Bush assassination film by citizen

But then I could say that about a great many speculative history pieces, like every hollywood WW2 movie

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:04 PM

Something tells me that a man who cannot walk out of a room without help, who cannot chew food without choking and cannot complete a basic phrase without mangling it beyond recognition is not going to be much of a challenge for any would-be assassin.

However President Bush has a protection beyond the Secret Service, beyond respect for human life, beyond bullet proof vests. It is these two words that doubtlessly have saved his life these past few years.

President Cheney.

I suspect this is something the film will address. Presumably it will therefore be classified as a horror.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:35 PM

I haven't seen the film, but speculation is always good. I think, given what happened to this country in the great 'throwing in the trash of the bill of rights' after 9-11, if the president got assassinated, we would all be seriously f^&ked. It's something that should be speculated about. Anything that could effect social change is. It's what science fiction is about. The more possible the event,m the more valid the speculation. "what if tall people had godlike powers" is a dumb idea not worth a lot of speculation, but "what if someone engineers a retrovirus that turns us all into monkeys" is interesting, because it could happen. So, sure.

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 2:00 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Well at least we know now that the FBI will soon become Browncoats. What with the search string for people threatening certain people.

Um Citizen - Best you not use your real name - might find yourself questioned at customs!

Too funny!

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:21 PM

MISBEHAVEN

Well, I'm certainly not a fan of George Bush, but I'm not entirely comfortable with a film depicting the assassination of a sitting President. That said, I don't think it should be censored anymore than I think the Clinton docudrama should be censored. The film will likely raise some interesting questions to be sure, but you can count on Republicans to spin this movie for their own purposes, as they will probably use it to help galvanzie their base before the elections. And as much as I loathe Bush, the last thing I want to see is him assassinated. Revisionist historians would undoubtedly depict him as a magnificent leader and a champion of freedom, and not the inept jackass that he is.

"The only thing that will redeem mankind is cooperation."
-Bertrand Russell

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 3:52 PM

America loves a winner!

When a political group ( The Left ) is so utterly bankrupt of ideas and has become so completely irelevent, this is the depths which some are willing to sink.

I believe this crosses the line of 'responsible' free speech,and that if the writers/ directors of this movie step foot in the US, they should be detained. Threatening the life of a sitting President,(which is clearly exactly what this movie depticts ) is against US law. They can dress it up any way they want, as 'an exercise in thought provoking fiction', or what ever the hell they call it, I call it down right evil. We don't need a 'fictional' national tragedy to amuse some pin headed fascination as to how a nation copes w/ another crisis. A generation before mine dealt w/ the assassination of JFK. Where were you when you heard the news... . Virtually every man and woman who was alive then can tell us exactly where they were, and what they were doing. Since then, we've had single events which brought the nation to tears, none the least of which was 9/11.

Given today's climate in the world, with Islamo-fascist murdering folks all over the globe, this is the most dispicable and reckless piece of shit I've ever heard.

Suppose someone does a 'fictional' film depicting the murder of someone close to the director, or the producers ? Perhaps the violent rape and mutilation of a mother, wife, or daughter ? How 'introspective' do you think THAT movie would be viewed?

I give them credit for at least choosing a leader from a FREE nation. Theo Van Gogh's death taught them not to make snuff films about Islamic leaders. Those folks don't take even the most vague or 'sophisticated' criticisms very well at all. Seems certain folks, UBL, Saddam, Iran's President, all are granted a pass for their deeds.

Then again, Matt Stone and Trey Parker didn't show any fear in the making of Team America!

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 11:59 PM

SIMONF

I read a lot of bitter blog entries about this film. The only thing I can advise is that people watch the makers' previous fake documentary "The Day Britain Stopped" which was made for British TV. Despite being of a sensationalist theme, it was extremely well made and was told in a very matter of fact way. (which did make it kinda boring in some parts) and there was no evidence (to me at least) of any bias towards the left or right.

I think once people see the Death of a President film, they will wonder what all the fuss was about.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:37 AM

At least we know where Auraptor stands: presenting false information as historical fact - acceptable. Presenting a fictional possibility - unacceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he disapproves of - acceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he approves of - unacceptable.

