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''We don't have time to answer their questions, the truth is in the photographs.''
-NASA spokesman


Serial killer Colonel Buzz Aldrin calmly discussing his historic "moon" walk
www.moonmovie.com
www.conspiracyworld.com/index0035.htm

Music Video: We Never Went to the Moon
Winner Best Music Video in Hollywood
Winner Best Filmed Music in Hollywood
directed by Pirate News TV
www.myspace.com/ufoetry
www.piratenews.org/hollywood.html


No rocket exhaust on the Apollo moonset

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon. This is the great dragon of chapter 12, Satan or Azazel. He has a number of names, but in each case, he is the king of all the demons, Lucifer, who became Satan."
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV with Forerunner Commentary)

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"Regarding the Apollo mission, I can't say 100% for sure whether these men walked on the Moon. It's possible that NASA cut corners just to be the first to allegedly go to the Moon. NASA could have covered it up. If some of the film was spoiled, it's remotely possible they may have shot some scenes in a studio environment to avoid embarrassment."
—Dr. Brian O'Leary, Ph.D., standby astronaut on Apollo program, FOX TV, "Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon?"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1138935117048624484&q=conspir
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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively, and without self-delusion- in the long run these are the only people who count."
—Robert A. Heinlein

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Originally posted by Khyron:
Isn't Science Great?

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Originally posted by Causal:
Yes, it explains everything and provides hope for a bright shiny utopia.

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Originally posted by Causal:
Yes, it explains everything and provides hope for a bright shiny utopia.

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Exactly!

Oh wait, you were being sarcastic...

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The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.

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Originally posted by Causal:
Yes, it explains everything and provides hope for a bright shiny utopia.

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Originally posted by citizen:
I believe explaining everything is religions sole purvew. Though it's has so far fantastically failed to provide the Utopia, no wait, that comes when you die, so no need to bother improving the world...

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Neutrinos are an important product of supernovae. In such events, the pressure at the core becomes so high (1014 g/cm³) that the degeneracy of electrons is not enough to prevent protons and electrons from combining to form a neutron and an electron neutrino. Most of the energy produced in supernovas is radiated away in the form of an immense burst of neutrinos. The first experimental evidence of this phenomenon came in the year 1987, when neutrinos coming from the supernova 1987a were detected. It is thought that neutrinos would also be produced from other events such as the collision of neutron stars.

The neutrino burst is expected to reach Earth before any electromagnetic waves, including visible light, gamma rays or radio waves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

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Newton's second law of motion can be formally stated as follows:

Fnet = m * a

The acceleration of an object as produced by a net force is directly proportional to the magnitude of the net force, in the same direction as the net force, and inversely proportional to the mass of the object.

As learned in the "The Rocket Simulation" Lab, the acceleration of an object depends directly upon the net force acting upon the object, and inversely upon the mass of the object. As the force of propulsion acting upon the rocket-chair increased, the acceleration of the rocket-chair increased. As the mass of the rocket-chair increased, the acceleration of the rocket-chair decreased.

www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/CLASS/newtlaws/u2l3a.html

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In particle physics, quarks are one of the two basic constituents of matter (the other are the leptons). Quarks are the only fundamental particles that interact through all four of the fundamental forces. Quarks come in six flavors, and their names (up, down, strange, charm, bottom, and top) were also chosen arbitrarily based on the need to name them something that could be easily remembered and used. Isolated quarks are never found naturally; they are almost always found in groups of two (mesons) or groups of three (baryons) called hadrons. The composite particles made of quarks and antiquarks are the hadrons. These include the mesons which get their quantum numbers from a quark and an antiquark, and the baryons, which get theirs from three quarks. Astronomical observations of helium abundance give consistent results. Results of direct searches for a fourth generation give limits on the mass of the lightest possible fourth generation quark. The most stringent limit comes from analysis of results from the Tevatron collider at Fermilab, and shows that the mass of a fourth-generation quark must be greater than 190 GeV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quark

