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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This just in: Scientists confirm Global Warming in no way contributed to by man!
Dr. Wytell Crump from the University of Kingston Falls states: "This is all nonsense, this global Warming rubbish. Yes, there IS a measureable difference in the mean Earth temperature, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called greenhouse gasses. Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all, but the numbers do not lie! This is the cause of our polar cap shrinkage."

http/www.notarealsite.com


Guess I was wrong...Chrisisall

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Originally posted by antimason:
giving an established body the responsibilty to legislate and affect planetary changes (suprise!) will only result in total abject tyranny and oppression

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This just in: Scientists confirm Global Warming in no way contributed to by man!
Dr. Wytell Crump from the University of Kingston Falls states: "This is all nonsense, this global Warming rubbish. Yes, there IS a measureable difference in the mean Earth temperature, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called greenhouse gasses. Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all, but the numbers do not lie! This is the cause of our polar cap shrinkage."

http/www.notarealsite.com


Guess I was wrong...Chrisisall

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Originally posted by citizen:

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Spoken like a true follower of TheRightStuff.

Ponce. Chrisisall

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Originally posted by citizen:

Terrorist!

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Just imagine if people made purchasing decisions based at least in part on if the products effect the environment negatively.

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... but it IS happening.

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
You're completely off your nut.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Yeah, but not by man, and there's nothing we can do about it, if it IS happening.

I refuse to join the lemmings.

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Madness does not always howl. Sometimes, it is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "Hey, is there room in your head for one more?"

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Your petty insults, false pride and inferiority complex aside, I refuse to join the lemmings.

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Sorry, but your indignation of me not 'falling in line' isn't compelling enough evidence for me to buy into the hysteria.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Nah, nah, you've got it all wrong!

It's those pesky aliens using a cosmic ray projector to fry us one degree at a time so they can have our planet !

Over to our on-site correspondent, Pirate News, for an update on the situation... PN ?

PN are you there ?

PN !!!

OH NO, THEY'VE EATEN THE CORRESPONDENT, THEY'RE GONNA KILL US ALL, RUN FOR YOUR LIIIIIIVEEESS!

(Oh this is tooo much fun..)

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:

You're completely off your nut.

It is happening, and your delusion doesn't make that not a fact. One delusional "scientist" out of pretty much the whole community doesn't change that fact.

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Perhaps it's not as dangerous, perhaps it's more dangerous, but it IS happening.

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Also, point of fact, it is only ridiculously politicized in the North America (mainly the US though). Go and look what's happening in Europe. They are taking this seriously, and have instituted laws to get the job done. Sure the companies complained, but they adjusted and all is well and good over there.

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As for what one person can do, sure it's limited. BUT, if everyone did something, then the effect would be profound. Keeping this "but what can I do" BS keeps populations apathetic and unwilling to promote positive change. This is true with regards to the global warming issue and can be applied to most other areas as well e.g. voting.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all...

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

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... but it IS happening.

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Yeah, but not by man, and there's nothing we can do about it, if it IS happening.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Saying, "I've studied this and lots of people have studied this and it's irrefutable (by any intelligent and/or reputable individual) that mankind is the primary causal factor in global warming..."

Is EXACTLY identical to saying:

"I think mankind is the primary causal factor of global warming, and a lot of other people think it, too. The people who don't think so are all uninformed shitheads."

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

That puts "Global Warming Because of Us" advocates into the position of presenting evidence, while "Global Warming Not Because of Us" advocates analyze the data and find flaws or alternative conclusions.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

But the furor over Global Warming is idiotic, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Give me more money in my wallet, give me more time on this Earth. Those are real issues. Humans adapt easily to temperature. They don't adapt as well to being broke or dead.

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
This just in: Scientists confirm Global Warming in no way contributed to by man!
Dr. Wytell Crump from the University of Kingston Falls states: "This is all nonsense, this global Warming rubbish. Yes, there IS a measureable difference in the mean Earth temperature, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with so-called greenhouse gasses. Instruments definitivly show a rise in the temperature of space itself of six and one half degrees. Until now, we hadn't thought such a thing possible, what with space being nothing and all, but the numbers do not lie! This is the cause of our polar cap shrinkage."

http/www.notarealsite.com


Guess I was wrong...Chrisisall

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My petty insults huh. The only person whose made any personal insults so far would be you, before trying to take the moral high ground it is customary to ensure ...blah, blah blah.

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Why would I refute you with evidence when you haven't brought any? Is this double standards or hypocrisy, I'm not sure?

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I have no desire to change your mind, you'd have to have one first but joking aside there is only one person who could change 'your' opinion, and he lives in a house that is somewhat white.

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Why do you insist (implicitly) that only the extremes exist in this discussion? Or in other words, why is there no middle ground between "ack, the sky is falling" and "the ostridge syndrome"?

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Originally posted by BrownCoatUniversity:
University of Kingston Falls (well need I say more) When you get a Professor from Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, hell even a half decent acredited university then make a statement.

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Originally posted by Causal:
the universe isn't expanding out into space--space itself is stretching

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Originally posted by MGTS:

Ya ok where did u get this info from??