And he doubtlessly sees no problem there either.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:58 AM

FREMDFIRMA

This issue was actually rather thoroughly debated at a convention I was present at once, and I guess I'll offer my input here, as I did then.

First and foremost, you can't cack the POTUS.

I mean, you could, but it's the most self-destructive and useless action you could possibly take to make any social or political change, and I highly doubt even the most bitter and hardened of terrorists would do so - not only do they risk his replacement with someone actually competent, but also in that it would solidify resentment against them, and most terrorists are well-aware of how to utilize public sympathy, as hezbollah has shown in the recent past.

That's not a moral judgement, those are just some rather self-evident facts.

And as for internal terrorist types like McVeigh, Krar, and the like, it's unlikely, because when a man assumes the oval office, when he takes up the mantle of the POTUS, he *BECOMES* that office, and no matter how vile and despicable a man he is, he is the living personification of americas leadership and thus any strike against him would be one against not only all of america, but the very IDEA of america - and even most domestic terrorists would not do this, as their ire is directed mostly at the direction america has gone, it's policies or agencies, but very few, if any of them are set against the concept.

I think it's quite telling and ironic that our resident trolls don't have a problem with a president being assassinated, but only that they have a problem with the one who's nuts they are currently riding being cacked - it speaks volumes about what they really care about, placing their party above their country, but that's always been their way.

The very first attempted assassination of a president was almost certainly assisted, if not plotted, by that party, and failed because both of the miscreants pistols misfired, whereupon president jackson had to be physically restrained from beating the damned fool to death with his cane.
http://americanhistory.si.edu/PRESIDENCY/3d1c.html
It was jacksons destruction of the national bank and actually bringing our country out of debt for the first, last, and only time in it's history that so angered the whigs, later to become the republicans we all know and 'love' today.

So is it really any wonder they don't have a problem with presidental assassination, long as it's not their president ?

Anyhow, you can't cack the POTUS, it's stupid, irresponsible, solves nothing and would create a cascade of consequences not the least of which would be an outpouring of public hatred towards the cause of whomever tried it.

And a film detailing that fallout - sure, there's a place for it, and if anything it would *discourage* those who would consider it, and I cannot see that as a bad thing.

It would depend a lot on the film, whether it's a realistic "What-if" piece, or whether it overshadows reality with it's own 'message' to the point of distortion.

For mine own, I'd reserve judgement till I saw it.

-Frem

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:56 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When a political group ( The Left ) is so utterly bankrupt of ideas and has become so completely irelevent, this is what it depths it is willing to sink.

Dude - it is a BRITISH docudrama. Why does it have to be from a particular political side. Why can't it just be from Bush dislikers?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:15 AM

FELLOWTRAVELER

I honestly don't see the big deal. Are we afraid somebody might get an idea from this thing? Because, as we all know, there were no assassinations before the advent of the movin' picture. Wait, is that right...

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:07 AM

Auraptor,

So you want our president to be shot?
I think most people who think about shooting our current president (I estimate there are probably one million actively planning it at the moment) - do not think of the consequences of their actions. Think of how this govt. in a bipartisan way exploited 9-11 to dismantle an institution I used to call america. Now think of what this govt., not any other govt. like the kennedy or lincoln govt, would handle an assassination. It would probably institute gun control. Its worth speculating. I think that the only thing in between a bullet and bush is a billion dollars worth of security. He's already had at least one assassination attempt that we know of. The film would undoubtedly decrease the chances of bush being assassinated, not increase it.

But maybe you've thought through to the next level. If bush were assassinated, then cheney could run for reelection in 2008, whereas cheney could never win an open gop primary. So maybe assassinating bush is just what a very pro bush person might do.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
When a political group ( The Left ) is so utterly bankrupt of ideas and has become so completely irrelevant, this is what it depths it is willing to sink.

It never ceases to amaze me how immoral a political group can get that they take any opportunity to blame another for all ills...

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Seriously man, it's made in Britain for British TV, it's nothing to do with American left/right politics. It's nothing to do with British left/right politics. It's nothing to do with Bush haters.

