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There were few problems along the Israeli/Lebanese border until Hezbollah militants attacked an Israeli outpost.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
part of it is that Congress funnels huge amounts of money to them, and then AIPAC funnels it back into those members of Congress's campaign funds, which is an issue that damned well SHOULD be investigated thoroughly.

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There were few problems along the Israeli/Lebanese border until Hezbollah militants attacked an Israeli outpost.

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And where, exactly, did this idea come from ?
Show me a valid source, please.
(and not some Gannon-esque, Talon-News shill, something with actual press credentials)

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Gee, if Mexico send a squad of troops with a tank on combat patrol through Nogalez, Arizona, you can't tell me WE wouldn't be pissed about it.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

Then come back and tell me how friendly you are with your neighbor NOW.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I believe we call those "Redneck Assholes".
And there's a damned lot of em.
*shrug*

As I said, no matter how hard you bang the drum for one side or the other, they're equally nasty.

Geeze had a far better concept, and a big part of that is pressure on broadcast media to not be so critical of our so-called-ally... which over the years seems to have morphed into 'can do no wrong'.

That's like saying how horrible those french murders who killed 2 honorable members of the wermarcht are... without ever reporting on the fact that they were invaded by those folks.

Multiply that kind of biased reporting by 50 years, public perception is going to be likewise bent.

I am pretty sure that many of the middle eastern media do, and have done, much the same thing, in the other direction.

I'd like to see some real, politically-neutral coverage of the region for once, but my primary viewpoint on it is simple...

War is based on turf, when someone steps on YOUR turf and tries to take it, you kill em, and when you do, the other side has ZERO moral right to scream terrorism.

But if, instead, you wanna take sides, even with our so-called-ally... try this experiment then.

Uproot your fence and move it 2 feet further towards you neighbors house - and do it again about once every two months for a year.

Then come back and tell me how friendly you are with your neighbor NOW.

Oh, and if he puts your fence back, or kicks it down, blow his house up, salt his lawn, bulldoze his garage and set his car on fire.

Then come back and tell me how well liked you are in the neighborhood.

(This last bit is all facetious, so that we can clarify just HOW ridiculous any discussion of who started what is, and put a stake through the heart of that damned stupidity, be advised.)

-Frem

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U.S. official: Israel needs time to 'defang' Hezbollah

Secretary of State Rice won't travel to Mideast before next week
By Elise Labott

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not go on a peace mission to the Mideast before next week, giving Israel time to "defang" Hezbollah, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

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At the risk of sounding both angry and cynical (which of course I'm not) it seems to me that if Lebanon or Hizbollah had a clutch of nukes we'd be falling all over ourselves to make nice.

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So clearly Israel is facing all those Phantom WMD... and they are the especially dangerous kind of WMD because nobody can see them!

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One or more Iranians witnessed North Korea's recent missile tests, deepening U.S. concerns about growing ties between two countries with troubling nuclear capabilities, a top U.S. official said Thursday.

Asked at a U.S. Senate hearing about reports that Iranians witnessed the July 4 tests, Assistant Secretary of State Chris Hill, the chief U.S. negotiator with Pyongyang, replied: "Yes, that is my understanding" and it is "absolutely correct" that the relationship is worrisome.

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Originally posted by rue:
Hi Gino,

My starting position on the Israel/ Palestine question:

Take US military aid out of Israel since they can't be trusted with it. Make Israel comply with the UN's border mandates. Promise swift and terrible retribution to any surrounding state that attacks Israel.

What do you think?

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Originally posted by rue:
Hi Gino,

My starting position on the Israel/ Palestine question:

Take US military aid out of Israel since they can't be trusted with it. Make Israel comply with the UN's border mandates. Promise swift and terrible retribution to any surrounding state that attacks Israel.

What do you think?

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Who would carry this out? Not the UN. Fist many members could care less who attacks Israel. Secondly, they have proven its threats are weightless. The only way this will end is when the US stops holding Israel back militarily. Last time I checked Palestinians are the ones who keep breaking cease fires. Let Israel defend its sovereignty as we would...Be over before you knew it.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Bush Junior is making serious attempts to bring peace to the Mideast. Yeah.

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U.S. official: Israel needs time to 'defang' Hezbollah

Secretary of State Rice won't travel to Mideast before next week
By Elise Labott

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not go on a peace mission to the Mideast before next week, giving Israel time to "defang" Hezbollah, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

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At the risk of sounding both angry and cynical (which of course I'm not) it seems to me that if Lebanon or Hizbollah had a clutch of nukes we'd be falling all over ourselves to make nice.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Bush Junior is making serious attempts to bring peace to the Mideast. Yeah.

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U.S. official: Israel needs time to 'defang' Hezbollah

Secretary of State Rice won't travel to Mideast before next week
By Elise Labott

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will not go on a peace mission to the Mideast before next week, giving Israel time to "defang" Hezbollah, a senior administration official said Wednesday.

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At the risk of sounding both angry and cynical (which of course I'm not) it seems to me that if Lebanon or Hizbollah had a clutch of nukes we'd be falling all over ourselves to make nice.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
What I find exceptionally chucklesome was the reporting of Condi's visit to Rome. "Condi's Visit Ends in Failure- No Cease-Fire Agreement Reached"

Heh. Condi's visit was a complete success- she accomplished exactly what she set out to do.

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http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/28/us.britain/index.html


And the system works again (beat Geezer to it ).

De-lurking to keep thread current.

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Originally posted by antimason:
so they take Bushs word at face value when he claims hes a "born again Christian", and then they associate every action of his as being handed down from God as a grand order.

and if you care to spend even an hr looking into the occult, youll see that his name pops up more than once or twice.

but of course..you dont believe in a higher power, so the fact that Occultists worship lucifer is irrelevant, because none of it really exists, and these groups dont hold any sway; they are purely recreational....

except that in the last presidential election, our only 2 candidates were from the same occult organization. hmm? interesting coincidence i guess then huh........

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except that in the last presidential election, our only 2 candidates were from the same occult organization. hmm? interesting coincidence i guess then huh........

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this is the problem with secularists..
most have probably never even read the Bible, let alone understand its message..

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and if you care to spend even an hr looking into the occult, youll see that his name pops up more than once or twice.

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