Two Jews walk into a bar... by chrisisall

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Two Jews walk into a bar...

POSTED BY: CHRISISALL
UPDATED: Saturday, July 15, 2006 06:46
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Friday, July 14, 2006 12:13 PM

Title got yer attention, eh?

Really, my question is:
How many consider Israel the Holy Land, and how many consider it just a lot of dirt that's being fought over?

Can o'worms Chrisisall

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Friday, July 14, 2006 12:15 PM

RIVER6213

Get a job.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 12:19 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Being non-religious - historically interesting dirt.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 12:21 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by rue:
Being non-religious - historically interesting dirt.

Ditto.

Remember, Kiddies, you can't spell "QUAGMIRE" without "I", "R", "A", & "Q"!

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Friday, July 14, 2006 4:45 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

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"The basic reason for our opposition to an Independent Jewish state as that in prevailing circumstances the officially recognised representation of the Jewish people does not consider the authority of the Holy Law as binding in the public affairs of the Jewish people, and it is contrary to the wishes of G-d to create a Jewish State."
-Rabbi Yosef Tzvi Dushinsky, Statement to the U.N. Special Committee on Palestine 1947
www.JewsAgainstZionism.com

Since it's illegal invention in 1948, Israel has been in perpetual state of martial law and civil war against its own citizens.

Anti-Chrisitan non-Semitic "Jewish" Israeli gangster psychopaths declared genocidal world war this week, plus slaughter their own citizens with military massacres of unarmed civilians in Death Camps under martial law. How would YOU like a US military gunship helicopter or F-16 or B-52 explode YOUR house and cut YOUR children into little bitty peices and make you clean them out of YOUR trees? Every day is a Waco and Ruby Ridge in Israel.

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Israel Blasts Beirut Airport For Second Day
www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20060713/israel_lebanon_s
trikes_060714/20060714?hub=World

Robert Fisk Describes Israeli Slaughter Of Civilians
http://rense.com/general72/sise.htm

Major Escalation As Israel Blasts Beirut Suburbs
www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/13/mideast/index.html

Israel Bombards Beirut Amid Spiraling Attacks
www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/13/mideast/index.html

Oil Hits New High As Mideast Violence Escalates
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12400801/

Israel Blockades Lebanon
www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13817591.htm

Israeli Airstrike Collapses Palestinian Foreign Ministry Building
www.foxnews.com/story/0%2C2933%2C203237%2C00.html

Semite.
A member of a group of Semitic-speaking peoples of the Near East and northern Africa, including the ARABS, Arameans, Babylonians, Carthaginians, Ethiopians, Hebrews, and Phoenicians.
-Dictionary.com

It is racist anti-Semitism to attack Arabs. Jews are the world's most hateful anti-Semites, according to every dictionary.

Israeli Mossad founded Hamas as controlled-opposition.

Israel bombed, naplamed, machine gunned and torpedoed USS Liberty to lure USA into war with Egypt. So Israel probably attacks itself to blame the Pelestinians and neighbor nations to steal their real estate.
www.ussliberty.org

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USS Liberty after the Israeli attack

Pentagon pressed to probe Israeli war crimes

The survivors say the attack violated the Geneva Conventions regulating conduct of war. They also say that further crimes were committed when Israeli sailors fired at rescuers and firefighters on the ship's bullet-riddled deck and into rubber life rafts thrown into the water to rescue survivors.

www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9082

www.ussliberty.org/jimsbook.htm

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Dead in the Water: Israeli Sinking of the USS Liberty
During the Six-Day war, Israel attacked and nearly sank the USS Liberty, claiming mistaken identity. The truth turns out to be more sinister... Jewish President LBJ ordered Israel to sink the USS Liberty, "and send that goddamn ship to the bottom!" By BBC News
www.thedossier.ukonline.co.uk/video_cover-ups.htm

Israel has 400 nukes, and threatens to nuke Europe.

US citizen Rachel Corrie was murdered by Israeli Army buldozer while bullhorning to save the home of a Palestinian medical doctor in Israel
www.rachelcorrie.org

My Name is Rachel Corrie, a play composed from Corrie's journals and e-mails from Gaza and directed by British actor Alan Rickman, opened in London and ran until April 30, 2005, [23] before being revived in October 2005. The play was to be transported to the New York Theatre Workshop, but when it was postponed indefinitely, the English producers denounced the decision as "censorship" and withdrew the show.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Name_is_Rachel_Corrie

Where's the outrage?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Corrie

Eurotrash Khazarian AshkeNAZI non-Semitic fake "Jews" run Israeli govt, and genocided 100,000 Sephardic Semitic (Arab) Jews in Israel under US Govt contract to use deadly doses of radiation to "treat ringworm". Israel is just a White European beachhead in a new Crusade, to steal the Middle East for the New World Odor global dictatorship.

