Rosie O'Donnell - Not a real Browncoat !!! by AURaptor

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Rosie O'Donnell - Not a real Browncoat !!!

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Friday, December 15, 2006 3:32 PM

America loves a winner!

Her racist rant on The View shows what a low life piece of go se she really is !

As a friend of mine says on another board.....

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Her true colors come out...and she's "surprised" that would be viewed as offensive?

She wouldn't make it very long in our neighborhood (majority are ethnic Chinesa and speak more Mandarin than English). I think Rosie should have to do rehab here in Singapore....I'd love to see the look on her "tolerant" face at the wet market early on a Saturday morning.

What more needs be said ?

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:33 PM

CITIZEN

Erm, what event is this refrencing?

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:39 PM

PENGUIN

Rosie: Sorry for mocking Chinese on 'The View'

December 15, 2006
BY ERIN CARLSON ASSOCIATED PRESS
NEW YORK---- Rosie O'Donnell says she's sorry for mocking spoken Chinese on ''The View,'' but an association that represents journalists from diverse ethnic and racial backgrounds, including Chinese American, says it wasn't enough.

In a Dec. 5 segment, O'Donnell joked about how Danny DeVito's recent -- and seemingly drunken -- appearance on the ABC daytime talk show had become international news.

''You know, you can imagine in China it's like 'ching chong, ching chong chong, Danny DeVito, ching chong chong chong, drunk, ''The View,'' ching chong,''' the 44-year-old comedian said.

On Thursday's show, she told the audience: ''To say ching chong to someone is very offensive, and some Asian people have told me it's as bad as the n-word. Which I was like, 'Really? I didn't know that.'''

Karen Lincoln Michel, president-elect of Unity: Journalists of Color Inc., said O'Donnell's remarks ''really didn't sound like an apology to me.''

Lincoln Michel said Unity was waiting for Barbara Walters, who created the show, to respond to a letter asking her to publicly acknowledge that O'Donnell's remarks were ''patently offensive.''

''I think by allowing Rosie O'Donnell's cheap jabs at Chinese Americans to go unchecked, then the network is essentially condoning racial and ethnic slurs,'' Lincoln Michel told the AP in a phone interview.

Unity said it represents more than 10,000 journalists nationwide. ''You know it was never (my) intent to mock,'' O'Donnell said on Thursday's show, ''and I'm sorry for those people who felt hurt or were teased on the playground.''

''But I'm also gonna give you a fair warning that there's a good chance I'll do something like that again, probably in the next week -- not on purpose. Only 'cause it's how my brain works.''

O'Donnell characterized her accent as ''Chinese, Asian, pseudo-Japanese, sounded a little Yiddish ...''

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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:42 PM

JOHNNYREB

Rosie O. was on some talk show and said that "the news" (presumably Danny Devito was drunk) was known all over the world, then proceeded to imitate a Chinese news broadcast by saying, "Ching chong ching chong, ching ching chong Danny Devito drunk ching chong The View." (or something very close to that.) You can imagine the backlash.

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Friday, December 15, 2006 4:46 PM

JOHNNYREB

Whoops! Penguin cut and pasted faster than I typed. Sorry.

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Friday, December 15, 2006 5:10 PM

TRAVELER

Rosie does that to get attention. She does not care if it is bad or good, as long as you are talking about her. She would offend anybody to get noticed. She will do it again and again. That is her way.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 5:20 PM

FLORALBUNNY

Nice photo of Kim Novak, traveler.
Somewhere there is a great still from "Bell, Book, and Candle" of Kim, cloaked, with Pyewacket on her shoulder. Very swirly and dramatic.

bun
~Bastards singed my turtle~

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Friday, December 15, 2006 5:32 PM

TRAVELER

Hello Floralbunny:

I saw that picture at IMDB. I could not copy it. It is one of my favorite movies too. I googled her and this what I found. I read where her house just burned down and she lost a lot of personal effects. If memory serves me correctly, she became an artist after quit show business. I will watch that Bell Book and Candle tonight, now that you brought it up.

Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 6:40 PM

PIRATECAT

Keg Belly is just a drunk irish pig.