Why must you judge everything by how 'right' (know what I mean?) you perceive it to be?

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Theo Van Gogh's death taught them not to make snuff films about Islamic leaders. Those folks don't take even the most vague or 'sophisticated' criticisms very well at all.

And to show them how wrong they were you propose responding in kind. Brilliant in its simplistic idiocy...

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Then again, Matt Stone and Trey Parker didn't show any fear in the making of Team America!

Yeah I know, the way they took the utter piss out of the American gung-ho kill 'em all attitude, that was great.

Now to end on an amusing note:

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I believe this crosses the line of 'responsible' free speech,and that if the writers/ directors of this movie step foot in the US, they should be detained.

HOW DARE YOU MAKE A FILM WE DON'T AGREE WITH!!!!! GITMO, GITMO NOW!

Anyone remember the Muhammad cartoon thing? I thought freedom of speech was king, always...

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:51 AM

FELLOWTRAVELER

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Originally posted by citizen:
Anyone remember the Muhammad cartoon thing? I thought freedom of speech was king, always...

Hey man, at least I'm consistent. I think it's all okay. Even the violent porn mentioned in another thread.

However, this should make things more interesting:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/09/12/filmfest.president.reut/i
ndex.html

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Bush assassination movie gets U.S. deal

...Gabriel Range, the British producer/director/creator of "Death of a President," the fictional documentary that sight unseen became one of the most talked-about movies of the Toronto Film Festival, has sold U.S. distribution rights to Newmarket Films, which handled Mel Gibson's equally provocative movie "The Passion of the Christ"...

I can't help but wonder if those who were vilifying the Clintons for blasting the recent ABC "docu-drama" will do the same to those who oppose this film. Somehow, I doubt it... I imagine this will be, instead, yet another partisan discussion.

EDIT- Please note the distributor is the same that distributed "Passion of the Christ". Not exactly a leftist film.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:55 AM

I know you are man

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Just pointing out that others, well, aren't...

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:00 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
When a political group ( The Left ) is so utterly bankrupt of ideas and has become so completely irelevent, this is what it depths it is willing to sink. "

When a political group (the Right) has run out of progressive and intellegent things to say it starts looking for arguments with everyone else.
Was'nt Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet etc on the right of the political spectrum?
Still at least the trains ran on time eh AURAPTER?

Oh, and yes, I am calling you a Nazi, Nazi.

Dont forget to capitalize several of the words in your response.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:50 AM

America loves a winner!

First of all, the story ( attributed to Mossolini ) that the trains ran on time is a myth.

Second, it's AURaptor. At least get THAT right, if nothing else.

Moussolini was a FASCIST dictator. Neither of which ( fascist or dictator ) go anywhere to describe what a conservative is in today's US politics. Poor attempt on your part to try to draw any sort of connection, pin head.

And you trying to call me a NAZI only shows that you're a fucking ignorant MORONN for not even knowing what NAZIs were.

p.s. - Progressive is nothing more than a code word for socialist. Not overly impressive, either way. Intelligent ? A debate could be made that neither Right or Left could offeres much in the way of intelligence as displayed in D.C.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:54 AM

America loves a winner!

Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
At least we know where Auraptor stands: presenting false information as historical fact - acceptable. Presenting a fictional possibility - unacceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he disapproves of - acceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he approves of - unacceptable.

And he doubtlessly sees no problem there either.

Where have I ever stood for presenting false info as fact? That'd be NEVER.

Did I ever offer any opinion of a film depicting the murder of ANY 'world leader' ? No, I did not. ( Kim Jong Il didn't 'die' in the movie 'Team America, did he ? I can't remember. But those puppets were pretty damn funny. I'll give them that. )

My, you're 1 for 3. I guess that's a good average for you, huh?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:06 AM

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Auraptor,

So you want our president to be shot?
I think most people who think about shooting our current president (I estimate there are probably one million actively planning it at the moment) - do not think of the consequences of their actions. Think of how this govt. in a bipartisan way exploited 9-11 to dismantle an institution I used to call america. Now think of what this govt., not any other govt. like the kennedy or lincoln govt, would handle an assassination. It would probably institute gun control. Its worth speculating. I think that the only thing in between a bullet and bush is a billion dollars worth of security. He's already had at least one assassination attempt that we know of. The film would undoubtedly decrease the chances of bush being assassinated, not increase it.

