday, February 17, 2006 9:34 AM

HERO


Now that authorities and everyone (who isn't a Bush-hater liberal or 'Crazy Talkin' Pirate) agrees that this was an accident, perhaps we can put the 'Cheney goes on Rampage' Thread away.

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"We all assume certain risks in whatever we do," Whittington said. "Whatever activities we pursue and regardless of how experienced, careful and dedicated we are, accidents do and will happen. And that's what happened last" (Saterday)

"My family and I are deeply sorry for all that Vice President Cheney and his family have had to go through this week," Whittington said.


That says it all. The victim, or his animatronic double (looks sadly at the Pirates) has spoken. Accident. Sad. Tragic even.

Yet perhaps I disagree. Perhaps Cheney did do the right thing? Suppose the man Cheney shot accidently had been a terrorist or even Osama Bin Ladden himself (aside from all the other questions like why was he on a Texas ranch...) Clearly if it had been a terrorist then, while still an accident, it would have been a positive rather then a negative act.

If this is so then the act of shooting a man accidently is not wrong in itself, its 'wrongness' is a measure of the person shot.
Thus shooting a friend and otherwise good man is bad yet forgivable, shooting a terrorist is good, if it had been a child it would have been unforgivable, if the person had been French it would have been ok...you get the idea.

So in conclusion what makes this accident terrible must be who he shot, not that he shot.

H





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Friday, February 17, 2006 1:20 PM

CARTOON


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Now that authorities and everyone (who isn't a Bush-hater liberal or 'Crazy Talkin' Pirate) agrees that this was an accident, perhaps we can put the 'Cheney goes on Rampage' Thread away.



Amen to that.

Although, I've actually already put it away. But, no doubt, the conspiratorial lunies will keep at it. After all, what else do they have in life to do than to imagine a conservative around every corner?


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Friday, February 17, 2006 1:44 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


A conservative with a gun?


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 5:24 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Cheney has a terrible accident.

Whittington escapes unscathed.


Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 6:41 PM

TK421


First, I'm a political moderate. I vote for both republicans and democrats. And I happen to not be a Bush/Cheney fan. I think this administartion is arrogant and bumbling beyond words.

But, with that said, the Tin Foil Hat Wearing Black Helicopters Piloted By Mossad Agents Under Orders From The Trilateral Commission Which is Working For Space Aliens Took Me Away To a Secret UN Concentration Camp Where I Was Forced To Have Big Foot's Love Child Conspiracy Theory Crowd is blowing this waaaaaaaay out of proportion.

Hunting accidents happen. This sort of thing is not at all unique. The only reason it's national news is because this time it happened to involve the VP.

I thought it was sort of funny too, up until Mr. Whittington had his heart attack.

No real crime happened here. At most Cheney didn't have the proper $7 stamp on his hunting license and recieved a warning. The stamp is a new thing and TX wildlife officials have been handing out warnings to everybody...the VP didn't get any special treatment there.




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Friday, February 17, 2006 7:35 PM

DREAMTROVE


Cheney is not a conservative. Even remotely. I think it was the sort of accident that happens to someone who is very tense, and not very careful, or responsible. It's symptomatic of the sort of bad judgment he has shown in office.

I'm so up for the idea of removing Cheney that I posted in another thread that I'm willing to drop my push to get rid of Bush if we can get rid of Cheney.


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Friday, February 17, 2006 7:55 PM

DREAMTROVE


TK421,

I'm a moderate conservative. I try not to vote for a democrat if I can help it.

1. Two is a crowd?

2. They don't just happen. Someone is a f^&kup in every case. Often a f^&kup who goes to jail. The odds actually work out to 10/million, or 1/100,000. Of those, well over 90% involve an excess of alcohol.

3. Trilateral Commission is real.

4. I'm not part of that crowd. Bigfoot is not real.

5. A crime happened here. It's illegal to drink and shoot. Cheney openly admitted to drinking and shooting Mr. Whittington without a lawyer stamp on his hunting license.

