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Jesus Camp

POSTED BY: SUCCATASH
UPDATED: Sunday, August 27, 2006 05:53
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Friday, August 25, 2006 4:36 AM

Jesus Camp looks like an interesting documentary. Here's a link to the movie trailer:

http://mp.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=2&pmmsid=1698058

There are two kinds of people in the world - people who love Jesus, and people who don't.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Friday, August 25, 2006 4:42 AM

SIMONWHO

I love Jesus. Christians on the other hand...

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Friday, August 25, 2006 4:45 AM

EMBERS

my feelings exactly, Simonwho

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Friday, August 25, 2006 4:53 AM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Is there any way we could get these folks and the radical Islamists together in one place and let 'em fight it out for the glory of God(s)? Maybe in Jerusalem, since it's holy to both faiths, and we could let the Zionists play as well. I'd be willing to chip in the cost of a couple of plane tickets (one way, or course).

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Friday, August 25, 2006 5:18 AM

FREMDFIRMA

I'll donate a couple cases of Wolf 7.62x39mm to the cause... man that ammo is craptastic, at least it'd be put to good use!

-Frem

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Friday, August 25, 2006 11:54 AM

CANTTAKESKY

Thanks for the link. I hope the movie does bring awareness to just how dedicated and huge the evangelical movement is. For the last 2 decades at least, they have become increasingly well organized and politically savvy. They want a theocracy, and they are not going to stop until they get it.

And unless we start taking them very very seriously, they ARE going to get it.

Former Fundie Can't Take My Goddamn F*cking Sky

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Friday, August 25, 2006 6:10 PM

DREAMTROVE

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Is there any way we could get these folks and the radical Islamists together in one place and let 'em fight it out for the glory of God(s)? Maybe in Jerusalem, since it's holy to both faiths, and we could let the Zionists play as well. I'd be willing to chip in the cost of a couple of plane tickets (one way, or course).

Now there's an idea!

Coming soon.... GODBOWL 2007 !

I recently saw something about indoctrinating muslim and jewish children. The Muslim children learn about the glory of fighting to stop the evil march of israel by blowing themselves up with a dogma-military training combo. The jewish children at camp signed their names on bombs that would be sent to kill arab children.

I like the godbowl idea. It can be a three way sport. Each team gets to pick their way through a minefield, don't worry, god will show them the way. Or pick up the pieces.

The three goals are the holiest part of Jerusalem for them, which has been converted into a giant stadium.

The ball itself is a bomb, and if you're left holding it when it the buzzer goes, then you get into the kingdom of heaven.

Millions of fans can watch and throw grenades from the sidelines which are sold like popcorn. Then the less fanatical than the jihadists/crusaders/zionists can get about their lives without having to deal with all this cr@p.

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Friday, August 25, 2006 7:47 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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Is there any way we could get these folks and the radical Islamists together in one place and let 'em fight it out for the glory of God(s)? Maybe in Jerusalem, since it's holy to both faiths, and we could let the Zionists play as well. I'd be willing to chip in the cost of a couple of plane tickets (one way, or course).

Now there's an idea!

Coming soon.... GODBOWL 2007 !

I recently saw something about indoctrinating muslim and jewish children. The Muslim children learn about the glory of fighting to stop the evil march of israel by blowing themselves up with a dogma-military training combo. The jewish children at camp signed their names on bombs that would be sent to kill arab children.

I like the godbowl idea. It can be a three way sport. Each team gets to pick their way through a minefield, don't worry, god will show them the way. Or pick up the pieces.

The three goals are the holiest part of Jerusalem for them, which has been converted into a giant stadium.

The ball itself is a bomb, and if you're left holding it when it the buzzer goes, then you get into the kingdom of heaven.

Millions of fans can watch and throw grenades from the sidelines which are sold like popcorn. Then the less fanatical than the jihadists/crusaders/zionists can get about their lives without having to deal with all this cr@p.

That was well said. Wasn't that well said?

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Thanks for the link. I hope the movie does bring awareness to just how dedicated and huge the evangelical movement is. For the last 2 decades at least, they have become increasingly well organized and politically savvy. They want a theocracy, and they are not going to stop until they get it.

And unless we start taking them very very seriously, they ARE going to get it.

Former Fundie Can't Take My Goddamn F*cking Sky

Good point, CTTS. They want a theocracy - and they'll be stepping over my dead body to get it.

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I'm a trouble-maker; Kaneman said so!