But maybe you've thought through to the next level. If bush were assassinated, then cheney could run for reelection in 2008, whereas cheney could never win an open gop primary. So maybe assassinating bush is just what a very pro bush person might do.

Dude, you need to lay off chewing those lead paint chips.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by SimonWho:
At least we know where Auraptor stands: presenting false information as historical fact - acceptable. Presenting a fictional possibility - unacceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he disapproves of - acceptable. Films depicting the killing world leaders he approves of - unacceptable.

And he doubtlessly sees no problem there either.

Where have I ever stood for presenting false info as fact? That'd be NEVER.

Did I ever offer any opinion of a film depicting the murder of ANY 'world leader' ? No, I did not. ( Kim Jong Il didn't 'die' in the movie 'Team America, did he ? I can't remember. But those puppets were pretty damn funny. I'll give them that. )

Yes, Kim Jong Il did die in the movie. So, that makes me two for three.

And you're a Republican. Presenting false info as fact is pretty much all you're good at.

Burn! Three for Three! :)

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:14 PM

America loves a winner!

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Yes, Kim Jong Il did die in the movie. So, that makes me two for three.

And you're a Republican. Presenting false info as fact is pretty much all you're good at.

Burn! Three for Three! :)

If I didn't recall that Kim Jong Il had died, then you can't accuse me of approving of movies which show (puppet) world leaders dying. You're back to 1 for three.

Actually, I'm a conservative Libertarian ( There is no party registration here in GA, so I'm pretty much what ever I say I am

). Your non sequitur comment about GOP presenting false info as 'fact' is utterly baseless and invalid. That crispy scent you smell is your own hide being toasted.

The only thing you did get right was that I was against the Bush assassination movie. Were Clinton still in office, and such a movie was made, I'd be just as against this crap. Doesn't matter the party affiliation, as long as it's a sitting President, I'm against it.

Hope that clears some things up for ya.

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" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:31 PM

KERNELKURTZ

Er...first off, it would be legally and etically wrong to detain someone for making a movie, which is a piece of fiction. You shouldn't restrict the right to free speech just because you find a film offensive. And, yeah, I do find this a bit er, unsavory; but I do realize that it's a work of fiction, and just because I don't care to see it doesn't mean that people who are interested in it shouldn't be able to see it.

No, not a liberal...except when it comes to civil liberties. Actually, I take that back, I am a little bit liberal...so, I do have a bit of a bias. However, speaking from a strictly legal sense, there's nothing wrong with this movie.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 12:52 PM

KANEMAN

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Originally posted by KernelKurtz:
Er...first off, it would be legally and etically wrong to detain someone for making a movie, which is a piece of fiction. You shouldn't restrict the right to free speech just because you find a film offensive. And, yeah, I do find this a bit er, unsavory; but I do realize that it's a work of fiction, and just because I don't care to see it doesn't mean that people who are interested in it shouldn't be able to see it.

No, not a liberal...except when it comes to civil liberties. Actually, I take that back, I am a little bit liberal...so, I do have a bit of a bias. However, speaking from a strictly legal sense, there's nothing wrong with this movie.

Er, is very er, annoying...er, Well it's true

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:07 PM

KERNELKURTZ

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Originally posted by kaneman:
Er, is very er, annoying...er, Well it's true

I happen to find it quirky

, that's just how I speak, it helps me think...Also, to comment on that gung-ho attitude, it aggravates me...especially that vindictive kill-em-all-regardless of whether they actually attacked you or not attitude.

[rant]I mean, really, when's the last time the number or Iraqis killed was seen alongside the number of U.S. soldiers killed? Or the health effects of the people that depleted uranium was being dropped were explored? Also, why do some people think racial profiling is acceptable just becasue the militants being fought just happen to be of that race?[/rant]

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

If I didn't recall that Kim Jong Il had died, then you can't accuse me of approving of movies which show (puppet) world leaders dying.

