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Originally posted by citizen:
I didn't reply to you, until you started talking to me.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.

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I care that my Representitive is a colossal joke, and is an embarrasment to the US Congress. How is that proving my way " is the only right one" ?

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I never mentioned an Anti-American view point though, you made that up. You’ve missed your dosage again haven’t you.

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Because you would have stood up for her, had she been a Republican.

I find that funny is all. Her actions are out of line whether she's a Republican, Democrate or Monster Raving Loony party. But you wouldn't think so. It's high-larious.

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You commented about US forces bombing hospitals, did you not ?

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's you who is projecting your own thoughts and views onto others.

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What is hi-larious is you thinking you have ME all figured out. (You're an idiot )
... (Blah Blah Blah )
You think you have me all figured out? HA! (You're an idiot )

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Yep, been watching you for a while actually. The funny thing is you think you have me figured out. I've been pressing your buttons all through this thread, gnawing at your exposed nerves, where as conversely you've not done anything to me except give me a good laugh.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You mention bombing hospitals as if there was some intent, or that our military ( and our country ) puts the same value on hospitals as military targets or power plants. I can assure you , that is not the case. While unaware of which particular incident you CLAIM occured, several explanations come to mind.

1. I never happened. It's nothing more than anti- US propaganda.

2. It happened, was actually attacked, intentionally, by those who want to put the US in a bad light. This sort of thing has occured before, when a market was bombed during the war by Iraq who then tried to blame it on the US.

3. It was an accidental hit on a building by a stray bomb. During war, such events happen. Collateral damage. There is little to no reason we'd attack a hospital on purpose, for the obvious reasons. It's not a military target, we do far more damage than good taking out civilians when taking out military targets is kinda the whole point. Especially if we plan on sticking around for a while, why piss off the locals more than ya need to? An intact, standing hospital does far more to foster good will than a blown up one.

4. Terrorist or enemy soliders were using the hospital as cover while attacking our forces. They did that to the mosques, why not a hospital? In that even, a choice has to be made, weigh the risk to benefit and then make the tough choice.

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Yeah, I did suggest you were projecting your views onto others, but that was simply me trying to figure out what world you're living. I not only claim to have 'figured you out', i really don't care. It's just that you make so many wild assumptions to how and what I think......it's comical.

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So projecting my views, I'm someone who can't see anything 'wrong' done by Republicans? because basically thats the only thing I've been 'projecting' on to you

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What is funny is how some prefer to ignore the issue and play the ' Yeah, but the Republicans.... ' game, as if that changes one gorram thing in Ms McKinney's case. It does not.

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Yep, that's her. That's my girl. My Representative in the United States Congress, Cynthia McKinney.

She's a complete disgrace, and I hope she is tossed out on her ass.

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Boortz: Rep. McKinney "looks like a ghetto slut"

On the March 31 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio program, Neal Boortz said that Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) "looks like a ghetto slut." Boortz was commenting on a March 29 incident in which McKinney allegedly struck a police officer at a Capitol Hill security checkpoint. Boortz said that McKinney's "new hair-do" makes her look "like a ghetto slut," like "an explosion at a Brillo pad factory," like "Tina Turner peeing on an electric fence," and like "a shih tzu." McKinney is the first African-American woman elected to Congress from Georgia.

www.mediamatters.org/items/200603310005

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"Hell, who doesn’t get called a racist from time to time? It’s the all-purpose weapon to be used against any person who doesn’t toe the leftist line on matters of race. Ninety-nine percent of the people who throw charges of racism around can’t even define the term. Simply put – racism is the belief in the inherent, genetic superiority of one race over another, and the corresponding belief in the right of the superior race to dominate the inferior one. People often get racism mixed up with bigotry or prejudice."
-Neal Boortz (attorney at law, aka Randy Neal)

