Go Illinois ! HJR0125 by STDOUBT

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Go Illinois ! HJR0125

POSTED BY: STDOUBT
UPDATED: Sunday, April 23, 2006 23:07
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Friday, April 21, 2006 6:41 PM

Illinois Representatives
Karen A. Yarbrough
Sara Feigenholtz
Eddie Washington
...be representin'

http://www.tinyurl.com/nhs3r

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Friday, April 21, 2006 6:46 PM

STDOUBT

What the hell.... Full Text:

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1
HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION

2 WHEREAS, Section 603 of Jefferson's Manual of the Rules of
3 the United States House of Representatives allows federal
4 impeachment proceedings to be initiated by joint resolution of
5 a state legislature; and

6 WHEREAS, President Bush has publicly admitted to ordering
7 the National Security Agency to violate provisions of the 1978
8 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, a felony, specifically
9 authorizing the Agency to spy on American citizens without
10 warrant; and

11 WHEREAS, Evidence suggests that President Bush authorized
12 violation of the Torture Convention of the Geneva Conventions,
13 a treaty regarded a supreme law by the United States
14 Constitution; and

15 WHEREAS, The Bush Administration has held American
16 citizens and citizens of other nations as prisoners of war
17 without charge or trial; and

18 WHEREAS, Evidence suggests that the Bush Administration
19 has manipulated intelligence for the purpose of initiating a
20 war against the sovereign nation of Iraq, resulting in the
21 deaths of large numbers of Iraqi civilians and causing the
22 United States to incur loss of life, diminished security and
23 billions of dollars in unnecessary expenses; and

24 WHEREAS, The Bush Administration leaked classified
25 national secrets to further a political agenda, exposing an
26 unknown number of covert U. S. intelligence agents to potential
27 harm and retribution while simultaneously refusing to
28 investigate the matter; and

29 WHEREAS, The Republican-controlled Congress has declined

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1 to fully investigate these charges to date; therefore, be it

2 RESOLVED, BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES OF THE
3 NINETY-FOURTH GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THE
4 SENATE CONCURRING HEREIN, that the General Assembly of the
5 State of Illinois has good cause to submit charges to the U. S.
6 House of Representatives under Section 603 that the President
7 of the United States has willfully violated his Oath of Office
8 to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United
9 States; and be it further

10 RESOLVED, That George W. Bush, if found guilty of the
11 charges contained herein, should be removed from office and
12 disqualified to hold any other office in the United States.

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Friday, April 21, 2006 7:34 PM

REAVERMAN

Whoo!!! Fuck yeah!!!

It's about damn time!

You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.

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Friday, April 21, 2006 7:38 PM

SASSALICIOUS

Woot!

Just one state away from me . . .

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Friday, April 21, 2006 7:39 PM

KHYRON

Won't happen. It's too good to be true. The administration or the Republican-controlled senate will make this disappear.

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:17 AM

SERGEANTX

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:
Won't happen. It's too good to be true. The administration or the Republican-controlled senate will make this disappear.

And then the press, and the meek couch-sitter populace, will roll over and go back to sleep.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 3:22 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Utterly nonsensical and pointless. There is no case here, as Bush did nothing illegal. Not one of those so called charges is legitimate OR impeachable. He was well w/ in his power, there was no Geneva rules violated, the Valerie Plame case? ( HA! Even Scooter Libby isn't being charged for that! ) and there's not one damn bit of evidence suggesting there was any cooked intel. It's just another pointless waste of the public's time, $ and trust in their elected officials.

A sad and petty political stunt during a time when real events are occuring in the world. These clowns aren't even fit to hold seats on their local city councils.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 4:05 AM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
A sad and petty political stunt during a time when real events are occuring in the world. These clowns aren't even fit to hold seats on their local city councils.

Yeah, it seems pretty transparent. It will never pass the House Judiciary Committee, assuming it even passes Illinois legislation, and my guess is that is exactly what the authors expect to happen.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 5:49 AM

SERGEANTX

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Utterly nonsensical and pointless. There is no case here, as Bush did nothing illegal. Not one of those so called charges is legitimate OR impeachable. He was well w/ in his power, there was no Geneva rules violated, the Valerie Plame case? ( HA! Even Scooter Libby isn't being charged for that! ) and there's not one damn bit of evidence suggesting there was any cooked intel. It's just another pointless waste of the public's time, $ and trust in their elected officials.

* WAR IS PEACE
* FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 6:41 AM

ERIC

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm guessing these folks are from the Detroit area.

Uh...Detroit Illinois?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit,_Illinois

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:44 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Now this is one AU can believe in.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:58 AM

SASSALICIOUS

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Utterly nonsensical and pointless. There is no case here, as Bush did nothing illegal. Not one of those so called charges is legitimate OR impeachable. He was well w/ in his power, there was no Geneva rules violated, the Valerie Plame case? ( HA! Even Scooter Libby isn't being charged for that! ) and there's not one damn bit of evidence suggesting there was any cooked intel. It's just another pointless waste of the public's time, $ and trust in their elected officials.

I'm guessing these folks are from the Detroit area.