6. Anyway, I kind of agree, but it's the Pirate's job to see sinister schemes afoot, because even if he's wrong, he's sometimes right, and better than someone see it in case it's there to be seen.

7. I think that the one thing which came out here is that Cheney is not a level head, and he went off half cocked, which is an indication that his f^&kup in Iraq is not part of a masterplan, but is just a f^&kup, because he's a f^&kup.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 8:23 PM

TK421



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I'm a moderate conservative. I try not to vote for a democrat if I can help it.
Cool. I guess I could be described as a liberal repuclican or a conservative democrat.

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1. Two is a crowd?

I'm not sure what this means.

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2. They don't just happen. Someone is a f^&kup in every case. Often a f^&kup who goes to jail. The odds actually work out to 10/million, or 1/100,000. Of those, well over 90% involve an excess of alcohol.
I didn't say they "just" happen, I said they happen. Some people are acting as if this is the first time someone has been shot while hunting.

Just like car accidents. Sometimes excellent drivers with years of experience f**k up and find themselves in a wreck.

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3. Trilateral Commission is real.
Where did I say it wasn't? The Mossad is real too. Both are favorites of conspiracy theorists.

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4. I'm not part of that crowd. Bigfoot is not real.
Cool.

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5. A crime happened here. It's illegal to drink and shoot. Cheney openly admitted to drinking and shooting Mr. Whittington without a lawyer stamp on his hunting license.
Cheney admitted to having a beer at lunch a few hours before the incident.

I addressed the license thing but here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060214/en_afp/uscheneyaccidentshooting_0
60214035218

"Gaming officials said they had been issuing oral warnings instead of fines to hunters who had failed to update their licenses under the new rule.

Cheney's staff members had asked state authorities for all necessary permits beforehand and were never informed about the need for a seven-dollar stamp for quail hunting, his office said in its statement."

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6. Anyway, I kind of agree, but it's the Pirate's job to see sinister schemes afoot, because even if he's wrong, he's sometimes right, and better than someone see it in case it's there to be seen.

Pirate's hillarious. I'm enjoying reading his posts.

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7. I think that the one thing which came out here is that Cheney is not a level head, and he went off half cocked, which is an indication that his f^&kup in Iraq is not part of a masterplan, but is just a f^&kup, because he's a f^&kup.

Wow, that's a lot of conclusions to draw from this.

I think if one thing came out of this it's to never get careless or complacent while handling firearms. As a gun owner I'm always dismayed when I hear stories like this. It doesn't make it part of a conspiracy or anything sinister though.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 8:43 PM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think it was the sort of accident that happens to someone who is very tense, and not very careful, or responsible. It's symptomatic of the sort of bad judgment he has shown in office.



Yes! I couln't agree more.

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Friday, February 17, 2006 9:11 PM

DREAMTROVE


It's not a conspiracy. It's Cheney being an ass. But I'm already biased against them. Since I'm fairly solidly on the right, Cheney's group of lefties and their left-leaning agenda bugs me. I want him gone from party. So I'm not the most objective.

The crowd of two is the pirates.


The lawyer stamp was a joke. There's not really a lawyer season, in spite of what Hillary thinks.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 2:49 AM

HARDWARE


What did Cheney do wrong, $7 stamp aside? He violated one of Cooper's 4 rules; Be certain of your target and what lays beyond. Regardless of Whittington breaking hunting party protocol, Cheney was still wrong. The 4 rules exist to protect everyone's safety and they are never broken.

With an overnight lag in his talking to the police there's no real way to say how many beers Mr. Cheney may have had at lunch or afterward.

The decision to allow the ranch owner to break the news to a podunk paper just smacks of "hope nobody notices". Not saying that it is, just saying it stinks like soft peddling. If that was his actual chain of thought he is a bigger boob than I took him for.

Thank heavens he's not president. Nothing to see here folks, move along.

The more I get to know people the more I like my dogs.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 3:07 AM

SERGEANTX


Quote:

Originally posted by Hardware:
What did Cheney do wrong, $7 stamp aside?...