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And it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out unto his brethren, and looked on their burdens: and he spied an Egyptian smiting an Hebrew, one of his brethren. And he looked this way and that way, and when he saw that there was no man, he slew the Egyptian, and hid him in the sand.
-Exodus 2:11-12, Christian Bible, Torah, Koran

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come over Jordan into the land of Canaan; Then ye shall appoint you cities to be cities of refuge for you; that the slayer may flee thither, which killeth any person at unawares. And they shall be unto you cities for refuge from the avenger; that the manslayer die not, until he stand before the congregation in judgment. And of these cities which ye shall give six cities shall ye have for refuge.
-Numbers 35:9-13, Christian Bible

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Copsters murder dozens while employed as hitmen assassins for Mob

Justice comes 20 years after jeweler's murder - Victim's daughters in court for conviction of 'Mafia cops'

CNN
April 7, 2006

NEW YORK (AP) -- In 1986, an unassuming jeweler named Israel Greenwald was secretly shot to death inside a Brooklyn garage and buried.

Twenty years later, his family celebrated justice at the conviction of two retired police detectives who had doubled as hit men for the mob.

The guilty verdicts Thursday for "Mafia cops" Louis Eppolito and Steven Caracappa closed perhaps the most astonishing police corruption case in the city's history.

The ex-detectives, who had been highly decorated and praised by their New York Police Department colleagues, were secretly on the payroll of Luchese underboss Anthony "Gaspipe" Casso starting in the mid 1980s.

The federal jury deliberated for two days in the case against Eppolito and Caracappa, who spent a combined 44 years on the force and once worked as partners. The pair were immediately jailed after the verdict and face up to life in prison.

Eppolito, 57, whose father was a member of the Gambino crime family, and Caracappa, 64, were respected detectives who moonlighted as hired killers for Casso between 1986 and 1990.

Casso, a remorseless mobster responsible for 36 slayings, reportedly tortured and killed Jimmy Hydell in September 1986.

The most shocking murder involved bad information provided by the detectives about another suspect in the Casso case. The tip led to the mistaken-identity murder of an innocent man killed as his mother washed the dishes following a Christmas Day family dinner.

In two of the slayings, they used their police credentials to make traffic stops that ended with the driver killed.

Mobster slain in traffic stop

Prosecutors charged that the two used their positions as crime fighters to aid the mafia family -- at a price of $4,000 a month.

Their salary increased when the detectives personally handled the killing, authorities said; they earned $65,000 for the slaying of mobster Eddie Lino during a phony traffic stop.

In court, a parking lot attendant described publicly for the first time how Eppolito stood guard while he was forced to dig a grave for the victim or face a bullet himself.

www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/07/mafiacops.victim.ap/index.html?section=cnn_
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"Mayor Giuliani — a former federal prosecutor who won notice for 'pursuing' the Mafia — had relatives linked to organized crime, including a mobbed-up cousin who was gunned down by FBI agents in 1977, a new book says. Lewis D'Avanzo, a son of the mayor's uncle and a guest at Giuliani's first wedding in 1968, was a 'ruthless and widely feared mob associate' who headed a massive stolen car ring, according to FBI documents and interviews detailed in Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, by Village Voice senior editor Wayne Barrett. Due in stores next week, the book sketches a largely unflattering portrait of the clan, depicting his father, Harold, as a hothead and the "muscle" behind a brother-in-law's loansharking operation, run out of a Brooklyn bar. Along with cracking heads, it says the mayor's father served time in state prison for a stickup, rarely held an on-the-books job and once was a gunman in a mob shootout in Brighton Beach, Brooklyn. According to the book, Giuliani's cousin Lewis D'Avanzo was known as "Steve the Blond" and listed as armed and dangerous in FBI bulletins. His criminal record included a 10-year federal sentence for the armed hijacking of a truck loaded with $240,000 worth of mercury. The book alleges that he was suspected of taking part in several murders. D'Avanzo was gunned down by the FBI in October 1977, when he tried to run down an agent after being stopped on a warrant that accused him and two associates of transporting 100 stolen luxury cars. Quoting an unnamed friend of D'Avanzo, the book describes a 1962 shootout pitting a local mobster against the mayor's father and Leo D'Avanzo, Lewis D'Avanzo's father. The book says Leo was later sanctioned by mob bosses for shooting at a Mafia member. Leo D'Avanzo, who was known in family circles as a black sheep, ran loansharking and gambling operations out of a Brooklyn bar where Giuliani's father worked as a bartender. In his role as debt collector, his father 'broke legs, smashed kneecaps, crunched noses.' Joan Ellen D'Avanzo, a cousin who at one time lived with Giuliani when he was a youngster, became a drug addict who was beaten to death in 1973 at age 34. Her cause of death was listed as undetermined, but several family members said she was murdered."
—Michael R. Blood, New York Daily News, "Rudy's Kin Tied to Mob", July 06, 2000

