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Sunday, October 8, 2006 7:18 PM

SOUPCATCHER


* raises hand timidly, a la Jon Stewart *

North Korea?

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Monday, October 9, 2006 8:37 AM

ANTIMASON


this is just my guess... but i think over the next 2 years, the establishment heirarchy will pull out all the stops: virus outbreaks, peak oil, global warming, economic crisis, terrorism... i expect every tool of the NWO elite to be used to push us officially into a UN global police state; all of which IMO will be initiated by the next terrorist strike in AMerica. i think the satanists at the pentagon have made it clear, internally.. that Iran is next on their list, whether they are directly related or not... so i expect any event, which may include Israel, to get the ball rolling for what may very well escalate into 'ww3'.

i do not wish this to be the case in any way.. but WE have no control over our government, and the media has officialy stifled any hope of the truth about 9.11(and its American contributors) to come out, which is the only hope we have to expose the interests who seek to establish this global government.. otherwise we will misleadingly be provoked into going knee-deep in an extended middle eastern conflict, which will over time destabilize the western nations sufficiently to abandon our remaining cherished civil liberties

but N. Korea is certainly a wild card.. this is definately an important variable, i just hope it works in our favor.. and is not used to justify even more conflict

** edit- i found the free download of Alex Jones Terrorstorm, i recommend you check it out, as it illustrates very succinctly the history of government sponsored terror and lies to provoke and initiate wars to galvanize the public to support lies for conquest
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=786048453686176230

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:53 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
* raises hand timidly, a la Jon Stewart *

North Korea?



Yes, this is certainly a long-expected development, after Rummy's nuke sales to North Korea. Is that why the German Queen of England knighted Sir Donald, or for all his other crimes against humanity?

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Rumsfeld link to sale of reactors to North Korea

By Randeep Ramesh
Sydney Morning Herald
May 10 2003

The US Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, sat on the board of a company that three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the "axis of evil" and which has been targeted for regime change by Washington because of its efforts of build nuclear weapons.

Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $US200 million contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. He sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $US190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush Administration.

www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/05/09/1052280441337.html


The two faces of Rumsfeld

2000: director of a company which wins $200m contract to sell nuclear reactors to North Korea
2002: declares North Korea a terrorist state, part of the axis of evil and a target for regime change

Randeep Ramesh
May 9, 2003
London Guardian

Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea - a country he now regards as part of the "axis of evil" and which has been targeted for regime change by Washington because of its efforts to build nuclear weapons.

Mr Rumsfeld was a non-executive director of ABB, a European engineering giant based in Zurich, when it won a $200m (£125m) contract to provide the design and key components for the reactors. The current defence secretary sat on the board from 1990 to 2001, earning $190,000 a year. He left to join the Bush administration.

www.guardian.co.uk/korea/article/0,2763,952289,00.html


Rummy's North Korea Connection

What did Donald Rumsfeld know about ABB's deal to build nuclear reactors there? And why won't he talk about it?


By Richard Behar
CNN Money
Fortune Magazine
May 12, 2003

Rumsfeld declined requests by FORTUNE to elaborate on his role. But ABB spokesman Bjorn Edlund has told FORTUNE that "board members were informed about this project." And other ABB officials say there is no way such a large and high-stakes project, involving complex questions of liability, would not have come to the attention of the board. "A written summary would probably have gone to the board before the deal was signed," says Robert Newman, a former president of ABB's U.S. nuclear division who spearheaded the project. "I'm sure they were aware."

FORTUNE contacted 15 ABB board members who served at the time the company was bidding for the Pyongyang contract, and all but one declined to comment. That director, who asked not to be identified, says he's convinced that ABB's chairman at the time, Percy Barnevik, told the board about the reactor project in the mid-1990s. "This was a major thing for ABB," the former director says, "and extensive political lobbying was done."

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/05/12/3423
16/index.htm




Ain't it funny how the pathological liars in the Media Mafia censor this fact when they report this week on N Korea's nuke test? Ain't it funny that Uncle Scam has already nuked USA over 1,050 times, according to History Channel? Ain't it funny that the Jewish Israeli citizen hired by Jr Bush to run US Dept of Homeland Security (Michael Chertoff) orders the borders to remain wide open to 10,000 terrorists every day, and even the San Diego Fence has giant "concrete water drainage ditches" large enough for 5 terrorists to walk side by side under the "fence"?

