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Originally posted by dreamtrove:


3. Bin Laden was a terrorist long before he met the CIA, the idea that we created him was created by people who want to blame America for everything, I think that means probably by Americans. But the point is Bin Laden didn't need our help to do it, he had already been in a war.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Bump.

What? Ignored? I post a story from Fox News deploring Bush, and no one even bothers to read it. Hrm.

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DREAMTROVE WROTE:

Bush hands security of America over to group with possible Al Qaeda connections

Administration OK With UAE Running Six Major U.S. Ports
www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184599,00.html

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UAE terminal takeover extends to 21 ports

UPI

A United Arab Emirates government-owned company is poised to take over port terminal operations in 21 American ports, far more than the six widely reported.

The Bush administration has approved the takeover of British-owned Peninsular & Oriental Steam Navigation Co. to DP World, a deal set to go forward March 2 unless Congress intervenes.

P&O is the parent company of P&O Ports North America, which leases terminals for the import and export and loading and unloading and security of cargo in 21 ports, 11 on the East Coast, ranging from Portland, Maine to Miami, Florida, and 10 on the Gulf Coast, from Gulfport, Miss., to Corpus Christi, Texas, according to the company's Web site.

President George W. Bush on Tuesday threatened to veto any legislation designed to stall the handover.

www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060223-051657-4981r

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Chertoff, And Fellow Neocons, Are Behind Arab Port Deal

Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co
A 200 year-old British Company Is Sold to Arabs

The Arab Company Who Bought The British Company
It Manages Ports In Dubai

Dubai Will Control These Ports


Dubai Is A Key Mossad Center In The Mideast

What Is Going On?

A British company, Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., who runs major commercial operations at shipping ports in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, Miami, New Orleans and Philadelphia, has been sold to a UAE company.

The UAE Company, Dubai Port World, is state-owned, and now inherits their businesses.

Who Is involved

Lord Sterling of Plaistow, CEO of Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co., consummated the swindle, which will reward his Zionist investors with $7 billion.

Head Of Homeland Security

Michael Chertoff , who is a dual-citizen Israeli/American (born in Communist Czechoslovakia), ok's the deal (while leaving US borders wide-open to 100-million illegal alien terrorists).


Separated at Birth?

Bob Dole

Dole, the 85 yr old ex-speaker, was a lobbyist for Dubai in this deal.
www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Former_Senate_chief_Dole_hired_to_0222.html

What Is The Scheme?

The core of the deal is a stock swindle. A group of Zionist stockholders inflated the stock price 300%, then sold it to the citizens of the UAE for $6.8 billion. Basically all the Arabs get are ‘Port Service Contracts’, and some marginal loading equipment

P&O the British company, that has been running six U.S. ports, is now a state-owned business in the United Arab Emirates.

Actual Value

P & O's profit from their port operation was $153 million pounds. PE's run between 5 and 15, so Dubai should have paid $765 million to $2.2 billion.

Why An Arab Country?

Port managers are a dime a dozen. You have 10 in the US, and there are others in Japan, China, Australia, etc.

These are political contracts worth a fortune, and are the reason $60,000 a year politicians have fat Swiss bank accounts.

Neocons Take An Odd Stance

These are the same Bush Neocon/Zionist Advisors, who bombed Iraq to the stone age because Saddam was evil. They told us, 'They are bad, and we are good', but today the Zionists are 100% behind this port deal.

Who Are These People ?

These are Neo-Cons (new conservatives), and they are all Dual Citizen Israelis. Not a single one served in the US armed forces. They basically are a lobby that pushes for Israeli-oriented bills.
www.propagandamatrix.com/180903neocons.html

All these men are Zionist warmongers, who adore and obey Israel, and who view America chiefly as Israel's financial sugar daddy and mercenary slave. Their aim is global power for the Zionist elite, and profits for Zionist bankers and Illuminati-directed oil barons. They seem to have no problem if stacks of bloody young American fighting men mount up in Iraq, Iran, and Syria. The dead, after all, are valueless.

Their Real Goal

This port deal creates a patsy for the coming nuclear attack on America.