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BATTLE OF ATHENS, TENNESSEE

As Recently As 1946, American Citizens Were Forced To Take Up Arms As A Last Resort Against Corrupt Government Officials

Guns & Ammo
October 1995

On August 1-2, 1946, some Americans, brutalized by their county government, used armed force as a last resort to overturn it. These Americans wanted honest open elections. For years they had asked for state or federal election monitors to prevent vote fraud (forged ballots, secret ballot counts and intimidation by armed sheriff's deputies) by the local political boss. They got no help.

These Americans' absolute refusal to knuckle under had been hardened by service in World War II. Having fought to free other countries from murderous regimes, they rejected vicious abuse by their county government.

These Americans had a choice. Their state's Constitution -- Article 1, Section 26 -- recorded their right to keep and bear arms for the common defense. Few "gun control" laws had been enacted.

These Americans were residents of McMinn County, which is located between Chattanooga and Knoxville in Eastern Tennessee. The two main towns were Athens and Etowah. McMinn County residents had long been independent political thinkers. For a long time they also had: accepted bribe-taking by politicians and/or the sheriff to overlook illicit whiskey-making and ; financed the sheriff's department from fines-usually for speeding or public drunkenness which promoted false arrests; and put up with voting fraud by both Democrats and Republicans.

The wealthy Cantrell family, of Etowah, backed Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the 1932 election, hoping New Deal programs would revive the local economy and help Democrats to replace Republicans in the county government. So it proved.

Paul Cantrell was elected sheriff in the 1936,1938 and 1940 elections, but by slim margins. The sheriff was the key county official. Cantrell was elected to the state senate in 1942 and 1944; his chief deputy, Pat Mansfield, was elected sheriff. In 1946 Paul Cantrell again sought the sheriff's office.

At the end of 1945, some 3,000 battle-hardened veterans returned to McMinn County; the GIs held Cantrell politically responsible for Mansfield's doings. Early in 1946, some newly returned ex-GIs decided to challenge Cantrell politically by offering an all-ex-GI, non-partisan ticket. They promised a fraud-free election, stating in ads and speeches that there would be an honest ballot count and reform of county government.

At a rally, a GI speaker said, "The principles that we fought for in this past war do not exist in McMinn County. We fought for democracy because we believe in democracy but not the form we live under in this county" (Daily Post-Athenian, 17 June 1946, p.1 ). At the end of July 1946, 159 McMinn County GIs petitioned the FBI to send election monitors. There was no response. The Department of Justice had not responded to McMinn County residents' complaints of election fraud in 1940, 1942 and 1944.

FROM BALLOTS TO BULLETS

The primary election was held on August 1. To intimidate voters, Mansfield brought in some 200 armed "deputies." GI poll-watchers were beaten almost at once. At about 3 p.m., Tom Gillespie, an African- American voter was told by a sheriff's deputy that he could not vote. Despite being beaten, Gillespie persisted. The enraged deputy shot him. The gunshot drew a crowd. Rumors spread that Gillespie had been shot in the back; he later recovered (C. Stephen Byrum, The Battle of Athens, Paidia Productions, Chattanooga, TN, 1987; pp. 155-57).

