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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Come now SoupCatcher! Valid criticism is fine, but it's a PROVEN FACT that no one could have truly understood Katrina's effect on the levees, no matter how many may have correctly predicted it!

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Originally posted by Righteous9:

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you're saying the Administration's response to Katrina is that it has learned some lessons, and written a report on those lessons?

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Or do you have a link of actual improvements that have and are being made?

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Originally posted by wildbill:
At the risk of causing a distraction during a liberal circle-jerk:

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Originally posted by wildbill:
At the risk of causing a distraction during a liberal circle-jerk:

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
[BIf I had started this as a 'What has the Clinton administration done right' thread (And BOY could I have...), would it be a liberal circle-jerk then?

I mean, who do I have to to get this 'liberal' tag off my back?

I believe in the right to bear arms!
I believe in the death penalty for rapists and child molesters!
I believe in smaller government!
And I believe George Bush is a corporate toadie that cares nothing for the yacht-ownership-challenged!

Chrisisall, meaning 'toadie' in the nicest possible way, of course...

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Originally posted by PrairieDogg:
Somebody said this is the most reactionary administration. Yeah like that great liberal Roosevelt who sat on his hands while Hitler swallowed Poland, Austria...all the while Churchill (who, by the way, had been warning his country about the Nazis for 20 years) was asking for help, until the Japanese sank our Pacific fleet.

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Put down the bong and read a history book.

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Originally posted by PrairieDogg:
You people are, for the most part, self righteous, deluded, stoned, morons.
Americans have great allies. But we must place our interests above all else and take action to secure those interests.

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Originally posted by amIaLion:
Nowadays, I would rather have a cowboy in office who tried to do the right thing even if their plan did not go smoothly. Sound familiar?

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Originally posted by amIaLion:
Ok, but only if you take a course on basic grammar you gorram elitist. "Maybe you should read the those history books.." It does not surprise me one bit that you are sporting Simon's icon when you should be sporting Jayne's.

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Also if you were talking about America, where "most of the people wanted to join in on the side of the Nazis or stay the hell out" which America are you talking about?!?

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Originally posted by amIaLion:
I respect the fact that you want to try to have an open discussion about the Bush administration, but if you are going to praise those that agree with your politics and shoot down anybody that doesn't agree than why have a discussion at all?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

Also of great concern to Republicans is God Almighty, who, rather to my surprise, has been elected chairman of the Texas Republican Party. That's what they announced at the biannual convention in Fort Worth this week: "He is the chairman of the party." Sheesh, the Democrats couldn't even get Superman.

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Originally posted by amIaLion:

Trust me, there are plenty of things about the Bush administration that I don't like, but I have tried to point out what good, if anything, has come out of the last four years. I don't remember when this country's interest in politics, particularly the younger generation has been so high.

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Originally posted by amIaLion:
You need to read more history books. Please don't spew that revisionist history crap and actually do some research if you want to discuss history.

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Originally posted by citizen:

"The Japanese have a right to Hawaii. I would rather be in this war on the side of Germany than on the side of the British." Ellis Jones, speaking at a National Copperheads meeting, a group with strong ties to the America First Committee.
We must get ready for the next attack which must be made upon this communistic administration. Horace Haase of America First.

But actually I was also thinking of the German American Bund (not heard of that? you can read about it in those history books we've been talking about) which was hardly a small time movement.

Or maybe you'd like to talk about the Order of 76?

Or perhaps you'd prefer to discuss the Silver Shirts?

The Christian Mobilizers maybe?

Or there's the 1930's Republican party that employed many Nazi's high up in the national and state Republican party organisations. The Republican party of the time also had many links to the Nazi party in Germany.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Or we can talk about the Imperialistic English who "en-slaved" half the world as their "piggybank" or the more generally accepted term Commonwealth. That is of course after introducing syphillis et al but making up for it by saving all of the pagans from their own eternal damnation.

