Irony is Kind of Ironic That Way by dreamtrove

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Irony is Kind of Ironic That Way

POSTED BY: DREAMTROVE
UPDATED: Friday, February 24, 2006 17:39
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Friday, February 24, 2006 2:37 PM

The owner of the property

http://www.ilv.ucl.ac.be/ILV-US/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/100
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Feels that the tenant

Did not take proper care of their last rental

Port Authority Sues to Block Dubai Deal:

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newyork/ny-bc-ny--portssecurity
-law0223feb23,0,7832306.story?coll=ny-region-apnewyork

For those who don't know, Port Authority of New York and New Jersey built and owned the World Trade Centers, and owns two of the ports in question in the deal with the UAE Dubai ports, who had among its own tenants, intentionally or not, Al Qaeda, including two of the 9/11 hijackers.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:05 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Richard Reid, the Al Qaeda shoe bomber, was from England, and P&O, who currently runs NY harbo(u)r is an English company. Alert the Media!

Timothy McVeigh was an American, and there are Americans working in New York harbo(u)r. Oh Sh*t.

Zacarias Moussaoui was a French citizen...and I have French's mustard in my fridge. Oh, M*rde. What are we to do?

And I'm sure that Osama ben Laden is related to Kevin Bacon in some way.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:23 PM

CARTOON

Actually, Larry Silverstein (of Silverstein Properties) is the tenant of the WTC site (which included all 7 buildings). He bought the lease (which I believe was a 100 year lease) from Port Authority in 2001 -- just prior to the attacks.

The Port Authority of NY and NJ still own and maintain the property, but Silverstein's their tenant, and simultaneously the landlord to whomever he rents out individual space (assuming the rebuilding gets finished and tenants return -- I believe WTC #7 was nearly complete last time I saw it, but it is still some time from being occupied).

I get the irony, though.

That was my favorite spot on earth, and the one place I never missed on every single visit into the city.

I can understand the Port Authority's hesitance.

Regardless as to whether the U.S. is going to allow foreign companies (from any country) to continue to purchase and own entry points into this country, they should (at the very least) demand the highest level of security clearance for anyone employed at these entry points -- whether they're owned by foreign or domestic companies.

The days for being lax at our entry points should be over. Higher scrutiny is necessary regardless of who controls the ports.

EDIT: I just checked. It was a 99-year lease, and he signed it in July 2001. I was close.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 4:59 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Off topic -

Second row of photos down, first on the left. The little saucer-shaped thing near the top of the building is a tennis court.

It has just enough room for the court itself. There is no way to get far behind the baseline. There is no net around the court, just a flat, raised step and a miniscule railing. We were looking at the photos the other day. The conclusion - you gotta have a lot of balls to play tennis there.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:14 PM

HIXIE129

THird picture was almost the same exact view I had when you looked out my living room windows.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:20 PM

KHYRON

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Originally posted by rue:
Off topic -

Second row of photos down, first on the left. The little saucer-shaped thing near the top of the building is a tennis court.

It has just enough room for the court itself. There is no way to get far behind the baseline. There is no net around the court, just a flat, raised step and a miniscule railing. We were looking at the photos the other day. The conclusion - you gotta have a lot of balls to play tennis there.

Yeah, I saw photos of Federer and somebody else (I think Agassi) playing a "match" up there for promotional purposes. This was about a year ago. They ended up hitting most of the balls off the court.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:33 PM

DREAMTROVE

Silverstein is a middleman, not technically speaking the tenant, since he doesn't reside. He sub-lets. If there wasn't a UAE owned firm, such as the present one, in the WTC, they certainly held a large interest in many companies that did. Curious, Dubai has it's own WTC. It wasn't always called that, but it is now, I couldn't find the date that they named there office and convention center "The World Trade Center" just a reference that it used to be called office and convention center.

Counterspin: The govt. of the UAE funded the 9/11 attacks and owns the company Dubai Ports.

I actually had to look this up:

Tenant:
1. One that pays rent to use or occupy land, a building, or other property owned by another.
2. A dweller in a place; an occupant.

So the tenant is the rent-paying occupier, not the leaseholder. If the leaseholder is a subletter, then the subletees become the tenants.

Anyway, this stinks on a level that almost nothing in my lifetime in US policy has ever stunk before. Except torture. But it stinks in a different way.

Aside from all national security issues, this is a govt. which gave aid and funding to men who flew planes in the WTC, and now may profit directly because of it. If we allow this to go through, not only is everything that the president has said B^||S@!+, (and I might add, his opposition, Kerry, Dean, and the Dept. of HLS, etc.) but also the entire global capitalist system has become a game of bomb the opposition for profit. I think the folks on the left already think this is so, and so it behooves all of us on the right to uphold the rule of law in commerce so that there is no support for this idea.

Also, this is not a "Harriet Myers moment." Harriet myers is skipping a stone and hitting your friend in the foot. This by analogy, is shooting your friend in the head on a quail hunt. We're under fire, friendly fire.

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:37 PM

DREAMTROVE

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Second row of photos down, first on the left. The little saucer-shaped thing near the top of the building is a tennis court.

It has just enough room for the court itself. There is no way to get far behind the baseline. There is no net around the court, just a flat, raised step and a miniscule railing. We were looking at the photos the other day. The conclusion - you gotta have a lot of balls to play tennis there.

LOL, literally. Also there is this problem: I got it, I got it, I got ieeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh - THWAP!

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Friday, February 24, 2006 5:39 PM

DREAMTROVE

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Hixie129 wrote:
Friday, February 24, 2006 17:14
THird picture was almost the same exact view I had when you looked out my living room windows.

Another New Yorker?

Must take ya' back.

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