Albert Einstein reasoned that energy is equivalent to mass, as famously expressed in the formula E=mc² (1 kg = 90 petajoules). It is thus common in particle physics, where mass and energy are often interchanged, to use eV/c² or even simply eV as a unit of mass. For example, an electron and a positron, each with a mass of 0.511 MeV/c², can annihilate to yield 1.022 MeV of energy. The proton has a mass of 0.938 GeV, making GeV a very convenient unit of mass for particle physics.
1 GeV/c² = 1.783×10−27 kg = 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeV

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Neutrinos are elementary particles. Travelling close to the speed of light, lacking electric charge and able to pass through ordinary matter almost undisturbed, their detection is extremely challenging. Neutrinos were once thought to have no mass, but they are now known to have a minuscule (but non-zero) mass. Most neutrinos which pass through the Earth emanate from the sun and more than 50 trillion solar electron neutrinos pass through the human body every second. The neutrino was first postulated in December, 1930 by Wolfgang Pauli to explain beta decay, the decay of a neutron into a proton and an electron. In 1956 Clyde Cowan, Frederick Reines, F. B. Harrison, H. W. Kruse, and A. D. McGuire published the article "Detection of the Free Neutrino: a Confirmation" in Science, a result that was rewarded with the 1995 Nobel Prize. In this experiment, now known as the neutrino experiment, neutrinos created in a nuclear reactor by beta decay were shot into protons producing neutrons and positrons both of which could be detected. We now know that both the proposed and the observed particles were antineutrinos. In 1962 Leon M. Lederman, Melvin Schwartz and Jack Steinberger showed that more than one type of neutrino exists by first detecting interactions of the muon neutrino, which earned them the 1988 Nobel Prize. When a third type of lepton, the tau, was discovered in 1975 at the Stanford Linear Accelerator, it too was expected to have an associated neutrino. Detection of solar neutrinos, and detection of neutrinos of the SN 1987A supernova in 1987 marked the beginning of neutrino astronomy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

Neutrino astronomy is the science of observing astronomical phenomena by detecting neutrinos, a product of weak thermonuclear reactions going on inside every star. It is still very much in its infancy - the only confirmed extra-terrestrial sources detected so far are the sun and supernova SN1987A. To observe neutrino interactions a large detector mass is required, along with a sensitive amplification system. Given the very weak signal, sources of background noise must be reduced as much as possible. The major sources of detector noise are the showers of elementary particles produced by cosmic rays striking the atmosphere, and particles produced by radioactive decay. To reduce the amount of cosmic rays, the detectors must be shielded by a large shield mass, and so are constructed deep underground, or underwater.
The detector design used generally consists of a large mass of water or ice, surrounded by an array of sensitive light detectors known as photomultiplier tubes. This design takes advantage of the fact that particles produced in the interaction of the incoming neutrino with an atomic nucleus typically travel faster than the speed of light in the detector medium (though of course slower than the speed of light in a vacuum). This generates an "optical shockwave" known as Cherenkov radiation which can be detected by the photomultiplier tubes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_astronomy

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"Hello Neil and Buzz. I'm talking to you by telephone from the Oval Room at the White House. And this certainly has to be the most historic telephone call ever made. I just can't tell you how proud we all are. For every American, this has to be the proudest day of our lives. I am not a crook!"
-President Tricky Dick Nixon, during the illegal Vietnam Wars that genocided over 2-million Asians and genocided over 300,000 US citizens, prior to his resignation to avoid impeachment, trial and conviction for burglery, conspiracy and murders of FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and President John F. Kennedy (pardoned by unelected pedophile pornographer "president" Gerald "Warren Commission Magic Bullet Coup D'Etat" Ford)
www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/apollo11/index.html

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In Apollo videos, note the lack of mandatory 2.5-second time delay for telephone/radio signals (photons/electrons) to travel 500,000 miles at the speed of light from Earth to Moon to Earth...