You want this to turn into one of the 150 post threads, don't you?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:51 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by Hero:
Now that authorities and everyone (who isn't a Bush-hater liberal or 'Crazy Talkin' Pirate) agrees that this was an accident, perhaps we can put the 'Cheney goes on Rampage' Thread away.

This whole thing stopped being news days ago. Now it’s just the Leftwingers in the media et al. throwing fits. Al Gore committed what might be considered sedition, but the media didn’t have much to say on that matter. They’d rather focus on a largely innocuous hunting accident.




Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:21 AM

DREAMTROVE


I think that I'm going to object to this thread. I've thought about it, it stuck me as quirky and pointless, but now I see the point.

But now I get Hero's game. He wants to create a republican thread, and thus eliminate the democrats. I think this is a bad idea, because it takes the republicans out of the other, majority debate, by luring them to post here instead.

There should be one debate. A debate with democrats and republicans in it. If you happen to not post a story first, then that is the price you have to pay, that someone else got to name the thread. It's not a big deal. I think more people will stay away from really offensive thread titles like "Bush Sr. Boy Sex." but "Cheney Goes on a Rampage" is not particularly abrasive, objectively. It's more like on the level with "Centuries old statue of Buddha blown up in Afghanistan; Fundamentalist Buddhists go on violent rampage!"

Here are some other more political thread titles

"Funny Cartoon sparks Islamic Jihad!" I thought this one was a little far gone, but I posted on it anyway.

"Bush hands security of America over to group with possible Al Qaeda connections" This one was mine, but I thought it was basically factual.

"Bush Admistration hurts students with cuts to financial aid and other programs" This was someone else's, but also basically factual. "Bush want to hurt students" might have been political. I don't actually think opposing Bush is a political point of view, it doesn't seem to be a partisan issue.

"Pentagon: Secret Report on Climate - Bush lied again" This one was fine until the end.

"Au revoir, Paul Martin!" This one was fair, but there's a political implication.

"Get your very own Bush at the PMS home shopping channel" I don't want to know.

"My Theory On Why Bush wants to Ruin Social Security" This is a political point of view I totally disagree with. I think social security is a farce, and it needs to be privatized. I would support Bush in this effort if I thought he gave a damn about it. I'm not at all convinced he does. I think that saying he does is part of Bush's standing up every once in a while and saying "I'm a Republican" because if he didn't, people might realize that he's really a Democrat.

To be precise, he's Clinton.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:28 AM

DREAMTROVE


Finn,

Cheney's accident is a character reference. If you are a conservative, than these things should matter. I suspect you just want to defend the administration. I have no idea why. I don't see where the left gains from an attack on Cheney. Cheney's approval rating going into this was already under 25%, thus completely and utterly killing the idea of him having a 2008 presidential run. The only danger now is that it will be so low that Cheney will be forced to resign. Since Cheney is probably as far left as a republican VP is likely to be, it stands only to benefit the right to see Cheney replaced by, what is guaranteed to be, another republican.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:13 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


There was almost certainly alcohol involved, and I conclude that because the hospital, doctor, victim, vice President, press spokesman, and sheriff have all gone terribly out of their NOT way to state otherwise or to provide definitve proof either way. Was Whittington tested for alcohol in the hospital? Most likely. Did Cheney fix himself a highball at dinner to explain alcohol in his blood, should he be tested? Possibly. Did the Secret Sevice keep the sheriffs away for 12+ hours before allowing access to the veep? Absolutely. But in absence of solid evidence- which was not collected as it would be in most shooting accidents- there is no proof. So Cheney gets off clean, legally, but in my book he's just a weasely little shit who cleans up the mess before dad comes home.

I'm more concerned about what Cheney said during that so-called interview as relating to "outing" a CIA offcier. A VP can declassify anything he wants to, whenever he wants to? Sheesh!


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Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:17 AM

KHYRON


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I think more people will stay away from really offensive thread titles like "Bush Sr. Boy Sex." but "Cheney Goes on a Rampage" is not particularly abrasive, objectively.



Had I known that this shooting incident would be such a big deal, I would've posted a different thread title. Or maybe not started the thread at all.