This Is Quite The Scam

Zionists skin the citizens of Dubai for $7 billion, and then set them up as fall-guys for a nuclear attack. Bush tells 300 million Americans: - "We must not discriminate against Arabs".

We just sit here talking about H-3's, ball games, and the value of our 401-k's, while Zionists plan a total economic collapse.

Click link for all photos, graphics and footnotes to this crime:
www.judicial-inc.biz/arab_port_deal.htm

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Citizen,

I believe the challenge was a credible source. I think that proof of a Bush-Bin Laden link would be my sunny day by now, but I have no reason to believe that it's so. I followed that Salem Bin Laden conspiracy, but there was really nothing there. If I'm in business with Jeb, that doesn't mean I told Bush to invade Iraq.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Citizen,

I believe the challenge was a credible source. I think that proof of a Bush-Bin Laden link would be my sunny day by now, but I have no reason to believe that it's so. I followed that Salem Bin Laden conspiracy, but there was really nothing there. If I'm in business with Jeb, that doesn't mean I told Bush to invade Iraq.

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Sorry should of gotten back to you sooner. It was largely tongue in cheek, based on the fact that the Bush's have links to the Bin Laden's and the Bin Laden's have definite links with Al Qaeda (being the son is runnin' it an all) which means George Bush's links to Al Qaeda are no less flimsy than Sadaams, from what I see ...

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear

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Originally posted sacredchao:
For those and other reasons, I definately think this 'deal' should be looked at. Of course, I realize that what they are buying is already owned by a British company. And I have a problem with that as well. (Even though they are our ally).

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Originally posted by citizen:

Why? British Telecom, which is largely responcible for the fixed communications of the British Military is largely American owned last time I chekced, this is more of a cause to worry for the British than a British company running port operations in an American port is cause for Americans to worry.

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Originally posted by citizen:
Dinky:
You really did miss the point completely didn't you?

The point was not that Bush HAD links to Al Qaeda, it was that Saddam did NOT.

And maybe before you start calling things idiot lies and rumours you should actually know what you’re talking about, everything in my post is fact. The Bush family and the Bin Landen family DO have very close ties.

So frankly if I want to call Bush an Idiot, I will. I don't need to be preached at by you for calling him an idiot, because he is an idiot, sorry but all the unfounded respect in the world ain't going to change that. Neither are all the bought elections, or elections gained through the national fever of a "successful" war (it works, did for Thatcher as it did for Bush).

I respect Clinton more than Bush, at least he did work on the peace process (and by that I don't mean dropping bombs to 'pacify' people, though he did that too). Just so you know the position of president doesn't afford anyone any more respect than anyone else and too me Bush has consistently managed to act in a way too diminish any respect I could of had for him from the beginning.

Lastly I suggest you actually read the posts of this thread, before you start just blowing off wind, then you'd realise nothing you've said is at all relevent to this thread.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
You should never give powers to a leader you like that you’d hate to have given to a leader you fear

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Dubai financed the 9/11 attacks, according to the CIA, and the 911 commission, neither one of which are partisan, or are generally wrong

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Okay, I knew this would get some responses

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,184599,00.html

Go ahead, troll away.

I'm not gloating with the I told you he was evil, I'm actually concerned, I think this is a bad idea.

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Originally posted Dinky:
I didn't call anyone an idiot. I called the rumours idiot :).

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And I know as much as you THINK you know.

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Bush didn't start this war, but you liberals seem to think he did, and want it to be that way.

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And that's just it, my belief differs from yours. Just as it does from every other liberal democrat out there, even the very senators show they have no respect for Bush even though he is the President. But I do, why? Again because I said that's just the way I live my life, I believe in this country and I respect a lot of people I don't like or don't agree with. I believe a man in that position deserves respect.

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There are plenty of people on my side that believe the same as you, only visa versa about Bill Clinton and so.

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I don't respect, Jacque Chirac for instance

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I think this post is in error.....

more like:

US voters hand security of America over to wackjob with possible Al Qaeda connections

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