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NASA Boeing problems...Outsourcing NASA to Arab Emirates and to INDIA

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 6:36 AM

Part of the far-right GOPs vision ? Kill pension funds, break up NASA, loot Social Security..... Bush was recently in India defending the offshoring of US jobs. After the second Shuttle disaster Bush was forced to make a talk about science and space : so he gave NASA a huge new list of impossible tasks like sending people to Mars, doing robot missions around the Solarsystem, get Shuttle trucking to ISS, land on the Moon, finish the space-station, build a new Saturn-5 rocket, build a base to mine the Moon. The Bush-plan was always going to be an impossible task and thus set up NASA for another massive fall. Seems Bush-Jnr is trying to kill every single federal government program and do what Nixon finally wanted to do - end US space exploration.
http://asia.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=19182
He is now outsourcing NASA to India
Now he just has to break up NASA a little more and outsource the rest of it to cheap places like Malaysia, Egypt, China, Pakistan, Russia...etc

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:17 PM

NASA will be sucked dry and broken up

NASA is going extinct like the dinosaurs
if you want to know who the heck is getting off the 3rd rock from the Sun - ask Russians, Burt Rutan or the Chinese

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/china-05zzzzzzzzd.html
http://www.rokits.org/gallery/slideshow.php?set_albumName=x-prize
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=17336

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 1:45 PM

Your post is misleading, dishonest and inflammatory.

Nowhere in the article does it say anything about outsourcing NASA to India. In fact, the only place that jobs are mentioned, it's India who has contracted a U.S. company to improve their traffic control system.

There's a bit about putting a NASA instrument on an Indian lunar mission, and another about promoting interoperability between Indian and U.S. systems. That's about the extent of it.

Everyone should ignore your thread title and post, and read the article and judge for themselves.

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 2:20 PM

NASA is dead

The future of space lies with Russia and China

http://www.space.com/news/russia_china_010910.html

" Over and in, last call for sin
While everyone's lost, the battle is won
With all these things that I've done "

The Killers

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/killers/allthesethingsthativedone.html

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Tuesday, March 21, 2006 3:36 PM

The future of space lies in Mojave California. This was always the way. Aviation in its extant form was born not in Kitty Hawk but a little town called Hammondsport NY. The future of space is here, and the sun has far from set on the USA. All we have to do is free ourselves of the shackles of the tax monster, which is the only thing, and I say the *ONLY* thing causing outsourcing today.

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:20 AM

NASA's budget request for fiscal year 2007 includes postponement or abandonment of several key space-exploration programs, including the James Webb Space Telescope, which is intended as a partial replacement for the aging Hubble, and the Terrestrial Planet Finder, the giant telescope expected to be able to take photographs of Earthlike planets orbiting distant stars.
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA_Postpones_Or_Kills_Several_Majo
r_Projects.html

astrobiology killed
The primary reasons NASA developed astrobiology was to impact all of NASA's missions including Earth science (planetary ecology), astrophysics (Kepler is a perfect example), and solar system exploration (Mars is just one example). Human exploration was always known to be an activity that would occur in the far distant future. Mars missions are not going away. The queue that exists continues to grow. A new Mars Scout mission Announcement of Opportunity is about to be released. Only by funding the science and instrument programs will future principal investigators be able to truly look for the "fingerprints of life."
http://www.space.com/searchforlife/060309_seti_thursday.html

NASA can't be doing science education no more - facts about planets might offend the religious zealots and witch burners.
George Deutsch, a presidential appointee in NASA headquarters, told a Web designer working for the agency to add the word “theory” after every mention of the Big Bang, according to an e-mail message from Mr. Deutsch that another NASA employee forwarded to The Times.
The Big Bang memo came from Mr. Deutsch, a 24-year-old presidential appointee in the press office at NASA headquarters whose résumé says he was an intern in the “war room” of the 2004 Bush-Cheney re-election campaign. A 2003 journalism graduate of Texas A&M, he was also the public-affairs officer who sought more control over Dr. Hansen’s public statements.
http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/02/04/administration-official-big-bang-
is-just-a-theory/
The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out since he gave a lecture last month calling for prompt reductions in emissions of greenhouse gases linked to global warming.
http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/environmental_law/2006/01/bush_admini
stra.html