I thought the situtation, while very unfortunate for Whittington and I guess also for Cheney, was basically humorous, and so I posted what was intended to be a humorous thread, with a joke title and joke comment, expecting this whole situtation to be blown over by Wednesday and the thread to meet an early demise. I guess I didn't factor in that the media might have nothing else to report on and would turn this incident into a frenzy, and I didn't factor in that the mere mention of the name 'Cheney' would evoke a rabid response from some people on here, regardless of what he did.

I couldn't believe it when I saw some news networks debating over whether Cheney should resign over this. Now, I realise I said "Enough to kick him out of office, right!?", or something to that effect, but that was part of the humorous-thread angle I was working with. I think the notion of him leaving office because of this is ridiculous, almost as ridiculous as supporting the impeachment of a man for lying about having oral sex performed on him, then defending another man that started an illegal and unpopular war under false pretenses.

I don't like Cheney, but the media should leave this incident alone already and investigate some of the true crimes he committed while in office.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:38 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL


Quote:

Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Cheney's accident is a character reference. If you are a conservative, than these things should matter. I suspect you just want to defend the administration. I have no idea why. I don't see where the left gains from an attack on Cheney. Cheney's approval rating going into this was already under 25%, thus completely and utterly killing the idea of him having a 2008 presidential run. The only danger now is that it will be so low that Cheney will be forced to resign. Since Cheney is probably as far left as a republican VP is likely to be, it stands only to benefit the right to see Cheney replaced by, what is guaranteed to be, another republican.

The attacks against Cheney are not very rational; that I’ll grant you





Oh, he's so full of manure, that man! We could lay him in the dirt and grow another one just like him.
-- Ruby

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:58 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by DreamTrove:
"Get your very own Bush at the PMS home shopping channel" I don't want to know.


Mine, and it was a joke



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:40 PM

DREAMTROVE


Khyron,

I disagree. I think that people should be kicked out of office for minor offenses. I think that this was an unlevel-headed almost certainly drunken Cheney with a shotgun, the incident clearly happened on friday... there are just so many things. I think people who lie, or 'misspeak' should resign. I think people who are simply wrong should resign.

President and Vice president are nominal leadership roles, that's all they were ever intended to be. People elected republicans, and the republicans should rule until the people elect democrats. But it was a party ticket that they voted for, not a personal one. Anyone that congress feels in appropriate should be able to hold that post. This isn't exactly news, it's been done before. Any one of numerous bad calls like Abu Ghraib, should have had Bush and Cheney out on their asses.

Hell, I'm going to go out on a limb and say 9/11 should have had Bush and Cheney out on their asses. The failure of leadership alone, taking aside for the moment the actual possible involvement, was an indication of lack of leadership. Hastert should have become president pending an investigation on 9/11/01. At least by the end of the year. Cheney should be not only forced to resign over the hunting incident alone, but arrested, and sentenced to a rehabilitation program, as would happen to him if he were anyone else.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:17 PM

HAPPYBRAIN


I think people who lie, or 'misspeak' should resign. I think people who are simply wrong should resign.

Who would be left to run our country? Are you suggesting anarchy?

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 4:55 PM

DREAMTROVE


I stand by my statement.

I don't mean that if the President says "North Korea has nuclear weapons" and then it turns out that North Korea does not have nuclear weapons that the president would have to resign. Allow me to clarify:

Let's says a President says "North Korea has nuclear weapons."

Then he goes to war with NK based on this information. 100,000 people are killed, and it turns out NK had no nuclear weapons.

Or... a President says "North Korea has nuclear weapons" but he knows it to be false, and yet says it anyway to forward a political agenda.

In either case, such a president should be removed from office and replaced by someone more competent and honest from his own party.

If, however, a President says "North Korea has nuclear weapons" and it turns out to be wrong, but was not used as the basis for major disasterous policy decisions, then he should just have to apologize for the error.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:54 PM

FLETCH2


Driving in Texas with the wife today. At a light we parked behind yet another soccer mom driving a huge SUV. On the back was a sticker from the last election that read "I'm standing with President George W Bush."

