Its Snowing by Hero

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 10:38 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

It turns out that the Earth will continue to experience global warming at least through the end of summer, fall and into next year. Then there might be a little bit of winter right before summer comes again.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 11:01 AM

In all serious, the global warming debate really pisses me off.

What to do about global warming (if it exists) is a political issue.

Whether or not global warming exists is a scientific issue, and has absolutely nothing to do with political parties.

But people need to be on a team, and they believe whatever their team believes. It's ridiculous. Republicans laugh about global warming, and the Dems are so afraid of it.

Most people have an opinion about global warming without even bothering to do any scientific research on the matter. It's not religion. It's not a matter of personal faith. It's not about rooting for the home team.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:04 PM

The universe and that includes the Earth goes through cycles. The Earth has gone through several ice ages and probably some hot periods as well. So who knows why? And if does happen, what can we do about it?

Traveler

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:19 PM

FINN MAC CUMHAL

If I recognize that clicking sound and I do, then my house is currently experiencing global warming right now, and will continue warming until it reaches about 68-70 degrees F. It’s widely suspected that the electric company is to blame.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:33 PM

I drive a cheap Honda Civic that gets something like 35 to 38 MPG and eat chicken instead of beef. So if a cow farts in the wind don't blame me.

Traveler

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:08 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

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What to do about global warming (if it exists) is a political issue.

Do? There's nothing TO do, and that's the 'politics' about it. Fact is, it's got less to do ( well, nothing to do) with the enviroment and more to do w/ penalizing wealthy industrial nations and promoting 3rd world nations to 'catch up' and pollute more. Sounds pretty counter produtive if the aim to to REDUCE overall pollutants.

But that's not the aim at all. It's to redistribute ( ahh, a lovely concept, yes ? ) the planets resources so everyone is the SAME.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:19 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Every time I read these kinds of posts I can't help but think of the shameless trait of the massively ignorant for brazenly displaying their deficiencies.

Now, this may come across as a personal slam. But you all have no training or experience - literally nothing on which to base your purely personal opinions. And you expect people to take your pronouncements seriously? It seems so, so, so ... deluded.

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:57 PM

Rue, that's what I'm saying. I don't understand this shit, and it blows my mind that it's like a religion for both political parties. Like it's Santa Clause. We have smart scientists, can't we figure this out?

Is our massive pollution dangerously heating the earth or not?

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 5:10 PM

I'd like to add that I have not watched Al Gore's movie, but I did see a preview of it on the Daily Show.

It was a quick scene about the glaciers melting, causing floods. Al Gore said something dramatic about the 9/11 memorial in NYC being covered by water. Sad music played in the background.

I was disgusted that he would use 9/11 that way, and it made me not want to watch his movie.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Wednesday, January 10, 2007 6:26 PM

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We have smart scientists, can't we figure this out?

First we'd have to remove politics from the equation, and that's like askin a fish not to swim.

Actually I think the best folk to ask are upper-end meteorologists, wound up having a long, somewhat drunken convo in 1998 with one while living in TX, and his "best guesses" were instrumental in my decision to move to MI.

Make of that what you will.

-F

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 4:24 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by traveler:
I drive a cheap Honda Civic that gets something like 35 to 38 MPG

Good cars, great milage, squashed two pulling into my parking space this morning.

H

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Thursday, January 11, 2007 5:56 AM

CANTTAKESKY

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Originally posted by Hero:
The answer to both is a sad yes.

The mark of a good religion is that no matter what happens, the evidence can be interpreted to support one's beliefs. Good things happen? It's God's plan. Bad things happen? It's God's plan.

I find similarities with global warming rhetoric. It's hot? Global warming. It's cold? It's global warming.

Science differs from religion precisely in that all hypotheses and theories have to be falsifiable, that is, scientific ideas have to be able to be proven wrong. That is one aspect of politicized global warming that I have a hard time with; the theory of global warming is no longer falsifiable in that arena and therefore no longer subject to scientific scrutiny.

Can't Take My Gorram Sky

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Friday, January 12, 2007 6:03 PM

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Friday, January 12, 2007 6:10 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

CTS,

"That is one aspect of politicized global warming that I have a hard time with; the theory of global warming is no longer falsifiable in that arena and therefore no longer subject to scientific scrutiny."

I'm getting really tired of your pretensions. Please stop claiming knowledge where you have none. Do you think all research has stopped on global warming? That the biggest question and smallest details are now irrelevant? Jeez. This is just another of your stooopid claims among all your stooopid claims.

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Friday, January 12, 2007 9:55 PM

Rue ? WTF man ?

She says that once folk make it a RELIGIOUS, rather than SCIENTIFIC, belief, that evidence (for them) no longer matters...

To THOSE PEOPLE, research and details ARE irrelevant, because they take it as matter of faith rather than evidence.

What's got yer chain in a knot mano, enquiring minds wanna know, cause distorting what's said and applyin nastiness ain't your usual MO.