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
What happens when it reaches it's apex? Does it snap back? 'Cause that might be bad.

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
There's a group in charge of compiling the current research/evidence/etc that show that global warming is real. They are call the International Panel on Climate Change:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

Please refer to there documents and let us know exactly what the problems with there work is. After all you say:

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

But the furor over Global Warming is idiotic, in my opinion.

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So, let us know why it is idiotic. Sure it's been hyped up in North American (especially the US), but that doesn't mean it's bad science nor does it mean it isn't a serious issue nor does it mean that it shouldn't be considered.

How self centered and short sighted of you.

Seems to me what the scientists are predicting IS death by more severe natural disasters. And since what they have predicted IS coming to pass...

Let us know how those life threatening hurricanes suit you then. Or perhaps you could ask someone in New Orleans. Or perhaps the people affected by droughts in Africa.

Because it seems to me that we aren't dealing too well with these changes in temperature. Mother natural isn't exactly letting us.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
As is most often the case, blah blah blah

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You're not sure because it's above you to even contemplate.

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Other than you see it as just another reason to be a jack-ass and insert yourself by insulting someone in this thread who hadn't said 1 derogatory word toward you in the least.

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If you're trying to imply that my stance on global warming relies solely on what any elected official has to say, you'd be greatly mistaken.

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Or was that also a joke? It's so hard to figure out British humor.

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Why didn't you read what I posted ? I conceeded that global warming MAY be happening, but its not due to mankinds actions. That seems to me to be the perfect 'middle' you say I'm avoiding. Hmmm....

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Originally posted by Causal:
Actually, if I remember by Astronomy class, space is not "no-thing." If I remember our discussion of the expansion of the universe, the prof said that the universe isn't expanding out into space--space itself is stretching, so it takes longer to get from point to point. This, of course, has nothing to do with global warming, but it bakes my noodle every time I think about it, so I thought I'd share the love.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I refuse to join the lemmings.

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Claim: During the filming of the 1958 Disney nature documentary White Wilderness, the film crew induced lemmings into jumping off a cliff and into the sea in order to document their supposedly suicidal behavior.

Status: True.

Origins: Lemming
suicide is fiction. Contrary to popular belief, lemmings do not periodically hurl themselves off of cliffs and into the sea. Cyclical explosions in population do occasionally induce lemmings to attempt to migrate to areas of lesser population density. When such a migration occurs, some lemmings die by falling over cliffs or drowning in lakes or rivers. These deaths are not deliberate "suicide" attempts, however, but accidental deaths resulting from the lemmings' venturing into unfamiliar territories and being crowded and pushed over dangerous ledges. In fact, when the competition for food, space, or mates becomes too intense, lemmings are much more likely to kill each other than to kill themselves.

I'm not gonna jump off. YOU jump off! Disney's White Wilderness was filmed in Alberta, Canada, which is not a native habitat for lemmings and has no outlet to the sea. Lemmings were imported for use in the film, purchased from Inuit children by the filmmakers. The Arctic rodents were placed on a snow-covered turntable and filmed from various angles to produce a "migration" sequence; afterwards, the helpless creatures were transported to a cliff overlooking a river and herded into the water. White Wilderness does not depict an actual lemming migration — at no time are more than a few dozen lemmings ever shown on the screen at once. The entire sequence was faked using a handful of lemmings deceptively photographed to create the illusion of a large herd of migrating creatures.

Nine different photographers spent three years shooting and assembling footage for the various segments that comprise White Wilderness. It is not known whether Disney approved or knew about the activities of James R. Simon, the principal photographer for the lemmings sequence.

Nature documentaries are notoriously difficult to film, as wild animals are not terribly cooperative. Many nature shows and films of this era — including Disney's "True-Life Adventure" movies and TV's Wild Kingdom — staged events to capture exciting footage for their audiences. The sight of a few lemmings mistaking a lake or ocean for a stream and drowning after swimming out too far, or being pushed over a cliff during the frenzied rush of migration, has become the basis of a widespread belief that lemmings commit suicide en masse when their numbers grow too large.

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Originally posted by MGTS:

MGTS go ahead try to guess what it stands for.

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Originally posted by citizen:
Simply put there is nothing in Space to have a temperature. It's not quite that simple because space does have a temperature, of about 3 kelvin, 3 degrees above absolute zero, the lowest possible temperature because at this point atomic vibration ceases to occur.

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Imply, I pretty much flat out stated it, was it too subtle for you? I find it funny and interesting that every position you hold mirrors Bush's words, after all it's wholly not based on scientific opinion because we know where the consensus among the majority and independent majority of science lies.

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It is even more interesting to me that you attack creationists for ignoring the scientific consensus then do the same yourself, that is when the consensus says something that doesn't reflect the Bush administrations position and your own preconceived notions.

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No, to call that position middle ground is delusional or dishonest at best. All it is, is rehashing the same position of no Global Warming with out the untenable requirement of having to deny that 40 isn't higher than 30. It's not all that different too creationists rehashing their myth as intelligent design.

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Originally posted by MGTS:

anyway will u answer my question or not??

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Originally posted by rue:
MGTS go ahead try to guess what it stands for.

my god they(this) suck(s) ?

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