::points to 'I'm a trouble-maker' sticker on shirt and makes a platypus noise::

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:43 AM

CAUSAL

All I ask, people, is that you don't confuse actual followers of Jesus with this lot. These people scare me as much (and possibly more) than they scare you.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:48 AM

SUCCATASH

Quite scary, indeed.

Aug. 26, 2006
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060826/ap_on_el_se/senate_harris

U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris: "If you're not electing Christians, then in essence you are going to legislate sin, including abortion and gay marriage.

Separating religion and politics is wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers.

Oh my.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:52 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by Succatash:
Separating religion and politics is wrong because God is the one who chooses our rulers.

That almost sounds like a rant against democracy.

People don't chose their leaders, God does.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:45 PM

SUCCATASH

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Originally posted by citizen:
That almost sounds like a rant against democracy.

Not to get off topic, but I've often thought that pure Christianity is a lot like pure communism, where they believe that everyone is born with a plan, a special purpose. Christians are to serve each other and become one body (of Christ).

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 12:51 PM

CITIZEN

Communism and democracy aren't mutually exclusive, I can't think of a reason why you can't have a communist democracy. You can't have a democratic theocracy though.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:11 PM

ANTIMASON

its kind of diceptive to say that "God chooses our rulers". in the OT, God tried to deny the Jews a king, because power always corrupts. because it is said throughout scripture that "our fight is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, authorities and principalities"; Government was a punishment to the Jews, since they lacked the faith to live in harmony with God. now, many today would say "you get what you deserve", and that is more appropriate...i would say America deserves who we elect, because we tolerate and often fail to recognize their slimy corrupt morals and politics. but make no mistake, the message is clear that the world is against God; which includes the institutions presently at work decieving and subjugating the populace

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:33 PM

DREAMTROVE

Citizen,

You get to choose your leaders? How many britons actually voted for Tony Blair?

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:00 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
All I ask, people, is that you don't confuse actual followers of Jesus with this lot. These people scare me as much (and possibly more) than they scare you.

True, big huge difference between Christian and Fundie Christian.

But don't underestimate Fundies just because they look nuts. Fundie Christians are growing both in number and in power.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:21 PM

DREAMTROVE

Fundies are not the enemy, they're just being played. In part, they've negotiated an alliance, they don't want to be bombed, but in part, they're being played.

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Saturday, August 26, 2006 6:24 PM

CANTTAKESKY

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Fundies are not the enemy, they're just being played.

By whom? How? To what ends?

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:55 AM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Citizen,

You get to choose your leaders? How many britons actually voted for Tony Blair?

Enough to give Labour a thin majority. Which is why Blair is prime minister obviously.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:33 AM

DREAMTROVE

Not really. A bunch of people in Sedgefield chose tony blair, and a % of people in a % of districts chose labor, which is about 60% of 60% of those who voted. Blair manipulated the system to get himself into office. If it were open ballot rounds, and anyone could be elected, it probably wouldn't have been Tony. Even of MPs it wouldn't have been Blair.

At least, that what my british friends tell me.

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Sunday, August 27, 2006 5:53 AM

CITIZEN

Okay you don't seem to understand the British parliamentary governmental system. Blair isn't a president; people don't vote for Blair, they vote for his party, Labour.

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a % of people in a % of districts chose labor, which is about 60% of 60% of those who voted.

Well this proves my point 60% of the vote went to Labour (I think it was less than that but it's irrelevant so I won't bother looking it up). I.e. the majority of the vote went to Labour, they won the election. Democracy in action, that's how it works Dream, the party that gets the most votes wins. Maybe your confused because that’s not how it works in the US, I don’t know.

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Blair manipulated the system to get himself into office.

What by getting more votes than everyone else? That's how democracy is supposed to work.

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If it were open ballot rounds, and anyone could be elected, it probably wouldn't have been Tony.

Firstly in this country we don't have a president, no one voted for Tony Blair, they voted for the Labour party. Secondly we don't run a two party system over here; anyone CAN run for election, the government is formed of those who are voted into office. Take a look at a general election; the people running for office in any particular county will range from Tory/Labour/Lib Dem to Monster Raving Loony party.

Any one can be elected. All they have to do is run for election.

In this country we vote for parties, not people. The parties vote for who they want to put forward as the spokesman/figurehead of the party, if the party gains a majority in the house of commons that person becomes the Prime Minister.

We don't have a president here.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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