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POSTED BY: OLDENGLANDDRY
UPDATED: Monday, September 4, 2006 20:59
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Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:54 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


O.K.
This whole PIRATENEWS thing is getting way out of hand on too many levels so heres an idea. It's been mentioned before several times but lets actually see if we can at least TRY to do it;

LETS IGNORE HIM.

If he starts a thread - Ignore it, dont reply however tempting it may be, just ignore it.
If he posts on your thread - Ignore it, dont reply, just ignore it.
Give him 100% blankage if only to see what happens.

What do you say?

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Sunday, July 2, 2006 10:57 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


I agree. That's what I've tried to do in the past. Just don't give a damn.
Remember this if you need inspiration:
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Monday, July 3, 2006 12:20 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Assuming that the moderator(s) can't intervene, ignoring someone is quite effective if it's done 100%.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 12:44 AM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Yes, but it will only work if everyone actually does it...
Although I still like my idea of enlisting Team Random. I don't think that would be as effective, though. Maybe it would, since he does have his supporters on this site. For some strange reason.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 4:50 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


I dont know if people are supporting PN or just the "free speech" angle, thats why I'm saying lets not try to shut him down or shut him up, just dont respond.
The gun wont go off if theres no ammo in it.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 5:32 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, I'm game. Count me in then.
The inet being what it is, I figure if I ever need a dose of PN I can always go to his website.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 8:26 AM

SERGEANTX


I'm not sure that approach will be very effective in this case. PN seems to have very little interest in interacting. I think its safe to say most of us have been ignoring him already. I'd hoped a reasonably polite request might appeal to a hypothetical better nature.

Anyway, ignore him, yeah I'm in.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, July 3, 2006 8:52 AM

CHRISISALL


Okay, I really REALLY tried to reach the dude with my last couple of posts. If he ain't better now (like he'd listen to me, yeah, right), then I'm on board with the ignoring.

Done with it Chrisisall

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Monday, July 3, 2006 9:11 AM

HERO


Quote:

Originally posted by oldenglanddry:
LETS IGNORE HIM.


We can try it. Its like ignoring that big burning ball of fire in the sky over there...don't look directly at the PN and all.

But ok. PN who?

H

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Monday, July 3, 2006 9:19 AM

MSG


I'd be happy to ignore him if I had any idea who the smack he was:)

I choose to rise instead of fall- U2

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Monday, July 3, 2006 10:19 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Count your blessings for the sheltered life you've led.
You will encounter him soon enough.

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Monday, July 3, 2006 5:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Does ignoring him make you a disgusting homo pedophile sodomite? Or is that honor bequeathed on you only if you try to actually *reason* with him?

OK, all in with the ignoring now. I'm going ignor-y.

Mike

A baby seal walks into a club...

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Tuesday, July 4, 2006 5:25 PM

SERGEANTX


To help us in our aim, I've written a little PN-cleaner that you all might want to try. Whenever you're following a thread that gets infected, all you need to do is copy a few lines of javascript directly into the address bar of your browser, hit 'go' and like magic, no more PN. Or better yet make a new bookmark and copy the script in for the url. Then just hit the link anytime you feel the need to clean house.

I'll send the code to anyone interested. I've been using and it works great.



SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, July 4, 2006 5:40 PM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Although I still like my idea of enlisting Team Random. I don't think that would be as effective, though. Maybe it would, since he does have his supporters on this site. For some strange reason.



Well, yeah--at last, someone PirateJenny can really relate to.

Oh, yeah, and I'm on board with the ignore thing. Just 'cause I'm a follower, though.

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Tuesday, July 4, 2006 5:53 PM

PHOENIXROSE

You think you know--what's to come, what you are. You haven't even begun.


Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
To help us in our aim, I've written a little PN-cleaner that you all might want to try. Whenever you're following a thread that gets infected, all you need to do is copy a few lines of javascript directly into the address bar of your browser, hit 'go' and like magic, no more PN. Or better yet make a new bookmark and copy the script in for the url. Then just hit the link anytime you feel the need to clean house.

I'll send the code to anyone interested. I've been using and it works great.



SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock


You must have skill! How do you do it? Sign me up for that! Maybe then I can start wandering around down here more...
You should just post it here. But if you don't wanna I understand that, too.

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Wednesday, July 5, 2006 1:30 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:


Does sticking my head in the sand make my butt look big?