Other deputies detained ex-GI poll-watchers in a polling place, as that made the ballot counting "Public" A crowd gathered. Sheriff Mansfield told his deputies to disperse the crowd. When the two ex-GIs smashed a big window and escaped, the crowd surged forward. The deputies, with guns drawn, formed a tight half-circle around the front of the polling place. One deputy, "his gun raised high...shouted: 'If you sons of bitches cross this street I'll kill you!'" (Byrum, p.165).

Mansfield took the ballot boxes to the jail for counting. The deputies seemed to fear immediate attack by the "people who had just liberated Europe and the South Pacific from two of the most powerful war machines in human history" (Byrum, pp. 168-69).

Short of firearms and ammunition, the GIs scoured the county to find them. By borrowing keys to the National Guard and State Guard armories, they got three M-1 rifles, five .45 semi-automatic pistols and 24 British Enfield rifles. The armories were nearly empty after the war's end. By 8 p.m. a group of GIs and "local boys" headed for the jail but left the back door unguarded to give the jail's defenders an easy way out.

Three GIs alerting passersby to danger were fired on from the jail. Two GIs were wounded. Other GIs returned fire.

Firing subsided after 30 minutes; ammunition ran low and night had fallen. Thick brick walls shielded those inside the jail. Absent radios, the GIs' rifle fire was uncoordinated. "From the hillside fire rose and fell in disorganized cascades. More than anything else, people were simply shooting at the jail" (Byrum, p.189).

Several who ventured into the street in front of the jail were wounded. One man inside the jail was badly hurt; he recovered. Most sheriff's deputies wanted to hunker down and await rescue. Governor McCord mobilized the State Guard, perhaps to scare the GIs into withdrawing. The State Guard never went to Athens. McCord may have feared that Guard units filled with ex-GIs might not fire on other ex-GIs.

At about 2 a.m. on August 2, the GIs forced the issue. Men from Meigs County threw dynamite sticks and damaged the jail's porch. The panicked deputies surrendered. GIs quickly secured the building. Paul Cantrell faded into the night, having almost been shot by a GI who knew him, but whose .45 pistol had jammed. Mansfield's deputies were kept overnight in jail for their own safety. Calm soon returned. The GIs posted guards. The rifles borrowed from the armory were cleaned and returned before sunup.

THE AFTERMATH: RESTORING DEMOCRACY

In five precincts free of vote fraud, the GI candidate for sheriff, Knox Henry, won 1,168 votes to Cantrell's 789. Other GI candidates won by similar margins.

The GI's did not hate Cantrell. They only wanted honest government. On August 2, a town meeting set up a three-man governing committee. The regular police having fled, six men were chosen to police Etowah. In addition, "Individual citizens were called upon to form patrols or guard groups, often led by a GI... To their credit, however, there is not a single mention of an abuse of power on their behalf" (Byrum, p. 220).

Once the GI candidates' victory had been certified, they cleaned up county government, the jail was fixed, newly elected officials accepted a $5,000 pay limit and Mansfield supporters who resigned were replaced.

The general election on November 5 passed quietly. McMinn County residents, having restored the rule of law, returned to their daily lives. Pat Mansfield moved back to Georgia. Paul Cantrell set up an auto dealership in Etowah. "Almost everyone who knew Cantrell in the years after the Battle' agree that he was not bitter about what had happened" (Byrum pp. 232-33; see also New York Times, 9 August 1946, p. 8).

The 79th Congress adjourned on August 2, 1946, when the Battle of Athens ended. However, Representative John Jennings Jr. from Tennessee decried McMinn County's sorry situation under Cantrell and Mansfield and the Justice Department's repeated failures to help the McMinn County residents. Jennings was delighted that "...at long last, decency and honesty, liberty and law have returned to the fine county of McMinn.. " (Congressional Record, House; U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, D.C., 1946; Appendix, Volume 92, Part 13, p. A4870).