North Korea is just following orders from the New World Odor of the Illuminati, just like Noriega, Saddam, Qadaffi, Ho Chi Min, Castro, Stalin, Hitler, Clinton, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush, Bush and Bush.

Sir Donald also gave WMDs to Saddam during his infamous videotaped meeting in Iraq.


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Sunday, November 5, 2006 1:49 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


AND THE WINNER IS

Hussein Sentenced to Hang for Crimes Against Iraqis

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 2:02 PM

SOUPCATCHER


This isn't really an October surprise. I just didn't want to start a new thread.

Looks like one of the National Republican Committees is engaging in illegal activity. They don't care if they get fined or someone goes to jail because the election result will still stand. We saw this before in New Hampshire in 2002. Here's a short summary of what's going on:
Quote:

excerpted from http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/010830.php
...

What we're talking about is something a bit different. What we're seeing is an apparent coordinated effort from the NRCC -- the House GOP committee -- to place calls that appear to be from the local Democratic candidate and then automatically call the same number back as many as seven or eight times each time the caller hang-ups. If the caller listens to the whole message it goes on to bash the Democratic candidate. But if the caller hangs up prematurely, the computer calls right back. Hang-ups are the achilles heal of robo-calls. So this seems to be an attempt to cover for that weakness by making those who hang up think the Democratic candidate is basically harassing them with phone calls. The GOP wins either way.

What is there to do about it. As described, the calls appear to be in violation of federal regulations which mandate that these calls clearly identify their origin. The repetitive call back may also be a violation in different states. The New Hampshire AG apparently just intervened to force the NRCC to stop the calls in that state. But frankly, none of that matters. Because the folks placing the calls factor in the price of whatever fines might be meted out after the election when the damage is already done.

...


There also seems to be another tactic the Republicans are using. One of the national committees will either run a really negative ad or engage in illegal activity. The local candidate will decry this behavior and request the national committee stop. The national committee refuses. What a game. The attacks continue and the local candidate remains "clean."

Your modern day immoral Republican party, doing everything they can to hang on to one party rule.

* edited to add: It's stories like this that reinforce how different the Republican leadership's values are from my own. I was raised to believe that cheating to win, at anything, was wrong. Maybe my parents were naive. Maybe I'm naive in still holding on to that belief. It's clear that the Republican leadership believes in the motto, "Win by any means necessary." It's like being governed by Al Davis.

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 2:16 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


:sighhh:

You wonder how people keep voting for proven slime buckets. And rejoicing when they win ...

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Sunday, November 5, 2006 6:19 PM

DREAMTROVE


Rue,

So true. And that's what divisive politics is all about. You and I disagree on an issue, say, abortion. Overall, so what?, right? But politicians feed the debate until that's what we care about when we pull the level, and get us to back the side which agrees with us, on this issue, which probably doesn't have direct impact on our own personal lives, and almost certainly isn't going to be decided by the person we are about to vote for. All the rational part of us that says "don't support evil people" is lost in the shuffle. And so it goes.

Quote:


I am extraordinarily civil to DT, Finn, CTS, Antimason, and PN though I vehemently disagree with almost everything they say.



But I make so many good arguments :)

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Sunday, November 12, 2006 5:16 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I guess the surprise isn't going to be in October, but it's going to be soon. All of the pieces are in place- the USA has laid the diplomatic and political groundwork with the lame-duck Congress, the Eisenhower Strike Group was deployed and has been in place since late October, along with a complement of cruise missles, mine-laying ships and mine-sweepers. The person who dreamt up all of the reasons to hit Iraq has now been tasked to do the same for Iran, but that instead of trying to justify a strike before the fact they will justify it after the fact. I hear that the USA was training in northern IRAN (not Iraq). This has been in the works for a year and they Bush admin has been making steady progress towards it's goal of bombing Iran. I can't imagine them just giving up on what appears to be a longstanding goal.

I suspect that the USA may provoke (mine harbors, sabotage oil production, and/or engender rebellion) Iran into something stupid and then jump in.

I'll look this up, time permitting.

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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