Here's a tip: don't keep posting new threads in my name. Censorship is the sincerest form of flattery.

Good luck hijacking FFF. Sorry you're burnin in Hell Phoenixrose.

Quote:


Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation

Includes The 8 Traits of A Disinformationalist


by H. Michael Sweeney
www.MKZine.com
Spring/Summer 2003

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'

www.whale.to/m/disin.html
www.911review.org/Wiki/RulesOfDisinformation.shtml
www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html

Examples & response:
www.proparanoid.net/truth.htm


Take the bait. You know you wanna...


"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

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Wednesday, July 5, 2006 6:19 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Hey SergeantX,

Could you email me the code?

Whether you can or not - awesome work!

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Wednesday, July 5, 2006 1:41 PM

CAUSAL


Wow, this ignoring thing is a lot harder than I thought it would be.

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Wednesday, July 5, 2006 3:31 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


YOU CAN DO IT !

Going cold turkey is tough now, but think of the benefits later.


Oh, and I'm in too !

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Wednesday, July 5, 2006 4:30 PM

CAUSAL


Quote:

Originally posted by rue:
Going cold turkey is tough now, but think of the benefits later.



Heh.

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Saturday, July 22, 2006 8:29 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Just a reminder to everyone of our righteous cause.

Ignoring is bliss.

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Saturday, July 22, 2006 2:45 PM

FREMDFIRMA


It's all one to me, really - but if I have to listen to one extreme of the political spectrum here, I'd prefer to hear both, no matter how incoherent.

I think Sarge is talkin about a variation of the usenet killfile (a durned handy thing in all truth) and for thems that would like to use it more power to ya.

Even if I think it's out in left field, or straight from a bad acid trip, I still wanna hear that end of the spectrum, since although a bit more coherent, the other end has no better grasp of reality.

Capisce ?

If I have to hear one, I'll hear both - if it comes to neither, then there's no point in having a discussion here, cause if you never discuss with folks ya don't agree with, that's just *shrug* social talk.

There are more posters around than one that seem to have zero interest in rational discourse and seem kinda trollish, eh ?

-Frem

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Saturday, July 22, 2006 4:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Uh... who are we ignoring? I forget....

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Saturday, July 22, 2006 10:11 PM

GUYWHOWANTSAFIREFLYOFHISOWN


we're ignoring someone?

[ Mal ] huh [ /Mal ]



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-try it out, I dare you

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Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:03 AM

STINKINGROSE


It's always good for a laugh, or fodder for parody.
I just read my first posting by him/her and said "WTF was that?!" Then wondered how it had anything to do with Firefly, then wandered into this thread and said "oh, now I understand"
I'd ask for the filter but I wouldn't be able to figure out how to put it in.
I figure I'll scroll down whenever I see the name.
BTW I'm more concerned with the fact that the individual in question appears to be able to essentially google for threads with their name in it. "Speak not the name of the beast lest it appear" sort of thingy. This makes me worry about viruses being set up by them on the site. Please tell me there's an Alpha Geek on that already.
I can use that term, I married one. (:
But yeah, this is definitely someone looking for attention and the best way to deal with it for those of us who are technologically impaired is to not check out any threads with the name at the heading and do not engage.

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Monday, August 7, 2006 2:30 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Stay calm brothers

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Monday, August 7, 2006 9:36 AM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.


Quote:





That's hilarious!

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Monday, August 7, 2006 11:56 AM

PAGANPAUL


Have you noticed that "he who shall be ignored" hasn't posted since Monday, July 31, 2006 09:40? It seems to be working!

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Monday, August 28, 2006 8:38 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


He's back, so Bump.

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:23 PM

MISBEHAVEN



Ignoring PN has always worked for me. And curiously, I don't find it difficult at all.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

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Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:12 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Thanx 4 ignoring intelligent conversation. Losers. Now go watch your WWF on SciFi, where Firefly used to be.

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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:55 AM

CITIZEN


Quote:

Originally posted by misbehaven:

Ignoring PN has always worked for me. And curiously, I don't find it difficult at all.

Plus it's ever so funny seeing how upset he gets about it...



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:31 PM

DREAMTROVE


I was genuinely disgusted by this thread.

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Monday, September 4, 2006 8:59 PM

OLDENGLANDDRY


Bump again

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