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Originally posted by AnthonyT:

Piratenews,

What does any of that have to do with your rediculous 'invisible moon' theory?

You know, the theory that visible light is upshifted into an invisible range and hence will not show up on film?

But no, I see you'd rather talk about genocide and Richard Nixon and the supposed sexual orientation of scientists. Cause they're so related.

Oh, and Piratenews, tell me something...

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In Apollo videos, note the lack of mandatory 2.5-second time delay for telephone/radio signals (photons/electrons) to travel 500,000 miles at the speed of light from Earth to Moon to Earth...

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How can you 'witness' a time delay, Or a lack of one, in recorded video footage? I'm interested in the technique you use to become aware of recorded time delay.

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If NASA can't make a TV screen work, how can it land men on The Moon who take perfect photos with ordinary Kodac film?
http://space.about.com/library/video/blvidapollo11_onbclip17.htm
www.archives.gov/exhibits/american_originals/apollo11.html

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Originally posted by rue:
PN

186,000 mi/sec it's not just a good idea, it's the law

I think everyone knows that that speed of light is in a vacuum, and that light's speed can be changed by passing it through different media. And that's how they slowed/ stopped light the way it did - they just had to find the right media.

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This design takes advantage of the fact that particles produced in the interaction of the incoming neutrino with an atomic nucleus typically travel faster than the speed of light in the detector medium (though of course slower than the speed of light in a vacuum).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino_astronomy

The neutrino burst is expected to reach Earth before any electromagnetic waves, including visible light, gamma rays or radio waves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Dude, your lack of brain is showing. And your lack of hearing. And inability to count to the number 2. Let me guess, you flunked out of high school and you flip burgers for crack money?

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Originally posted by yinyang:
::whoosh::

That's the sound of something going over my head.

So, somebody want to explain this real slow, in terms I can understand? Please?

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All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self evident.
Marrying means to halve one's rights and double one's duties,
to grasp blindfold into a sack
hoping to find out an eel out of an assembly of snakes.
—Dr Arthur Schopenhauer PhD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Schopenhauer

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Apparently the point of this thread is that life is more complicated that it at first appears, and science is continually rediscovering itself. I think.

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Originally posted by Khyron:
The point was for us to talk about cool recent scientific advances. It certainly wasn't "Hey PN, have a go."

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Since you're a genius on crack, explain to the peanut gallery how this UFO works, as exhibited by school geeks in science fairs worldwide:



Hint: It has zero moving parts...

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Einstein stole E=MC2 from guys in the 1870s, so the "speed limit of light" thing is 130 years out of date. Same with Einie's "infinite mass at light speed" crap, as anyone knows from standing in sunlight. Loony Einstein is worshipped as a god, yet his equations have never been verified by science.

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Originally posted by sahara:
Lene Hau has already shaken scientists’ beliefs about the nature of
things. Albert Einstein and just about every other physicist insisted
that light travels 186,000 miles a second in free space, and that it
can’t be speeded-up or slowed down. But in 1998, Hau, for the first
time in history, slowed light to 38 miles an hour, about the speed of
rush-hour traffic.

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Originally posted by sahara:
I do not deny that c is a constant.

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Originally posted by BattlestarMinnesotia:
So when I hear such craziness, such a sense of absolute iron clad grasp of the truth in all things scientific, political, social, etc it's just a tip to me that one's belief system is based less on scientific and rational tenets and more on faith and one's one desires and neuroses.

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Originally posted by rue:
On a personal note, get some help. You have an pathetically inflated view of your importance.

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Originally posted by Sabri3l:
Does piratenews ever do anything but spout rhetoric and paranoid theories? I was just wondering if he even really is a fan, or has just found a place to stand on his soapbox, rather than some random street corner.....

Knitter of Cunning Jayne Hats

http://www.myspace.com/gazthegloomy

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