A sad and petty political stunt during a time when real events are occuring in the world. These clowns aren't even fit to hold seats on their local city councils.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

Bush did break the law with the wiretapping, there is no doubt about it. There are a number of Republican politicians that are against him on that one. Unfortunately, his administration successfully used the "OH MY GOD TERRORISTS" spin and people fell for it again because no one wants to be thought of as anti-american and that's exactly what you are if you criticize Bush & Co.

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Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:04 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by Eric:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:

I'm guessing these folks are from the Detroit area.

Uh...Detroit Illinois?

Was typing and listening to the radio. Meant to say Chicago. Been there even, cool city. Lots going for it, except for the politics.

Faux pas aside, it still doesn't dismiss the idiocy of their little effort. Clearly, Bush broke no laws.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:18 AM

STDOUBT

Quote:
Clearly, Bush broke no laws.

Right... And "We're making a better world.
all of them -better worlds..."

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:07 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by STDOUBT:
Quote:
Clearly, Bush broke no laws.

Right... And "We're making a better world.
all of them -better worlds..."

If you call a world were Islamo nut cases don't slit throats of unarmed flight attendents and pilots as they then hijack the plane and fly it into very large buildings " better ", then yes. Better worlds.

Think you you want, just don't murder innocents, and you'll be fine.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:09 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Utterly nonsensical and pointless. There is no case here, as Bush did nothing illegal. Not one of those so called charges is legitimate OR impeachable. He was well w/ in his power, there was no Geneva rules violated, the Valerie Plame case? ( HA! Even Scooter Libby isn't being charged for that! ) and there's not one damn bit of evidence suggesting there was any cooked intel. It's just another pointless waste of the public's time, $ and trust in their elected officials.

* WAR IS PEACE
* FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Bumper sticker slogans brought to you by SergeantX. Little words for little minds.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:23 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by STDOUBT:
Quote:
Clearly, Bush broke no laws.

Right... And "We're making a better world.
all of them -better worlds..."

Well of course, no people, no problem, AURaptor and Bush's logic is simple and transparent.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:50 AM

EARLY

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Utterly nonsensical and pointless. There is no case here, as Bush did nothing illegal. Not one of those so called charges is legitimate OR impeachable. He was well w/ in his power, there was no Geneva rules violated, the Valerie Plame case? ( HA! Even Scooter Libby isn't being charged for that! ) and there's not one damn bit of evidence suggesting there was any cooked intel. It's just another pointless waste of the public's time, $ and trust in their elected officials.

* WAR IS PEACE
* FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
* IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

Bumper sticker slogans brought to you by SergeantX. Little words for little minds.

Actually that was "bumper sticker slogans" brought to us by george orwell in 1984. Try reading it sometime.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:53 AM

CITIZEN

AURaptors not up to that reading level yet, though his teacher is happy with his progress with the Spot the dog books.

We should encourage him, not make fun.

Now AU, what type of ball does spot have? A ball, a big red ball! Yay well done!

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
AURaptors not up to that reading level yet, though his teacher is happy with his progress with the Spot the dog books.

We should encourage him, not make fun.

Now AU, what type of ball does spot have? A ball, a big red ball! Yay well done!

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

I undestand. You mock and ridicule others because you refuse to deal on an intellectually honest level. Why bother w/ the busy details when you can side step everything and just give out simplistic " he's a dummy " replies ?

So if my list of books read doesn't exactly match or exceed yours, I'm stupid ? Wow, that's a classic, specious arguement. Well done!

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:19 AM

CITIZEN

You're funny.

You seem to be suggesting it's actually possible for anyone to have an intellectual conversation with you.

That's hilarious.

You're a very funny guy, you know that?

Oh and one last thing, the fact that your stupid makes you stupid.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:34 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Oh and one last thing, the fact that your stupid makes you stupid.

Yes, I know you're a big stupid dumb dumb head. We've already established that fact.

Thanks for taking time to point that out to ..well, no one. We already knew that.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 7:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Uh... Rap? The fact that you're talking about freedom and haven't the remotest clue about the FAMOUS book "1984" is a little scary....

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Free as in freedom, not beer.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:15 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Uh... Rap? The fact that you're talking about freedom and haven't the remotest clue about the FAMOUS book "1984" is a little scary....

---------------------------------
Free as in freedom, not beer.

You're kidding, right ? Please tell me this is sarcasm.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:02 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Nope. Dead serious, bro.

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Free as in freedom, not beer.

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:00 PM

SERGEANTX

What's going on here??? I certainly see no reason to assume Auraptor didn't understand what I was alluding to. He just didn't agree, fair enough.

But I'm still pretty blown away how precisely the Bush administration is following the dystopian path laid out in the book. I re-read it recently and was stunned at how closely it paralleled the rise of the Straussian/Neo-cons. Even down to redefining words and playing technical games with the language. That's why I threw the quotes up there. Obviously AU disagrees, but I'm pretty sure he 'gets it'.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Sunday, April 23, 2006 11:07 PM

CITIZEN

Sie Sir sind ein unwissender Dummkopf des niedrigsten Kalibers.

Und sehr lustig.

Erhalten Sie es jetzt?

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