US director of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff is a CURRENT CITIZEN OF ISRAEL, as are most of Jr Bush's White House staff. Jr Bush signed a treaty with Israeli Mossad to allow Israel to assassinate any US citizen, without arrest, without trial ,without appeal. 100s of Israeli terrorists were arrested in USA after 9/11/2001, but were released and deported or allowed to leave USA, without torture in Gitmo.

Great Wall of Israeli Apartheid separates Arab Israeli citizens from Jewish Israeli citizens, paid for by US taxpayers
www.palestinercs.org/separation_wall.htm

Only "Jews" are allowed citizenship in Israel, NOT Christians, nor any other religion or philosophy. It is a felony in Israel to preach Christianity.

FTZ

Forget the lies of our oppressive Kaballistic Allied Governments.
-Huckster, The Message, Firefly

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org

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Friday, July 14, 2006 6:56 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Not holy to me.

There's a couple of brook trout streams in the Shenandoah I think highly of, however. Don't ask. I ain't sharing my holy ground.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, July 14, 2006 7:38 PM

ROCKETJOCK

Ah, Piratenews, giving schizoid paranoia a bad name, as usual.

"Two Jews walk into a bar..."

You'd think the second one would have ducked!

*Rimshot!*

As for Israel being "The Holy Land"--Yes, but--
since as a Pagan I believe all the universe is holy, that's nothing noteworthy.

But for all the stupidity and evil that has been done over some plot of dirt that one or more group consider especially sacred--

If I had absolute power, I would teleport all living beings a safe distance from Jerusalem and Mecca, and then drop asteroids on both of them.

Maybe that would teach all these supposed monotheists to stop making false Gods out of pieces of real estate.

"Throughout history, great minds have pointed towards a glorious goal, and said This is the place we should be -- this is the way we should face -- this is the direction we should travel. And not long after, a great many fools have said Look! It's a finger! A grand, glorious and holy finger! Let us all worship this wonderful finger." -- Attributed to Captain Jean-Luc Picard

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Friday, July 14, 2006 8:53 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN

A) I'm a Christian

B) I don't consider it holy

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
-try it out, I dare you

98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature

I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Friday, July 14, 2006 11:17 PM

22CLAWS

Entirely pointy.

Captain Obvious says, they're not fighting over the dirt.

22

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Friday, July 14, 2006 11:46 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY

It's just dirtisall, Chrisisall.

I have a letter written by my father during the war (the big one, you know, against the Fascists and all that) just after having marched (trucked) through what was then Transjordan, Tripolitania and Palestine. He says that "The Jews are doing some good work here".
So who threw the spanner in the works?
And who sold them the spanner?

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Friday, July 14, 2006 11:57 PM

CHOO1701

I don't see Israli as a "holy land". although iti s a place where three cultures have meet (Christianiy, Judasim and Islam) and possibly many others. And, like all countriesand nations in the world, it has its faults.

Like a couple of people said above its HISTORICALY (sp?) intersting.

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"Remember, always be yourself. Unless you suck."-Joss Whedon

ITES RULE!!!!

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:09 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.

I agree completely with Rocketjock.

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 3:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

I wonder how many folk who don't think that Israel to be the Jew's 'Holy Land' , but would recognize native American's claims that parts of the land they lived on were 'Sacred'.

Holy, sacred or not, doesn't matter to me. They're there now, and everyone else should get use to it and make the best of the situation. If you throw a stick at someone , don't get mad if they throw a bigger stick back at you.

btw....once PN interjects his nonsense in a thread, it's officially hijacked.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:22 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by RocketJock:

If I had absolute power, I would teleport all living beings a safe distance from Jerusalem and Mecca, and then drop asteroids on both of them.

Maybe that would teach all these supposed monotheists to stop making false Gods out of pieces of real estate.

RocketJock, you took the asteroids right out of my belt.

Worship life, not dirt Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:23 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Get a job.

Got one. Want it?

Glorious Retail Whizz Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:31 AM

CHRISISALL

Quote:
Originally posted by piratenews:

US citizen Rachel Corrie was murdered by Israeli Army buldozer while bullhorning to save the home of a Palestinian medical doctor in Israel

Wow, I had almost forgotten about that.
That was so effed-up.

Chrisisall

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Saturday, July 15, 2006 6:46 AM

FREMDFIRMA

Quote:
Originally posted by Choo1701:
I don't see Israli as a "holy land". although iti s a place where three cultures have meet (Christianiy, Judasim and Islam) and possibly many others. And, like all countriesand nations in the world, it has its faults.

I'll take "just dirt" for $500, Alex...

It's like a cultural 'fault-line' between the three, it seems, with resulting friction, heat, and earthquakes.

About the only time those three beliefs DIDN'T try to kill each other was under the Medina Compact.

I never understood why, if it's so historically, culturally, and theologically important to all three, why they've never deemed it 'neutral' turf (perhaps even under the auspice that God owns it and man doesn't?) instead of a hell-bent (pun-intended) rush to 'possess' it..

To quote Jayne "It just don't make no sense..."

-Frem

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