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Friday, December 15, 2006 8:24 PM

SIGMANUNKI

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Originally posted by traveler:
Rosie does that to get attention. She does not care if it is bad or good, as long as you are talking about her. She would offend anybody to get noticed. She will do it again and again. That is her way.

Exactly. This isn't exactly the first time that something like this has happened. I remember a few years back when she really tor into Tom Selleck totally unprovoked. It was ridiculous. After that one, her so called apology was a long the lines of, "I guess we're just both so passionate about what we believe." Basically, no apology at all.

And yes, I know that's old news. It's just that I pay such little attention to what actors say, that's the most recent one I can remember.

For that matter, why do we even care what some delusional half-wit on some morning show for morons says?

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Friday, December 15, 2006 9:03 PM

TRAVELER

I think calling Rosie a delusional half-wit is an insult to the whole delusional half-wit community.

I aim to be delusional
Traveler

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Friday, December 15, 2006 9:17 PM

FLORALBUNNY

continuing with my threadjack (heh)
traveler wrote in part:
I will watch that Bell Book and Candle tonight, now that you brought it up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You have a DVD or tape of BB&C? Or your own
private theatre, film library, and projectionist?
Either way, I'm jealous.
Saw BB&C on TV long ago. Fell in love with
it. Couldn't imagine it had been turned into
that fluffy series.
Sorry to hear about Kim N.'s fire -- it's very
hard to lose personal stuff with all the memories
which go with it, and then there is any work
which is also lost.

bun
~Bastards left my turtle the heck alone~

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Friday, December 15, 2006 11:33 PM

TRAVELER

Hello FloralBunny:

I taped BB & C myself many moons ago. Will have to break down and get a DVD one of these days. But I taped so many movies when VHS first came out I have quite a collection. It would cost me a fortune to replace them all with DVD's. So a little at a time.

Oh no! Were not talking about Rosie! She will really be sore at us.

Traveler

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 1:14 AM

PHOENIXSHIP

I have a copy of that picture... I don't know how to post it here, but if you give me your email address I will send it to you...

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:12 AM

SHINYTRINKET

All I have to do is think about who Rosie used to gush over on her talk show all the time.

Anyone?

Does Tom Cruise ring a bell?

Need I say more?

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:57 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So, why are we talking about Rosie?

Oh. 'Cause Auraptor brought her up.

So, why are we talking about Rosie?

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Nudge. Wink.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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Originally posted by SignyM:
So, why are we talking about Rosie?

Oh. 'Cause Auraptor brought her up.

So, why are we talking about Rosie?

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Nudge. Wink.

Hardy-har-har. I don't make up the news, I just post it here for others to discuss.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:02 PM

TRAVELER

Just wanted to thank Phoenixship for sending me the new picture of Kim Novak.

Traveler

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 2:51 PM

YINYANG

You were busy trying to get yourself lit on fire. It happens.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Hardy-har-har. I don't make up the news, I just post it here for others to discuss.

Rosie O'Donnell offending people? Not news.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:17 PM

SIMONWHO

She attacked Tom Selleck for being pro-Gun ownership at the same time as when she was advertising for a store (Target maybe?) that sold guns. Ho hum.

She's as much of an embarassment to the left as O'Reilly is to the right.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:18 PM

VETERAN

Don't squat with your spurs on.

Johnnyreb! Good to see your back to posting, it's been a long time.

Why is Rosie O'Donnell even being brought up on this board? It's a far cry from all the great Civil War discussions we used to have with Archer, Drakon, Southernmerc, Ginobiffarinoa, et al.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 3:49 PM

HKCAVALIER

One of the things that's so poisonous about the whole P.C. mania in this culture is that it demands some kind of sanitized, impersonal perfection of all public figures.

Jesus, people make racist comments all the time in our real lives, don't they? We hear people making racist jokes all the time, don't we? And we either laugh or we walk away. And those of us who laugh are not the devil and those of us who walk away are not members of the Elect.

But when public figures, who are no less human than any of us, no less imperfect, show their failings, the media and the culture at large rush to do battle with the simple reality that people can have some pretty messed up ideas about other people. It's never news unless we're so naive as to be surprised by this stuff.

So people are up in arms because Rosie's apology wasn't good enough. How many people in your day to day life really know how to apologize when they do something really bad? Why the heck should we expect Rosie to be any better than the rest of humanity?