Ah, selective memory. Sorry, forgot there was other things Republicans were good at.

And surely if puppet world leaders are allowed to die in movies, there's no problem with the Bush one?

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 4:06 PM

America loves a winner!

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SimonWho wrote:
Wednesday, September 13, 2006 14:17

..Ah, selective memory. Sorry, forgot there was other things Republicans were good at.

And surely if puppet world leaders are allowed to die in movies, there's no problem with the Bush one?

No, selective memory is what Democrats are good at, eg. Mrs Clinton 'forgetting' about the Rose Law Firm billing records which were in her private WH office for over 2 years, while she had 'no idea' where they were. Despite the fact that those files were subpoened. And her fingerprints were all over them as well. Oops.

Some world leaders are better than others. Small, pot bellied dictators from N.Korea are fair game. Sitting US Presidents aren't.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:03 PM

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No, selective memory is what Democrats are good at, eg. Mrs Clinton 'forgetting' about the Rose Law Firm billing records which were in her private WH office for over 2 years, while she had 'no idea' where they were. Despite the fact that those files were subpoened. And her fingerprints were all over them as well. Oops.

Some world leaders are better than others. Small, pot bellied dictators from N.Korea are fair game. Sitting US Presidents aren't.

Auraptor,

first off, no way. Us presidents are ALWAYS fair game.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt

That said, I have to congratulate you on a fresh can of worms.

Hillary Clinton killed her law parter, Vince Foster, and she did it personally. I think she poisoned his wine, and then had her thugs roll him up in a carpet, which also went missing from her office. There's an interesting book on the subject "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster" by Christopher Ruddy. Ruddy lays out all the details of the case, without technically saying anything. But the details of the case, by themselves, in the unbiased manner in which they are presented, speak volumes.

Part of me wants Hillary Clinton to be the candidate in '08, because of this, but I wonder, would John McCain actually say it? It would be nice if ABC or someone would do a TV special a few weeks before the 2008 election...

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by SimonWho:
Films depicting the killing world leaders he disapproves of - acceptable.

Quote:
Originally posted by Auraptor:
Did I ever offer any opinion of a film depicting the murder of ANY 'world leader' ? No, I did not.

Quote:
Originally posted by Auraptor:
Some world leaders are better than others. Small, pot bellied dictators from N.Korea are fair game. Sitting US Presidents aren't.

I'm saying nothing...

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:34 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Hero, ever the loyal servant of Gangsta Govt By Coups D'etat, will love this film, since it perpetraits the Lone Nut Theory Of History. Oh yeah, and millions of US Gulf War soldiers are now classified as "Lone Nuts", except for the 180,000 who are already dead.

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“I have a very hard time with this word ‘non-violence’, because I don’t believe that I am non-violent. Right now, I would love to kill George Bush.” (the children cheered in Brisbane City Hall)
—Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams, RightWingNuthouse.com, "BDS goes global," July 24, 2006
www.rightwingnuthouse.com/archives/2006/07/24/bds-goes-global/

President George Washington was assassinated by his Masonic doctors
The Masonic Washington Monument is 555 feet tall
555 is the Masonic Mafia's number for assassination
www.geocities.com/scarabbean_secret_society_ut

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"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, heh heh heh, just so long as I'm the dictator, heh heh heh."
— George Bush Jr, convicted drunk driver and AWOL draft deserter, arrested for theft and cocaine, sued for rape and sued for perping the 9/11 terrorist massacres, who performs mock human sacrifice to worship Satan at Bohemian Grove, who ate off Adolf Hitler's Nazi silverware at Yale Skull & Bones, whose grandfather Prescott Bush was arrested and handcuffed 3 times and paid a $750,000 forfeiture under the Trading With The Enemy Act for arming Nazi Germany DURING World War 2