"Yeah," my wife quips, "so would I, that puts the whole Secret Service between me and Cheney."

I love my wife, she's funny.

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Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:26 PM

DREAMTROVE


My favorite bumperstcker I saw here recently was "Kick Their Ass and Take Their Gas"

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Tuesday, February 21, 2006 8:02 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Too bad Cheney didn't just trip and blow his own head off. Then he could've been his very own Lone Nut.

CHENEY'S GOT A GUN - ANIMATED MUSIC VIDEO



to the tune of "Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith

Flash animation and lyrics by the Bob Rivers Show with Tooned In.

Note the beer cans.

MUSIC VIDEO FLASH DOWNLOAD:
www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/cheneyvid.asp

MUSIC VIDEO VIDEO DOWNLOAD:
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WARNING TO CINDY SHEEHAN! RUN - for US Senate!

footnote:

A MOST DANGEROUS GAME WITH ELMER CHENEY

"Cheney was half lying across the plain military issue style desk in an apparent drug stupor as Bush talked. Still wearing his hunting coat and hat, Cheney aimed his rifle at me from the desk and threatened, 'Or a-hunting we will go.' Bush finished Cheney's threat by singing, 'We'll catch a fox and put her in a box and lower her in a hole.' Bush looked at Cheney and burst out laughing. The sight of him dressed in his hunting clothes with a huge bore double-barreled shotgun to his shoulder inspired Bush to tell him he 'looked like Elmer Fudd.' Cheney, imitating the cartoon character, said, 'Where is that waskily wabbit?'"
-Cathy O'Brien, TRANCE Formation of America
http://trance-formation.com
http://www.the7thfire.com/Politics%20and%20History/most_dangerous_game
.htm


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http://archive.org/details/tmdg_broll
http://piratenews.org/video-archive.html

"'They're hurting us. Get me out!' The Government was playing with her brain. They opened up her skull and cut into her brain. The only reason you do that is to lobotomize somebody. They did it over, and over..."
-Dr Tam

"You know what Miami Vice is. Undercover drug agents taking control of the drug industry. A Vice President is just that - an undercover drug agent taking control of the drug industry - for the President."
-Dick Cheney, TRANCE Formation of America

Ronald and Nancy Reagan on drugs:
http://bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/files/rrn.wav


"FUCK CHENEY, ER, I MEAN TO SAY HEIL DICK."

PELLETS PENETRATED WHITTINGTON'S SKULL, SINUSES, HEART AND LIVER:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/18/AR2006
021801147_pf.html

http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/153

Quote:

Dear Mr. President,

"It is my considered judgment that you should now resign. I expect in your lonely embattled position this would seem to you as an act of disloyalty from one you have supported and helped in so many ways. My own view is that I would now ill serve a President whose massive accomplishments I will always respect and whose family I love, if I did not now give you my judgment. Until this moment resignation has been no answer at all, but given the impact of the latest development, and it will be a lasting one, I now firmly feel resignation is best for the country, best for this President. I believe this view is held by most Republican leaders across the country. This letter is much more difficult because of the gratitude I will always have for you. If you do leave office history will properly record your achievements with a lasting respect."
-George H. W. Bush Sr., Sir Knight of the British Empire, Chairman, Republican National Committee

President Tricky Dick Nixon, Mafia attorney at law, resigned the next day, rather than face arrest for assassination of President John F. Kennedy Sr. and treasonous coup d'etat on November 22, 1963, according to Nixon's convicted felon chief of staff H.R. Haldeman in his autobiography, "The Ends of Power", AND ACCORDING TO NIXON HIMSELF ON TV:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/neal.mccarthy/jfkvideos.htm

"It seems that in all of those Nixon references to the Bay of Pigs, he was actually referring to the Kennedy assassination."
—H.R. Haldeman, convicted felon, Nixon's White House chief of staff, in his autobiography, The Ends of Power



NIXON DIDN'T RESIGN AND VP AGNEW WASN'T CONVICTED IN OFFICE - NOT! IT'S A CONSPIRACY, STUPID!