Beyond Einstein would be delayed indefinitely. These are missions such as Constellation -X and LISA that would attempt to answer questions about the Big Bang, Black Holes and Dark Matter.
The Associated Press has reported that a long list of satellites orbiting Earth are under threat of being delayed, downsized or cancelled. Scientists have warned that decreasing funding for these satellites will jeopardize the capability for forecasting weather and monitoring environmental issues.
http://www.universetoday.com/am/publish/nasa_science_missions_cut.html

Some people say NASA is being slowly broken up to Evangelical zealots and rightwing Ultra-Captialists, whatever is left of NASA after this madness will be outsourced to India

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:

The future of space lies in Mojave California.

It was ok long ago, not sure about Commiefornia anymore

Richard Branson, Bezos can they get to orbit?

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Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
NASA is dead

A little more insanity here, GW's evangelical zealots censoring NASA, Bush giving NASA impossible goals while chopping its budget down and down

NASA Astrobiology in Peril
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=20024

Scientist says Bush administration tried to stop him from speaking to journalists about global warming
http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=38096

REWRITING THE SCIENCE – NASA's top scientist studying climate says the Bush administration is restricting what he can say about global warming. Scott Pelley reports.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml

President George W. Bush is preparing a budget request for next year that officials say would carve savings from programs such as Medicare, NASA and agriculture, testing lawmakers' pledges to hold down spending in an election year... Iraq Costs and Hurricanes Katrina nightmare is coming back to haunt him
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aAj933iHkxwY&refer
=us

Blind in space
Budget cuts threatening satellites that forecast hurricanes, study global warming
http://www.flatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060313/OPINION/60
3130306/1004/opinion
This is dangerous

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
The future of space lies in Mojave California. This was always the way. Aviation in its extant form was born not in Kitty Hawk but a little town called Hammondsport NY. The future of space is here, and the sun has far from set on the USA. All we have to do is free ourselves of the shackles of the tax monster, which is the only thing, and I say the *ONLY* thing causing outsourcing today.

Hear hear!!!

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Friday, April 7, 2006 8:07 PM

Guys like Rutan will help push us out there to a new frontier, and many also say the Solar System's future is Chinese

the Red China alarm bells are ringing

U.S. losing space race, congressmen say
WASHINGTON - Some congressmen believe the United States and China are in an unacknowledged space race that this country could lose if it doesn't spend more money on the civilian space program.
The communist nation's military runs its manned space program, employs an estimated 200,000 workers and has set a goal of putting an astronaut on the moon by 2017...

http://www.flatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060331/NEWS02/603
310339/1007/news02
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060331/NEWS07/603310
446/1009
..
By contrast, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration is a civilian government program with a limited budget that directly employs fewer than 20,000 civil servants and has lost the commanding lead it once held over the rest of the world in human space exploration.
"We have a space race going
on right now and the American people are totally unaware of all this," said Rep. Tom DeLay, the Texas Republican whose district includes Johnson Space Center near Houston.
The theme, which is not new, emerged again Thursday at a Capitol Hill hearing where lawmakers were quizzing NASA Administrator Mike Griffin about the Bush administration's budget request for the space program.
This time, though, lawmakers sounded as if they might be willing to do more than just talk about the issue.
Griffin was asked to produce
in 30 days an unclassified report to Congress containing an assessment of the Chinese space program and its goals.
Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va., chairman of the House Appropriations subcommittee with NASA oversight, said he would hold a hearing on the subject to coincide with the report's release.
Griffin acknowledged that China's new Shenzou spaceships are capable of supporting a crew on a round-trip mission to the moon.
But their Long March rockets are not powerful enough to get them there, he said.
The United States has neither a crew vehicle nor a rocket capable of making a moon run.
The shuttle is designed for low Earth orbit only.