Rosie's "joke" was tremendously insensitive. Of course it was. I'm sure that's part of the humor of it. Rosie is not a particularly sensitive person. In order for her to make an acceptable apology she would have to suddenly become much more sensative than she obviously is. That kind of thing doesn't tend to happen.

Of the three infamous celebrity racists we've made so much of lately, I have the most hope for Michael Richards actually getting anything out of his experience because he seems genuinely demolished by his outburst, while Rosie and Mel give us the moral equivalent of "sorry, my bad" and call it good. I think Rosie and Mel have made the typical choice. Michael Richards, not so much.

HKCavalier

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 4:35 PM

SIGMANUNKI

@HKCavalier:

You'd have a point if the US was a society that made sense. But, by your own admission, it isn't.

Basically, what people are wanting is that in her apology, she actually uses the word, "I apologize" or "I'm sorry" or something similar. Not her typical, implying that she might be sorry but not actually come out and say it. If her PR people was in any way shape or form competent, they would have gotten her to do this.

Which brings up another point. She habitually does this. I'd understand and not say a thing if it only happened once or twice. BUT, it's far more than once; it is a regular occurrence by any account.

One could liken this to getting charged with a felony by means of committing several misdemeanors.

Also, it is just a fact that people in her position hold a great amount of influence over there viewer-ship. This means that they have a great amount of responsibility to use that influence wisely.

Now, I'm going to be the first to agree that this shouldn't be the case. And I am very disturbed that this is the reality of the situation. But it is just that, the reality of the situation.

Basically, if someone can't keep there mouth shut when it comes to racist remarks, etc for about an hour or so a day, then they don't belong on TV.

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:26 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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She's as much of an embarassment to the left as O'Reilly is to the right

Wait, I thought Rosanne Barr was as annoying as Bill O'Reilly.

Now I'm really confused.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 5:59 PM

HKCAVALIER

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Basically, if someone can't keep there mouth shut when it comes to racist remarks, etc for about an hour or so a day, then they don't belong on TV.

But Sigma, hasn't Rosie done just that for many, many, many such hours? I mean, she wouldn't have a career otherwise.

I have a challenge: is there a single over-exposed celebrity--that is someone who's on tv every day, sometimes on several different shows on different networks--who hasn't made an ass of themselves at least a couple times? Now, some one here will prolly come up with one or two, but such people would be in the extreme minority.

Maybe this is a can of worms or something, but Southpark, Carlos Mencia and the greatly missed Dave Chappelle have all made racist remarks regularly and often. In fact, a friend of mine saw Carlos Mencia performing here in Seattle recently and he was heckled by some black college students and he quoted Michael Richards' tirade at them verbatim. My friend said it got the biggest laughs of the evening.

So, is it okay to express racism, as long as you're really, really smart about it?

HKCavalier

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 6:55 PM

JOHNNYREB

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Originally posted by Veteran:
Johnnyreb! Good to see your back to posting, it's been a long time.

Why is Rosie O'Donnell even being brought up on this board? It's a far cry from all the great Civil War discussions we used to have with Archer, Drakon, Southernmerc, Ginobiffarinoa, et al.

Hi Veteran! Too long indeed! There's no excuse for it.

(But a working computer sure does help.) I think Rosie's being discussed because of her unflattering portrayal of the future Alliance's co-partner in, say, another 500 years?

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Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:02 AM

SIGMANUNKI

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

But Sigma, hasn't Rosie done just that for many, many, many such hours? I mean, she wouldn't have a career otherwise.

But, the opportunity hasn't exactly presented itself every day. Arguably, when the opportunity does present itself, she takes it.

All her not going around and making random racist comments proves, is that she isn't a total moron.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

I have a challenge: is there a single over-exposed celebrity--that is someone who's on tv every day, sometimes on several different shows on different networks--who hasn't made an ass of themselves at least a couple times? Now, some one here will prolly come up with one or two, but such people would be in the extreme minority.

I think that what people are talking about here isn't that she's making an ass out of herself, but the specific way in which she has done it. Namely, the whole racist aspect.