"Money was too good. I got stupid. I'm sorry, okay?"
-Jayne

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO (VERSION 2)
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
(how to shoot govt assholes in the head just like Dick)



WHAT A GREAT IDEA TO SHUT UP THE NEOCONS! THANKS DICK!

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 2:36 AM

DREAMTROVE


Cheney's Got a Gun was clever.

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 10:26 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Yeah, they've got a bunch funny toons and songs at that radio station.

Quote:

Secret Service says Cheney was DRUNK when he shot lawyer

Written report by SS agents: "inebriated" VP consumed alcohol before, during and after hunting espedition.

Doug Thompson,
Capitol Hill Blue,
February 22 2006.

A written report from Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago says Cheney was "clearly inebriated" at the time of the shooting.

Agents observed several members of the hunting party, including the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited "visible signs" of impairment, including slurred speech and erratic actions, the report said.

According to those who have read the report and talked with others present at the outing, Cheney was drunk when he gunned down his friend and the day-and-a-half delay in allowing Texas law enforcement officials on the ranch where the shooting occurred gave all members of the hunting party time to sober up.

We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day.

"This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it."

Cheney has a long history of alcohol abuse, including two convictions of driving under the influence when he was younger. Doctors tell me that someone like Cheney, who is taking blood thinners because of his history of heart attacks, could get legally drunk now after consuming just one drink.

If Cheney was legally drunk at the time of the shooting, he could be guilty of a felony under Texas law and the shooting, ruled an accident by a compliant Kenedy County Sheriff, would be a prosecutable offense.

But we will never know for sure because the owners of the Armstrong Ranch, where the shooting occurred, barred the sheriff's department from the property on the day of the shooting and Kenedy County Sheriff Ramon Salinas III agreed to wait until the next day to send deputies in to talk to those involved.

Sheriff's Captain Charles Kirk says he went to the Armstrong Ranch immediately after the shooting was reported on Saturday, February 11 but both he and a game warden were not allowed on the 50,000-acre property. He called Salinas who told him to forget about it and return to the station.

"I told him don't worry about it. I'll make a call," Salinas said. The sheriff claims he called another deputy who moonlights at the Armstrong ranch, said he was told it was "just an accident" and made the decision to wait until Sunday to investigate.

"We've known these people for years. They are honest and wouldn't call us, telling us a lie," Salinas said.

Like all elected officials in Kenedy County, Salinas owes his job to the backing and financial support of Katherine Armstrong, owner of the ranch and the county's largest employer.

"The Armstrongs rule Kenedy County like a fiefdom," says a former employee.

Secret Service officials also took possession of all tests on Whittington's blood at the hospitals where he was treated for his wounds. When asked if a blood alcohol test had been performed on Whittington, the doctors who treated him at Christus Spohn Hospital Memorial in Corpus Christi or the hospital in Kingsville refused to answer. One admits privately he was ordered by the Secret Service to "never discuss the case with the press."

It's a sure bet that is a private doctor who treated the victim of Cheney's reckless and drunken actions can't talk to the public then the memo that shows the Vice President was drunk as a skunk will never see the light of day.

www.capitolhillblue.com/blog/2006/02/secret_service_agents_say_chen.ht
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See also:

Dick Cheney's 2 DUI CONVICTIONS court files:
www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html

"There's a report out tonight that 24-years ago I was apprehended in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a DUI. That's an accurate story. I'm not proud of that. I oftentimes said that years ago I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much and I did on that night. I was pulled over. I admitted to the policeman that I had been drinking. I paid a fine. And I regret that it happened. But it did. I've learned my lesson."
—Governor George Bush Jr., rebroadcast on CNN Larry King Live, November 2, 2000
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0011/02/lkl.00.html

Kennbunkport Maine Police Report of Bush Arrest Record:
www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html



Ain't it funny that a gang of convicted alcoholics are driving USA into the ditch?

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Unfortunately, driving while under the influence is against the law but driving the country into a ditch while under the influence is perfectly acceptable in our society.

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