http://www.space.com/news/ft_060331_nasa_china_congress.html

Mars is going to be called the Red-planet for many reasons

the 'Joss vision' of a Western/Chinese front in space ain't just some fantasy, its a lot more real than GW's vision for Mars

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Monday, August 25, 2008 5:29 AM

India, Nasa tie up for Chandrayaan
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/India_Nasa_tie_up_for_Chandra
yaan/articleshow/3386950.cms

Experts: Reliance on Russia makes NASA weak
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/08/14/nasa.russia.soyuz/?iref=i
ntlOnlyonCNN

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Monday, August 25, 2008 5:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JaynezTown:
...land on the Moon,

That will never happen. Men on the moon...thats like trying to prove the Earth is round or breaking the sound barrier, or hitting more homers then the Babe...impossible, can't happen. We'd have to fly and we all know man can't fly.

Now women on the moon...I like the sound of that. Perhaps they could be Amazons.

H

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Monday, August 25, 2008 6:20 AM

Quote:
Budget cuts threatening satellites that forecast hurricanes, study global warming

But plenty and to spare for spy satellites to invade the privacy of, and harrass, americans.

Not so many folk have been payin attention, but the Chinese killed a couple of our "secret" spy satellites over a period of weeks - forgive me, I have to be vague on the timeline to protect a source...

And then later gave our intel folks a couple of strong hints that anything in orbit they felt was a threat or nuisance, wouldn't BE in orbit very long.

The whole issue slid under the notice of most folk, but I am sure NRO was gnashing their teeth about it - me, I wonder about the how, we'd have spotted a missle launch, so I am thinkin HERF, directed EMP, or even guidance system hack/jamming.

Considering how easily the signals from most sats are to decrypt, I strongly suspect the latter.

NASA sucks ass anyway, ten times the money for one hundreth of the effort, as with any Gov sponsored monopoly locked in mutual embrace with the Mil-Industrial Complex.

But gorram it, SOMEBODY build me a spaceship so I can get off this rock before we blow ourselves to hell, ok ?

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, August 25, 2008 6:24 AM

Well Hero, I dunno about Amazon moon babes, but you could ask John Carter about them Martian chicks...

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Monday, August 25, 2008 7:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Well Hero, I dunno about Amazon moon babes, but you could ask John Carter about them Martian chicks...

John Carter is a Republican: http://carter.house.gov/

H

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Monday, August 25, 2008 8:01 AM

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

Quote:
...thats like trying to prove the Earth is round or breaking the sound barrier, or hitting more homers then the Babe...impossible, can't happen.

Or like human activity leading to global climate change...

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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Monday, August 25, 2008 10:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Well Hero, I dunno about Amazon moon babes, but you could ask John Carter about them Martian chicks...

Nobody does women with big muscular asses better than Frazetta, he's the master.

Definitely agree on the Mojave CA thing too.

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Monday, August 25, 2008 2:50 PM

Boris Vallejo does pretty well, too...

EC

If the prefix "pro-" means "for" or "in favor of", and "con" is its opposite, and if "progress" means "pushing forward" or "improving"... then what the hell does "Congress" mean?

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Wednesday, May 20, 2020 6:26 AM

https://www.cbsnews.com/video/boeing-spaceship-fails-during-first-nasa
-test-mission/

Boeing spaceship fails during first NASA test mission

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Wednesday, March 17, 2021 12:05 PM

Did someobody buy up the United States like a cheap whore as it struggled to pay for the costs of the Iraq, Libya, Syria and Afghanistan wars?

Scumbags from Colorado Boulder and California, Berkeley have been sharing satellite and missile weapons technology with the islamic Mohammedans

Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, Vice President and Prime Minister of the United Arab Emirates and Ruler of Dubai

The same nation giving jihadi funds to ISIS?