-Frem

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:37 AM

CITIZEN

The facts are that the Earth is getting warmer at a pretty much unprecedented rate in all our data, and although the Earth isn't as hot as it has been in the past other warming factors are unprecedented or at the highest levels in hundreds of thousands of years. The variables are doing strange things which they haven't done in the past, and all of this happened in step with the industrial revolution.

Though I'm sure it's all just a major coincidence. Although we are missing the other, although I'm sure far more likely, possibility that the naturally warming Earth actually caused the Industrial Revolution.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:32 PM

Hello Hero:

I know. I have to park at the far end of my companies parking lot so the Chevy pickups don't flatten it.

Traveler

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Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:47 PM

Hey Trav ?

Not to derail the OBVIOUSLY impending flamewar (much)...

But who's the chick on the left, i *know* that scene is familiar but cursed if i can remember from where...

That's been twistin my brain ever since you made it your sig.
Gotta know, man, gotta know..

-Frem

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:33 AM

Bush says Global Warming is Real
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1989997,00.html

George Bush is preparing to make a historic shift in his position on global warming when he makes his State of the Union speech later this month, say senior Downing Street officials.

Bush and Blair held private talks on climate change before Christmas, and there is a feeling that the US President will now agree a cap on emissions in the US, meaning that, for the first time, American industry and consumers would be expected to start conserving energy and curbing pollution.

"Gott kann dich nicht vor mir beschuetzen, weil ich nicht boese bin."

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:55 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Hi Frem

You're right. I was having a pissy day and it put me in a pissy mood and I misread what CTS wrote. Going back and re-reading her post I realize that.

So, trying to set things right ...

CTS, I hope you're around. I apologize ...

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:09 PM

S'ok mano, not like it don't happen to all of us, some more than others - I avoid posting after getting home from work for that very reason.

I tellya tho, Grand Theft Auto:San Andreas oughta be a psychological/medical tax writeoff for Detroit Cabbies, cause there's no better way I know of to "Get it out of your system" after a bad, bad day on the roads..

"You want a ride, do you, welll yer gonna GET ONE NOW!"

Teeheehee

-F

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Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:54 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

Hey FremD,

I've never been to MI but when I get there I'll try to arrange to get your cab. I'm up for an adventure. So whatever day your having - that's the ride I'd like to get.

- I'll take the FremD special. And maybe we could hoist a few beers in the eve.

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Monday, January 15, 2007 3:00 PM

RIGHTEOUS9

Absolutely right Hero and Auraptor...

there's nothing to see here. This is just a case of all those science whores, and I do mean all of them, selling out to the environmentalists, not for cash, but out of sheer jealousy towards our benevolent big busineses.

Which just goes to show that if you want honest scientists, you have to buy them. Exxon has been funding the real stuff, and with a budget of over 40 million dollars, its no wonder the good guys were able to dig up the truth about global warming maybe possibly not being soully a man-made problem. Eat that Gore.

The inept EPA scientists were in the former group also, and it took a non-scientist to analyze their results and then to edit out the parts that were clearly partisan. His honesty was also bought and paid for by the oil industry so we know we can trust him.

Check this crap out. In a random sampling of a couple hundred scientific articles on global warming, 100 percent of them did not question the validity of man's impact on the "calamity."

Well does a random sampling seem right to you? Where's the control group? It seems more fair if we picked one from the science whores, and then one from exxons team, and then one from the science whores, then one from Exxons team, etc. That would be more of a cross section of views after all.

Luckily the media has taken it upon themselves to do just that, and in a complete collection of all global warming articles, 53 percent allow for the doubt that the "men of science" have narrow mindedly blackballed from the conversation. Rock on real men of genius!

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Monday, January 15, 2007 3:33 PM

CITIZEN

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
Rock on real men of genius!

It's a fine line between genius and insanity...

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, January 17, 2007 3:30 PM

Hello Fremdfirma:

The woman is Priscilla Lawson. She played Princess Aura in the first Flash Gordon serial in 1936 that starred Buster Crabbe. She made a few more movies, but never made it big. Her Princess Aura role is her one big moment of stardom. She died in a car. Very little is know about her. Google Tony Lobue's Flash Gordon site and you will learn all that is know about her and there are a lot more pictures.
I first saw her when they put the Flash Gordon serials on TV back in the early Fifties. So now you know I'm a old fart.

Traveler

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:08 AM

HERO

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
there's nothing to see here.

Actually there's alot to see. After all it snowed in Malibu which is the first time in recorded history that it has EVER snowed someplace warm.

I mean warm places don't get snow. Never happens. Never. Can't think of a single time...

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On January 19th, 1977, snow fell in South Florida for the first time
in recorded history. Residents and visitors were both surprised and
thrilled at the rare phenomena, and local newspapers ran headlines
which were nearly as big as it would be for major National or world
events. Snow was seen across all of Southeast Florida as far south
as Homestead and even on Miami Beach. Reports of snow were also
received at Freeport, Grand Bahama Island on the other side of the
Gulf Stream from Southeast Florida

well, yeah...except that one time...and that time in 1899.

Guess global warming is all Carter's fault. Somehow I've always suspected it.

H

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Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:39 AM