THE LESSONS OF ATHENS

Those who took up arms in Athens, Tennessee, wanted honest elections, a cornerstone of our constitutional order. They had repeatedly tried to get federal or state election monitors and had used armed force so as to minimize harm to the law-breakers, showing little malice to the defeated law-breakers. They restored lawful government.

The Battle of Athens clearly shows how Americans can and should lawfully use armed force and also shows why the rule of law requires unrestricted access to firearms and how civilians with military-type firearms can beat the forces of government gone bad.

Dictators believe that public order is more important than the rule of law. However, Americans reject this idea. Brutal political repression is lethal to many. An individual criminal can harm a handful of people. Governments alone can brutalize thousands, or millions.

Law-abiding McMinn County residents won the Battle of Athens because they were not hamstrung by "gun control " They showed us when citizens can and should use armed force to support the rule of law.

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www.jpfo.org/athens.htm

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Your lack of context is misleading when you say that "some people want to change this post into what about the republicans," and your disingenuous statements suggesting that you don't care who commits the crime, are no longer going to be given the benefit of the doubt by me.

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But you and your buddies did sure play the "See this is what all Liberals are like card!" didn't they.

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And I said you and your buddies. Go read what Hero said, good attempt at wriggeling out of it though.

However saying "this is what Liberals are like" denotes all, notice the s at the end of Liberal. Clarifying her as a Liberal especially once you are talking about her wrong doings means your sentence is exactly implying what I said it does.

Like if they caught some mass murder and on the news they said "...killed 50 people and voted Republican". As if you wouldn't have something to say about that.

Sorry spin it however you want but the English language is not on your side .

In fact the sentence "See this is what Liberals are like", means exactly the same thing as "See this is what all Liberals are like". Don't they teach English in American schools? Or did it just go over your head? Is it time for the crayon and pop up edition already?

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Yeah you erm, did that one all ready, sayin' it twice twice don't make it no smarter smarter.

If you want to sound clever it's probably best if you let me write your material, no what I'm sayin' cup cake.

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Logical conclusion:
You agree with Hero's comments, since we know you read them and don't see turning this event in to an "all Liberals are evil/morally corrupt/etc" bashing session as off topic.

You disagree with the idea that Liberals aren't at fault for everything and disagree with the idea that people you disagree with have the right to state their case or defend themselves on 'your' thread.

So here's your move:
Tell me how you'd interpret your reaction with out the Liberal use of insults.

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You, once again, assume too much. I did NOT read HERO's , or everyone else's post, as a matter of practice. ( No offense meant to HERO ) But as I've explained before, when a thread gets so long winded as this, I find it tedious to read and follow each and every tangent. Your ILLogical conclusion that I let HERO speak for me is at the heart of your false comprehension of the issue. You've got it all wrong, boy! How would I interpret my own reaction w/ out blah blah blah insults? I suppose like I usually do, w/ out insulting anyone who doesn't insult me first ?

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I gave you a chance to reasonably defend yourself, you know defence with out irrelevant erroneous insults . You didn't take it. That's your choice as well.

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I've got nothing to defend myself from. Your delusional,baseless charges aren't worth my time in the first place. I was just setting the record straight that you've been making false charge after false charge, and I've clearly shown this to be the case. Sorry, but the world outside your mind does not always follow the script you have INSIDE you mind.

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McKinney fiasco shakes Capitol Police, officer knew her



By Robert Redding Jr.
Redding News Review
April 18, 2006

WASHINGTON - A source said an officer, who says Rep. Cynthia McKinney struck him in the chest with a closed fist, knew who she was, and claims the incident has caused infighting among U.S. Capitol Police.

The source, who is close to the ongoing grand jury investigation of the March 29 scuffle, said Paul McKenna, a third year officer in the U.S. Capitol Police, was given a picture of the congresswoman in training.