Arab spacecraft closes in on Mars on historic flight
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/uae/arab-space
craft-closes-in-on-mars-on-historic-flight/articleshow/80761254.cms

United Arab Emirates’ “Hope Probe” reaches Mars’ orbit
https://thegauntlet.ca/2021/03/09/united-arab-emirates-hope-probe-reac
hes-mars-orbit/

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Saturday, May 15, 2021 1:11 PM

Boeing's 737 Max aircraft under scrutiny again
https://news.yahoo.com/boeings-737-max-aircraft-under-230449448.html

Boeing, Bezos and Musk Have a Lot Riding?
https://www.newcitymars.com/2021/05/04/how-spacex-beat-boeing-in-the-r
ace-to-launch-nasa-astronauts/

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Friday, June 25, 2021 5:35 PM

https://www.firstpost.com/india/indias-first-indigenous-aircraft-carri
er-ins-vikrant-to-be-commissioned-next-year-all-you-need-to-know-9752841.html

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 4:48 PM

I was wrong about the Russians while we see how great the Soyuz was trucking payloads into orbit, supplying stations its over for them now, an invasion February 2022, Russia and then sanctions

A lot of us were unsure about Musk, some of those rockets failed but now he has stepped up and transformed the private space industry.

Eutelsat OneWeb the company is headquartered in London

Before the invasion of Ukraine the Russian Soyuz was rented, a commerical launch the Guiana Space Centre in French South America.

Now they want a Space Station around the Moon and the Crew and Science Airlock Module designed by religion nation of monarchy Arabs for some strange reason.

Amazon’s Project Kuiper May Soon Join Eutelsat OneWeb, Others To Secure Satcom Licence In India

https://inc42.com/buzz/amazons-project-kuiper-may-soon-join-eutelsat-o
neweb-others-to-secure-satcom-licence-in-india/

Meet The 4 Astronauts For ISRO's Gaganyaan Mission

https://zeenews.india.com/web-stories/india/meet-the-4-astronauts-for-
isros-gaganyaan-mission-2725461

‘Our future together couldn’t be brighter’: Sunita Williams’s special message from ISS on India-US space collaborations

https://indianexpress.com/article/world/sunita-williams-message-iss-in
dia-us-space-collaborations-9447470/

"India has been very successful in space sector in last 20 yrs": Former NASA astronaut

https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/274452962/india-has-been-very-succ
essful-in-space-sector-in-last-20-yrs-former-nasa-astronaut

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 4:53 PM

NASA Johnson

Gateway - Lunar Space Station Trailer

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Tuesday, July 23, 2024 5:03 PM

There is Bill Nelson, Christopher Scolese, Charles Bolden, Robert Lightfoot, Jim Bridenstine, Steve Jurczyk.

Is Mike Griffin right about NASA's Artemis program?

James E. Webb was often seen as the best, under Dwight D. Eisenhower NASA was young and was behind the Soviets, in more modern era the leadership of Daniel Goldin is seen as a beancounter guy who was around for a long time with few results other than some small success and lots of cutbacks.

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Thursday, August 29, 2024 3:04 PM

more issues

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Thursday, August 29, 2024 3:06 PM

Boeing’s No Good, Never-Ending Tailspin Might Take NASA With It

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/28/opinion/nasa-boeing-starliner-moon.
html

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Thursday, August 29, 2024 5:21 PM

India had space program delays, many want to finish with the ISS

not sure the ISS will be around by the time India gets its manned program moving

Gaganyaan Mission: ISRO set to conduct first test flight ahead of India’s inaugural manned space mission
https://www.businesstoday.in/visualstories/news/gaganyaan-mission-isro
-set-to-conduct-first-test-flight-before-indias-first-manned-space-mission-163378-18-08-2024

NASA’s inspector general predicts continued cost growth for SLS mobile launch platform

https://spacenews.com/nasas-inspector-general-predicts-continued-cost-
growth-for-sls-mobile-launch-platform/

Elon Musk stepped up when Branson and Bezos failed to deliver

SpaceX postpones historic mission featuring first private spacewalk
https://www.spacedaily.com/reports/SpaceX_postpones_historic_mission_f
eaturing_first_private_spacewalk_999.html

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Tuesday, October 29, 2024 5:42 AM

Boeing may put its iconic space business up for sale and had talks with Jeff Bezos’s Blue Origin, report says

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-may-put-iconic-space-212046759.h
tml

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