VIDEO DOWNLOAD:
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VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Ronald Reagan Assasination Attempt
Bush family friend and business associate John Hinkley Jr was arrested for allegedly shooting President Ronald Reagan, 3 months after stealing the election with CIA director Bush Sr's treasonous October Surprise kidnapping of US embassy hostages in Iran. This coup d'etat promoted Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire to president 8 years early. George Bush Jr released Hinkley from the Loony Bin to spend time at home with his CIA father, who also employed the Lone Nut shooter of John Lennon. Hinkley Jr was found Not Guilty "by reason of insanity". CIA agent Bush Sr was photographed in Dealy Plaza the day President JFK Sr was assassinated, and FBI director J Edgar Hoover wrote a letter to Bush in the CIA discussing CIA's Operation Northwoods plan to use Cubans to perp terrorist assassinations in USA

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"From what I know and I've heard, they (the Hinckleys) are a very nice family and have given a lot of money to the Bush campaign."
-SHARON BUSH, Associated Press, "Bush Son Had Dinner Plans With Hinckley Brother Before Shooting," March 31, 1981
www.hereinreality.com/hinckley.html
www.voxfux.com/features/hinckley_bush_connection.html

"Neil Bush was scheduled to have dinner with Scott Hinckley on March 30th, 1981 - the day that then President Reagan was shot by Scott's younger brother John Hinckley, Jr. (the Hinckley Family and the Bush family were in the energy industry). The dinner was canceled. Additionally, the Bush family and Hinckley family are related, both having descended from Thomas Hinckley (born 19 Mar 1619, Hawkhurst, Kent, England; died 25 Apr 1706, Barnstable, MA) who was Governor of Plymouth Colony from 1658-1681."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Bush

CIA agent Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire and owner of Serenity in Dealy Plaza when President JFK Sr was assassinated by Dick Nixon's CIA Watergate convicted burglers E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis
www.jfkmurdersolved.com/bush.htm

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"The greater our knowledge increases the more our ignorance unfolds. The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie, deliberate, contrived and dishonest, but the myth, persistent, persuasive and unrealistic."
-John F. Kennedy Sr

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
"How can I get the Captain to shoot a cop in the face, and make it right?"
-Joss the Boss, Serenity DVD
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org

Does that seem right to you?
www.scifi.com/onair/
www.scifi.com/schedulebot/index.php3?date=18-SEP-2006&feed_req
www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=20&t=23683

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Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:09 AM

America loves a winner!

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Auraptor,

first off, no way. Us presidents are ALWAYS fair game.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt

That said, I have to congratulate you on a fresh can of worms.

Hillary Clinton killed her law parter, Vince Foster, and she did it personally. I think she poisoned his wine, and then had her thugs roll him up in a carpet, which also went missing from her office. There's an interesting book on the subject "The Strange Death of Vincent Foster" by Christopher Ruddy. Ruddy lays out all the details of the case, without technically saying anything. But the details of the case, by themselves, in the unbiased manner in which they are presented, speak volumes.

Part of me wants Hillary Clinton to be the candidate in '08, because of this, but I wonder, would John McCain actually say it? It would be nice if ABC or someone would do a TV special a few weeks before the 2008 election...

Can't think of another way to criticize a President w/ out making a movie where he's murdered? Wow. Don't know what to say about that. ( Other than to say that it's absurd to quote Teddy Roosevelt as if to suggest he'd ever support this movie as legitimate criticism of a President. ) I'll repeat myself so you don't misunderstand. Films involved with the murder of SITTING Presidents, regardles of party, simply should not be made. Definatly should not be shown until after they're out of office.

As for Hillary, you'll never see any network air a show which depicts here as having any involvement w/ Vince Foster' death. No opposing candidate will ever try to paint her w/ an accusing brush even remotely suggesting her guilt in that issue.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, September 16, 2006 8:36 AM

SASSALICIOUS

This isn't the first time that art, President Bush, and assassination have ever crossed paths. It's just the first time the assassination actually occurred. The art exhibit "Axis of Evil: The Secret History of Sin" had a one piece that depicted GWB with a gun pointed at his head (called "Patriot Act"). Another interesting piece was called "Citizen John Ashcroft".

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=News&id=2960987 has a picture of "Patriot Act".

"Art is meant to challenge and to make people question"~Micki Leventhal.

I'm going to go see if when/if it comes out in the U.S. because I think it should be interesting.

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Wisconsin sucks. I don't want to be here.

~Forsaken Forever

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Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:20 AM