"No one believes that a man with a name that similar to hers would not know who she is," the source told Redding News Review. "He clearly knew who she was and what she looked like but stopped her anyway."

McKinney faces charges that she assaulted McKenna, who the source says is white, while entering a House office building last month. The Democrat, who has changed her hairstyle from her trademark cornrows, has said she was not wearing proper identification.

She has since apologized for the misunderstanding, which she first hinted may have been racism.

The source - who did not want to be identified in fear that they might lose their job - also said that the incident has resulted in "fighting and heated arguments between white and black officers."

"This case is tearing the department apart," the source said. "The blacks say the whites were screwing with her, but the white officers are saying that she should have stopped."

Sgt. Kimberly Schneider, a Capitol Police spokeswoman, denies that there is dissention among black and white officers.

"It sounds more like like gossip rather than fact," said the spokeswoman, who would not deny whether officers had been recently reprimanded for fighting.

She also referred all question about whether McKinney was recognized by McKenna to the U.S. Attorney's office, which is investigating the case.

The department, which protects Congress, has had a history of rifts between its black and white officers dating back to 2001. There is currently a class action complaint still pending.

www.reddingnewsreview.com/newspages/2006newspages/mckinney_police_infi
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Anderson Cooper: A pointed image. Well, immigration wasn't the only border issue in Washington, D.C. this week. Georgia representative Cynthia McKinney had an altercation with a Capitol Hill police officer, who refused her entry into the Capitol Building, when she refused to show proper identification. Joining us now - Congresswoman McKinney.

Cynthia McKinney: Yeah, thank you, Anderson.

Anderson Cooper: So, what exactly happened, Congresswoman?

Cynthia McKinney: Anderson, this was just a big to-do about a hairdo.

Anderson Cooper: Well, let me apologize in advance for this not rhyming - but I think it was a big to-do about you slapping a police officer in the face.

Cynthia McKinney: Anderson, let me ask you this: what black woman in her right mind would want to go into the Capitol if she didn't have to? I mean, we're talking about a building full of rich, old, white men, Anderson. It wasn't like I was trying to get into a Peabo Bryson concert!

Anderson Cooper: But you do admit you weren't wearing your Congressional pin. There are 535 members of Congress. You can't expect a police officer to remember all of you.

Cynthia McKinney: Here's the deal, Anderson Cooper: There's 535 members of Congress - only 84 of them are black; and only 14 of them are women; and only one of them looks this crazy when she goes walking down the steps. Remember my face!!

Anderson Cooper: So you do admit to slapping the police officer?

Cynthia McKinney: What do you want, Anderson? I apologized already. Do not make me feel like a Mexican trying to cross the border when I go to work! You put a police officer in my way, and I will slap him! If you put that police officer, and he has a dog, I will slap that dog!! I am going to work, Momma's gettin' paid!

Anderson Cooper: Interesting take.

Cynthia McKinney: Don't you sass me, Anderson Cooper! I will slap that Kiehl's moisturizer off your face, Anderson Cooper!

Anderson Cooper: Well, that's all the time we have. Coming up next: a very special Lou Dobbs Report, where Lou goes to an Indian restaurant, strips to his waist and offers to take on any waiter who "dares to try it." And, "Live, from New York, it's Saturday Niiiiiiiiiiiighttttt!!!"

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/05/05o360.phtml

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Statement by Representative Cynthia McKinney read at the National Day of Action for Immigrant Justice

Día Nacional de justicia al inmigrante:10 de Abril, 2006

Dear Friends:

Congratulations on taking to the streets and standing up to make America a better country for all of us.

I stand with you in solidarity as you fight for dignity and justice.

Thousands of constituents have participated in our District Days and many of them have told us that the bills that are currently before Congress and on Sonny Perdue's desk, are more about hate than about a policy that is fair to all the stakeholders on the immigration issue.

I voted against HR 4437, the so-called Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005.

www.house.gov/mckinney

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Bush would have vetoed it anyway.


www.mackwhite.com

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