70 or 700 years ago, what is past is past man. But we should remember the past in order to better shape the future. Just doing my part in case any of you Brit's are starting to feel imperialistic again.

De-lurking to stir stuff up.

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Told UN.."We aim to misbehave!"..and followed through.

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I'm sure over the objections of his advisers, has taken upon himself the burden of changing the pronunciation of the word "terror".

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understands the Liberal / Muslim extremist paradox. And still protects liberals from this without their knowledge.

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Originally posted by kaneman:
...Kept buildings (over 50 stories high) erect and without fire(Cool in my manual).

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...Manned the ship as economy and financial markets rebounded(Presidents get blamed when these fault-er on their watch..they should also receive credit when they rebound)

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...Speaking of credits: LOVED MINE
...Told UN.."We aim to misbehave!"..and followed through.

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...I'm sure over the objections of his advisers, has taken upon himself the burden of changing the pronunciation of the word "terror".

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...Aids funding for Africa.

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Originally posted by amIaLion:
Congratulations, you are the king of knowing about obscure anti-semitic groups that were small time, compared to the overwhelming majority of people who just did not like the Nazis. It makes me wonder whether you are a neo-nazi sympathizer yourself to know so much about these groups. German American Bund was made up of ethnic Germans, it's a wonder why they would be so ethnocentric during a time like the Great Depression.
The Order of 76, Silver Shirts and the German American Bund are all overrated as far as their influence goes unless you believe fervently like you do in such noble causes such as fascism and anti-semitism. Next you are probably going to tell me that the Holocaust never happened. Do yourself a favor and visit the Holocaust museum here in D.C. Although it probably make neo-nazis like yourself squeamish. Don't bother replying, I won't be reading any more of your propaganda. Have a nice day.

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Originally posted by Chrisisall:
I don't get it, Citizen.
You have this strange ability to make peeps view you as something you totally aren't. Are these powers mostly mental?

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Originally posted by ShadowFLY:
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Originally posted by citizen:
The ad hominem attack against the English not withstanding (BTW as you say past in the past... how's the CURRENT American imperialistic kick going? Oh no wait you're spreading the light of democracy to the 'pagans' ) this has nothing to do with the topic of what I was talking about (which I recognise had nothing to do with original topic of this thread, but I didn't start off down that road...)

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I just merely replied to the anti-liberal hate-filled extremist right-wing rant...

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I'm sorry if pointing out that during the 1930's the Republican party had a fairly obvious Nazi connection upsets you to the point you need to bring my ancestry in too question, but frankly it's a fact, as is Britain’s Imperialist past and frankly you bringing it up doesn't bother me one little bit .

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Now for all the bad things you can say about Britain we've always stood up for our mates; which is how we got dragged into both World Wars. By comparison the States, erm hasn't. You got 'dragged' into the same conflicts by being attacked, because the prevailing opinion of the populace was that those wars were your allies 'problem' . Personally I think standing by your friends is a redeeming quality, maybe you have a different view?

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Disclaimer:
Much of what I just said is a little tongue in cheek, also a bit of a rebuke to the ad hominem on my country of origin, thought I'd better point that out in case you decided to spit the dummy like amIaLion.

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
As I have mentioned in two different threads, I am Canadian, Please do not assume that because I
may or may not disagree with you I must be an "Ugly American".

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I believe the term you were looking for is differing viewpoint.

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I was not trying to bother you in the least. I was merely trying to illustrate a point. It's good to see you can still carry on a reasonable discussion with someone without getting too personal. Oh and please try not to use that be all and end all argument of "well he started it".

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Thanks for the response. You managed to post without invoking the NAFTACAFTASHASTA or jew commie pirate... argument. And once again, people can disagree with you, it is their right. It is also their right not to be labled a "dummy" if that is the case.

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Originally posted by Sassalicious:
I read an interview with this guy in the Navy. He said the big navy ship was in the Gulf, waiting to go in. All the President would have had to say was "Go". And he was incapable of doing that.

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