There is also that whole thing that I'm not saying that people like her form a significant percentage of the "celebrity" population. So, why you bring this up is beyond me. I'm talking about one specific person.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

Maybe this is a can of worms or something, but Southpark, Carlos Mencia and the greatly missed Dave Chappelle have all made racist remarks regularly and often. In fact, a friend of mine saw Carlos Mencia performing here in Seattle recently and he was heckled by some black college students and he quoted Michael Richards' tirade at them verbatim. My friend said it got the biggest laughs of the evening.

This brings up the whole, you can be racist and it's ok if you're part of that race, hypocrisy. There is also the fact that most comedy makes fun of race, sexual orientation, politics, religion, class and society. For some reason people find it funny.

I imagine it's that "we can laugh at ourselves" thing. That is, as long as we know that the guy is joking around it's all good (with limits of course).

I just watched Michael Richards audible snap at thatvideosite.com and I don't think that he was joking (or at least he was partially serious). That, or it's because he's white. So, that made it not ok.

But, when Carlos Mencia did it, he was seen to be taking care of a heckler AND making fun of Michael Richards at the same time. Plus there's the whole thing that he's a minority himself.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

So, is it okay to express racism, as long as you're really, really smart about it?

I'd say that it is never ok to express racism. BUT, it is ok to make fun of it, or use it as long as people know you're just making a joke. Because as soon as people think that you're serious, if even in part, it becomes not cool.

There is also the whole, everyone has there own lines that you can't cross thing. Hell, Michael Richards snap might have gone over very well with a different audience. We'll never know though.

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Sunday, December 17, 2006 12:11 PM

CITIZEN

Well beyond some random bits and peices I don't really know who Rosie O'Donnell is, nor can I honestly say I care. Given some of the stuff certain people have defended here I find it laughable this is even a topic. She was an idiot, but 'ching chong chinaman' style comments aren't even in the same league as ranting about the war mongering international Jew...

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Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I've thought Rosie an idiot for years now, but I think people are being just a tad sensitive here. I mean, shit, why do you think Chinese accents have been poked fun at all these years? They're frackin funny. I'm sure that I'd sound funny speaking Chinese too.

Tis the season to be jorry, fra ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra.

No! Not Fra ra ra.... la la la.

Oh, hahahahah ok ok ok ok.

Deck the harrs with bows of horry, fra ra ra ra ra.

Sorry all ya haters of free speech, but that's just funny. 10 years ago, nobody would have even mentioned this, in the news or otherwise. How many times do I hear Martin Lawrence or Dave Chappelle or Carlos Mencia do the "white guy" impersonation? Who cares? If you can't laugh, then you should turn off your TV.

Anybody who thought Rosie was a Browncoat before this and changed their mind should be smacked in the head. She's pro-alliance all the way baby.

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Monday, December 18, 2006 8:26 AM

SHINYED

Hey Six,

I agree...I saw a replay of her doing the Ching-Choy stuff...although not particularly funny ( unless you're 5 years old ) I didn't feel it was an insult to Chinese people.....just a stupid attempt at being funny.

Personally, I can't stomach her....she thinks hers don't stink, but I think it stinks worse than anybody's. She'll self-destruct...they all do in time.

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Monday, December 18, 2006 8:34 AM

STORYMARK

Two questions:

One, When the hell was Rosie ever thought to have been a Browncoat to begin with?

Two, Who the hell cares?

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Tuesday, December 19, 2006 7:30 AM

SIGMANUNKI

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Originally posted by citizen:
Well beyond some random bits and peices I don't really know who Rosie O'Donnell is, nor can I honestly say I care. Given some of the stuff certain people have defended here I find it laughable this is even a topic. She was an idiot, but 'ching chong chinaman' style comments aren't even in the same league as ranting about the war mongering international Jew...

Just b/c you replied to my post, I think that I'll make something explicitly clear. I am in no way shape or form defending any aspect of what Rosie does. Nor am I defending any aspect of any other person that I've brought up. Quite frankly, I find what has happened unacceptable on every level. What I was doing was, as best I could, an objective analysis.

@6IXSTRINGJACK:

I find it rather amusing that you call us haters of free speech, and then proceed to ridicule us for exercising our right to free speech when we criticize what someone else has said.

Perhaps you should walk your talk.

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
- Voltaire

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